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Old 07-13-2006, 09:52 AM   #76
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First for clarity...I couldn't give a **** less about Soccer or its players. Soccer is great, if your country of origin has nothing to offer you but the solitude to fill a goat bladder with air and kick it at your neighbor's hut door.

2nd. I had heard on Tv that this guy was Born in Algeria.

France sucks, French people smell like bigfoots' infected dickhole,
they're unloyal, rude, condecending, stupid and cowardly people.

Ally mcBeal has more balls than France.

If the Italian called his mother a whore, I hope that headbutt hurt.
might I add ignorant to the generalization list Dagmar posted before? I think it should be on top of that list
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Old 07-13-2006, 09:53 AM   #77
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As a french I would like to say one word, what I see here is absolutely unbelievable.
Come in France and see by yourself if we are all stupid and antiamericans...Remember the hatred that we received by fox news and co when the france didn't follow Bush. We have nothing against american people , we are just in disagree with Bush's politic ( and to say the least we are not the lone in the world...) It doesn't mean that we are happy when an US soldier is wounded or killed. I respect all people , american, iraqi... and each victim is a drama.

I'm profondly disapointed cause I truly respect a lot your country and what you've done in WWII. And immense majority think like me. I invite you to come in normandy in june to see if the french don't remember what americans soldiers payed for our liberty. Of course we have some stupid peoples who mixed anything ( palestine, iraq, third reich...) but it's by stupidity and ignorance.

You think that we are pussies, fine. But I remember to you that we've made war all along our history... We are an old (too old maybe...) country who is fed up with war. We lost wars yes and we won some... but now we think that war is a failure, sometimes necessary but a failure. We had war on our soil a lot of time and we payed the cost, it's enough.

And last thing what are the links with Zidane or Armstrong? Zidane made a mistake he was red carded and it's justified. Armstrong won the " tour de france " seven times , he didn't beaten the french...

If I offended someone , I apologize cause it's not my goal.

Sorry for my very bad english.
Exactly. I don't understand the Armstrong thing. Now if Lemond was unpopular, I could sort of see it. But to think that Armstrong uses some substance that Ulrich doesn't .... I just don't see that. Armstrong won more tours and dominated his era as much as any other cyclist. I don't see why he should be disliked as much as he seems to be.

With bushii and iraq. We seem to forget the French offered 10K troops and money if we got that second UN sec council resolution. But they wanted long term nation building, and bushii was convinced the iraqies would all love chalabi as their new jefe. Wrong. But it's really more than that. Johnny Depp was right when he said somehting about America being a very large, very young dog with large teeth. But I think what makes Americans angry is that they think that the US put forth more effort per man/dollar/franc/euro to defend against aggression than other countries do. And that's probably correct, though the counter is that our lifestyle has been so affluent because other countries LEND us their money cause they see us as stable and able to protect their money, but we don't like to face that. And the French make the most obvious targets cause they're not into being "americanized" in food and culture.

You have by far the nicest county to cycle I've yet seen, and people were most always nice to me, esp when they saw a bicycle. I don't know that I'd want to cycle it alone now though, not in the political climate. Drunk English louts were fairly dangerous, but with a few incidents, people in France didn't want to kill me for being an American.
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Old 07-13-2006, 09:55 AM   #78
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Damn right he's a p***Y! Who headbutt's someone in the chest WTF? Punch a man in the face! Man Law, The French are Pussies
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As a french I would like to say one word, what I see here is absolutely unbelievable.
Come in France and see by yourself if we are all stupid and antiamericans...Remember the hatred that we received by fox news and co when the france didn't follow Bush. We have nothing against american people , we are just in disagree with Bush's politic ( and to say the least we are not the lone in the world...) It doesn't mean that we are happy when an US soldier is wounded or killed. I respect all people , american, iraqi... and each victim is a drama.

I'm profondly disapointed cause I truly respect a lot your country and what you've done in WWII. And immense majority think like me. I invite you to come in normandy in june to see if the french don't remember what americans soldiers payed for our liberty. Of course we have some stupid peoples who mixed anything ( palestine, iraq, third reich...) but it's by stupidity and ignorance.

You think that we are pussies, fine. But I remember to you that we've made war all along our history... We are an old (too old maybe...) country who is fed up with war. We lost wars yes and we won some... but now we think that war is a failure, sometimes necessary but a failure. We had war on our soil a lot of time and we payed the cost, it's enough.

And last thing what are the links with Zidane or Armstrong? Zidane made a mistake he was red carded and it's justified. Armstrong won the " tour de france " seven times , he didn't beaten the french...

If I offended someone , I apologize cause it's not my goal.

Sorry for my very bad english.
No offense taken.

Your opinion is an opinion and about as relevant to American's as French politics. Because, as I have stated, the French and indeed, most of Europe, just doesnt matter. They believe that they are somehow important, but, in the end, just some posturing appeasers who, in their long and self-important history have done nothing but cause trouble. Indeed, the world in which we live today is a direct result of the failures of the European governments and their people on a global scale. The Middle East's current state of affairs is a direct result of the failures of European policy and failed colonialism in the early and mid parts of last century.

Where does America fit in? Same place it has for the last century, fixing the mistakes of European elitists.

Yet, we are the bad guys to Europe.

As I said, **** Europe. Self-indulgant pricks. Leave the world a mess and expect us to clean it up then criticise when we do.
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Old 07-13-2006, 09:58 AM   #80
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Damn right he's a p***Y! Who headbutt's someone in the chest WTF? Punch a man in the face! Man Law, The French are Pussies
Personally, I'd of waited till one minute, and then headbutted the guy, and if he flopped like that I might have sack kicked him too.
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I would like to thank the French for something.
That Louisiana Purchase was a great deal.

I've traveled in Europe some, have had French People live in my home, and my grandfather was a medic in the 101 in WWII. I don't form my opinion from a completely uninformed pov.

After my last trip to Mexico, where I made the mistake of staying in a resort apparently popular with French, I decided the most annoying noise in the world, is a kid whining, in French...and the fat, speedo laden father, trying to appease him.

Now for the good.

I'm glad the WC is over, and talk of soccer will soon be over in the US for another 4 years.

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Old 07-13-2006, 10:46 AM   #82
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Sorry for my very bad english.
Better than being forced to speak German!

(Ooohh, I felt like Alec just then.......)
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Old 07-13-2006, 10:48 AM   #83
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Better than being forced to speak German!

(Ooohh, I felt like Alec just then.......)
Dude, German rocks
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Old 07-13-2006, 10:50 AM   #84
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French give us more intel on terrorism than any other country, and they continue to be our best ally and source in this war.
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...and don't forget that big copper monument lady thing they gave us.
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It wasn't without a fight. 90,000 French soldiers were killed in the blitzkreig, and another 200,000 were seriously wounded. Most of the army was trapped in bypassed defensive positions on the Maginot line or with the British Expeditionary Force in Belgium. The British suffered about 70,000 casualties in the same conflict, before they were able to escape at Dunkirk.
Many more still surrendered without firing a shot.
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...and don't forget that big copper monument lady thing they gave us.
We had to chisel the armpit hair off before we put it up though.
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...Remember the hatred that we received by fox news and co when the france didn't follow Bush. .
Because they were taking money under the table for the food for oil program and Iraq owed them money
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We had to chisel the armpit hair off before we put it up though.
are you sure you aren't confusing them with the Italians
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Many more still surrendered without firing a shot.
So did GI's at Kasserine Pass. Your pt is that somehow one should die hopelessly to preserve honor?
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Because they were taking money under the table for the food for oil program and Iraq owed them money
And HAL isn't doing that now?
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are you sure you aren't confusing them with the Italians
You got issues with Italy you should resolve before you start pointing fingers at American bias against France.
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You got issues with Italy you should resolve before you start pointing fingers at American bias against France.
I certainly don't have any issues with Italy since I'm dating an Italian girl since 10 years now, and her bro is my best friend. I usually spent each summer in Italy with her family. It's just that the arm pit thingy is here more known to be an Italian thing than a French thing.
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Dude, German rocks
France would have more heavy metal bands.
German makes a great heavy metal dialect.

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France would have more heavy metal bands.
German makes a great heavy metal dialect.

now that is a good post
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I certainly don't have any issues with Italy since I'm dating an Italian girl since 10 years now, and her bro is my best friend. I usually spent each summer in Italy with her family. It's just that the arm pit thingy is here more known to be an Italian thing than a French thing.
10 years and she hasn't made you marry here, and you spend summer's in Italy. God I hate you from my cubicle in hell.
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To think there wasn't Nazi collaboration is naive. When the allies invaded Vichey France (southern coast area that was basically a puppet state administered by French), it wasn't sure that the French wouldn't actually fight for the Germans...they actually started to and some shots were fired, but they quickly surrendered.

This video is a dramatization of that event:

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Many more still surrendered without firing a shot.
What are you talking about? People surrender all the time in wars "without firing a shot" when the choice becomes surrender or die. They're called POWs. American soldiers surrender on occasion, too, when their situation becomes periless. The idea that the French just rolled over for Hitler is wrong. They were overwhelmed by a better army that caught them off guard.
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To think there wasn't Nazi collaboration is naive. When the allies invaded Vichey France (southern coast area that was basically a puppet state administered by French), it wasn't sure that the French wouldn't actually fight for the Germans...they actually started to and some shots were fired, but they quickly surrendered.

This video is a dramatization of that event:

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