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Old 08-14-2006, 12:44 AM   #351
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Round 1
1. JCMElway-George Herman "Babe" Ruth, P/OF, Red Sox/Yankees/Braves
2. killericon-Henry "Hank" Aaron, OF Braves/Brewers
3. -Slap--Ted Williams, OF Red Sox
4. BroncoLB52-Willie Mays, OF, Giants/Mets
5. Atwater-Lou Gehrig, 1B Yankees
6. Red Rocket RC-Cy Young, P, Spiders/Perfectos/Americans/Naps
7. Clockwork Orange-Ty Cobb, OF Tigers/Athletics
8. Breck Bronc-Honus Wagner, SS Colonels/Pirates

Round 2
9. Breck Bronc-Mickey Mantle, CF Yankees
10. Clockwork Orange-Walter Johnson, P Senators
11. Red Rocket RC-Pete Alexander, P Phillies/Cubs/Cardinals
12. Atwater-Sandy Koufax, P Dodgers
13. BroncoLB52-Stan Musial, LF/1B Cardinals
14. -Slap--Rogers Hornsby, 2B Cardinals/Giants/Braves/Cubs/Browns
15. killericon-Lefty Grove, P Athletics/Red Sox
16. JCMElway-Joe Dimaggio, CF Yankees

Round 3
17. JCMElway-Roger Clemens, P Red Sox/Blue Jays/Yankees/Astros
18. killericon-Eddie Collins, 2B Athletics/White Sox
19. -Slap--Christy Mathewson, P Giants/Reds
20. BroncoLB52-Frank Robinson, RF Reds/Orioles/Angels
21. Atwater-Earl Weaver, Manager Orioles
22. Red Rocket RC-Warren Spahn, P Braves/Mets/Giants
23. Clockwork Orange-Bob Gibson, P Cardinals
24. Breck Bronc-Tom Seaver, P Mets/Reds/White Sox, Red Sox

Round 4
25. Breck Bronc-Rickey Henderson, LF A's/Yankees/etc.
26. Clockwork Orange-Johnny Bench, C Reds
27. Red Rocket RC-Nolan Ryan P Mets/Angels/Astros/Rangers
28. Atwater-Thurman Munson, C Yankees
29. BroncoLB52-Albert Pujols, 1B Cardinals
30. -Slap--Mike Schmidt, 3B Phillies
31. killericon-Mike Piazza, C Dodgers/Marlins/Mets/Padres
32. JCMElway-Al Kaline, RF Detroit Tigers

Round 5
33. JCMElway-Roberto Clemente, RF Pittsburgh Pirates
34. killericon-Cal Ripken Jr., SS Orioles
35. -Slap--Jimmie Foxx, 1B Athletics/Red Sox/Cubs/Phillies
36. BroncoLB52-"Bullet" Bob Feller, P Indians
37. Atwater-Derek Jeter, SS Yankees
38. Red Rocket RC-Gaylord Perry, P Giants/Indians/Rangers/etc.
39. Clockwork Orange-Alex Rodriguez, SS/3B Mariners/Rangers/Yankees
40. Breck Bronc-Joe Morgan, 2B Reds, Colt .45's/Astros/etc.

Round 6
41. Breck Bronc-Josh Gibson, C Grays/Crawfords
42. Clockwork Orange-Randy Johnson, P Expos/Mariners/Astros/D-Backs/Yankees
43. Red Rocket RC-Roy Campanella, C Dodgers
44. Atwater-B*rry B*nds, LF Pirates/Giants
45. BroncoLB52-Pedro Martinez, P Dodgers/Expos/Red Sox/Mets
46. -Slap--Steve Carlton, P Cardinals/Phillies/Giants/White Sox/etc.
47. killericon-Sammy Sosa, RF White Sox/Cubs/Orioles
48. JCMElway-Ernie Banks, SS Cubs

Round 7
49. JCMElway-Jackie Robinson, 2B Dodgers
50. killericon-Ken Griffey Jr., CF Mariners/Reds
51. -Slap--Ozzie Smith, SS Padres/Cardinals
52. BroncoLB52-George Brett, 3B Royals
53. Atwater-Eric Gagne, P Dodgers
54. Red Rocket RC-Tony Gwynn, OF Padres
55. Clockwork Orange-Mariano Rivera, P Yankees
56. Breck Bronc-Reggie Jackson, OF A's/Yankees/Orioles/Angels

Round 8
57. Breck Bronc-Hank Greenberg, 1B Tigers/Pirates
58. Clockwork Orange-Brooks Robinson, 3B Orioles
59. Red Rocket RC-David Ortiz, DH Twins/Red Sox
60. Atwater-Wade Boggs, 3B Red Sox/Yankees, Devil Rays
61. BroncoLB52-Yogi Berra, C Yankees
62. -Slap--Greg Maddux, P Cubs/Braves/Dodgers
63. killericon-Roy Halladay, P Blue Jays
64. JCMElway-Jim Palmer, P Orioles

Round 9
65. JCMElway-Pete Rose, 2B/OF/3B/1B Reds/Phillies/Expos
66. killericon-Kid Nichols, P Beaneaters/Cardinals/Phillies
67. -Slap--Ichiro Suzuki, RF Mariners
68. BroncoLB52-Satchel Paige, P Indians/Browns/Royals
69. Atwater-Kirby Puckett, CF Twins
70. Red Rocket RC-Ron Santo, 3B Cubs/White Sox
71. Clockwork Orange-"Shoeless" Joe Jackson, LF Athletics/Naps/White Sox-
72. Breck Bronc-Carl Hubbell, P Giants

Round 10
73. Breck Bronc-Mordecai "Three Finger" Brown, P Cardinals/Cubs/Reds
74. Clockwork Orange-Ryne Sandberg, 2B Phillies/Cubs
75. Red Rocket RC-Andruw Jones, CF Braves
76. Atwater-Nellie Fox, 2B A's, White Sox, Colt .45's
77. BroncoLB52-Whitey Ford, P Yankees
78. -Slap--Andre Dawson, OF Expos/Cubs/Red Sox/Marlins
79. killericon-Phil Niekro, P Braves/Yankees/Indians/Blue Jays
80. JCMElway-George Sisler, 1B Browns/Braves

Round 11
81. JCMElway-Hal Newhouser, P Tigers/Indians
82. killericon-Trevor Hoffman, P Marlins/Padres
83. -Slap--Ivan Rodriguez, C Rangers/Marlins/Tigers
84. BroncoLB52-Juan Marichal, P Giants/Red Sox/Dodgers
85. Atwater-Chuck Klein, RF Phillies/Cubs/Pirates
86. Red Rocket RC-Jeff Bagwell, 1B Astros
87. Clockwork Orange-Vladimir Guerrero, RF Expos/Angels
88. Breck Bronc-Miguel Cabrera, 3B Marlins

Round 12
89. Breck Bronc-Robin Roberts, P Phillies/Orioles
90. Clockwork Orange-Tom Glavine, P Braves/Mets
91. Red Rocket RC-Nap Lajoie, 2B Phillies/A's/Indians
92. Atwater-Paul Molitor, DH Brewers/Blue Jays/Twins
93. BroncoLB52-Mel Ott, RF/3B Giants
94. -Slap--Don Drysdale, P Dodgers
95. killericon-Mark Grace, 1B Cubs/D-Backs
96. JCMElway-Dizzy Dean, P Cardinals/Cubs/Browns

Round 13
97. JCMElway-Rod Carew, 2B Twins/Angels
98. killericon-Hoyt Wilhelm, P Giants/Orioles/White Sox/etc.
99. -Slap--Goose Gossage, P White Sox/Pirates/Yankees/etc.
100. BroncoLB52-Eddie Matthews, 3B Braves/Astros/Tigers
101. Atwater-Early Wynn, P Senators/Indians/White Sox
102. Red Rocket RC-Carl Yastrzemski, LF Red Sox
103. Clockwork Orange-Harmon Killebrew, 1B Senators/Twins/Royals
104. Breck Bronc-Fergie Jenkins, P Cubs/Rangers/Red Sox/Phillies

Round 14
105. Breck Bronc-Don Mattingly, 1B Yankees
106. Clockwork Orange-John Smoltz, P Braves
107. Red Rocket RC-Pee Wee Reese, SS Dodgers
108. Atwater-Catfish Hunter, P A's/Yankees
109. BroncoLB52-Dennis Eckersley, P Indians/Red Sox/Cubs/etc.
110. -Slap--Willie Stargell, LF Pirates
111. killericon-David Wells, P Blue Jays/Tigers/Reds/Yankees/etc.
112. JCMElway-Rollie Fingers, P A's/Padres/Brewers

Round 15
113. JCMElway-Mickey Cochrane, C A's/Tigers
114. killericon-Kenny Rogers, P Rangers/Yankees/A's/etc.
115. -Slap--Ted Simmons, C Cardinals/Brewers/Braves
116. BroncoLB52-Miguel Tejada, SS A's/Orioles
117. Atwater-Lefty Gomez, P Yankees/Senators
118. Red Rocket RC-John Franco, P Reds/Mets/Astros
119. Clockwork Orange-Manny Ramirez, LF Indians/Red Sox
120. Breck Bronc-Duke Snider, CF Dodgers/Mets/Giants

121. Breck Bronc-Dave Winfield, RF Padres/Yankees/Angels/etc.
122. Clockwork Orange-Lou Brock, OF Cubs/Cardinals
123. Red Rocket RC-Robb Nen, P Rangers/Marlins/Giants
124. Atwater-Billy Williams, LF Cubs/A's
125. BroncoLB52-Charlie Gehringer, 2B Tigers
126. -Slap--Frankie Frisch, 2B/3B/SS Giants/Cardinals
127. killericon
128. JCMElway


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Old 08-14-2006, 12:46 AM   #352
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Updated alphabetical list.

Hank Aaron
Pete Alexander
Jeff Bagwell
Ernie Banks
Johnny Bench
Yogi Berra
Wade Boggs
B*rry B*nds
George Brett
Lou Brock
Mordecai Brown
Jim Bunning
Miguel Cabrera
Roy Campanella
Rod Carew
Steve Carlton
Roger Clemens
Roberto Clemente
Ty Cobb
Mickey Cochrane
Eddie Collins
Andre Dawson
Dizzy Dean
Carlos Delgado
Joe Dimaggio
Don Drysdale
Dennis Eckersley
Bob Feller
Rollie Fingers
Whitey Ford
Nellie Fox
Jimmie Foxx
John Franco
Frankie Frisch
Eric Gagne
Lou Gehrig
Charlie Gehringer
Bob Gibson
Josh Gibson
Tom Glavine
Lefty Gomez
Goose Gossage
Mark Grace
Hank Greenberg
Ken Griffey Jr.
Lefty Grove
Vladimir Guerrero
Tony Gwynn
Roy Halladay
Ricky Henderson
Trevor Hoffman
Rogers Hornsby
Carl Hubbell
Catfish Hunter
Joe Jackson
Reggie Jackson
Fergie Jenkins
Derek Jeter
Randy Johnson
Walter Johnson
Andruw Jones
Al Kaline
Harmon Killebrew
Chuck Klein
Sandy Koufax
Nap Lajoie
Greg Maddux
Mickey Mantle
Juan Marichal
Pedro Martinez
Christy Mathewson
Eddie Matthews
Don Mattingly
Willie Mays
Paul Molitor
Joe Morgan
Thurman Munson
Stan Musial
Robb Nen
Hal Newhouser
Kid Nichols
Phil Niekro
David Ortiz
Mel Ott
Satchel Paige
Jim Palmer
Gaylord Perry
Mike Piazza
Kirby Puckett
Albert Pujols
Manny Ramirez
Pee Wee Reese
Cal Ripken Jr.
Mariano Rivera
Robin Roberts
Brooks Robinson
Frank Robinson
Jackie Robinson
Alex Rodriguez
Ivan Rodriguez
Kenny Rogers
Pete Rose
Babe Ruth
Nolan Ryan
Ryne Sandberg
Johan Santana
Ron Santo
Curt Schilling
Mike Schmidt
Tom Seaver
Ted Simmons
George Sisler
Ozzie Smith
John Smoltz
Duke Snider
Sammy Sosa
Warren Spahn
Tris Speaker
Willie Stargell
Bruce Sutter
Ichiro Suzuki
Miguel Tejada
Pie Traynor
Dazzy Vance
Billy Wagner
Honus Wagner
Larry Walker
Earl Weaver
David Wells
Hoyt Wilhelm
Billy Williams
Ted Williams
Dave Winfield
Early Wynn
Carl Yastrzemski
Cy Young

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Old 08-14-2006, 02:14 AM   #353
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Killericon selects the late Harold "Pie" Traynor.



Harold Joseph "Pie" Traynor (November 11, 1899 - March 16, 1972) was a Major League Baseball third baseman who played his entire career with the Pittsburgh Pirates (1920-37).

Traynor was born in Framingham, Massachusetts. He received his nickame for a fondness for eating pie. He is generally considered to have been the greatest National League third baseman before the 1950s. Although he played in the era before the Gold Glove award was created, he was regarded by most baseball observers as the best-fielding third baseman ever until Brooks Robinson came along. He had a lifetime batting average of .320, and was struck out only 278 times in 7,559 career at bats. Playing his home games at Pittsburgh's spacious Forbes Field kept his home run total low, reaching a high of 12 in 1923. However, those long distances also aided him in hitting doubles and triples, and he had over 100 runs batted in (RBI) in a season seven times. He also managed the Pirates from 1934 to 1939.

In 1948, Traynor was selected to the Baseball Hall of Fame, being the initial third baseman to be chosen by the BBWAA. He died at age 72 in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, not long after the Pirates moved into Three Rivers Stadium and retired his uniform number 20. In 1999, he ranked Number 70 on The Sporting News' list of the 100 Greatest Baseball Players, and was nominated as a finalist for the Major League Baseball All-Century Team.

Traynor is also the only Major League Baseball player ever to steal home plate in an All-Star Game.

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Round 1
1. JCMElway-George Herman "Babe" Ruth, P/OF, Red Sox/Yankees/Braves
2. killericon-Henry "Hank" Aaron, OF Braves/Brewers
3. -Slap--Ted Williams, OF Red Sox
4. BroncoLB52-Willie Mays, OF, Giants/Mets
5. Atwater-Lou Gehrig, 1B Yankees
6. Red Rocket RC-Cy Young, P, Spiders/Perfectos/Americans/Naps
7. Clockwork Orange-Ty Cobb, OF Tigers/Athletics
8. Breck Bronc-Honus Wagner, SS Colonels/Pirates

Round 2
9. Breck Bronc-Mickey Mantle, CF Yankees
10. Clockwork Orange-Walter Johnson, P Senators
11. Red Rocket RC-Pete Alexander, P Phillies/Cubs/Cardinals
12. Atwater-Sandy Koufax, P Dodgers
13. BroncoLB52-Stan Musial, LF/1B Cardinals
14. -Slap--Rogers Hornsby, 2B Cardinals/Giants/Braves/Cubs/Browns
15. killericon-Lefty Grove, P Athletics/Red Sox
16. JCMElway-Joe Dimaggio, CF Yankees

Round 3
17. JCMElway-Roger Clemens, P Red Sox/Blue Jays/Yankees/Astros
18. killericon-Eddie Collins, 2B Athletics/White Sox
19. -Slap--Christy Mathewson, P Giants/Reds
20. BroncoLB52-Frank Robinson, RF Reds/Orioles/Angels
21. Atwater-Earl Weaver, Manager Orioles
22. Red Rocket RC-Warren Spahn, P Braves/Mets/Giants
23. Clockwork Orange-Bob Gibson, P Cardinals
24. Breck Bronc-Tom Seaver, P Mets/Reds/White Sox, Red Sox

Round 4
25. Breck Bronc-Rickey Henderson, LF A's/Yankees/etc.
26. Clockwork Orange-Johnny Bench, C Reds
27. Red Rocket RC-Nolan Ryan P Mets/Angels/Astros/Rangers
28. Atwater-Thurman Munson, C Yankees
29. BroncoLB52-Albert Pujols, 1B Cardinals
30. -Slap--Mike Schmidt, 3B Phillies
31. killericon-Mike Piazza, C Dodgers/Marlins/Mets/Padres
32. JCMElway-Al Kaline, RF Detroit Tigers

Round 5
33. JCMElway-Roberto Clemente, RF Pittsburgh Pirates
34. killericon-Cal Ripken Jr., SS Orioles
35. -Slap--Jimmie Foxx, 1B Athletics/Red Sox/Cubs/Phillies
36. BroncoLB52-"Bullet" Bob Feller, P Indians
37. Atwater-Derek Jeter, SS Yankees
38. Red Rocket RC-Gaylord Perry, P Giants/Indians/Rangers/etc.
39. Clockwork Orange-Alex Rodriguez, SS/3B Mariners/Rangers/Yankees
40. Breck Bronc-Joe Morgan, 2B Reds, Colt .45's/Astros/etc.

Round 6
41. Breck Bronc-Josh Gibson, C Grays/Crawfords
42. Clockwork Orange-Randy Johnson, P Expos/Mariners/Astros/D-Backs/Yankees
43. Red Rocket RC-Roy Campanella, C Dodgers
44. Atwater-B*rry B*nds, LF Pirates/Giants
45. BroncoLB52-Pedro Martinez, P Dodgers/Expos/Red Sox/Mets
46. -Slap--Steve Carlton, P Cardinals/Phillies/Giants/White Sox/etc.
47. killericon-Sammy Sosa, RF White Sox/Cubs/Orioles
48. JCMElway-Ernie Banks, SS Cubs

Round 7
49. JCMElway-Jackie Robinson, 2B Dodgers
50. killericon-Ken Griffey Jr., CF Mariners/Reds
51. -Slap--Ozzie Smith, SS Padres/Cardinals
52. BroncoLB52-George Brett, 3B Royals
53. Atwater-Eric Gagne, P Dodgers
54. Red Rocket RC-Tony Gwynn, OF Padres
55. Clockwork Orange-Mariano Rivera, P Yankees
56. Breck Bronc-Reggie Jackson, OF A's/Yankees/Orioles/Angels

Round 8
57. Breck Bronc-Hank Greenberg, 1B Tigers/Pirates
58. Clockwork Orange-Brooks Robinson, 3B Orioles
59. Red Rocket RC-David Ortiz, DH Twins/Red Sox
60. Atwater-Wade Boggs, 3B Red Sox/Yankees, Devil Rays
61. BroncoLB52-Yogi Berra, C Yankees
62. -Slap--Greg Maddux, P Cubs/Braves/Dodgers
63. killericon-Roy Halladay, P Blue Jays
64. JCMElway-Jim Palmer, P Orioles

Round 9
65. JCMElway-Pete Rose, 2B/OF/3B/1B Reds/Phillies/Expos
66. killericon-Kid Nichols, P Beaneaters/Cardinals/Phillies
67. -Slap--Ichiro Suzuki, RF Mariners
68. BroncoLB52-Satchel Paige, P Indians/Browns/Royals
69. Atwater-Kirby Puckett, CF Twins
70. Red Rocket RC-Ron Santo, 3B Cubs/White Sox
71. Clockwork Orange-"Shoeless" Joe Jackson, LF Athletics/Naps/White Sox-
72. Breck Bronc-Carl Hubbell, P Giants

Round 10
73. Breck Bronc-Mordecai "Three Finger" Brown, P Cardinals/Cubs/Reds
74. Clockwork Orange-Ryne Sandberg, 2B Phillies/Cubs
75. Red Rocket RC-Andruw Jones, CF Braves
76. Atwater-Nellie Fox, 2B A's, White Sox, Colt .45's
77. BroncoLB52-Whitey Ford, P Yankees
78. -Slap--Andre Dawson, OF Expos/Cubs/Red Sox/Marlins
79. killericon-Phil Niekro, P Braves/Yankees/Indians/Blue Jays
80. JCMElway-George Sisler, 1B Browns/Braves

Round 11
81. JCMElway-Hal Newhouser, P Tigers/Indians
82. killericon-Trevor Hoffman, P Marlins/Padres
83. -Slap--Ivan Rodriguez, C Rangers/Marlins/Tigers
84. BroncoLB52-Juan Marichal, P Giants/Red Sox/Dodgers
85. Atwater-Chuck Klein, RF Phillies/Cubs/Pirates
86. Red Rocket RC-Jeff Bagwell, 1B Astros
87. Clockwork Orange-Vladimir Guerrero, RF Expos/Angels
88. Breck Bronc-Miguel Cabrera, 3B Marlins

Round 12
89. Breck Bronc-Robin Roberts, P Phillies/Orioles
90. Clockwork Orange-Tom Glavine, P Braves/Mets
91. Red Rocket RC-Nap Lajoie, 2B Phillies/A's/Indians
92. Atwater-Paul Molitor, DH Brewers/Blue Jays/Twins
93. BroncoLB52-Mel Ott, RF/3B Giants
94. -Slap--Don Drysdale, P Dodgers
95. killericon-Mark Grace, 1B Cubs/D-Backs
96. JCMElway-Dizzy Dean, P Cardinals/Cubs/Browns

Round 13
97. JCMElway-Rod Carew, 2B Twins/Angels
98. killericon-Hoyt Wilhelm, P Giants/Orioles/White Sox/etc.
99. -Slap--Goose Gossage, P White Sox/Pirates/Yankees/etc.
100. BroncoLB52-Eddie Matthews, 3B Braves/Astros/Tigers
101. Atwater-Early Wynn, P Senators/Indians/White Sox
102. Red Rocket RC-Carl Yastrzemski, LF Red Sox
103. Clockwork Orange-Harmon Killebrew, 1B Senators/Twins/Royals
104. Breck Bronc-Fergie Jenkins, P Cubs/Rangers/Red Sox/Phillies

Round 14
105. Breck Bronc-Don Mattingly, 1B Yankees
106. Clockwork Orange-John Smoltz, P Braves
107. Red Rocket RC-Pee Wee Reese, SS Dodgers
108. Atwater-Catfish Hunter, P A's/Yankees
109. BroncoLB52-Dennis Eckersley, P Indians/Red Sox/Cubs/etc.
110. -Slap--Willie Stargell, LF Pirates
111. killericon-David Wells, P Blue Jays/Tigers/Reds/Yankees/etc.
112. JCMElway-Rollie Fingers, P A's/Padres/Brewers

Round 15
113. JCMElway-Mickey Cochrane, C A's/Tigers
114. killericon-Kenny Rogers, P Rangers/Yankees/A's/etc.
115. -Slap--Ted Simmons, C Cardinals/Brewers/Braves
116. BroncoLB52-Miguel Tejada, SS A's/Orioles
117. Atwater-Lefty Gomez, P Yankees/Senators
118. Red Rocket RC-John Franco, P Reds/Mets/Astros
119. Clockwork Orange-Manny Ramirez, LF Indians/Red Sox
120. Breck Bronc-Duke Snider, CF Dodgers/Mets/Giants

121. Breck Bronc-Dave Winfield, RF Padres/Yankees/Angels/etc.
122. Clockwork Orange-Lou Brock, OF Cubs/Cardinals
123. Red Rocket RC-Robb Nen, P Rangers/Marlins/Giants
124. Atwater-Billy Williams, LF Cubs/A's
125. BroncoLB52-Charlie Gehringer, 2B Tigers
126. -Slap--Frankie Frisch, 2B/3B/SS Giants/Cardinals
127. killericon-Harold "Pie" Traynor, 3B Pirates
128. JCMElway


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Old 08-14-2006, 10:26 AM   #355
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Those Cheap Bastards bolster the pitching staff with:

Jim Bunning, P, Tigers/Phillies/Pirates

Awards: All-Star (8): 1957, 1959, 1961-1964, 1966

Bunning showed a remarkable consistency during his 17-year career. He became the first pitcher to record 100 wins and 1,000 strikeouts in both the American and National leagues. He also threw no-hitters in both leagues, including a perfect game on Father’s Day 1964. Accumulated 224 career wins as a seven-time All-Star selection. Bunning was also a leading figure in the founding of the player’s union and would later serve the state of Kentucky as a United States Senator.

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Bruce Sutter, RP, Cubs, Cardinals, Braves

Post-Season: 1982 NLCS, 1982 World Series
Awards: All-Star (6): 1977-1981, 1984

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Bruce Sutter was on the fringes of professional baseball, a struggling minor league pitcher with an injured arm, until he received a gift that changed his life forever. A new pitch, a split-fingered fastball, was taught to him by a wise, old man of the game, and in a matter of years, Sutter took this new weapon and blazed a trail as one of the game's top relief pitchers. A six-time All-Star, Sutter was the 1979 National League Cy Young Award winner and he was on the mound for the last six outs of the Cardinals' 1982 World Series championship. He saved at least 20 games in nine consecutive seasons, and set an NL mark with 45 saves in 1984. The right-hander retired following an arm injury, with 300 saves and a 2.84 ERA to his credit.

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Did You Know... that Bruce Sutter is the first pitcher elected to the Hall of Fame who never started at least one game in the major leagues?
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Sutter is going to be the perfect setup guy for Fingers. For most of his career Sutter would pitch the 8th AND ninth innings, if not the 7th as well.

Sutter in the 7th and 8th, Fingers in the 9th. I like it!
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Hey Killer and LB52, great picks. Gehringer was so consistent, Traynor will be a great pinch hitter when you need a single.

Good job guys.
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Round 1
1. JCMElway-George Herman "Babe" Ruth, P/OF, Red Sox/Yankees/Braves
2. killericon-Henry "Hank" Aaron, OF Braves/Brewers
3. -Slap--Ted Williams, OF Red Sox
4. BroncoLB52-Willie Mays, OF, Giants/Mets
5. Atwater-Lou Gehrig, 1B Yankees
6. Red Rocket RC-Cy Young, P, Spiders/Perfectos/Americans/Naps
7. Clockwork Orange-Ty Cobb, OF Tigers/Athletics
8. Breck Bronc-Honus Wagner, SS Colonels/Pirates

Round 2
9. Breck Bronc-Mickey Mantle, CF Yankees
10. Clockwork Orange-Walter Johnson, P Senators
11. Red Rocket RC-Pete Alexander, P Phillies/Cubs/Cardinals
12. Atwater-Sandy Koufax, P Dodgers
13. BroncoLB52-Stan Musial, LF/1B Cardinals
14. -Slap--Rogers Hornsby, 2B Cardinals/Giants/Braves/Cubs/Browns
15. killericon-Lefty Grove, P Athletics/Red Sox
16. JCMElway-Joe Dimaggio, CF Yankees

Round 3
17. JCMElway-Roger Clemens, P Red Sox/Blue Jays/Yankees/Astros
18. killericon-Eddie Collins, 2B Athletics/White Sox
19. -Slap--Christy Mathewson, P Giants/Reds
20. BroncoLB52-Frank Robinson, RF Reds/Orioles/Angels
21. Atwater-Earl Weaver, Manager Orioles
22. Red Rocket RC-Warren Spahn, P Braves/Mets/Giants
23. Clockwork Orange-Bob Gibson, P Cardinals
24. Breck Bronc-Tom Seaver, P Mets/Reds/White Sox, Red Sox

Round 4
25. Breck Bronc-Rickey Henderson, LF A's/Yankees/etc.
26. Clockwork Orange-Johnny Bench, C Reds
27. Red Rocket RC-Nolan Ryan P Mets/Angels/Astros/Rangers
28. Atwater-Thurman Munson, C Yankees
29. BroncoLB52-Albert Pujols, 1B Cardinals
30. -Slap--Mike Schmidt, 3B Phillies
31. killericon-Mike Piazza, C Dodgers/Marlins/Mets/Padres
32. JCMElway-Al Kaline, RF Detroit Tigers

Round 5
33. JCMElway-Roberto Clemente, RF Pittsburgh Pirates
34. killericon-Cal Ripken Jr., SS Orioles
35. -Slap--Jimmie Foxx, 1B Athletics/Red Sox/Cubs/Phillies
36. BroncoLB52-"Bullet" Bob Feller, P Indians
37. Atwater-Derek Jeter, SS Yankees
38. Red Rocket RC-Gaylord Perry, P Giants/Indians/Rangers/etc.
39. Clockwork Orange-Alex Rodriguez, SS/3B Mariners/Rangers/Yankees
40. Breck Bronc-Joe Morgan, 2B Reds, Colt .45's/Astros/etc.

Round 6
41. Breck Bronc-Josh Gibson, C Grays/Crawfords
42. Clockwork Orange-Randy Johnson, P Expos/Mariners/Astros/D-Backs/Yankees
43. Red Rocket RC-Roy Campanella, C Dodgers
44. Atwater-B*rry B*nds, LF Pirates/Giants
45. BroncoLB52-Pedro Martinez, P Dodgers/Expos/Red Sox/Mets
46. -Slap--Steve Carlton, P Cardinals/Phillies/Giants/White Sox/etc.
47. killericon-Sammy Sosa, RF White Sox/Cubs/Orioles
48. JCMElway-Ernie Banks, SS Cubs

Round 7
49. JCMElway-Jackie Robinson, 2B Dodgers
50. killericon-Ken Griffey Jr., CF Mariners/Reds
51. -Slap--Ozzie Smith, SS Padres/Cardinals
52. BroncoLB52-George Brett, 3B Royals
53. Atwater-Eric Gagne, P Dodgers
54. Red Rocket RC-Tony Gwynn, OF Padres
55. Clockwork Orange-Mariano Rivera, P Yankees
56. Breck Bronc-Reggie Jackson, OF A's/Yankees/Orioles/Angels

Round 8
57. Breck Bronc-Hank Greenberg, 1B Tigers/Pirates
58. Clockwork Orange-Brooks Robinson, 3B Orioles
59. Red Rocket RC-David Ortiz, DH Twins/Red Sox
60. Atwater-Wade Boggs, 3B Red Sox/Yankees, Devil Rays
61. BroncoLB52-Yogi Berra, C Yankees
62. -Slap--Greg Maddux, P Cubs/Braves/Dodgers
63. killericon-Roy Halladay, P Blue Jays
64. JCMElway-Jim Palmer, P Orioles

Round 9
65. JCMElway-Pete Rose, 2B/OF/3B/1B Reds/Phillies/Expos
66. killericon-Kid Nichols, P Beaneaters/Cardinals/Phillies
67. -Slap--Ichiro Suzuki, RF Mariners
68. BroncoLB52-Satchel Paige, P Indians/Browns/Royals
69. Atwater-Kirby Puckett, CF Twins
70. Red Rocket RC-Ron Santo, 3B Cubs/White Sox
71. Clockwork Orange-"Shoeless" Joe Jackson, LF Athletics/Naps/White Sox-
72. Breck Bronc-Carl Hubbell, P Giants

Round 10
73. Breck Bronc-Mordecai "Three Finger" Brown, P Cardinals/Cubs/Reds
74. Clockwork Orange-Ryne Sandberg, 2B Phillies/Cubs
75. Red Rocket RC-Andruw Jones, CF Braves
76. Atwater-Nellie Fox, 2B A's, White Sox, Colt .45's
77. BroncoLB52-Whitey Ford, P Yankees
78. -Slap--Andre Dawson, OF Expos/Cubs/Red Sox/Marlins
79. killericon-Phil Niekro, P Braves/Yankees/Indians/Blue Jays
80. JCMElway-George Sisler, 1B Browns/Braves

Round 11
81. JCMElway-Hal Newhouser, P Tigers/Indians
82. killericon-Trevor Hoffman, P Marlins/Padres
83. -Slap--Ivan Rodriguez, C Rangers/Marlins/Tigers
84. BroncoLB52-Juan Marichal, P Giants/Red Sox/Dodgers
85. Atwater-Chuck Klein, RF Phillies/Cubs/Pirates
86. Red Rocket RC-Jeff Bagwell, 1B Astros
87. Clockwork Orange-Vladimir Guerrero, RF Expos/Angels
88. Breck Bronc-Miguel Cabrera, 3B Marlins

Round 12
89. Breck Bronc-Robin Roberts, P Phillies/Orioles
90. Clockwork Orange-Tom Glavine, P Braves/Mets
91. Red Rocket RC-Nap Lajoie, 2B Phillies/A's/Indians
92. Atwater-Paul Molitor, DH Brewers/Blue Jays/Twins
93. BroncoLB52-Mel Ott, RF/3B Giants
94. -Slap--Don Drysdale, P Dodgers
95. killericon-Mark Grace, 1B Cubs/D-Backs
96. JCMElway-Dizzy Dean, P Cardinals/Cubs/Browns

Round 13
97. JCMElway-Rod Carew, 2B Twins/Angels
98. killericon-Hoyt Wilhelm, P Giants/Orioles/White Sox/etc.
99. -Slap--Goose Gossage, P White Sox/Pirates/Yankees/etc.
100. BroncoLB52-Eddie Matthews, 3B Braves/Astros/Tigers
101. Atwater-Early Wynn, P Senators/Indians/White Sox
102. Red Rocket RC-Carl Yastrzemski, LF Red Sox
103. Clockwork Orange-Harmon Killebrew, 1B Senators/Twins/Royals
104. Breck Bronc-Fergie Jenkins, P Cubs/Rangers/Red Sox/Phillies

Round 14
105. Breck Bronc-Don Mattingly, 1B Yankees
106. Clockwork Orange-John Smoltz, P Braves
107. Red Rocket RC-Pee Wee Reese, SS Dodgers
108. Atwater-Catfish Hunter, P A's/Yankees
109. BroncoLB52-Dennis Eckersley, P Indians/Red Sox/Cubs/etc.
110. -Slap--Willie Stargell, LF Pirates
111. killericon-David Wells, P Blue Jays/Tigers/Reds/Yankees/etc.
112. JCMElway-Rollie Fingers, P A's/Padres/Brewers

Round 15
113. JCMElway-Mickey Cochrane, C A's/Tigers
114. killericon-Kenny Rogers, P Rangers/Yankees/A's/etc.
115. -Slap--Ted Simmons, C Cardinals/Brewers/Braves
116. BroncoLB52-Miguel Tejada, SS A's/Orioles
117. Atwater-Lefty Gomez, P Yankees/Senators
118. Red Rocket RC-John Franco, P Reds/Mets/Astros
119. Clockwork Orange-Manny Ramirez, LF Indians/Red Sox
120. Breck Bronc-Duke Snider, CF Dodgers/Mets/Giants

Round 16
121. Breck Bronc-Dave Winfield, RF Padres/Yankees/Angels/etc.
122. Clockwork Orange-Lou Brock, OF Cubs/Cardinals
123. Red Rocket RC-Robb Nen, P Rangers/Marlins/Giants
124. Atwater-Billy Williams, LF Cubs/A's
125. BroncoLB52-Charlie Gehringer, 2B Tigers
126. -Slap--Frankie Frisch, 2B/3B/SS Giants/Cardinals
127. killericon-Harold "Pie" Traynor, 3B Pirates
128. JCMElway-Jim Bunning, P Tigers/Phillies/Pirates

Round 17
129. JCMElway-Bruce Sutter, P Cubs/Cardinals/Braves
130. killericon
131. -Slap-
132. BroncoLB52
133. Atwater
134. Red Rocket RC
135. Clockwork Orange
136. Breck Bronc


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Delgado was born in Aguadilla, Puerto Rico. He debuted with the Toronto Blue Jays in the 1993 season. Originally a catcher, he switched to first baseman and rapidly became one of the most dangerous sluggers in the major leagues. A two-time All Star, in 2000 and 2003, Delgado holds a wide variety of Blue Jays single season and career records. He also won the Hank Aaron and TSN Player of the Year awards in 2000, and the Silver Slugger Award in 1999, 2000 and 2003. Delgado has hit at least 30 home runs in nine consecutive seasons, and amassed at least 100 RBI in seven of his ten full seasons.

On September 25, 2003, in a game against the Tampa Bay Devil Rays, Delgado became only the fifth American League player and 15th major leaguer to hit four home runs in one game. He hit a grand slam in the first inning, then led off the fourth, sixth and eighth innings with solo shots. On Septembe 30, 2003 he won AL player of the week for the week.
On September 7,2004 Delgado was named Al player of the week. Delgado became a free agent following the 2004 season and was pursued by the Baltimore Orioles, Florida Marlins, New York Mets, Seattle Mariners and Texas Rangers. On January 25, 2005, he finally chose the Marlins, signing a four-year contract worth a reported $52 million. His transition to the National League was very successful, hitting for a .301 batting average, .399 on base percentage, with 33 home runs and 115 RBI in 2005.

On November 23, 2005, the Mets, one of the teams which had pursued Delgado the previous off-season, struck a trade with Florida to send Mike Jacobs and two minor leaguers to the Marlins for Delgado and $7 million. The deal was part of the Marlin's "market correction."

Through the 2005 season, in 13 years of major league service, Delgado had a career .284 batting average, and a .393 on-base percentage with 369 home runs and 1,173 RBI in 1,567 games.

Carlos Delgado was one of the first Puerto Rican players to agree to play for Puerto Rico in the MLB World Baseball Classic, representing the island. In addition to Delgado, the team featured fellow Puerto Ricans Ivan Rodriguez, Sandy Alomar, Jr. as catchers; Carlos Beltran, Bernie Williams, Jose Cruz, Jr. and Luis Matos as outfielders; Mike Lowell, Josť Vidro, Felipe Lopez, Alex Cintron and Carlos Baerga as infielders; and pitchers Javier Vazquez, Joel Pineiro, J.C. Romero and Kiko Calero amongst others, in a team managed by St. Louis Cardinals third base coach Jose Oquendo.

Despite playing only two games (one as a catcher and one as a DH) and having one at-bat with the Blue Jays in 1993, Delgado was awarded a World Series championship ring after the team won the World Series.

Through 2006, Delgado is the all-time leader for interleague play RBI with 131, and second all-time in home runs with 43.

Like his hero, Roberto Clemente, Delgado is a well known humanitarian and peace activist and has been open about his political beliefs. As part of the Navy-Vieques protests, Delgado was actively opposed to the use of the island of Vieques, Puerto Rico as a bombing target practice facility of the military of the United States, until bombing was halted in 2003. He is also against the occupation of Iraq. In the 2004 season, Delgado protested the war by silently staying in the dugout during the playing of God Bless America. Delgado does not make a public show of his beliefs and even his teammates were not aware of his views until a story was published in July 2004 in the Toronto Star. Delgado was quoted as saying "It’s a very terrible thing that happened on September 11. It's (also) a terrible thing that happened in Afghanistan and Iraq,". "I just feel so sad for the families that lost relatives and loved ones in the war. But I think it's the stupidest war ever." The story was the subject of a media frenzy, mostly in New York, where on July 21, 2004, as was anticipated, Delgado was booed for his passive protest during a game at Yankee Stadium [3]. Angry New York fans booed him and, when Delgado lined out in the 7th inning, fans chanted "USA, USA" even though Delgado, like all Puerto Ricans, is an American citizen. Delgado had explained that the playing of God Bless America had come to be equated with a war in which he didn't believe. In a New York Times interview, Delgado said this is what he believed in, and "It takes a man to stand up for what he believes."

After being traded to the Mets, Delgado underscored his "team-first" mentality including his decision to now stand for the playing of God Bless America. "Everybody stands and I will be there," he explained.

Among other charity work, Delgado is well known for his generous visits to hospitals in his hometown where, on Three Kings Day, he brings toys to hospitalized children. In 2006, he joined Puerto Rico's Senate President in co-sponsoring a massive Three Kings gift-giving effort in the town of Loiza. Delgado started his own non-profit organization, "Extra Bases" to assist island youth.



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2B - Eddie Collins
SS - Cal Ripken Jr.
3B - Harold "Pie" Traynor
LF - Sammy Sosa
CF - Ken Griffey Jr.
RF - Henry "Hank" Aaron
DH - Carlos Delgado

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SP - Roy Halladay
SP - Phil Niekro
SP - David Wells
SP - Kenny Rogers

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Round 1
1. JCMElway-George Herman "Babe" Ruth, P/OF, Red Sox/Yankees/Braves
2. killericon-Henry "Hank" Aaron, OF Braves/Brewers
3. -Slap--Ted Williams, OF Red Sox
4. BroncoLB52-Willie Mays, OF, Giants/Mets
5. Atwater-Lou Gehrig, 1B Yankees
6. Red Rocket RC-Cy Young, P, Spiders/Perfectos/Americans/Naps
7. Clockwork Orange-Ty Cobb, OF Tigers/Athletics
8. Breck Bronc-Honus Wagner, SS Colonels/Pirates

Round 2
9. Breck Bronc-Mickey Mantle, CF Yankees
10. Clockwork Orange-Walter Johnson, P Senators
11. Red Rocket RC-Pete Alexander, P Phillies/Cubs/Cardinals
12. Atwater-Sandy Koufax, P Dodgers
13. BroncoLB52-Stan Musial, LF/1B Cardinals
14. -Slap--Rogers Hornsby, 2B Cardinals/Giants/Braves/Cubs/Browns
15. killericon-Lefty Grove, P Athletics/Red Sox
16. JCMElway-Joe Dimaggio, CF Yankees

Round 3
17. JCMElway-Roger Clemens, P Red Sox/Blue Jays/Yankees/Astros
18. killericon-Eddie Collins, 2B Athletics/White Sox
19. -Slap--Christy Mathewson, P Giants/Reds
20. BroncoLB52-Frank Robinson, RF Reds/Orioles/Angels
21. Atwater-Earl Weaver, Manager Orioles
22. Red Rocket RC-Warren Spahn, P Braves/Mets/Giants
23. Clockwork Orange-Bob Gibson, P Cardinals
24. Breck Bronc-Tom Seaver, P Mets/Reds/White Sox, Red Sox

Round 4
25. Breck Bronc-Rickey Henderson, LF A's/Yankees/etc.
26. Clockwork Orange-Johnny Bench, C Reds
27. Red Rocket RC-Nolan Ryan P Mets/Angels/Astros/Rangers
28. Atwater-Thurman Munson, C Yankees
29. BroncoLB52-Albert Pujols, 1B Cardinals
30. -Slap--Mike Schmidt, 3B Phillies
31. killericon-Mike Piazza, C Dodgers/Marlins/Mets/Padres
32. JCMElway-Al Kaline, RF Detroit Tigers

Round 5
33. JCMElway-Roberto Clemente, RF Pittsburgh Pirates
34. killericon-Cal Ripken Jr., SS Orioles
35. -Slap--Jimmie Foxx, 1B Athletics/Red Sox/Cubs/Phillies
36. BroncoLB52-"Bullet" Bob Feller, P Indians
37. Atwater-Derek Jeter, SS Yankees
38. Red Rocket RC-Gaylord Perry, P Giants/Indians/Rangers/etc.
39. Clockwork Orange-Alex Rodriguez, SS/3B Mariners/Rangers/Yankees
40. Breck Bronc-Joe Morgan, 2B Reds, Colt .45's/Astros/etc.

Round 6
41. Breck Bronc-Josh Gibson, C Grays/Crawfords
42. Clockwork Orange-Randy Johnson, P Expos/Mariners/Astros/D-Backs/Yankees
43. Red Rocket RC-Roy Campanella, C Dodgers
44. Atwater-B*rry B*nds, LF Pirates/Giants
45. BroncoLB52-Pedro Martinez, P Dodgers/Expos/Red Sox/Mets
46. -Slap--Steve Carlton, P Cardinals/Phillies/Giants/White Sox/etc.
47. killericon-Sammy Sosa, RF White Sox/Cubs/Orioles
48. JCMElway-Ernie Banks, SS Cubs

Round 7
49. JCMElway-Jackie Robinson, 2B Dodgers
50. killericon-Ken Griffey Jr., CF Mariners/Reds
51. -Slap--Ozzie Smith, SS Padres/Cardinals
52. BroncoLB52-George Brett, 3B Royals
53. Atwater-Eric Gagne, P Dodgers
54. Red Rocket RC-Tony Gwynn, OF Padres
55. Clockwork Orange-Mariano Rivera, P Yankees
56. Breck Bronc-Reggie Jackson, OF A's/Yankees/Orioles/Angels

Round 8
57. Breck Bronc-Hank Greenberg, 1B Tigers/Pirates
58. Clockwork Orange-Brooks Robinson, 3B Orioles
59. Red Rocket RC-David Ortiz, DH Twins/Red Sox
60. Atwater-Wade Boggs, 3B Red Sox/Yankees, Devil Rays
61. BroncoLB52-Yogi Berra, C Yankees
62. -Slap--Greg Maddux, P Cubs/Braves/Dodgers
63. killericon-Roy Halladay, P Blue Jays
64. JCMElway-Jim Palmer, P Orioles

Round 9
65. JCMElway-Pete Rose, 2B/OF/3B/1B Reds/Phillies/Expos
66. killericon-Kid Nichols, P Beaneaters/Cardinals/Phillies
67. -Slap--Ichiro Suzuki, RF Mariners
68. BroncoLB52-Satchel Paige, P Indians/Browns/Royals
69. Atwater-Kirby Puckett, CF Twins
70. Red Rocket RC-Ron Santo, 3B Cubs/White Sox
71. Clockwork Orange-"Shoeless" Joe Jackson, LF Athletics/Naps/White Sox-
72. Breck Bronc-Carl Hubbell, P Giants

Round 10
73. Breck Bronc-Mordecai "Three Finger" Brown, P Cardinals/Cubs/Reds
74. Clockwork Orange-Ryne Sandberg, 2B Phillies/Cubs
75. Red Rocket RC-Andruw Jones, CF Braves
76. Atwater-Nellie Fox, 2B A's, White Sox, Colt .45's
77. BroncoLB52-Whitey Ford, P Yankees
78. -Slap--Andre Dawson, OF Expos/Cubs/Red Sox/Marlins
79. killericon-Phil Niekro, P Braves/Yankees/Indians/Blue Jays
80. JCMElway-George Sisler, 1B Browns/Braves

Round 11
81. JCMElway-Hal Newhouser, P Tigers/Indians
82. killericon-Trevor Hoffman, P Marlins/Padres
83. -Slap--Ivan Rodriguez, C Rangers/Marlins/Tigers
84. BroncoLB52-Juan Marichal, P Giants/Red Sox/Dodgers
85. Atwater-Chuck Klein, RF Phillies/Cubs/Pirates
86. Red Rocket RC-Jeff Bagwell, 1B Astros
87. Clockwork Orange-Vladimir Guerrero, RF Expos/Angels
88. Breck Bronc-Miguel Cabrera, 3B Marlins

Round 12
89. Breck Bronc-Robin Roberts, P Phillies/Orioles
90. Clockwork Orange-Tom Glavine, P Braves/Mets
91. Red Rocket RC-Nap Lajoie, 2B Phillies/A's/Indians
92. Atwater-Paul Molitor, DH Brewers/Blue Jays/Twins
93. BroncoLB52-Mel Ott, RF/3B Giants
94. -Slap--Don Drysdale, P Dodgers
95. killericon-Mark Grace, 1B Cubs/D-Backs
96. JCMElway-Dizzy Dean, P Cardinals/Cubs/Browns

Round 13
97. JCMElway-Rod Carew, 2B Twins/Angels
98. killericon-Hoyt Wilhelm, P Giants/Orioles/White Sox/etc.
99. -Slap--Goose Gossage, P White Sox/Pirates/Yankees/etc.
100. BroncoLB52-Eddie Matthews, 3B Braves/Astros/Tigers
101. Atwater-Early Wynn, P Senators/Indians/White Sox
102. Red Rocket RC-Carl Yastrzemski, LF Red Sox
103. Clockwork Orange-Harmon Killebrew, 1B Senators/Twins/Royals
104. Breck Bronc-Fergie Jenkins, P Cubs/Rangers/Red Sox/Phillies

Round 14
105. Breck Bronc-Don Mattingly, 1B Yankees
106. Clockwork Orange-John Smoltz, P Braves
107. Red Rocket RC-Pee Wee Reese, SS Dodgers
108. Atwater-Catfish Hunter, P A's/Yankees
109. BroncoLB52-Dennis Eckersley, P Indians/Red Sox/Cubs/etc.
110. -Slap--Willie Stargell, LF Pirates
111. killericon-David Wells, P Blue Jays/Tigers/Reds/Yankees/etc.
112. JCMElway-Rollie Fingers, P A's/Padres/Brewers

Round 15
113. JCMElway-Mickey Cochrane, C A's/Tigers
114. killericon-Kenny Rogers, P Rangers/Yankees/A's/etc.
115. -Slap--Ted Simmons, C Cardinals/Brewers/Braves
116. BroncoLB52-Miguel Tejada, SS A's/Orioles
117. Atwater-Lefty Gomez, P Yankees/Senators
118. Red Rocket RC-John Franco, P Reds/Mets/Astros
119. Clockwork Orange-Manny Ramirez, LF Indians/Red Sox
120. Breck Bronc-Duke Snider, CF Dodgers/Mets/Giants

Round 16
121. Breck Bronc-Dave Winfield, RF Padres/Yankees/Angels/etc.
122. Clockwork Orange-Lou Brock, OF Cubs/Cardinals
123. Red Rocket RC-Robb Nen, P Rangers/Marlins/Giants
124. Atwater-Billy Williams, LF Cubs/A's
125. BroncoLB52-Charlie Gehringer, 2B Tigers
126. -Slap--Frankie Frisch, 2B/3B/SS Giants/Cardinals
127. killericon-Harold "Pie" Traynor, 3B Pirates
128. JCMElway-Jim Bunning, P Tigers/Phillies/Pirates

Round 17
129. JCMElway-Bruce Sutter, P Cubs/Cardinals/Braves
130. killericon-Carlos Delgado, 1B Blue Jays/Marlins/Mets
131. -Slap-
132. BroncoLB52
133. Atwater
134. Red Rocket RC
135. Clockwork Orange
136. Breck Bronc


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Bats Left, Throws Left
Weight 193 lb.

Debut September 14, 1907
Final Game August 30, 1928

Born April 4, 1888 in Hubbard, TX
Died December 8, 1958 in Lake Whitney, TX

Inducted into the Hall of Fame in 1937.

Hard to believe Speaker slipped this far. He would have been a solid pick about a dozen rounds ago. He was overshadowed by Ty Cobb during his playing days and he remains one of the most underrated superstars in baseball history.
  • First all time with 792 doubles. He led the league in doubles a record eight times.

  • Fifth all time with 3514 hits. He led the league in hits twice and had more than 200 hits four times.

  • Sixth all time with 222 triples. 13 seasons with more than 10 triples.

  • Sixth all time with a lifetime .345 batting average.

  • Batted over .300 18 times and over .380 five times.

  • Won the AL batting title in 1916 with an average of .386 and finished second or third in batting nine times.

  • 11th all time with 1882 runs scored.

  • Lifetime one base percentage of .428 is 12th all time.

  • One of the best defensive centerfielders in history, he played extremely shallow to rob basehits. Speaker is the all time ML leader in outfield assists (448) and double plays (139), as well as the AL leader in outfield putouts (6,706).

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Code:
Year Ag Tm  Lg  G   AB    R    H   2B 3B  HR  RBI  SB CS  BB  SO   BA   OBP   SLG   TB   SH  SF IBB HBP GDP 
+--------------+---+----+----+----+---+--+---+----+---+--+---+---+-----+-----+-----+----+---+---+---+---+---+
 1907 19 BOS AL   7   19    0    3   0  0   0    1   0      1      .158  .200  .158    3   0           0    
 1908 20 BOS AL  31  116   12   26   2  2   0    9   3      4      .224  .262  .276   32   3           2    
 1909 21 BOS AL 143  544   73  168  26 13   7   77  35     38      .309  .362  .443  241  17           7    
 1910 22 BOS AL 141  538   92  183  20 14   7   65  35     52      .340  .404  .468  252  12           6    
 1911 23 BOS AL 141  500   88  167  34 13   8   70  25     59      .334  .418  .502  251  17          13    
 1912 24 BOS AL 153  580  136  222  53 12  10   90  52     82      .383  .464  .567  329   7           6    
 1913 25 BOS AL 141  520   94  189  35 22   3   71  46     65  22  .363  .441  .533  277  16           7    
 1914 26 BOS AL 158  571  101  193  46 18   4   90  42 29  77  25  .338  .423  .503  287  13           7    
 1915 27 BOS AL 150  547  108  176  25 12   0   69  29 25  81  14  .322  .416  .411  225  17           7    
 1916 28 CLE AL 151  546  102  211  41  8   2   79  35 27  82  20  .386  .470  .502  274  15           4    
 1917 29 CLE AL 142  523   90  184  42 11   2   60  30     67  14  .352  .432  .486  254  15           7    
 1918 30 CLE AL 127  471   73  150  33 11   0   61  27     64   9  .318  .403  .435  205  11           3    
 1919 31 CLE AL 134  494   83  146  38 12   2   63  15     73  12  .296  .395  .433  214  20           8    
 1920 32 CLE AL 150  552  137  214  50 11   8  107  10 13  97  13  .388  .483  .562  310  20           5    
 1921 33 CLE AL 132  506  107  183  52 14   3   75   2  4  68  12  .362  .439  .538  272  12           2    
 1922 34 CLE AL 131  426   85  161  48  8  11   71   8  3  77  11  .378  .474  .606  258  12           1    
 1923 35 CLE AL 150  574  133  218  59 11  17  130   8  9  93  15  .380  .469  .610  350  22           4    
 1924 36 CLE AL 135  486   94  167  36  9   9   65   5  7  72  13  .344  .432  .510  248  13           4    
 1925 37 CLE AL 117  429   79  167  35  5  12   87   5  2  70  12  .389  .479  .578  248  15           4    
 1926 38 CLE AL 150  539   96  164  52  8   7   86   6  1  94  15  .304  .408  .469  253  28           0    
 1927 39 WSH AL 141  523   71  171  43  6   2   73   9  8  55   8  .327  .395  .444  232  15           4    
 1928 40 PHA AL  64  191   28   51  22  2   3   30   5  1  10   5  .267  .310  .450   86   9           2    
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Round 1
1. JCMElway-George Herman "Babe" Ruth, P/OF, Red Sox/Yankees/Braves
2. killericon-Henry "Hank" Aaron, OF Braves/Brewers
3. -Slap--Ted Williams, OF Red Sox
4. BroncoLB52-Willie Mays, OF, Giants/Mets
5. Atwater-Lou Gehrig, 1B Yankees
6. Red Rocket RC-Cy Young, P, Spiders/Perfectos/Americans/Naps
7. Clockwork Orange-Ty Cobb, OF Tigers/Athletics
8. Breck Bronc-Honus Wagner, SS Colonels/Pirates

Round 2
9. Breck Bronc-Mickey Mantle, CF Yankees
10. Clockwork Orange-Walter Johnson, P Senators
11. Red Rocket RC-Pete Alexander, P Phillies/Cubs/Cardinals
12. Atwater-Sandy Koufax, P Dodgers
13. BroncoLB52-Stan Musial, LF/1B Cardinals
14. -Slap--Rogers Hornsby, 2B Cardinals/Giants/Braves/Cubs/Browns
15. killericon-Lefty Grove, P Athletics/Red Sox
16. JCMElway-Joe Dimaggio, CF Yankees

Round 3
17. JCMElway-Roger Clemens, P Red Sox/Blue Jays/Yankees/Astros
18. killericon-Eddie Collins, 2B Athletics/White Sox
19. -Slap--Christy Mathewson, P Giants/Reds
20. BroncoLB52-Frank Robinson, RF Reds/Orioles/Angels
21. Atwater-Earl Weaver, Manager Orioles
22. Red Rocket RC-Warren Spahn, P Braves/Mets/Giants
23. Clockwork Orange-Bob Gibson, P Cardinals
24. Breck Bronc-Tom Seaver, P Mets/Reds/White Sox, Red Sox

Round 4
25. Breck Bronc-Rickey Henderson, LF A's/Yankees/etc.
26. Clockwork Orange-Johnny Bench, C Reds
27. Red Rocket RC-Nolan Ryan P Mets/Angels/Astros/Rangers
28. Atwater-Thurman Munson, C Yankees
29. BroncoLB52-Albert Pujols, 1B Cardinals
30. -Slap--Mike Schmidt, 3B Phillies
31. killericon-Mike Piazza, C Dodgers/Marlins/Mets/Padres
32. JCMElway-Al Kaline, RF Detroit Tigers

Round 5
33. JCMElway-Roberto Clemente, RF Pittsburgh Pirates
34. killericon-Cal Ripken Jr., SS Orioles
35. -Slap--Jimmie Foxx, 1B Athletics/Red Sox/Cubs/Phillies
36. BroncoLB52-"Bullet" Bob Feller, P Indians
37. Atwater-Derek Jeter, SS Yankees
38. Red Rocket RC-Gaylord Perry, P Giants/Indians/Rangers/etc.
39. Clockwork Orange-Alex Rodriguez, SS/3B Mariners/Rangers/Yankees
40. Breck Bronc-Joe Morgan, 2B Reds, Colt .45's/Astros/etc.

Round 6
41. Breck Bronc-Josh Gibson, C Grays/Crawfords
42. Clockwork Orange-Randy Johnson, P Expos/Mariners/Astros/D-Backs/Yankees
43. Red Rocket RC-Roy Campanella, C Dodgers
44. Atwater-B*rry B*nds, LF Pirates/Giants
45. BroncoLB52-Pedro Martinez, P Dodgers/Expos/Red Sox/Mets
46. -Slap--Steve Carlton, P Cardinals/Phillies/Giants/White Sox/etc.
47. killericon-Sammy Sosa, RF White Sox/Cubs/Orioles
48. JCMElway-Ernie Banks, SS Cubs

Round 7
49. JCMElway-Jackie Robinson, 2B Dodgers
50. killericon-Ken Griffey Jr., CF Mariners/Reds
51. -Slap--Ozzie Smith, SS Padres/Cardinals
52. BroncoLB52-George Brett, 3B Royals
53. Atwater-Eric Gagne, P Dodgers
54. Red Rocket RC-Tony Gwynn, OF Padres
55. Clockwork Orange-Mariano Rivera, P Yankees
56. Breck Bronc-Reggie Jackson, OF A's/Yankees/Orioles/Angels

Round 8
57. Breck Bronc-Hank Greenberg, 1B Tigers/Pirates
58. Clockwork Orange-Brooks Robinson, 3B Orioles
59. Red Rocket RC-David Ortiz, DH Twins/Red Sox
60. Atwater-Wade Boggs, 3B Red Sox/Yankees, Devil Rays
61. BroncoLB52-Yogi Berra, C Yankees
62. -Slap--Greg Maddux, P Cubs/Braves/Dodgers
63. killericon-Roy Halladay, P Blue Jays
64. JCMElway-Jim Palmer, P Orioles

Round 9
65. JCMElway-Pete Rose, 2B/OF/3B/1B Reds/Phillies/Expos
66. killericon-Kid Nichols, P Beaneaters/Cardinals/Phillies
67. -Slap--Ichiro Suzuki, RF Mariners
68. BroncoLB52-Satchel Paige, P Indians/Browns/Royals
69. Atwater-Kirby Puckett, CF Twins
70. Red Rocket RC-Ron Santo, 3B Cubs/White Sox
71. Clockwork Orange-"Shoeless" Joe Jackson, LF Athletics/Naps/White Sox-
72. Breck Bronc-Carl Hubbell, P Giants

Round 10
73. Breck Bronc-Mordecai "Three Finger" Brown, P Cardinals/Cubs/Reds
74. Clockwork Orange-Ryne Sandberg, 2B Phillies/Cubs
75. Red Rocket RC-Andruw Jones, CF Braves
76. Atwater-Nellie Fox, 2B A's, White Sox, Colt .45's
77. BroncoLB52-Whitey Ford, P Yankees
78. -Slap--Andre Dawson, OF Expos/Cubs/Red Sox/Marlins
79. killericon-Phil Niekro, P Braves/Yankees/Indians/Blue Jays
80. JCMElway-George Sisler, 1B Browns/Braves

Round 11
81. JCMElway-Hal Newhouser, P Tigers/Indians
82. killericon-Trevor Hoffman, P Marlins/Padres
83. -Slap--Ivan Rodriguez, C Rangers/Marlins/Tigers
84. BroncoLB52-Juan Marichal, P Giants/Red Sox/Dodgers
85. Atwater-Chuck Klein, RF Phillies/Cubs/Pirates
86. Red Rocket RC-Jeff Bagwell, 1B Astros
87. Clockwork Orange-Vladimir Guerrero, RF Expos/Angels
88. Breck Bronc-Miguel Cabrera, 3B Marlins

Round 12
89. Breck Bronc-Robin Roberts, P Phillies/Orioles
90. Clockwork Orange-Tom Glavine, P Braves/Mets
91. Red Rocket RC-Nap Lajoie, 2B Phillies/A's/Indians
92. Atwater-Paul Molitor, DH Brewers/Blue Jays/Twins
93. BroncoLB52-Mel Ott, RF/3B Giants
94. -Slap--Don Drysdale, P Dodgers
95. killericon-Mark Grace, 1B Cubs/D-Backs
96. JCMElway-Dizzy Dean, P Cardinals/Cubs/Browns

Round 13
97. JCMElway-Rod Carew, 2B Twins/Angels
98. killericon-Hoyt Wilhelm, P Giants/Orioles/White Sox/etc.
99. -Slap--Goose Gossage, P White Sox/Pirates/Yankees/etc.
100. BroncoLB52-Eddie Matthews, 3B Braves/Astros/Tigers
101. Atwater-Early Wynn, P Senators/Indians/White Sox
102. Red Rocket RC-Carl Yastrzemski, LF Red Sox
103. Clockwork Orange-Harmon Killebrew, 1B Senators/Twins/Royals
104. Breck Bronc-Fergie Jenkins, P Cubs/Rangers/Red Sox/Phillies

Round 14
105. Breck Bronc-Don Mattingly, 1B Yankees
106. Clockwork Orange-John Smoltz, P Braves
107. Red Rocket RC-Pee Wee Reese, SS Dodgers
108. Atwater-Catfish Hunter, P A's/Yankees
109. BroncoLB52-Dennis Eckersley, P Indians/Red Sox/Cubs/etc.
110. -Slap--Willie Stargell, LF Pirates
111. killericon-David Wells, P Blue Jays/Tigers/Reds/Yankees/etc.
112. JCMElway-Rollie Fingers, P A's/Padres/Brewers

Round 15
113. JCMElway-Mickey Cochrane, C A's/Tigers
114. killericon-Kenny Rogers, P Rangers/Yankees/A's/etc.
115. -Slap--Ted Simmons, C Cardinals/Brewers/Braves
116. BroncoLB52-Miguel Tejada, SS A's/Orioles
117. Atwater-Lefty Gomez, P Yankees/Senators
118. Red Rocket RC-John Franco, P Reds/Mets/Astros
119. Clockwork Orange-Manny Ramirez, LF Indians/Red Sox
120. Breck Bronc-Duke Snider, CF Dodgers/Mets/Giants

Round 16
121. Breck Bronc-Dave Winfield, RF Padres/Yankees/Angels/etc.
122. Clockwork Orange-Lou Brock, OF Cubs/Cardinals
123. Red Rocket RC-Robb Nen, P Rangers/Marlins/Giants
124. Atwater-Billy Williams, LF Cubs/A's
125. BroncoLB52-Charlie Gehringer, 2B Tigers
126. -Slap--Frankie Frisch, 2B/3B/SS Giants/Cardinals
127. killericon-Harold "Pie" Traynor, 3B Pirates
128. JCMElway-Jim Bunning, P Tigers/Phillies/Pirates

Round 17
129. JCMElway-Bruce Sutter, P Cubs/Cardinals/Braves
130. killericon-Carlos Delgado, 1B Blue Jays/Marlins/Mets
131. -Slap--Tris Speaker, CF Red Sox/Indians/Senators/Athletics
132. BroncoLB52
133. Atwater
134. Red Rocket RC
135. Clockwork Orange
136. Breck Bronc


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I was thinking about taking him and letting him room with Cobb.
They would have loved it. Those two mean bastards were thick as thieves.

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They would have loved it. Those two mean bastards were thick as thieves.

Now I'll just have to go with my original plan and room Cobb & Gibson together. You know, just to see what happens.
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Round 1
1. JCMElway-George Herman "Babe" Ruth, P/OF, Red Sox/Yankees/Braves
2. killericon-Henry "Hank" Aaron, OF Braves/Brewers
3. -Slap--Ted Williams, OF Red Sox
4. BroncoLB52-Willie Mays, OF, Giants/Mets
5. Atwater-Lou Gehrig, 1B Yankees
6. Red Rocket RC-Cy Young, P, Spiders/Perfectos/Americans/Naps
7. Clockwork Orange-Ty Cobb, OF Tigers/Athletics
8. Breck Bronc-Honus Wagner, SS Colonels/Pirates

Round 2
9. Breck Bronc-Mickey Mantle, CF Yankees
10. Clockwork Orange-Walter Johnson, P Senators
11. Red Rocket RC-Pete Alexander, P Phillies/Cubs/Cardinals
12. Atwater-Sandy Koufax, P Dodgers
13. BroncoLB52-Stan Musial, LF/1B Cardinals
14. -Slap--Rogers Hornsby, 2B Cardinals/Giants/Braves/Cubs/Browns
15. killericon-Lefty Grove, P Athletics/Red Sox
16. JCMElway-Joe Dimaggio, CF Yankees

Round 3
17. JCMElway-Roger Clemens, P Red Sox/Blue Jays/Yankees/Astros
18. killericon-Eddie Collins, 2B Athletics/White Sox
19. -Slap--Christy Mathewson, P Giants/Reds
20. BroncoLB52-Frank Robinson, RF Reds/Orioles/Angels
21. Atwater-Earl Weaver, Manager Orioles
22. Red Rocket RC-Warren Spahn, P Braves/Mets/Giants
23. Clockwork Orange-Bob Gibson, P Cardinals
24. Breck Bronc-Tom Seaver, P Mets/Reds/White Sox, Red Sox

Round 4
25. Breck Bronc-Rickey Henderson, LF A's/Yankees/etc.
26. Clockwork Orange-Johnny Bench, C Reds
27. Red Rocket RC-Nolan Ryan P Mets/Angels/Astros/Rangers
28. Atwater-Thurman Munson, C Yankees
29. BroncoLB52-Albert Pujols, 1B Cardinals
30. -Slap--Mike Schmidt, 3B Phillies
31. killericon-Mike Piazza, C Dodgers/Marlins/Mets/Padres
32. JCMElway-Al Kaline, RF Detroit Tigers

Round 5
33. JCMElway-Roberto Clemente, RF Pittsburgh Pirates
34. killericon-Cal Ripken Jr., SS Orioles
35. -Slap--Jimmie Foxx, 1B Athletics/Red Sox/Cubs/Phillies
36. BroncoLB52-"Bullet" Bob Feller, P Indians
37. Atwater-Derek Jeter, SS Yankees
38. Red Rocket RC-Gaylord Perry, P Giants/Indians/Rangers/etc.
39. Clockwork Orange-Alex Rodriguez, SS/3B Mariners/Rangers/Yankees
40. Breck Bronc-Joe Morgan, 2B Reds, Colt .45's/Astros/etc.

Round 6
41. Breck Bronc-Josh Gibson, C Grays/Crawfords
42. Clockwork Orange-Randy Johnson, P Expos/Mariners/Astros/D-Backs/Yankees
43. Red Rocket RC-Roy Campanella, C Dodgers
44. Atwater-B*rry B*nds, LF Pirates/Giants
45. BroncoLB52-Pedro Martinez, P Dodgers/Expos/Red Sox/Mets
46. -Slap--Steve Carlton, P Cardinals/Phillies/Giants/White Sox/etc.
47. killericon-Sammy Sosa, RF White Sox/Cubs/Orioles
48. JCMElway-Ernie Banks, SS Cubs

Round 7
49. JCMElway-Jackie Robinson, 2B Dodgers
50. killericon-Ken Griffey Jr., CF Mariners/Reds
51. -Slap--Ozzie Smith, SS Padres/Cardinals
52. BroncoLB52-George Brett, 3B Royals
53. Atwater-Eric Gagne, P Dodgers
54. Red Rocket RC-Tony Gwynn, OF Padres
55. Clockwork Orange-Mariano Rivera, P Yankees
56. Breck Bronc-Reggie Jackson, OF A's/Yankees/Orioles/Angels

Round 8
57. Breck Bronc-Hank Greenberg, 1B Tigers/Pirates
58. Clockwork Orange-Brooks Robinson, 3B Orioles
59. Red Rocket RC-David Ortiz, DH Twins/Red Sox
60. Atwater-Wade Boggs, 3B Red Sox/Yankees, Devil Rays
61. BroncoLB52-Yogi Berra, C Yankees
62. -Slap--Greg Maddux, P Cubs/Braves/Dodgers
63. killericon-Roy Halladay, P Blue Jays
64. JCMElway-Jim Palmer, P Orioles

Round 9
65. JCMElway-Pete Rose, 2B/OF/3B/1B Reds/Phillies/Expos
66. killericon-Kid Nichols, P Beaneaters/Cardinals/Phillies
67. -Slap--Ichiro Suzuki, RF Mariners
68. BroncoLB52-Satchel Paige, P Indians/Browns/Royals
69. Atwater-Kirby Puckett, CF Twins
70. Red Rocket RC-Ron Santo, 3B Cubs/White Sox
71. Clockwork Orange-"Shoeless" Joe Jackson, LF Athletics/Naps/White Sox-
72. Breck Bronc-Carl Hubbell, P Giants

Round 10
73. Breck Bronc-Mordecai "Three Finger" Brown, P Cardinals/Cubs/Reds
74. Clockwork Orange-Ryne Sandberg, 2B Phillies/Cubs
75. Red Rocket RC-Andruw Jones, CF Braves
76. Atwater-Nellie Fox, 2B A's, White Sox, Colt .45's
77. BroncoLB52-Whitey Ford, P Yankees
78. -Slap--Andre Dawson, OF Expos/Cubs/Red Sox/Marlins
79. killericon-Phil Niekro, P Braves/Yankees/Indians/Blue Jays
80. JCMElway-George Sisler, 1B Browns/Braves

Round 11
81. JCMElway-Hal Newhouser, P Tigers/Indians
82. killericon-Trevor Hoffman, P Marlins/Padres
83. -Slap--Ivan Rodriguez, C Rangers/Marlins/Tigers
84. BroncoLB52-Juan Marichal, P Giants/Red Sox/Dodgers
85. Atwater-Chuck Klein, RF Phillies/Cubs/Pirates
86. Red Rocket RC-Jeff Bagwell, 1B Astros
87. Clockwork Orange-Vladimir Guerrero, RF Expos/Angels
88. Breck Bronc-Miguel Cabrera, 3B Marlins

Round 12
89. Breck Bronc-Robin Roberts, P Phillies/Orioles
90. Clockwork Orange-Tom Glavine, P Braves/Mets
91. Red Rocket RC-Nap Lajoie, 2B Phillies/A's/Indians
92. Atwater-Paul Molitor, DH Brewers/Blue Jays/Twins
93. BroncoLB52-Mel Ott, RF/3B Giants
94. -Slap--Don Drysdale, P Dodgers
95. killericon-Mark Grace, 1B Cubs/D-Backs
96. JCMElway-Dizzy Dean, P Cardinals/Cubs/Browns

Round 13
97. JCMElway-Rod Carew, 2B Twins/Angels
98. killericon-Hoyt Wilhelm, P Giants/Orioles/White Sox/etc.
99. -Slap--Goose Gossage, P White Sox/Pirates/Yankees/etc.
100. BroncoLB52-Eddie Matthews, 3B Braves/Astros/Tigers
101. Atwater-Early Wynn, P Senators/Indians/White Sox
102. Red Rocket RC-Carl Yastrzemski, LF Red Sox
103. Clockwork Orange-Harmon Killebrew, 1B Senators/Twins/Royals
104. Breck Bronc-Fergie Jenkins, P Cubs/Rangers/Red Sox/Phillies

Round 14
105. Breck Bronc-Don Mattingly, 1B Yankees
106. Clockwork Orange-John Smoltz, P Braves
107. Red Rocket RC-Pee Wee Reese, SS Dodgers
108. Atwater-Catfish Hunter, P A's/Yankees
109. BroncoLB52-Dennis Eckersley, P Indians/Red Sox/Cubs/etc.
110. -Slap--Willie Stargell, LF Pirates
111. killericon-David Wells, P Blue Jays/Tigers/Reds/Yankees/etc.
112. JCMElway-Rollie Fingers, P A's/Padres/Brewers

Round 15
113. JCMElway-Mickey Cochrane, C A's/Tigers
114. killericon-Kenny Rogers, P Rangers/Yankees/A's/etc.
115. -Slap--Ted Simmons, C Cardinals/Brewers/Braves
116. BroncoLB52-Miguel Tejada, SS A's/Orioles
117. Atwater-Lefty Gomez, P Yankees/Senators
118. Red Rocket RC-John Franco, P Reds/Mets/Astros
119. Clockwork Orange-Manny Ramirez, LF Indians/Red Sox
120. Breck Bronc-Duke Snider, CF Dodgers/Mets/Giants

Round 16
121. Breck Bronc-Dave Winfield, RF Padres/Yankees/Angels/etc.
122. Clockwork Orange-Lou Brock, OF Cubs/Cardinals
123. Red Rocket RC-Robb Nen, P Rangers/Marlins/Giants
124. Atwater-Billy Williams, LF Cubs/A's
125. BroncoLB52-Charlie Gehringer, 2B Tigers
126. -Slap--Frankie Frisch, 2B/3B/SS Giants/Cardinals
127. killericon-Harold "Pie" Traynor, 3B Pirates
128. JCMElway-Jim Bunning, P Tigers/Phillies/Pirates

Round 17
129. JCMElway-Bruce Sutter, P Cubs/Cardinals/Braves
130. killericon-Carlos Delgado, 1B Blue Jays/Marlins/Mets
131. -Slap--Tris Speaker, CF Red Sox/Indians/Senators/Athletics
132. BroncoLB52-Billy Wagner, P Astros/Phillies/Mets
133. Atwater
134. Red Rocket RC
135. Clockwork Orange
136. Breck Bronc


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DH-Paul Molitor
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Round 1
1. JCMElway-George Herman "Babe" Ruth, P/OF, Red Sox/Yankees/Braves
2. killericon-Henry "Hank" Aaron, OF Braves/Brewers
3. -Slap--Ted Williams, OF Red Sox
4. BroncoLB52-Willie Mays, OF, Giants/Mets
5. Atwater-Lou Gehrig, 1B Yankees
6. Red Rocket RC-Cy Young, P, Spiders/Perfectos/Americans/Naps
7. Clockwork Orange-Ty Cobb, OF Tigers/Athletics
8. Breck Bronc-Honus Wagner, SS Colonels/Pirates

Round 2
9. Breck Bronc-Mickey Mantle, CF Yankees
10. Clockwork Orange-Walter Johnson, P Senators
11. Red Rocket RC-Pete Alexander, P Phillies/Cubs/Cardinals
12. Atwater-Sandy Koufax, P Dodgers
13. BroncoLB52-Stan Musial, LF/1B Cardinals
14. -Slap--Rogers Hornsby, 2B Cardinals/Giants/Braves/Cubs/Browns
15. killericon-Lefty Grove, P Athletics/Red Sox
16. JCMElway-Joe Dimaggio, CF Yankees

Round 3
17. JCMElway-Roger Clemens, P Red Sox/Blue Jays/Yankees/Astros
18. killericon-Eddie Collins, 2B Athletics/White Sox
19. -Slap--Christy Mathewson, P Giants/Reds
20. BroncoLB52-Frank Robinson, RF Reds/Orioles/Angels
21. Atwater-Earl Weaver, Manager Orioles
22. Red Rocket RC-Warren Spahn, P Braves/Mets/Giants
23. Clockwork Orange-Bob Gibson, P Cardinals
24. Breck Bronc-Tom Seaver, P Mets/Reds/White Sox, Red Sox

Round 4
25. Breck Bronc-Rickey Henderson, LF A's/Yankees/etc.
26. Clockwork Orange-Johnny Bench, C Reds
27. Red Rocket RC-Nolan Ryan P Mets/Angels/Astros/Rangers
28. Atwater-Thurman Munson, C Yankees
29. BroncoLB52-Albert Pujols, 1B Cardinals
30. -Slap--Mike Schmidt, 3B Phillies
31. killericon-Mike Piazza, C Dodgers/Marlins/Mets/Padres
32. JCMElway-Al Kaline, RF Detroit Tigers

Round 5
33. JCMElway-Roberto Clemente, RF Pittsburgh Pirates
34. killericon-Cal Ripken Jr., SS Orioles
35. -Slap--Jimmie Foxx, 1B Athletics/Red Sox/Cubs/Phillies
36. BroncoLB52-"Bullet" Bob Feller, P Indians
37. Atwater-Derek Jeter, SS Yankees
38. Red Rocket RC-Gaylord Perry, P Giants/Indians/Rangers/etc.
39. Clockwork Orange-Alex Rodriguez, SS/3B Mariners/Rangers/Yankees
40. Breck Bronc-Joe Morgan, 2B Reds, Colt .45's/Astros/etc.

Round 6
41. Breck Bronc-Josh Gibson, C Grays/Crawfords
42. Clockwork Orange-Randy Johnson, P Expos/Mariners/Astros/D-Backs/Yankees
43. Red Rocket RC-Roy Campanella, C Dodgers
44. Atwater-B*rry B*nds, LF Pirates/Giants
45. BroncoLB52-Pedro Martinez, P Dodgers/Expos/Red Sox/Mets
46. -Slap--Steve Carlton, P Cardinals/Phillies/Giants/White Sox/etc.
47. killericon-Sammy Sosa, RF White Sox/Cubs/Orioles
48. JCMElway-Ernie Banks, SS Cubs

Round 7
49. JCMElway-Jackie Robinson, 2B Dodgers
50. killericon-Ken Griffey Jr., CF Mariners/Reds
51. -Slap--Ozzie Smith, SS Padres/Cardinals
52. BroncoLB52-George Brett, 3B Royals
53. Atwater-Eric Gagne, P Dodgers
54. Red Rocket RC-Tony Gwynn, OF Padres
55. Clockwork Orange-Mariano Rivera, P Yankees
56. Breck Bronc-Reggie Jackson, OF A's/Yankees/Orioles/Angels

Round 8
57. Breck Bronc-Hank Greenberg, 1B Tigers/Pirates
58. Clockwork Orange-Brooks Robinson, 3B Orioles
59. Red Rocket RC-David Ortiz, DH Twins/Red Sox
60. Atwater-Wade Boggs, 3B Red Sox/Yankees, Devil Rays
61. BroncoLB52-Yogi Berra, C Yankees
62. -Slap--Greg Maddux, P Cubs/Braves/Dodgers
63. killericon-Roy Halladay, P Blue Jays
64. JCMElway-Jim Palmer, P Orioles

Round 9
65. JCMElway-Pete Rose, 2B/OF/3B/1B Reds/Phillies/Expos
66. killericon-Kid Nichols, P Beaneaters/Cardinals/Phillies
67. -Slap--Ichiro Suzuki, RF Mariners
68. BroncoLB52-Satchel Paige, P Indians/Browns/Royals
69. Atwater-Kirby Puckett, CF Twins
70. Red Rocket RC-Ron Santo, 3B Cubs/White Sox
71. Clockwork Orange-"Shoeless" Joe Jackson, LF Athletics/Naps/White Sox-
72. Breck Bronc-Carl Hubbell, P Giants

Round 10
73. Breck Bronc-Mordecai "Three Finger" Brown, P Cardinals/Cubs/Reds
74. Clockwork Orange-Ryne Sandberg, 2B Phillies/Cubs
75. Red Rocket RC-Andruw Jones, CF Braves
76. Atwater-Nellie Fox, 2B A's, White Sox, Colt .45's
77. BroncoLB52-Whitey Ford, P Yankees
78. -Slap--Andre Dawson, OF Expos/Cubs/Red Sox/Marlins
79. killericon-Phil Niekro, P Braves/Yankees/Indians/Blue Jays
80. JCMElway-George Sisler, 1B Browns/Braves

Round 11
81. JCMElway-Hal Newhouser, P Tigers/Indians
82. killericon-Trevor Hoffman, P Marlins/Padres
83. -Slap--Ivan Rodriguez, C Rangers/Marlins/Tigers
84. BroncoLB52-Juan Marichal, P Giants/Red Sox/Dodgers
85. Atwater-Chuck Klein, RF Phillies/Cubs/Pirates
86. Red Rocket RC-Jeff Bagwell, 1B Astros
87. Clockwork Orange-Vladimir Guerrero, RF Expos/Angels
88. Breck Bronc-Miguel Cabrera, 3B Marlins

Round 12
89. Breck Bronc-Robin Roberts, P Phillies/Orioles
90. Clockwork Orange-Tom Glavine, P Braves/Mets
91. Red Rocket RC-Nap Lajoie, 2B Phillies/A's/Indians
92. Atwater-Paul Molitor, DH Brewers/Blue Jays/Twins
93. BroncoLB52-Mel Ott, RF/3B Giants
94. -Slap--Don Drysdale, P Dodgers
95. killericon-Mark Grace, 1B Cubs/D-Backs
96. JCMElway-Dizzy Dean, P Cardinals/Cubs/Browns

Round 13
97. JCMElway-Rod Carew, 2B Twins/Angels
98. killericon-Hoyt Wilhelm, P Giants/Orioles/White Sox/etc.
99. -Slap--Goose Gossage, P White Sox/Pirates/Yankees/etc.
100. BroncoLB52-Eddie Matthews, 3B Braves/Astros/Tigers
101. Atwater-Early Wynn, P Senators/Indians/White Sox
102. Red Rocket RC-Carl Yastrzemski, LF Red Sox
103. Clockwork Orange-Harmon Killebrew, 1B Senators/Twins/Royals
104. Breck Bronc-Fergie Jenkins, P Cubs/Rangers/Red Sox/Phillies

Round 14
105. Breck Bronc-Don Mattingly, 1B Yankees
106. Clockwork Orange-John Smoltz, P Braves
107. Red Rocket RC-Pee Wee Reese, SS Dodgers
108. Atwater-Catfish Hunter, P A's/Yankees
109. BroncoLB52-Dennis Eckersley, P Indians/Red Sox/Cubs/etc.
110. -Slap--Willie Stargell, LF Pirates
111. killericon-David Wells, P Blue Jays/Tigers/Reds/Yankees/etc.
112. JCMElway-Rollie Fingers, P A's/Padres/Brewers

Round 15
113. JCMElway-Mickey Cochrane, C A's/Tigers
114. killericon-Kenny Rogers, P Rangers/Yankees/A's/etc.
115. -Slap--Ted Simmons, C Cardinals/Brewers/Braves
116. BroncoLB52-Miguel Tejada, SS A's/Orioles
117. Atwater-Lefty Gomez, P Yankees/Senators
118. Red Rocket RC-John Franco, P Reds/Mets/Astros
119. Clockwork Orange-Manny Ramirez, LF Indians/Red Sox
120. Breck Bronc-Duke Snider, CF Dodgers/Mets/Giants

Round 16
121. Breck Bronc-Dave Winfield, RF Padres/Yankees/Angels/etc.
122. Clockwork Orange-Lou Brock, OF Cubs/Cardinals
123. Red Rocket RC-Robb Nen, P Rangers/Marlins/Giants
124. Atwater-Billy Williams, LF Cubs/A's
125. BroncoLB52-Charlie Gehringer, 2B Tigers
126. -Slap--Frankie Frisch, 2B/3B/SS Giants/Cardinals
127. killericon-Harold "Pie" Traynor, 3B Pirates
128. JCMElway-Jim Bunning, P Tigers/Phillies/Pirates

Round 17
129. JCMElway-Bruce Sutter, P Cubs/Cardinals/Braves
130. killericon-Carlos Delgado, 1B Blue Jays/Marlins/Mets
131. -Slap--Tris Speaker, CF Red Sox/Indians/Senators/Athletics
132. BroncoLB52-Billy Wagner, P Astros/Phillies/Mets
133. Atwater-Curt Schilling, P Orioles/Astros/Phillies/DBacks/Red Sox
134. Red Rocket RC
135. Clockwork Orange
136. Breck Bronc


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Red Rocket RC's time has expired, that puts me on the clock.

The Denver Bears select Lee Smith, P Cubs/Red Sox/Cardinals/etc..



Code:
 Year Ag Tm  Lg  W   L   G   GS  CG SHO  GF SV   IP     H    R   ER   HR  BB   SO  HBP  WP  BFP  IBB  BK  ERA *lgERA *ERA+ WHIP
+--------------+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+--+------+----+----+----+---+----+----+---+---+-----+---+---+-----+-----+----+-----+
 1980 22 CHC NL   2   0  18   0   0   0   6  0   21.7   21    9    7   0   14   17   0   0    97   5   0  2.91  3.93  135 1.615
 1981 23 CHC NL   3   6  40   1   0   0  12  1   66.7   57   31   26   2   31   50   1   7   280   8   1  3.51  3.70  105 1.320
 1982 24 CHC NL   2   5  72   5   0   0  38 17  117.0  105   38   35   5   37   99   3   6   480   5   1  2.69  3.75  139 1.214
 1983 25 CHC NL   4  10  66   0   0   0  56 29  103.3   70   23   19   5   41   91   1   5   413  14   2  1.65  3.82  231 1.074
 1984 26 CHC NL   9   7  69   0   0   0  59 33  101.0   98   42   41   6   35   86   0   6   428   7   0  3.65  3.92  107 1.317
 1985 27 CHC NL   7   4  65   0   0   0  57 33   97.7   87   35   33   9   32  112   1   4   397   6   0  3.04  3.99  131 1.218
 1986 28 CHC NL   9   9  66   0   0   0  59 31   90.3   69   32   31   7   42   93   0   2   372  11   0  3.09  4.06  131 1.229
 1987 29 CHC NL   4  10  62   0   0   0  55 36   83.7   84   30   29   4   32   96   0   4   360   5   0  3.12  4.29  138 1.386
 1988 30 BOS AL   4   5  64   0   0   0  57 29   83.7   72   34   26   7   37   96   1   2   363   6   0  2.80  4.13  148 1.303
 1989 31 BOS AL   6   1  64   0   0   0  50 25   70.7   53   30   28   6   33   96   0   1   290   6   0  3.57  4.13  116 1.217
 1990 32 TOT      5   5  64   0   0   0  53 31   83.0   71   24   19   3   29   87   0   2   344   7   0  2.06  3.88  188 1.205
         BOS AL   2   1  11   0   0   0   8  4   14.3   13    4    3   0    9   17   0   1    64   2   0  1.88  4.07  216 1.535
         STL NL   3   4  53   0   0   0  45 27   68.7   58   20   16   3   20   70   0   1   280   5   0  2.10  3.83  183 1.136
 1991 33 STL NL   6   3  67   0   0   0  61 47   73.0   70   19   19   5   13   67   0   1   300   5   0  2.34  3.72  159 1.137
 1992 34 STL NL   4   9  70   0   0   0  55 43   75.0   62   28   26   4   26   60   0   2   310   4   0  3.12  3.40  109 1.173
 1993 35 TOT      2   4  63   0   0   0  56 46   58.0   53   25   25  11   14   60   0   1   239   2   0  3.88  3.97  102 1.155
         STL NL   2   4  55   0   0   0  48 43   50.0   49   25   25  11    9   49   0   1   206   1   0  4.50  3.93   87 1.160
         NYY AL   0   0   8   0   0   0   8  3    8.0    4    0    0   0    5   11   0   0    33   1   0  0.00  4.25  inf 1.125
 1994 36 BAL AL   1   4  41   0   0   0  39 33   38.3   34   16   14   6   11   42   0   0   160   1   0  3.29  5.00  152 1.174
 1995 37 CAL AL   0   5  52   0   0   0  51 37   49.3   42   19   19   3   25   43   1   1   209   4   0  3.47  4.72  136 1.358
 1996 38 TOT      3   4  54   0   0   0  24  2   55.3   57   24   23   4   26   41   1   3   245   4   0  3.74  4.32  116 1.500
         CAL AL   0   0  11   0   0   0   8  0   11.0    8    4    3   0    3    6   0   1    44   0   0  2.45  4.90  200 1.000
         CIN NL   3   4  43   0   0   0  16  2   44.3   49   20   20   4   23   35   1   2   201   4   0  4.06  4.18  103 1.624
 1997 39 MON NL   0   1  25   0   0   0  14  5   21.7   28   16   14   2    8   15   1   0   100   0   0  5.82  4.21   72 1.662
+--------------+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+--+------+----+----+----+---+----+----+---+---+-----+---+---+-----+-----+----+-----+
 18 Years            92       6       0    478        1133       434      486       10  47  5387 100   4  3.03  3.99  132 1.256
 WL%= .436       71    1022       0     802    1289.3       475       89      1251


Starting Lineup
1B Harmon Killebrew
2B Ryne Sandberg
SS Alex Rodriguez
3B Brooks Robinson
LF "Shoeless" Joe Jackson
CF Ty Cobb
RF Vladimir Guerrero
C Johnny Bench
DH Manny Ramirez

Bench
OF Lou Brock

Starting Pitchers
P Walter Johnson
P Bob Gibson
P Randy Johnson
P Tom Glavine
P John Smoltz

Bullpen
P Mariano Rivera
P Lee Smith
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Round 1
1. JCMElway-George Herman "Babe" Ruth, P/OF, Red Sox/Yankees/Braves
2. killericon-Henry "Hank" Aaron, OF Braves/Brewers
3. -Slap--Ted Williams, OF Red Sox
4. BroncoLB52-Willie Mays, OF, Giants/Mets
5. Atwater-Lou Gehrig, 1B Yankees
6. Red Rocket RC-Cy Young, P, Spiders/Perfectos/Americans/Naps
7. Clockwork Orange-Ty Cobb, OF Tigers/Athletics
8. Breck Bronc-Honus Wagner, SS Colonels/Pirates

Round 2
9. Breck Bronc-Mickey Mantle, CF Yankees
10. Clockwork Orange-Walter Johnson, P Senators
11. Red Rocket RC-Pete Alexander, P Phillies/Cubs/Cardinals
12. Atwater-Sandy Koufax, P Dodgers
13. BroncoLB52-Stan Musial, LF/1B Cardinals
14. -Slap--Rogers Hornsby, 2B Cardinals/Giants/Braves/Cubs/Browns
15. killericon-Lefty Grove, P Athletics/Red Sox
16. JCMElway-Joe Dimaggio, CF Yankees

Round 3
17. JCMElway-Roger Clemens, P Red Sox/Blue Jays/Yankees/Astros
18. killericon-Eddie Collins, 2B Athletics/White Sox
19. -Slap--Christy Mathewson, P Giants/Reds
20. BroncoLB52-Frank Robinson, RF Reds/Orioles/Angels
21. Atwater-Earl Weaver, Manager Orioles
22. Red Rocket RC-Warren Spahn, P Braves/Mets/Giants
23. Clockwork Orange-Bob Gibson, P Cardinals
24. Breck Bronc-Tom Seaver, P Mets/Reds/White Sox, Red Sox

Round 4
25. Breck Bronc-Rickey Henderson, LF A's/Yankees/etc.
26. Clockwork Orange-Johnny Bench, C Reds
27. Red Rocket RC-Nolan Ryan P Mets/Angels/Astros/Rangers
28. Atwater-Thurman Munson, C Yankees
29. BroncoLB52-Albert Pujols, 1B Cardinals
30. -Slap--Mike Schmidt, 3B Phillies
31. killericon-Mike Piazza, C Dodgers/Marlins/Mets/Padres
32. JCMElway-Al Kaline, RF Detroit Tigers

Round 5
33. JCMElway-Roberto Clemente, RF Pittsburgh Pirates
34. killericon-Cal Ripken Jr., SS Orioles
35. -Slap--Jimmie Foxx, 1B Athletics/Red Sox/Cubs/Phillies
36. BroncoLB52-"Bullet" Bob Feller, P Indians
37. Atwater-Derek Jeter, SS Yankees
38. Red Rocket RC-Gaylord Perry, P Giants/Indians/Rangers/etc.
39. Clockwork Orange-Alex Rodriguez, SS/3B Mariners/Rangers/Yankees
40. Breck Bronc-Joe Morgan, 2B Reds, Colt .45's/Astros/etc.

Round 6
41. Breck Bronc-Josh Gibson, C Grays/Crawfords
42. Clockwork Orange-Randy Johnson, P Expos/Mariners/Astros/D-Backs/Yankees
43. Red Rocket RC-Roy Campanella, C Dodgers
44. Atwater-B*rry B*nds, LF Pirates/Giants
45. BroncoLB52-Pedro Martinez, P Dodgers/Expos/Red Sox/Mets
46. -Slap--Steve Carlton, P Cardinals/Phillies/Giants/White Sox/etc.
47. killericon-Sammy Sosa, RF White Sox/Cubs/Orioles
48. JCMElway-Ernie Banks, SS Cubs

Round 7
49. JCMElway-Jackie Robinson, 2B Dodgers
50. killericon-Ken Griffey Jr., CF Mariners/Reds
51. -Slap--Ozzie Smith, SS Padres/Cardinals
52. BroncoLB52-George Brett, 3B Royals
53. Atwater-Eric Gagne, P Dodgers
54. Red Rocket RC-Tony Gwynn, OF Padres
55. Clockwork Orange-Mariano Rivera, P Yankees
56. Breck Bronc-Reggie Jackson, OF A's/Yankees/Orioles/Angels

Round 8
57. Breck Bronc-Hank Greenberg, 1B Tigers/Pirates
58. Clockwork Orange-Brooks Robinson, 3B Orioles
59. Red Rocket RC-David Ortiz, DH Twins/Red Sox
60. Atwater-Wade Boggs, 3B Red Sox/Yankees, Devil Rays
61. BroncoLB52-Yogi Berra, C Yankees
62. -Slap--Greg Maddux, P Cubs/Braves/Dodgers
63. killericon-Roy Halladay, P Blue Jays
64. JCMElway-Jim Palmer, P Orioles

Round 9
65. JCMElway-Pete Rose, 2B/OF/3B/1B Reds/Phillies/Expos
66. killericon-Kid Nichols, P Beaneaters/Cardinals/Phillies
67. -Slap--Ichiro Suzuki, RF Mariners
68. BroncoLB52-Satchel Paige, P Indians/Browns/Royals
69. Atwater-Kirby Puckett, CF Twins
70. Red Rocket RC-Ron Santo, 3B Cubs/White Sox
71. Clockwork Orange-"Shoeless" Joe Jackson, LF Athletics/Naps/White Sox-
72. Breck Bronc-Carl Hubbell, P Giants

Round 10
73. Breck Bronc-Mordecai "Three Finger" Brown, P Cardinals/Cubs/Reds
74. Clockwork Orange-Ryne Sandberg, 2B Phillies/Cubs
75. Red Rocket RC-Andruw Jones, CF Braves
76. Atwater-Nellie Fox, 2B A's, White Sox, Colt .45's
77. BroncoLB52-Whitey Ford, P Yankees
78. -Slap--Andre Dawson, OF Expos/Cubs/Red Sox/Marlins
79. killericon-Phil Niekro, P Braves/Yankees/Indians/Blue Jays
80. JCMElway-George Sisler, 1B Browns/Braves

Round 11
81. JCMElway-Hal Newhouser, P Tigers/Indians
82. killericon-Trevor Hoffman, P Marlins/Padres
83. -Slap--Ivan Rodriguez, C Rangers/Marlins/Tigers
84. BroncoLB52-Juan Marichal, P Giants/Red Sox/Dodgers
85. Atwater-Chuck Klein, RF Phillies/Cubs/Pirates
86. Red Rocket RC-Jeff Bagwell, 1B Astros
87. Clockwork Orange-Vladimir Guerrero, RF Expos/Angels
88. Breck Bronc-Miguel Cabrera, 3B Marlins

Round 12
89. Breck Bronc-Robin Roberts, P Phillies/Orioles
90. Clockwork Orange-Tom Glavine, P Braves/Mets
91. Red Rocket RC-Nap Lajoie, 2B Phillies/A's/Indians
92. Atwater-Paul Molitor, DH Brewers/Blue Jays/Twins
93. BroncoLB52-Mel Ott, RF/3B Giants
94. -Slap--Don Drysdale, P Dodgers
95. killericon-Mark Grace, 1B Cubs/D-Backs
96. JCMElway-Dizzy Dean, P Cardinals/Cubs/Browns

Round 13
97. JCMElway-Rod Carew, 2B Twins/Angels
98. killericon-Hoyt Wilhelm, P Giants/Orioles/White Sox/etc.
99. -Slap--Goose Gossage, P White Sox/Pirates/Yankees/etc.
100. BroncoLB52-Eddie Matthews, 3B Braves/Astros/Tigers
101. Atwater-Early Wynn, P Senators/Indians/White Sox
102. Red Rocket RC-Carl Yastrzemski, LF Red Sox
103. Clockwork Orange-Harmon Killebrew, 1B Senators/Twins/Royals
104. Breck Bronc-Fergie Jenkins, P Cubs/Rangers/Red Sox/Phillies

Round 14
105. Breck Bronc-Don Mattingly, 1B Yankees
106. Clockwork Orange-John Smoltz, P Braves
107. Red Rocket RC-Pee Wee Reese, SS Dodgers
108. Atwater-Catfish Hunter, P A's/Yankees
109. BroncoLB52-Dennis Eckersley, P Indians/Red Sox/Cubs/etc.
110. -Slap--Willie Stargell, LF Pirates
111. killericon-David Wells, P Blue Jays/Tigers/Reds/Yankees/etc.
112. JCMElway-Rollie Fingers, P A's/Padres/Brewers

Round 15
113. JCMElway-Mickey Cochrane, C A's/Tigers
114. killericon-Kenny Rogers, P Rangers/Yankees/A's/etc.
115. -Slap--Ted Simmons, C Cardinals/Brewers/Braves
116. BroncoLB52-Miguel Tejada, SS A's/Orioles
117. Atwater-Lefty Gomez, P Yankees/Senators
118. Red Rocket RC-John Franco, P Reds/Mets/Astros
119. Clockwork Orange-Manny Ramirez, LF Indians/Red Sox
120. Breck Bronc-Duke Snider, CF Dodgers/Mets/Giants

Round 16
121. Breck Bronc-Dave Winfield, RF Padres/Yankees/Angels/etc.
122. Clockwork Orange-Lou Brock, OF Cubs/Cardinals
123. Red Rocket RC-Robb Nen, P Rangers/Marlins/Giants
124. Atwater-Billy Williams, LF Cubs/A's
125. BroncoLB52-Charlie Gehringer, 2B Tigers
126. -Slap--Frankie Frisch, 2B/3B/SS Giants/Cardinals
127. killericon-Harold "Pie" Traynor, 3B Pirates
128. JCMElway-Jim Bunning, P Tigers/Phillies/Pirates

Round 17
129. JCMElway-Bruce Sutter, P Cubs/Cardinals/Braves
130. killericon-Carlos Delgado, 1B Blue Jays/Marlins/Mets
131. -Slap--Tris Speaker, CF Red Sox/Indians/Senators/Athletics
132. BroncoLB52-Billy Wagner, P Astros/Phillies/Mets
133. Atwater-Curt Schilling, P Orioles/Astros/Phillies/DBacks/Red Sox
134. Red Rocket RC
135. Clockwork Orange-Lee Smith, P Cubs/Red Sox/Cardinals/etc.
136. Breck Bronc


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I've always thought new-school closer (ie not Goose Gossage and the like) was the most overrated position in all of sports so I'm not going to take a true closer for my bullpen. Eric Gagne was a mediocre starter with good stuff until he moved to the bullpen and became one of the greatest closers ever.

I'll stock my bullpen with great arms and let them use all they have for one inning at a time (look at what Brad Penny did in the All-Star game knowing he was only going to pitch a few innings; he let it loose and dominated everyone but the otherworldly Vlad Guerrero).

I'll take Dazzy Vance, P, Dodgers/Yankees.

I liked this story from Bill James:

"Dazzy Vance, blessed with a blazing fastball, had major league trials beginning in 1915, but did not establish himself as a major league pitcher until 1922, when he was 31 years old. He could not sustain effectiveness for any period of time, up to age 30, because of a chronic sore arm. At New Orleans in 1920, Dazzy banged his arm on the table in the middle of a poker game, and broke something off. What had been a chronic pain became a source of sharp, unbearbale pain, neccessitating emergency surgery by a doctor Vance didn't know from Adam. No one knows exactly what the doctor did; my guess is that he took bone chips and debris out of the elbow. In any case, the chronic pain disappeared, and Vance was a hard-throwing, hard-drinking, medical miracle for the next fifteen years."



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Year Ag Tm  Lg  W   L   G   GS  CG SHO  GF SV   IP     H    R   ER   HR  BB   SO  HBP  WP  BFP  IBB  BK  ERA *lgERA *ERA+ WHIP
+--------------+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+--+------+----+----+----+---+----+----+---+---+-----+---+---+-----+-----+----+-----+
 1915 24 TOT      0   4   9   4   1   0   4  0   30.7   26   17   14   1   21   18   3   1   134       0  4.11  2.91   71 1.533
         PIT NL   0   1   1   1   0   0   0  0    2.7    3    3    3   0    5    0   1   0    14       0 10.12  2.72   27 3.000
         NYY AL   0   3   8   3   1   0   4  0   28.0   23   14   11   1   16   18   2   1   120       0  3.54  2.93   83 1.393
 1918 27 NYY AL   0   0   2   0   0   0   1  0    2.3    9    5    4   0    2    0   0   0    15       0 15.43  2.82   18 4.714
 1922 31 BRO NL  18  12  36  30  16   5   4  0  245.7  259  122  101   9   94  134   8   5  1069       0  3.70  4.06  110 1.437
 1923 32 BRO NL  18  15  37  35  21   3   2  0  280.3  263  127  109  10  100  197  11   5  1187       0  3.50  3.87  111 1.295
 1924 33 BRO NL  28   6  35  34  30   3   1  0  308.3  238   89   74  11   77  262   9   4  1221       0  2.16  3.75  174 1.022
 1925 34 BRO NL  22   9  31  31  26   4   0  0  265.3  247  115  104   8   66  221  10   3  1089       0  3.53  4.18  118 1.180
 1926 35 BRO NL   9  10  24  22  12   0   2  1  169.0  172   80   73   7   58  140   1   1   713       1  3.89  3.82   98 1.361
 1927 36 BRO NL  16  15  34  32  25   2   2  1  273.3  242   98   82  12   69  184   6   2  1123       0  2.70  3.95  146 1.138
 1928 37 BRO NL  22  10  38  32  24   4   5  2  280.3  226   79   65  11   72  200   7   1  1126       0  2.09  3.98  191 1.063
 1929 38 BRO NL  14  13  31  26  17   1   3  0  231.3  244  110  100  15   47  126   9   3   978       0  3.89  4.62  119 1.258
 1930 39 BRO NL  17  15  35  31  20   4   3  0  258.7  241   97   75  15   55  173   5   4  1061       1  2.61  4.92  189 1.144
 1931 40 BRO NL  11  13  30  29  12   2   1  0  218.7  221   99   82  12   53  150   0   1   918       0  3.38  3.82  113 1.253
 1932 41 BRO NL  12  11  27  24   9   1   2  1  175.7  171   90   82  10   57  103   1   2   742       0  4.20  3.80   90 1.298
 1933 42 STL NL   6   2  28  11   2   0   8  3   99.0  105   42   39   3   28   67   1   3   427       0  3.55  3.47   98 1.343
 1934 43 TOT NL   1   3  25   6   1   0   4  1   77.0   90   47   39   5   25   42   3   1   341       0  4.56  4.20   92 1.494
         STL NL   1   1  19   4   1   0   3  1   59.0   62   26   24   4   14   33   2   1   248       0  3.66  4.22  115 1.288
         CIN NL   0   2   6   2   0   0   1  0   18.0   28   21   15   1   11    9   1   0    93       0  7.50  4.10   55 2.167
 1935 44 BRO NL   3   2  20   0   0   0  11  2   51.0   55   29   25   3   16   28   3   1   225       0  4.41  3.98   90 1.392
+--------------+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+--+------+----+----+----+---+----+----+---+---+-----+---+---+-----+-----+----+-----+
 16 Yr WL% .585 197 140 442 347 216  29  53 11 2966.7 2809 1246 1068 132  840 2045  77  37 12369       2  3.24  4.05  125 1.230
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Old 08-15-2006, 08:17 PM   #374
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With my next pick the Denver Zephyers select Johan Santana, P, Twins.

Santana has dominated hitters since he became a starter in the middle of 2003. I think a move back to the bullpen, where he started his major league career in 2000, will be much easier for Johan than his first go round in the pen.



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Year Ag Tm  Lg  W   L   G   GS  CG SHO  GF SV   IP     H    R   ER   HR  BB   SO  HBP  WP  BFP  IBB  BK  ERA *lgERA *ERA+ WHIP
+--------------+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+--+------+----+----+----+---+----+----+---+---+-----+---+---+-----+-----+----+-----+
 2000 21 MIN AL   2   3  30   5   0   0   9  0   86.0  102   64   62  11   54   64   2   5   398   0   2  6.49  5.27   81 1.814
 2001 22 MIN AL   1   0  15   4   0   0   5  0   43.7   50   25   23   6   16   28   3   3   195   0   0  4.74  4.53   95 1.511
 2002 23 MIN AL   8   6  27  14   0   0   2  1  108.3   84   41   36   7   49  137   1  15   452   0   2  2.99  4.42  148 1.228
 2003 24 MIN AL  12   3  45  18   0   0   7  0  158.3  127   56   54  17   47  169   3   6   644   1   2  3.07  4.62  151 1.099
 2004 25 MIN AL  20   6  34  34   1   1   0  0  228.0  156   70   66  24   54  265   9   7   881   0   0  2.61  4.73  182 0.921
 2005 26 MIN AL  16   7  33  33   3   2   0  0  231.7  180   77   74  22   45  238   1   8   910   1   0  2.87  4.40  153 0.971
+--------------+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+--+------+----+----+----+---+----+----+---+---+-----+---+---+-----+-----+----+-----+
  6 Yr WL% .702  59  25 184 108   4   3  23  1  856.0  699  333  315  87  265  901  19  44  3480   2   6  3.31  4.63  140 1.126
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Old 08-15-2006, 08:48 PM   #375
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Round 1
1. JCMElway-George Herman "Babe" Ruth, P/OF, Red Sox/Yankees/Braves
2. killericon-Henry "Hank" Aaron, OF Braves/Brewers
3. -Slap--Ted Williams, OF Red Sox
4. BroncoLB52-Willie Mays, OF, Giants/Mets
5. Atwater-Lou Gehrig, 1B Yankees
6. Red Rocket RC-Cy Young, P, Spiders/Perfectos/Americans/Naps
7. Clockwork Orange-Ty Cobb, OF Tigers/Athletics
8. Breck Bronc-Honus Wagner, SS Colonels/Pirates

Round 2
9. Breck Bronc-Mickey Mantle, CF Yankees
10. Clockwork Orange-Walter Johnson, P Senators
11. Red Rocket RC-Pete Alexander, P Phillies/Cubs/Cardinals
12. Atwater-Sandy Koufax, P Dodgers
13. BroncoLB52-Stan Musial, LF/1B Cardinals
14. -Slap--Rogers Hornsby, 2B Cardinals/Giants/Braves/Cubs/Browns
15. killericon-Lefty Grove, P Athletics/Red Sox
16. JCMElway-Joe Dimaggio, CF Yankees

Round 3
17. JCMElway-Roger Clemens, P Red Sox/Blue Jays/Yankees/Astros
18. killericon-Eddie Collins, 2B Athletics/White Sox
19. -Slap--Christy Mathewson, P Giants/Reds
20. BroncoLB52-Frank Robinson, RF Reds/Orioles/Angels
21. Atwater-Earl Weaver, Manager Orioles
22. Red Rocket RC-Warren Spahn, P Braves/Mets/Giants
23. Clockwork Orange-Bob Gibson, P Cardinals
24. Breck Bronc-Tom Seaver, P Mets/Reds/White Sox, Red Sox

Round 4
25. Breck Bronc-Rickey Henderson, LF A's/Yankees/etc.
26. Clockwork Orange-Johnny Bench, C Reds
27. Red Rocket RC-Nolan Ryan P Mets/Angels/Astros/Rangers
28. Atwater-Thurman Munson, C Yankees
29. BroncoLB52-Albert Pujols, 1B Cardinals
30. -Slap--Mike Schmidt, 3B Phillies
31. killericon-Mike Piazza, C Dodgers/Marlins/Mets/Padres
32. JCMElway-Al Kaline, RF Detroit Tigers

Round 5
33. JCMElway-Roberto Clemente, RF Pittsburgh Pirates
34. killericon-Cal Ripken Jr., SS Orioles
35. -Slap--Jimmie Foxx, 1B Athletics/Red Sox/Cubs/Phillies
36. BroncoLB52-"Bullet" Bob Feller, P Indians
37. Atwater-Derek Jeter, SS Yankees
38. Red Rocket RC-Gaylord Perry, P Giants/Indians/Rangers/etc.
39. Clockwork Orange-Alex Rodriguez, SS/3B Mariners/Rangers/Yankees
40. Breck Bronc-Joe Morgan, 2B Reds, Colt .45's/Astros/etc.

Round 6
41. Breck Bronc-Josh Gibson, C Grays/Crawfords
42. Clockwork Orange-Randy Johnson, P Expos/Mariners/Astros/D-Backs/Yankees
43. Red Rocket RC-Roy Campanella, C Dodgers
44. Atwater-B*rry B*nds, LF Pirates/Giants
45. BroncoLB52-Pedro Martinez, P Dodgers/Expos/Red Sox/Mets
46. -Slap--Steve Carlton, P Cardinals/Phillies/Giants/White Sox/etc.
47. killericon-Sammy Sosa, RF White Sox/Cubs/Orioles
48. JCMElway-Ernie Banks, SS Cubs

Round 7
49. JCMElway-Jackie Robinson, 2B Dodgers
50. killericon-Ken Griffey Jr., CF Mariners/Reds
51. -Slap--Ozzie Smith, SS Padres/Cardinals
52. BroncoLB52-George Brett, 3B Royals
53. Atwater-Eric Gagne, P Dodgers
54. Red Rocket RC-Tony Gwynn, OF Padres
55. Clockwork Orange-Mariano Rivera, P Yankees
56. Breck Bronc-Reggie Jackson, OF A's/Yankees/Orioles/Angels

Round 8
57. Breck Bronc-Hank Greenberg, 1B Tigers/Pirates
58. Clockwork Orange-Brooks Robinson, 3B Orioles
59. Red Rocket RC-David Ortiz, DH Twins/Red Sox
60. Atwater-Wade Boggs, 3B Red Sox/Yankees, Devil Rays
61. BroncoLB52-Yogi Berra, C Yankees
62. -Slap--Greg Maddux, P Cubs/Braves/Dodgers
63. killericon-Roy Halladay, P Blue Jays
64. JCMElway-Jim Palmer, P Orioles

Round 9
65. JCMElway-Pete Rose, 2B/OF/3B/1B Reds/Phillies/Expos
66. killericon-Kid Nichols, P Beaneaters/Cardinals/Phillies
67. -Slap--Ichiro Suzuki, RF Mariners
68. BroncoLB52-Satchel Paige, P Indians/Browns/Royals
69. Atwater-Kirby Puckett, CF Twins
70. Red Rocket RC-Ron Santo, 3B Cubs/White Sox
71. Clockwork Orange-"Shoeless" Joe Jackson, LF Athletics/Naps/White Sox-
72. Breck Bronc-Carl Hubbell, P Giants

Round 10
73. Breck Bronc-Mordecai "Three Finger" Brown, P Cardinals/Cubs/Reds
74. Clockwork Orange-Ryne Sandberg, 2B Phillies/Cubs
75. Red Rocket RC-Andruw Jones, CF Braves
76. Atwater-Nellie Fox, 2B A's, White Sox, Colt .45's
77. BroncoLB52-Whitey Ford, P Yankees
78. -Slap--Andre Dawson, OF Expos/Cubs/Red Sox/Marlins
79. killericon-Phil Niekro, P Braves/Yankees/Indians/Blue Jays
80. JCMElway-George Sisler, 1B Browns/Braves

Round 11
81. JCMElway-Hal Newhouser, P Tigers/Indians
82. killericon-Trevor Hoffman, P Marlins/Padres
83. -Slap--Ivan Rodriguez, C Rangers/Marlins/Tigers
84. BroncoLB52-Juan Marichal, P Giants/Red Sox/Dodgers
85. Atwater-Chuck Klein, RF Phillies/Cubs/Pirates
86. Red Rocket RC-Jeff Bagwell, 1B Astros
87. Clockwork Orange-Vladimir Guerrero, RF Expos/Angels
88. Breck Bronc-Miguel Cabrera, 3B Marlins

Round 12
89. Breck Bronc-Robin Roberts, P Phillies/Orioles
90. Clockwork Orange-Tom Glavine, P Braves/Mets
91. Red Rocket RC-Nap Lajoie, 2B Phillies/A's/Indians
92. Atwater-Paul Molitor, DH Brewers/Blue Jays/Twins
93. BroncoLB52-Mel Ott, RF/3B Giants
94. -Slap--Don Drysdale, P Dodgers
95. killericon-Mark Grace, 1B Cubs/D-Backs
96. JCMElway-Dizzy Dean, P Cardinals/Cubs/Browns

Round 13
97. JCMElway-Rod Carew, 2B Twins/Angels
98. killericon-Hoyt Wilhelm, P Giants/Orioles/White Sox/etc.
99. -Slap--Goose Gossage, P White Sox/Pirates/Yankees/etc.
100. BroncoLB52-Eddie Matthews, 3B Braves/Astros/Tigers
101. Atwater-Early Wynn, P Senators/Indians/White Sox
102. Red Rocket RC-Carl Yastrzemski, LF Red Sox
103. Clockwork Orange-Harmon Killebrew, 1B Senators/Twins/Royals
104. Breck Bronc-Fergie Jenkins, P Cubs/Rangers/Red Sox/Phillies

Round 14
105. Breck Bronc-Don Mattingly, 1B Yankees
106. Clockwork Orange-John Smoltz, P Braves
107. Red Rocket RC-Pee Wee Reese, SS Dodgers
108. Atwater-Catfish Hunter, P A's/Yankees
109. BroncoLB52-Dennis Eckersley, P Indians/Red Sox/Cubs/etc.
110. -Slap--Willie Stargell, LF Pirates
111. killericon-David Wells, P Blue Jays/Tigers/Reds/Yankees/etc.
112. JCMElway-Rollie Fingers, P A's/Padres/Brewers

Round 15
113. JCMElway-Mickey Cochrane, C A's/Tigers
114. killericon-Kenny Rogers, P Rangers/Yankees/A's/etc.
115. -Slap--Ted Simmons, C Cardinals/Brewers/Braves
116. BroncoLB52-Miguel Tejada, SS A's/Orioles
117. Atwater-Lefty Gomez, P Yankees/Senators
118. Red Rocket RC-John Franco, P Reds/Mets/Astros
119. Clockwork Orange-Manny Ramirez, LF Indians/Red Sox
120. Breck Bronc-Duke Snider, CF Dodgers/Mets/Giants

Round 16
121. Breck Bronc-Dave Winfield, RF Padres/Yankees/Angels/etc.
122. Clockwork Orange-Lou Brock, OF Cubs/Cardinals
123. Red Rocket RC-Robb Nen, P Rangers/Marlins/Giants
124. Atwater-Billy Williams, LF Cubs/A's
125. BroncoLB52-Charlie Gehringer, 2B Tigers
126. -Slap--Frankie Frisch, 2B/3B/SS Giants/Cardinals
127. killericon-Harold "Pie" Traynor, 3B Pirates
128. JCMElway-Jim Bunning, P Tigers/Phillies/Pirates

Round 17
129. JCMElway-Bruce Sutter, P Cubs/Cardinals/Braves
130. killericon-Carlos Delgado, 1B Blue Jays/Marlins/Mets
131. -Slap--Tris Speaker, CF Red Sox/Indians/Senators/Athletics
132. BroncoLB52-Billy Wagner, P Astros/Phillies/Mets
133. Atwater-Curt Schilling, P Orioles/Astros/Phillies/DBacks/Red Sox
134. Red Rocket RC
135. Clockwork Orange-Lee Smith, P Cubs/Red Sox/Cardinals/etc.
136. Breck Bronc-Dazzy Vance, P Dodgers/Yankees

Round 18
137. Breck Bronc-Johan Santana, P Twins
138. Clockwork Orange
139. Red Rocket RC
140. Atwater
141. BroncoLB52
142. -Slap-
143. killericon
144. JCMElway


That puts me back on the clock. I'll have my pick up as soon as I can. Sorry guys, I'm working some crazy hours this week (I'm actually at work now) but I'm keeping up as best I can.

Red Rocket RC may still make his selection at any time.
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