SoCal's Camp report AM 8/2 - Technical Difficulties. - The Orange Mane

Kaylore · 08-02-2006, 10:45 AM

Ok so I had something come up this morning and missed campe. I just got off the phone with SoCal. He was there, but the internet is down at his hotel so I got some basic information from him to fill you guys in while he waits for the internet to get back up. I talked to Mediator this morning but he's pretty busy today and I have no idea when he'll be on here.

Here we go.

Kid A · 08-02-2006, 10:50 AM

Missed camp? That'll be $14,000.

Kaylore · 08-02-2006, 10:50 AM

Apparently the QB's had a bad day today.

BVP: Didn't look any better or worse than usual asside from his pick six he threw to Darrent Williams. I guess Kircus was running an out pattern and Darrent sniffed it out and took it to the house. Socal said he didn't look any better than previous practices which means "average". (Sorry, CSU fans.)

Jay Cutler: He had a bad day. Made some off kilter throws and threw a would-be pick into coverage. SoCal said his overall performance wasn't much better than BVP's.

Jake: Also had trouble on some throws. Generally looked rough around the edges. Had an int but Hamza Abdullah dropped it. *Khan's thoughts* This might have just been a day when our defense did well. Our secondart is looking good.

Ok I guess I'll give the brief stuff he said about the receivers...

Steve Sewell · 08-02-2006, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaylore

Apparently the QB's had a bad day today.

BVP: Didn't look any better or worse than usual asside from his pick six he threw to Darrent Williams. I guess Kircus was running an out pattern and Darrent sniffed it out and took it to the house. Socal said he didn't look any better than previous practices which means "average". (Sorry, CSU fans.)

Jay Cutler: He had a bad day. Made some off kilter throws and threw a would-be pick into coverage. SoCal said his overall performance wasn't much better than BVP's.

Jake: Also had trouble on some throws. Generally looked rough around the edges. Had an int but Hamza Abdullah dropped it. *Khan's thoughts* This might have just been a day when our defense did well. Our secondart is looking good.

Ok I guess I'll give the brief stuff he said about the receivers...

Man, is there an emoticon that is the exact opposite of this:

Kaylore · 08-02-2006, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Missed camp? That'll be $14,000.

What sucks even more is that it was nice and cool today: A great day to attend. Oh well.

David Kircus: Apparently he had another good day and made some nice grabs. Still really competing and puting his nose in the mix

Watts: Watts had a good practice today. No drops to speak of and was getting ipen pretty consistantly.

Marshall: SoCal said "he destroyed" out there. He did have one drop, but otherwise is one of the more consistant targets from all three QB's . *Khan's Thoughts* One thing I haven't mentioned is how easily he releases off the line. It's not that he's just huge (though that really helps) it's that his technique is good. He's probably the hardest guy to jam of the non starters.

Scheffler: He didn't drop any but had trouble sepperating from coverage. Had some good grabs. I should mention that we were the number one team last year defending tight ends so, that is going to help Scheffler but also hurt his production in camp.

He didn't mention much else on the wideouts.

On D-linemen:

Ekuban: He made some nice plays in run support and was good at closing on the ball carrier. Said he played smart.

Meyers: See above.

Kaylore · 08-02-2006, 11:01 AM

Running backs -

Mike Bell: Had some good runs and still is playing like a broncos back. He didn't say much about him.

Tatum Bell: Said he is looking good. He did have a drop, which sucks but for the record his hands are infinitely better than last year.

Dayne: SoCal didn't mention much about this.

Well that's what I got. Consider it an appetizer until the main course gets here (if it ever does.) Just hope that Meds schedule opens up and SoCal's internet gets back online.

Steve Sewell · 08-02-2006, 11:02 AM

Kaylore, can you comment at all about the punters? I read in the DP that Ernster averaged 53 yards per punt yesterday while Knorr averaged 43 yards. I know Steroidbrun will be back after 4 games, but field position was a huge problem with Knorr in 2004. Does Ernster look like the guy to replace Roid while he's out?

Atlas · 08-02-2006, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaylore

Apparently the QB's had a bad day today.

BVP: Didn't look any better or worse than usual asside from his pick six he threw to Darrent Williams. I guess Kircus was running an out pattern and Darrent sniffed it out and took it to the house. Socal said he didn't look any better than previous practices which means "average". (Sorry, CSU fans.)

Jay Cutler: He had a bad day. Made some off kilter throws and threw a would-be pick into coverage. SoCal said his overall performance wasn't much better than BVP's.

Jake: Also had trouble on some throws. Generally looked rough around the edges. Had an int but Hamza Abdullah dropped it. *Khan's thoughts* This might have just been a day when our defense did well. Our secondart is looking good.

Ok I guess I'll give the brief stuff he said about the receivers...

You have this all wrong. The Bronco DBs had a tremendous day forcing the Bronco QBs into mistakes.... Come on man keep it positive!!

Dagmar · 08-02-2006, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaylore

Ok so I had something come up this morning and missed campe. I just got off the phone with SoCal. He was there, but the internet is down at his hotel so I got some basic information from him to fill you guys in while he waits for the internet to get back up. I talked to Mediator this morning but he's pretty busy today and I have no idea when he'll be on here.

Here we go.

Useless. I'm going to footballguys.com...

Kaylore · 08-02-2006, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Sewell

Kaylore, can you comment at all about the punters? I read in the DP that Ernster averaged 53 yards per punt yesterday while Knorr averaged 43 yards. I know Steroidbrun will be back after 4 games, but field position was a huge problem with Knorr in 2004. Does Ernster look like the guy to replace Roid while he's out?

I actually did a couple times so you must have missed it. What you heard is correct. Ernster has been surperior in punting average and in kick offs. Of course he was last year too, so like all these "potential" guys it reamains to be seen what they can do in a game.

Kaylore · 08-02-2006, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagmar

Useless. I'm going to footballguys.com...

Actually their guy on the scene's reports are good. Just don't trust anyone that is claiming to get their reports from a phone that is inventing events like "conditioning" drills.

Hercules Rockefeller · 08-02-2006, 11:08 AM

People forget that Ernster won the kickoff job out of camp last year

*WARHORSE* · 08-02-2006, 11:14 AM

Still appreciate your time in going through the hoops to get us a fix.

Thanks again.

By the way, Im wondering if Mike Bell looks like any kind of a homerun hitter, cause I never saw him break long runs in college. Or does he look more the 'chain mover' role, with the capability to have decent runs, but not really long touchdowns?

Kaylore · 08-02-2006, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by *WARHORSE*

Still appreciate your time in going through the hoops to get us a fix.

Thanks again.

By the way, Im wondering if Mike Bell looks like any kind of a homerun hitter, cause I never saw him break long runs in college. Or does he look more the 'chain mover' role, with the capability to have decent runs, but not really long touchdowns?

He's faster and quicker than Mike Anderson, and he could break it long on occasion. He is more power than speed, but move the chains guys actually make the Broncos offense run better than then ones that run for two yards and break a huge one now and again.

*WARHORSE* · 08-02-2006, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaylore

He's faster and quicker than Mike Anderson, and he could break it long on occasion. He is more power than speed, but move the chains guys actually make the Broncos offense run better than then ones that run for two yards and break a huge one now and again.

Agreed...................unless you get a guy who can do it all.

Im hearing that Tater is looking better each day. Does it really seem like Mike Bell has a shot at the starting position, or do you think its gonna be a backup role?

SoCalBronco · 08-02-2006, 11:26 AM

The NET is finally back online here at the hotel. Its been down since yesterday afternoon when we had a storm, so I couldnt post the PM report yesterday either.

I will have my full report from this morning up in a few minutes.

Kaylore · 08-02-2006, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by *WARHORSE*

Agreed...................unless you get a guy who can do it all.

Im hearing that Tater is looking better each day. Does it really seem like Mike Bell has a shot at the starting position, or do you think its gonna be a backup role?

Well, it's a long shot for him to start, but he has a very good chance to make the team. Wait and see how he does in preseason and that will give you a better idea.

*WARHORSE* · 08-02-2006, 11:31 AM

Great, thanks.

SoCalBronco · 08-02-2006, 11:42 AM

QUARTERBACKS

As I told Khan over the phone, I thought Cutler and Plummer both were quite mediocre today, unlike the last several days. Now they weren't horrible, but not quite up to par. Actually Jake started off ok, they worked the rollouts alot today. He had a nice little flik to Alexander in the flat when he was being pressured. It wasnt even a throw, more like a little flick of the ball right before the defender could tag him. Shortly thereafter he made the mistake of throwing across his body on a rollout and he didnt get set, fortuneatly Marshall made a nice leaping catch past Big Al. He had some miscommunication with the recievers, there were a few times when the recievers cut it short and he threw it deep. He was also inaccurate on slants a few times, throwing them high and behind the reciever and threw a deep ball too far for Walker who had beaten Fox. There was anotehr deep ball where again Jake put too much on it and it was almost picked by Hamza Abdullah. Cutler had a nice throw on a post to Terrell, but was a little low and inaccurate on a seam route to Alexander who still caught it. Jay was also inaccurate on a deep comeback, putting it a little too inside and close to the defender. Cutler also had a ball along the sideline that just went out of bounds. The QBs did do some good things though. He had a nice laser that was right on the money to Clark and Shoate had to interfere to prevent the reception. Plummer also had several nice connections with Marshall. BVP was shaky as usual. He did have some nice throws to Adams in particular. Bradlee was picked off for a PICK SIX by D-Will though who correctly anticipated a route and stepped right into the passing lane at the perfect time.

RUNNING BACKS

This group was solid today. Even Dayne had his moments. Mike Bell continues to show a good combination of power, moves and acceleration once he gets either to the sideline or the hole. Mike Bell's vision continues to be the best of the group and he can cut on a dime. He actually cut back on a toss today, he was outside of the TE and cut all the way back, real quickly, to around the area of the center when he saw that the DT there was pursuing him hard to the corner. Tatum repeatedly beat the defense to the corner and I noticed that he is running with a lower pad level now. He's also finding the creases a little better. There was an inside run where he could have easily bumped into the back of Cooper but he just slithered around and found an opening at the last second. All of the backs fumbled at least once though. I believe Burnsie forced one of them, I didnt see who forced the others. They gave Sapp some carries today but he didnt do anything with them.

SoDak Bronco · 08-02-2006, 11:44 AM

Do you guys project Marshall playing much this season?? Or is this more of a flash in the pan performance... Do you think he can contribute in his first season or will it have to come in the upcoming years??

Haroldthebarrel · 08-02-2006, 11:47 AM

how is cobbs doing in general?
Is he completely out of the picture?

I also wonder how the right guard situation is going. Is Carlisle the clear cut starter, or is he pushed by Kuper or Myers. And is Bibla just camp fodder.

no-pseudo-fan · 08-02-2006, 11:47 AM

just in time for the main course!

Steve Sewell · 08-02-2006, 11:54 AM

It sounds like Mike Bell should have been drafted. Could it be that he was hampered by mass coaching/philosophy changes over his 4 years in AZ that affected his draft status? I think he might have suffered from this quite a bit because his college stats aren't that impressive...

I would have thought that NFL scouts would be wise to the issues they had there as a team and would have identified that he is a pretty talented runningback.

SoCalBronco · 08-02-2006, 11:56 AM

TIGHT ENDS and WIDE RECIEVERS

The undrafted free agent from North Carolina State, Brian Clark continues to do well. He had an excellent practice yesterday afternoon. I stayed for awhile after yesterday and I noticed him there about 20 mins after the field was clear catching balls (as did Adams), and he continued to stay out there when Adams left. He kept doing his thing today. In the early 1 on 1s, he dove on the side line and got a ball past Antwon Rogers. He caught some hitches today. The other memorable big play from Clark was on a deep comeback where he got good seperation from D-Will and hauled it in. Marshall was a beast today. He had three different leaping catches on adjustments to poor balls. He started off slow with a drop on a slant but then went on a tear after that. On that rollout I was talking about earlier in the section on QBs he showed serious hops adjusting to the poor pass and lept to get it over Big Al. Marshall was also used on some reverses today. BVP also threw him a high ball on the sideline and he lept up to get it again. He may be a big guy but he can still jump. He had a similar play against Fox. Finally, he beat Champ on a deep square in route where he went to the post and then at about 15 yards cut inside. He was lauded by the coaches on at least one occasion. Walker also looked good, esp. on deep balls. I wish they were more accurate though. His key play was a deep catch over Fox. Terrell was consistent. I didnt notice Rod much at all in the morning session. Kircus had another good session, especially on the slants. He seems to do very well on slants. I didnt see Watts making mistakes today. In fact he had a nice reception between Lynch and another defender on a ball thrown late. He wasnt thrown a ton of passees though, but that one stands out to me.

Scheffler had trouble today getting seperation from defenders. He did have a nice deep cross reception twice on rollouts, but there were a couple times when he did not position himself correctly and the balls were batted away by the defenders. One deflection was by Fergy and I think another was by a backup LB. I didnt really notice other tight ends out there much, although Leach had one nice reception adjusting to a poorly thrown ball.

Elway 4 Life · 08-02-2006, 11:58 AM

9 days until pre-season. It will surely be the longest 9 days ever.

08-02-2006, 10:45 AM	#1
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,077 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	SoCal's Camp report AM 8/2 - Technical Difficulties. Ok so I had something come up this morning and missed campe. I just got off the phone with SoCal. He was there, but the internet is down at his hotel so I got some basic information from him to fill you guys in while he waits for the internet to get back up. I talked to Mediator this morning but he's pretty busy today and I have no idea when he'll be on here. Here we go.

08-02-2006, 11:26 AM	#16
SoCalBronco Nixonite Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Arcadia, CA Posts: 33,319 Adopt-a-Bronco: D.J. Williams	The NET is finally back online here at the hotel. Its been down since yesterday afternoon when we had a storm, so I couldnt post the PM report yesterday either. I will have my full report from this morning up in a few minutes. __________________ ITS A PLAYOFF HOCKEY NIGHT IN PITTSBURGH!

08-02-2006, 11:42 AM	#19
SoCalBronco Nixonite Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Arcadia, CA Posts: 33,319 Adopt-a-Bronco: D.J. Williams	QUARTERBACKS As I told Khan over the phone, I thought Cutler and Plummer both were quite mediocre today, unlike the last several days. Now they weren't horrible, but not quite up to par. Actually Jake started off ok, they worked the rollouts alot today. He had a nice little flik to Alexander in the flat when he was being pressured. It wasnt even a throw, more like a little flick of the ball right before the defender could tag him. Shortly thereafter he made the mistake of throwing across his body on a rollout and he didnt get set, fortuneatly Marshall made a nice leaping catch past Big Al. He had some miscommunication with the recievers, there were a few times when the recievers cut it short and he threw it deep. He was also inaccurate on slants a few times, throwing them high and behind the reciever and threw a deep ball too far for Walker who had beaten Fox. There was anotehr deep ball where again Jake put too much on it and it was almost picked by Hamza Abdullah. Cutler had a nice throw on a post to Terrell, but was a little low and inaccurate on a seam route to Alexander who still caught it. Jay was also inaccurate on a deep comeback, putting it a little too inside and close to the defender. Cutler also had a ball along the sideline that just went out of bounds. The QBs did do some good things though. He had a nice laser that was right on the money to Clark and Shoate had to interfere to prevent the reception. Plummer also had several nice connections with Marshall. BVP was shaky as usual. He did have some nice throws to Adams in particular. Bradlee was picked off for a PICK SIX by D-Will though who correctly anticipated a route and stepped right into the passing lane at the perfect time. RUNNING BACKS This group was solid today. Even Dayne had his moments. Mike Bell continues to show a good combination of power, moves and acceleration once he gets either to the sideline or the hole. Mike Bell's vision continues to be the best of the group and he can cut on a dime. He actually cut back on a toss today, he was outside of the TE and cut all the way back, real quickly, to around the area of the center when he saw that the DT there was pursuing him hard to the corner. Tatum repeatedly beat the defense to the corner and I noticed that he is running with a lower pad level now. He's also finding the creases a little better. There was an inside run where he could have easily bumped into the back of Cooper but he just slithered around and found an opening at the last second. All of the backs fumbled at least once though. I believe Burnsie forced one of them, I didnt see who forced the others. They gave Sapp some carries today but he didnt do anything with them. __________________ ITS A PLAYOFF HOCKEY NIGHT IN PITTSBURGH!

08-02-2006, 11:56 AM	#24
SoCalBronco Nixonite Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Arcadia, CA Posts: 33,319 Adopt-a-Bronco: D.J. Williams	TIGHT ENDS and WIDE RECIEVERS The undrafted free agent from North Carolina State, Brian Clark continues to do well. He had an excellent practice yesterday afternoon. I stayed for awhile after yesterday and I noticed him there about 20 mins after the field was clear catching balls (as did Adams), and he continued to stay out there when Adams left. He kept doing his thing today. In the early 1 on 1s, he dove on the side line and got a ball past Antwon Rogers. He caught some hitches today. The other memorable big play from Clark was on a deep comeback where he got good seperation from D-Will and hauled it in. Marshall was a beast today. He had three different leaping catches on adjustments to poor balls. He started off slow with a drop on a slant but then went on a tear after that. On that rollout I was talking about earlier in the section on QBs he showed serious hops adjusting to the poor pass and lept to get it over Big Al. Marshall was also used on some reverses today. BVP also threw him a high ball on the sideline and he lept up to get it again. He may be a big guy but he can still jump. He had a similar play against Fox. Finally, he beat Champ on a deep square in route where he went to the post and then at about 15 yards cut inside. He was lauded by the coaches on at least one occasion. Walker also looked good, esp. on deep balls. I wish they were more accurate though. His key play was a deep catch over Fox. Terrell was consistent. I didnt notice Rod much at all in the morning session. Kircus had another good session, especially on the slants. He seems to do very well on slants. I didnt see Watts making mistakes today. In fact he had a nice reception between Lynch and another defender on a ball thrown late. He wasnt thrown a ton of passees though, but that one stands out to me. Scheffler had trouble today getting seperation from defenders. He did have a nice deep cross reception twice on rollouts, but there were a couple times when he did not position himself correctly and the balls were batted away by the defenders. One deflection was by Fergy and I think another was by a backup LB. I didnt really notice other tight ends out there much, although Leach had one nice reception adjusting to a poorly thrown ball. __________________ ITS A PLAYOFF HOCKEY NIGHT IN PITTSBURGH!

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08-02-2006, 10:50 AM	#2
Kid A Ring of Famer I don't need love. I just need wins Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,598	Missed camp? That'll be $14,000.

08-02-2006, 11:01 AM	#6
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,077 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	Running backs - Mike Bell: Had some good runs and still is playing like a broncos back. He didn't say much about him. Tatum Bell: Said he is looking good. He did have a drop, which sucks but for the record his hands are infinitely better than last year. Dayne: SoCal didn't mention much about this. Well that's what I got. Consider it an appetizer until the main course gets here (if it ever does.) Just hope that Meds schedule opens up and SoCal's internet gets back online.

08-02-2006, 11:02 AM	#7
Steve Sewell Oh Tyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!! Patrick and Ty's pimp Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 4,666 Adopt-a-Bronco: Reggie Rivers	Kaylore, can you comment at all about the punters? I read in the DP that Ernster averaged 53 yards per punt yesterday while Knorr averaged 43 yards. I know Steroidbrun will be back after 4 games, but field position was a huge problem with Knorr in 2004. Does Ernster look like the guy to replace Roid while he's out?

08-02-2006, 11:08 AM	#12
Hercules Rockefeller Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 16,005 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ Williams	People forget that Ernster won the kickoff job out of camp last year

08-02-2006, 11:14 AM	#13
WARHORSE GNASHING OF TEETH Let the heads roll......... Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Kailua, Hawaii Posts: 517 Adopt-a-Bronco: Lombardi III	Still appreciate your time in going through the hoops to get us a fix. Thanks again. By the way, Im wondering if Mike Bell looks like any kind of a homerun hitter, cause I never saw him break long runs in college. Or does he look more the 'chain mover' role, with the capability to have decent runs, but not really long touchdowns?

08-02-2006, 11:31 AM	#18
WARHORSE GNASHING OF TEETH Let the heads roll......... Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Kailua, Hawaii Posts: 517 Adopt-a-Bronco: Lombardi III	Great, thanks.

08-02-2006, 11:44 AM	#20
SoDak Bronco Lace em' up and lets go!! Von Miller aka QB Killa Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: South Dakota Posts: 4,133 Adopt-a-Bronco: Robert Ayers	Do you guys project Marshall playing much this season?? Or is this more of a flash in the pan performance... Do you think he can contribute in his first season or will it have to come in the upcoming years??

08-02-2006, 11:47 AM	#21
Haroldthebarrel Seasoned Veteran Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 402	how is cobbs doing in general? Is he completely out of the picture? I also wonder how the right guard situation is going. Is Carlisle the clear cut starter, or is he pushed by Kuper or Myers. And is Bibla just camp fodder.

08-02-2006, 11:47 AM	#22
no-pseudo-fan True Orange & Blue Follow me... Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: EPT Posts: 2,136 Adopt-a-Bronco: Hidalgo	just in time for the main course!

08-02-2006, 11:54 AM	#23
Steve Sewell Oh Tyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!! Patrick and Ty's pimp Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 4,666 Adopt-a-Bronco: Reggie Rivers	It sounds like Mike Bell should have been drafted. Could it be that he was hampered by mass coaching/philosophy changes over his 4 years in AZ that affected his draft status? I think he might have suffered from this quite a bit because his college stats aren't that impressive... I would have thought that NFL scouts would be wise to the issues they had there as a team and would have identified that he is a pretty talented runningback.

08-02-2006, 11:58 AM	#25
Elway 4 Life Pass rushers apply here! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 1,806 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	9 days until pre-season. It will surely be the longest 9 days ever.