Eagles may need Lelie soon

[cutthemdown]

http://www.theredzone.org/news/showa...ArticleID=4122

Browns hammy popped. Who knows how bad but this could make Eagles jump back in for Lelie.

[ward63]

We can only hope!

[watermock]

I had tried to get thru to Eagle HQ for confirmation but the line was busy. Wonder who was tying up the line. I can't believe that Philly wouldn't be interested, even before this injury. An early 3rd would be good enough for me at this point.

Pinky and Bambi...a deadly, physical combination.

[FloridaResident]

that means our trade value for lelie has gone skyrocketed because eagles would be so desperate for a WR

[watermock]

A hammy isn't a panic injury. There will be a couple more that go ACL or something more serious.

[usedupbraids]

westbrook for lelie or lelie and bell for westbrook i dont care just bring him here , maybe the freak

[Broncoman13]

Nobody from the Eagles squad that I really want. I'd like to see about a trade with either the Jags, Niners, or Bears. Only players I'd want... Fred Taylor (Lelie and give up a mid round pick), Barlow (Lelie and receive a late pick), or Thomas Jones (Lelie and Tatum or 2nd or 3rd round pick).

I'm happy with Scheff and Alexander at TE. Nate Jackson is also available. I'm happy with what we have.

[elsid13]

Originally Posted by OSKIE

Nobody from the Eagles squad that I really want. I'd like to see about a trade with either the Jags, Niners, or Bears. Only players I'd want... Fred Taylor (Lelie and give up a mid round pick), Barlow (Lelie and receive a late pick), or Thomas Jones (Lelie and Tatum or 2nd or 3rd round pick).

I'm happy with Scheff and Alexander at TE. Nate Jackson is also available. I'm happy with what we have.

Man, if we get anyone from the Jags it better be Greg Jones. Barlow sole accomplishment in the league is getting his ass kicked by his FB in the locker room.

[Florida_Bronco]

Originally Posted by usedupbraids

westbrook for lelie or lelie and bell for westbrook i dont care just bring him here , maybe the freak

Lelie and Bell for Westbrook would be a raping of Washington Redskins proportions, and we wouldn't come out on the winning end of this one.

Sorry man, but that's just a stupid suggestion.

[Hulamau]

LAndis is totally clean, the guy was very impressive on Larry King yesterday and his doctor was there as well explaining how they have continuallly lowered the allowable ratio of testosterone to epitestostore in recent years ( in the days of East German doping those guys had ratios of 100-1!) from 15-1 then to 10 to 1, then down to 6 to 1 and now lowered late this Spring to a ridiculous 4 to 1, which not only can be in the realm of normal variables in the body, but is too tight a ratio to be reliably replicated in the 25 year old antiquated test they used on Landis's A sample.

Plus both Landis doctor and another top expert doctor on the US anti-doping committee said something is really fishy here, as no one in their right mind would use Testosterone for cycling in any event, as it would more than likely have an adverse effect not a benefit. And certainly NEVER would do it during a race when it would have no effect at all for Pete's sake!

You'd have to take it for at least three weeks straight to have any performace enhancnement at all, and he was tested 8 times in the three weeks leading up to the suspect test after stage 17, and twice afterwards, including after the last time trial and at the end of the Tour, and ALL those came back clean which is TOTALLY nonsensical! Testosterone levels don't leave the body that quickly.

Furthermore, he didnt have elevated serum testoserone it was within high/normal values, but his 'EPI-testoseteone' was unusually low, which threw the ratio off increasing the spread just beyond the newly tightened (and overly so) range of accepted values.

The whole thing is a TOTAL sham! Lance Amstrong came on Larry King saying he is highly suspicious of this same Lab that did the test as it was the same French lab that ****ed up his 1999 test and then accused him of cheating in 1999, only after winning his 7th Tour last year, and in spite of Lance passing over 150 piss tests from 1998 through 2005!

Lance said that lab would not confirm their chain of evidence to anyone after they got their teeth kicked in a couple months ago and had to apologize for the accusation, and were very shady and now they just happen to accuse the OTHER US Tour winner the very next year and no one else in the whole race!!

Give me a break!

Either the B sample clears Landis or the whole thing is tampered with and we should drop a a giant stink bomb on Paris (just kidding :-).

But seriously, this accusation is so far-fetched and fails the crediblity test on so many levels, that if they come up with another shady sample ( as they probably will to try and save face) and wind up stripping this poor kid of his well-earned victory before he undergoes a hip replacement, we should boycott all future Tours de France and ban every French athelete from competing in the US in any sport ... permanently! ( Bye Bye Tony Parker :-)

[Florida_Bronco]

Wrong thread Hulamau

[elsid13]

Originally Posted by Hulamau

LAndis is totally clean, the guy was very impressive on Larry King yesterday and his doctor was there as well explaining how they have continuallly lowered the allowable ratio of testosterone to epitestostore in recent years ( in the days of East German doping those guys had ratios of 100-1!) from 15-1 then to 10 to 1, then down to 6 to 1 and now lowered late this Spring to a ridiculous 4 to 1, which not only can be in the realm of normal variables in the body, but is too tight a ratio to be reliably replicated in the 25 year old antiquated test they used on Landis's A sample.

Plus both Landis doctor and another top expert doctor on the US anti-doping committee said something is really fishy here, as no one in their right mind would use Testosterone for cycling in any event, as it would more than likely have an adverse effect not a benefit. And certainly NEVER would do it during a race when it would have no effect at all for Pete's sake!

You'd have to take it for at least three weeks straight to have any performace enhancnement at all, and he was tested 8 times in the three weeks leading up to the suspect test after stage 17, and twice afterwards, including after the last time trial and at the end of the Tour, and ALL those came back clean which is TOTALLY nonsensical! Testosterone levels don't leave the body that quickly.

Furthermore, he didnt have elevated serum testoserone it was within high/normal values, but his 'EPI-testoseteone' was unusually low, which threw the ratio off increasing the spread just beyond the newly tightened (and overly so) range of accepted values.

The whole thing is a TOTAL sham! Lance Amstrong came on Larry King saying he is highly suspicious of this same Lab that did the test as it was the same French lab that ****ed up his 1999 test and then accused him of cheating in 1999, only after winning his 7th Tour last year, and in spite of Lance passing over 150 piss tests from 1998 through 2005!

Lance said that lab would not confirm their chain of evidence to anyone after they got their teeth kicked in a couple months ago and had to apologize for the accusation, and were very shady and now they just happen to accuse the OTHER US Tour winner the very next year and no one else in the whole race!!

Give me a break!

Either the B sample clears Landis or the whole thing is tampered with and we should drop a a giant stink bomb on Paris (just kidding :-).

But seriously, this accusation is so far-fetched and fails the crediblity test on so many levels, that if they come up with another shady sample ( as they probably will to try and save face) and wind up stripping this poor kid of his well-earned victory before he undergoes a hip replacement, we should boycott all future Tours de France and ban every French athelete from competing in the US in any sport ... permanently! ( Bye Bye Tony Parker :-)

Mock is that you

[usedupbraids]

Originally Posted by Florida_Bronco

Lelie and Bell for Westbrook would be a raping of Washington Redskins proportions, and we wouldn't come out on the winning end of this one.

Sorry man, but that's just a stupid suggestion.

westbrook will fit great in the broncos running game i dont see a better trade than that beside the freak

[Florida_Bronco]

Originally Posted by usedupbraids

westbrook will fit great in the broncos running game i dont see a better trade than that beside the freak

Westbrook has never topped 850 yards rushing in a single season.

Explain to me how trading a 2nd round pick in Tatum ball (who rushed for over 900 yards as a backup) and a 1st round pick at WR (who has led the NFL in YPC for 2 seasons now) for less production is anything short of stupid.

[usedupbraids]

Originally Posted by Florida_Bronco

Westbrook has never topped 850 yards rushing in a single season.

Explain to me how trading a 2nd round pick in Tatum ball (who rushed for over 900 yards as a backup) and a 1st round pick at WR (who has led the NFL in YPC for 2 seasons now) for less production is anything short of stupid.

You in i know mike anderson is not a better RB than westbrook in he rushed 1,000 in the broncos running game just imagine westbrook

[elsid13]

Isn't Westbrook coming off knee surgery?

[Ballhawk]

I can not believe that with a talent at QB like McNabb, that Reid would go into camp with such pitifull depth at WR. Looks like an undrafted FA is now McNabbs goto guy.

[Ballhawk]

Originally Posted by usedupbraids

You in i know mike anderson is not a better RB than westbrook in he rushed 1,000 in the broncos running game just imagine westbrook

If Dom Davis is a poor man's Faulk, then Westbrook is a poor man's Dom Davis. Guy is a great third down back but as a 20 carry guy he is awful.

[Florida_Bronco]

Originally Posted by usedupbraids

You in i know mike anderson is not a better RB than westbrook in he rushed 1,000 in the broncos running game just imagine westbrook

That's arguable at best.

Mike Anderson ran for almost 1500 yards as a rookie and was a consistent producer as a running back both before and after being moved to fullback. Westbrook has not been that productive at all, and we have a player on our roster (Tatum Bell) who had better production as a backup.

Again, trading Lelie and Bell for Westbrook is S-T-U-P-I-D.

[usedupbraids]

Originally Posted by Florida_Bronco

That's arguable at best.

Mike Anderson ran for almost 1500 yards as a rookie and was a consistent producer as a running back both before and after being moved to fullback. Westbrook has not been that productive at all, and we have a player on our roster (Tatum Bell) who had better production as a backup.

Again, trading Lelie and Bell for Westbrook is S-T-U-P-I-D.

ANYONE CAN RUN GREAT IN THE BRONCOS OFFENSE you know that ARE LINE IS GREAT davis and portis are Runningbacks just like westbrook so im just crossing my fingers

[Pat Bowlen]

And that's why middle school football fans don't run any NFL franchises.

[usedupbraids]

Originally Posted by Pat Bowlen

And that's why middle school football fans don't run any NFL franchises.

im sorry if i ran the broncos franchise ill make a risk like that to get us to the Superbowl the Ravens took a risk they made it so did the eagles

[elsid13]

Originally Posted by usedupbraids

im sorry if i ran the broncos franchise ill make a risk like that to get us to the Superbowl the Ravens took a risk they made it so did the eagles

Yeah that Elvis Grbac risk sure paid off for the Ravens.

[ward63]

Didn't westbrook just get a fat contract a year or two ago?

[Hotwheelz]

Originally Posted by usedupbraids

im sorry if i ran the broncos franchise ill make a risk like that to get us to the Superbowl the Ravens took a risk they made it so did the eagles

I'm sorry but, you're an idiot.