AL Qaeda throws their hat in the ring - The Orange Mane

defenseman · 07-27-2006, 07:24 AM

CAIRO, Egypt - Al-Qaida's No. 2 leader issued a worldwide call Thursday for Muslims to rise up in a holy war against Israel and join the fighting in Lebanon and Gaza until Islam reigns from "Spain to Iraq."

In the message broadcast by Al-Jazeera television, Ayman al-Zawahri, second in command to Osama bin Laden, said that al-Qaida now views "all the world as a battlefield open in front of us."

The Egyptian-born physician said that the fighting between Israel and Hezbollah and Palestinian militants would not be ended with "cease-fires or agreements."

"It is a jihad (holy war) for the sake of God and will last until (our) religion prevails ... from Spain to Iraq," al-Zawahri said. "We will attack everywhere." Spain was controlled by Arab Muslims for more than seven centuries until they were driven from power in 1492.

He said Arab regimes were accomplices to Israel. "My fellow Muslims, it is obvious that Arab and Islamic governments are not only impotent but also complicit ... and you are alone on the battlefield. Rely on God and fight your enemies ... make yourselves martyrs."

He also called for the "downtrodden" throughout the world, not just Muslims, to join the battle against "tyrannical Western civilization and its leader, America."

"Stand with Muslims in confronting this unprecedented oppression and tyranny. Stand with us as we stand with you against this injustice that was forbidden by God in his book (the Quran)," al-Zawahri said.

Kamal Habib, a former member of Egypt's Islamic Jihad militant group who was jailed from 1981 to 1991 along with al-Zawahri, said the al-Qaida No. 2's outreach to Shiites and non-Muslims was unprecedented and reflected a major change in tactics.

"This is a transformation in the vision of al-Qaida and its struggle with the United States. It is now trying to unite Sunni Muslims, Shiite Muslims and calling for non-Muslims to join the fight," he said.

Al-Zawahri wore a gray robe and white turban in the video. A picture of the burning World Trade Center was on the wall behind him along with photos of two other militants. One appeared to be a bearded Mohamed Atta, the Egyptian ringleader of the Sept. 11 attacks. The other was Mohammed Atef, also known as Abu Hafs al-Masri, a former top lieutenant of bin Laden who was killed in a U.S. airstrike in Afghanistan in November 2001.

The Arab satellite station did not transmit the entire tape, using instead selected quotes interspersed with commentary from an anchor.

An Al-Jazeera official speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to reporters said the full tape was about eight minutes long. The satellite channel aired only about half the message. It would not say how it received the tape.

"The shells and rockets ripping apart Muslim bodies in Gaza and Lebanon are not only Israeli (weapons), but are supplied by all the countries of the crusader coalition. Therefore, every participant in the crime will pay the price," al-Zawahri said.

"We cannot just watch these shells as they burn our brothers in Gaza and Lebanon and stand by idly, humiliated," he added.

The message was al-Zawahri's 10th this year. Bin Laden has issued five messages in a particularly active year of messages from the top al-Qaida leadership.

Al-Zawahri last appeared in a video posted on an Islamic Web site on the first anniversary of the train bombings in London. In the July 7 tape, he said two of the four suicide bombers in London had spent time in an al-Qaida training camp, preparing themselves for a suicide mission.

The two top al-Qaida leaders also paid tribute in June to the slain leader of their Iraq network, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, in separate recordings. Many of their messages this year have dealt with current events in Afghanistan, Iraq and Somalia.

Another new audio or video message from bin Laden had also expected in the past week on the fighting in Gaza and Lebanon, according to IntelCenter, a U.S.-based independent group that provides counterterrorism information to the U.S. government and media. However, no messages have appeared on Islamic Web sites to announce the release.

Al-Zawahri said Muslims everywhere must rise up to attack "crusaders and Zionists" and support jihad "until American troops are chased from Afghanistan and Iraq, paralyzed and impotent ... having paid the price for aggression against Muslims and support for Israel."

Israel began an offensive on Gaza days after Palestinian militants captured an Israeli soldier on June 25. It opened a second front in Lebanon after Hezbollah guerillas killed eight Israeli soldiers and captured two others on July 12.

By WILLA THAYER, Associated Press Writer

I guess Al Qaeda hasn't had the press they need of late so decided to make a splash. Next on the hit parade, Iran will one up al qaeda in a bid to steal the spot light. However, it's my guess, hezbollah has some diabolicle plans in the near future unfortunately. We'll see how it plays...dman

Bronco9798 · 07-27-2006, 07:27 AM

Is anyone really surprised that Al-Qaeda would sit still. Of course they're going to flap their jaws. Not like this is breaking news. Been waiting for them to yelp all week.

defenseman · 07-27-2006, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bronco9798

Is anyone really surprised that Al-Qaeda would sit still. Of course they're going to flap their jaws. Not like this is breaking news. Been waiting for them to yelp all week.

Sort of, I thought they'd wait till a bit more into the brawl though (more dead hezbollah)...dman

Bronco9798 · 07-27-2006, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by defenseman

Sort of, I thought they'd wait till a bit more into the brawl though (more dead hezbollah)...dman

There's a lot more dead Hezbollah than what is being reported. They don't release their dead numbers.

Bronco_Beerslug · 07-27-2006, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Bronco9798

There's a lot more dead Hezbollah than what is being reported. They don't release their dead numbers.

Do you have the casualty numbers (all sides) from this latest "you kill me, I kill you" ME "skirmish"?

Bronco9798 · 07-27-2006, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

Do you have the casualty numbers (all sides) from this latest "you kill me, I kill you" ME "skirmish"?

Not yet. We'll never know the numbers until the end, just speculation. I'd say Hezbollah has more dead then the Israelis at this point.

Thanks for checking though.

Rohirrim · 07-27-2006, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Bronco9798

Not yet. We'll never know the numbers until the end, just speculation. I'd say Hezbollah has more dead then the Israelis at this point.

Thanks for checking though.

If I remember correctly, the U.S. lost more than 50,000 in Vietnam. The Vietnamese lost more than a million. They won.

Bronco_Beerslug · 07-27-2006, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Bronco9798

Not yet. We'll never know the numbers until the end, just speculation. I'd say Hezbollah has more dead then the Israelis at this point.

Thanks for checking though.

So does that mean the Israelis (will) have won?

Bronco9798 · 07-27-2006, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

So does that mean the Israelis (will) have won?

They might meet their objective which is pushing Hezbollah back and creating a buffer zone. But no, they will never win. It's just a temporary solution. That's about it. There will never be total peace in that part of the country as long as their are terror organizations hanging out on the borders.

defenseman · 07-27-2006, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Bronco9798

They might meet their objective which is pushing Hezbollah back and creating a buffer zone. But no, they will never win. It's just a temporary solution. That's about it. There will never be total peace in that part of the country as long as their are terror organizations hanging out on the borders.

With weapons trained on israel, or suicide bombers exploding themselves. Really sad state of affairs. They want to martyr themselves, I say give them the chance before they resort to more suicide tactics ...dman

Spider · 07-27-2006, 08:26 AM

this is a shocker Al sucka wants to join up ......... instead of asking what countries want to kill us , lets ask for the hands of the friendly countries , much smaller #'s are easier to count ........

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 07-27-2006, 06:01 PM

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this is a shocker Al sucka wants to join up .....

Yeah, my first thought when I read the thread title was "now that's a bombshell."

cbs1177 · 07-27-2006, 06:07 PM

Hezbollah kind of reminds me of Jesse Jackson and his rainbow coliation they are there to spread hate but then when it comes down actually helping those they claim to represent then they are no where to be found. I mean Jesse like Hez. are the first to the scene to claim victimazation about any and everything.

07-27-2006, 07:24 AM	#1
defenseman Ring of Famer 2007 record pred. (7-9) Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 9,232	AL Qaeda throws their hat in the ring CAIRO, Egypt - Al-Qaida's No. 2 leader issued a worldwide call Thursday for Muslims to rise up in a holy war against Israel and join the fighting in Lebanon and Gaza until Islam reigns from "Spain to Iraq." In the message broadcast by Al-Jazeera television, Ayman al-Zawahri, second in command to Osama bin Laden, said that al-Qaida now views "all the world as a battlefield open in front of us." The Egyptian-born physician said that the fighting between Israel and Hezbollah and Palestinian militants would not be ended with "cease-fires or agreements." "It is a jihad (holy war) for the sake of God and will last until (our) religion prevails ... from Spain to Iraq," al-Zawahri said. "We will attack everywhere." Spain was controlled by Arab Muslims for more than seven centuries until they were driven from power in 1492. He said Arab regimes were accomplices to Israel. "My fellow Muslims, it is obvious that Arab and Islamic governments are not only impotent but also complicit ... and you are alone on the battlefield. Rely on God and fight your enemies ... make yourselves martyrs." He also called for the "downtrodden" throughout the world, not just Muslims, to join the battle against "tyrannical Western civilization and its leader, America." "Stand with Muslims in confronting this unprecedented oppression and tyranny. Stand with us as we stand with you against this injustice that was forbidden by God in his book (the Quran)," al-Zawahri said. Kamal Habib, a former member of Egypt's Islamic Jihad militant group who was jailed from 1981 to 1991 along with al-Zawahri, said the al-Qaida No. 2's outreach to Shiites and non-Muslims was unprecedented and reflected a major change in tactics. "This is a transformation in the vision of al-Qaida and its struggle with the United States. It is now trying to unite Sunni Muslims, Shiite Muslims and calling for non-Muslims to join the fight," he said. Al-Zawahri wore a gray robe and white turban in the video. A picture of the burning World Trade Center was on the wall behind him along with photos of two other militants. One appeared to be a bearded Mohamed Atta, the Egyptian ringleader of the Sept. 11 attacks. The other was Mohammed Atef, also known as Abu Hafs al-Masri, a former top lieutenant of bin Laden who was killed in a U.S. airstrike in Afghanistan in November 2001. The Arab satellite station did not transmit the entire tape, using instead selected quotes interspersed with commentary from an anchor. An Al-Jazeera official speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to reporters said the full tape was about eight minutes long. The satellite channel aired only about half the message. It would not say how it received the tape. "The shells and rockets ripping apart Muslim bodies in Gaza and Lebanon are not only Israeli (weapons), but are supplied by all the countries of the crusader coalition. Therefore, every participant in the crime will pay the price," al-Zawahri said. "We cannot just watch these shells as they burn our brothers in Gaza and Lebanon and stand by idly, humiliated," he added. The message was al-Zawahri's 10th this year. Bin Laden has issued five messages in a particularly active year of messages from the top al-Qaida leadership. Al-Zawahri last appeared in a video posted on an Islamic Web site on the first anniversary of the train bombings in London. In the July 7 tape, he said two of the four suicide bombers in London had spent time in an al-Qaida training camp, preparing themselves for a suicide mission. The two top al-Qaida leaders also paid tribute in June to the slain leader of their Iraq network, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, in separate recordings. Many of their messages this year have dealt with current events in Afghanistan, Iraq and Somalia. Another new audio or video message from bin Laden had also expected in the past week on the fighting in Gaza and Lebanon, according to IntelCenter, a U.S.-based independent group that provides counterterrorism information to the U.S. government and media. However, no messages have appeared on Islamic Web sites to announce the release. Al-Zawahri said Muslims everywhere must rise up to attack "crusaders and Zionists" and support jihad "until American troops are chased from Afghanistan and Iraq, paralyzed and impotent ... having paid the price for aggression against Muslims and support for Israel." Israel began an offensive on Gaza days after Palestinian militants captured an Israeli soldier on June 25. It opened a second front in Lebanon after Hezbollah guerillas killed eight Israeli soldiers and captured two others on July 12. By WILLA THAYER, Associated Press Writer I guess Al Qaeda hasn't had the press they need of late so decided to make a splash. Next on the hit parade, Iran will one up al qaeda in a bid to steal the spot light. However, it's my guess, hezbollah has some diabolicle plans in the near future unfortunately. We'll see how it plays...dman

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07-27-2006, 07:27 AM	#2
Bronco9798 Two Time World Champions Boom Goes The Dynamite Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: In a Van Down By the River Posts: 2,353 Adopt-a-Bronco: John Elway	Is anyone really surprised that Al-Qaeda would sit still. Of course they're going to flap their jaws. Not like this is breaking news. Been waiting for them to yelp all week.

07-27-2006, 08:26 AM	#11
Spider Mr Diplomacy I survived Tebow Mania at the Mane Join Date: May 2001 Location: Elway was just an arm =MacGruder Posts: 84,438 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	this is a shocker Al sucka wants to join up ......... instead of asking what countries want to kill us , lets ask for the hands of the friendly countries , much smaller #'s are easier to count ........

07-27-2006, 06:07 PM	#13
cbs1177 Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,209	Hezbollah kind of reminds me of Jesse Jackson and his rainbow coliation they are there to spread hate but then when it comes down actually helping those they claim to represent then they are no where to be found. I mean Jesse like Hez. are the first to the scene to claim victimazation about any and everything.