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The Dude abides.
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Cocytus
Posts: 13,171
Adopt-a-Bronco: Gus Frerotte |
Good to see Van Pelt taking it with dignity...
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The Burner Returner
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,161
Adopt-a-Bronco: Quincy Morgan |
If he can continue to learn the playbook, he'll be the #2! I think BVP gets cut and learns to play the guitar and joins some rock band. Also, Parsons gets cut, but I doubt anybody will want him, so he gets resigned to the PS.
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Moderate-erator
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Posts: 6,867
Adopt-a-Bronco: Oleg |
This shouldn't be surprising see how Shanny rushed Griese into the starting role. Luckily Jake is here for at least one more year so Cutler can learn the system and be really comfortable when he takes over.
By the by, how long is Jake's deal structured for? If the Broncs wanted to start Cutty next year would they have to trade him or cut him? |
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Persona Non Grata
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 21,438
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Rock-N-Roll Historian
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: W.NY.B.C.
Posts: 21,300
Adopt-a-Bronco: Floyd Little |
It's really a no win situation for BVP....he's doomed in Denver. Maybe saying all the right things will get him looks elsewhere because...well, his play won't do that for him.
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3,631 - WAKE UP!!!!
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: San Diego
Posts: 4,651
Adopt-a-Bronco: MJK |
I cannot wait until Friday!!!
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R Gang
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Longmont, CO
Posts: 1,151
Adopt-a-Bronco: Keith Bishop |
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Cheeky Bastards
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: The Backside of the Internet
Posts: 29,940
Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris |
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If he has a pro-bowl year and we win the Superbowl, do you really think Shanahan will cut Jake in favor of Cutler? I think not. We will see, but I really doubt that Cutler will start over Jake next year if Jake has as good or better of a year than he did last year. We all agree Jake made great strides in his third year. Even the pundits started begrudgingly to give him some credit. Cutler sounds great, and I think having the luxury of him sitting for TWO full years will benefit the team greater than jumping the gun and throwing him in there after only a year of watching and backing up Jake. I'd prefer a two year learning curve as opposed to only one. Hopefully, Jake has a good enough year for us to get a good look at Cutler the last game or two of the season ![]() Cant help but like the future of the team regardless though. |
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Ring of Famer
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 6,941
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This is the problem with taking a QB when your situation is stable... Sitting on the bench generally does him very little good beyond a few games. Teams are always trying to ease QB's in, and sometimes it does more harm than good. They just end rusty from lack of game experience.
I think next season the Broncos are going to have a relatively tough choice to make. If Cutler is going to be the man, he needs to be the man next year. The Bolts where shoved into this position with Rivers, and they made the hard choice. Broncos may very well be in the same spot. |
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Formerly known as Dipso
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Las Cruces, NM
Posts: 4,723
Adopt-a-Bronco: Paul Smith 70 |
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Ring of Famer
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Earth
Posts: 9,714
Adopt-a-Bronco: Elvis |
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We've got what's looking like a great young foundation for the offense with Walker, Bell, Marshall, Scheffler, Cutler, and the new OL guys. If Culter can get in sync with them early we could be looking at an offense to be reckoned with. Jake was 13-3 last year, and that's a fact, but the offense didn't blow anyone out of the water. If we got behind we were pretty much done for. If Jake wins the SB he'll buy himself another year, and even that's uncertain. Anything less, and it's almost a guarantee that Cutler gets the job. |
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Oh Tyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 4,666
Adopt-a-Bronco: Reggie Rivers |
I think whats going to happen is that Plummer is going to get injured for a few games over the next few years and give Shanny the excuse he needs to play Cutler and keep him there...ala Roethlisberger/Maddox.
OR We win the SB this year and then Plummer gets Dilfered... |
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Ring of Famer
Join Date: Dec 2002
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Ring of Famer
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 16,005
Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ Williams |
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Ring of Famer
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 16,005
Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ Williams |
My guess at the bonus money he's gotten over the years:
'03- $7M signing bonus/6 years= $1.17 hit per year '03, '04, '05, and '06 are gone, so $2.32M remains '05- $2M bonus/5 years= $400k per year '05 and '06 gone, $1.2M remains Approx. $2.7M in restructured base salary/ 5 years= $540k per year $1.62M remains '06- $4M bonus/ 4 years= $1M per year $3M remains A (most likely) bad guess= Jake has about $8.1M in bonuses left to hit the cap. He's probably got some other stuff in there that Williamson or Legwold have never mentioned. He's due $5.3M in base salary next year with prorated hits of about $4.1M or so giving him a cap number $9.4M. So I guess it would be feasible to cut him and save money a little over $1M next year. Cutting him post-June 1 would be $5.3M in savings in '07 and a hit of $4M or so in '08. Jake's contract is like Rod's and Nalen's (before this past off-season) contracts, they've restructured so many times that it's almost impossible to get a good grasp of how much money is still out there that has to eventually hit the cap. Last edited by Hercules Rockefeller; 08-07-2006 at 08:45 PM.. |
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Draft Defense Early&Often
Join Date: Oct 2004
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Jake recieved that $6 million bonus last year and I thought that was the last of the bonus money due him. |
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Ring of Famer
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 16,005
Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ Williams |
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24/7 Broncos
Join Date: Apr 2001
Posts: 49,706
Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning |
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If I'm not mistaken, that bonus money is pro-rated throughout the life of the contract. Though I could be mistaken. The Broncos got VERY creative with Plummer's contract to protect themselves in the event they wanted to dump him... delayed bonuses... delayed delayed bonuses... that sort of thing. I do know this... In 2007, Plummer's contract will be pretty heavy (especially with Cutler on board), and Plummer will likely have to take a cut to remain with the Broncos in an unguranteed capacity. I'll be suprised if Plummer is in Denver next season. |
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Gimmie that rep fool!
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: LA
Posts: 12,253
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Straight Jackin'.
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Seasoned Veteran
Join Date: Aug 2005
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Draft Defense Early&Often
Join Date: Oct 2004
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Well, After Plummer wins the Superbowl MVP this year I would be suprised if Shanny gets rid of him!! |
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