Trent Green out indefinetly - The Orange Mane

JCMElway · 09-11-2006, 08:31 PM

Didn't see the newest info posted. Feel free to merge with other Green threads.

Chiefs' Green out indefinitely
By DOUG TUCKER, AP Sports Writer
September 11, 2006

KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) -- Trent Green sustained a "very, very severe concussion" when his head was slammed into the ground by Cincinnati's Robert Geathers and will be hospitalized at least until Tuesday, the Kansas City Chiefs said.

"He's feeling much better," Chiefs President Carl Peterson said Monday. "But he has a very king-sized headache. Hopefully he'll be able to go home tomorrow."

The two-time Pro bowl quarterback will be listed as questionable this week at Denver. Peterson said he didn't know when Green might return.

Losing Green for long could be devastating to the Chiefs. Starting at Denver will be journeyman Damon Huard, who until Sunday had not completed a pass in the NFL since Dec. 24, 2000. Behind Huard are rookies Brodie Croyle and Casey Printers, both of whom were unimpressive in the preseason.

"There's no question this will test the football team," Peterson said. "Trent Green has been a tremendous leader for us both on and off the field. We're anticipating that Trent will get through this and get well and be back with us. At this point, though, I wouldn't put any time on it."

Protected by an outstanding offensive line and surrounded by stars such as Priest Holmes and Tony Gonzalez, Green started 80 straight games from 2001-2005, while Kansas City gained more yards (30,470), scored more touchdowns (262) and rushed for more TDs (131) than any other team in the league.

Joining the Chiefs from St. Louis after surviving a career-threatening injury and undergoing four knee operations, Green passed for 20,117 yards and 111 touchdowns from 2001-2005 -- numbers exceeded only by Peyton Manning.

"It will be a day-to-day, week-to-week evaluation by the doctors," said Peterson. "Thank goodness he had no problems with his limbs."

Meanwhile, talk continued over the hit that knocked Green unconscious in the third quarter of Cincinnati's 23-10 victory.

Green, 36, one of the oldest starting quarterbacks in the NFL, was going feet-first into a hook slide right in front of the Chiefs bench. Geathers, possibly pushed from behind at least somewhat by Kansas City wide receiver Eddie Kennison, came flying in. Geathers' right shoulder slammed Green's chest and head and snapped the back of Green's head violently to the turf.

Officials did not call a foul, explaining to the enraged Chiefs sideline that Geathers' momentum had carried him into the player.

"In my opinion, I think it was a late hit. I think it was obviously a very vicious hit," Peterson said, "one that unfortunately Trent Green and the Kansas City Chiefs are paying a price for."

Peterson said he had reviewed film of the play Monday with league officials.

"They're drawing their conclusion and will make their decision later in the week," he said.

Cincinnati quarterback Carson Palmer said Monday that he had tried to call Green. When Palmer sustained a devastating knee injury last January, Green called him with advice and encouragement.

"Everything I've heard is good," Palmer said. "I heard that he regained consciousness in the locker room, and he's going to be OK."

Palmer also defended Geathers.

"Knowing Robert, he's not a guy who likes to take cheap shots or really ever does take cheap shots. He was trying to make a tackle, he kind of got (blocked) low, almost like he fell into him. When you're 280 pounds and you're falling into a quarterback, something bad's going to happen. There's nothing you can do in that situation."

Gonzalez said he didn't think it was a cheap shot. "He didn't hit him with his helmet," he added.

But Peterson, and many other Kansas City players, had a different view.

"I think the quarterback was trying to slide, which he's instructed to do. The minute he starts that, the defensive player is supposed to get off, to back off any type of hitting or touching the quarterback," he said.

Billy Clyde Puckett · 09-11-2006, 08:46 PM

He needs to call it quits before he ends up like a character in "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest"

Garcia Bronco · 09-11-2006, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Guy

He needs to call it quits before he ends up like a character in "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest"

You mean "Chief"?

LMAO

Taco John · 09-11-2006, 08:53 PM

Green needs to have more awareness of where that first down marker is. He took a risk by trying to get a few extra yards, and it cost his team.

Steve Sewell · 09-11-2006, 08:54 PM

I can't believe some people think this is even remotely funny. Sure he's a player on a rival team, but when I first saw the hit I though he was likely paralyzed. That was one of the most violent "helmet to groud" impacts that I've ever seen. Thank god that it's only a severe concussion. Hopefully he'll be able to recover without any complications.

Bob's your Information Minister · 09-11-2006, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taco John

Green needs to have more awareness of where that first down marker is. He took a risk by trying to get a few extra yards, and it cost his team.

I don't see it that way. I've got the replay on my computer and it looks to me like he takes maybe one more step before starting his slide.

RhymesayersDU · 09-11-2006, 08:58 PM

You know, as much as I hate the Chiefs, and as much as I would love from them to be without a quarterback this year, (We might take one at Arrowhead!) it always sucks when somebody is forced out of the game by injury.

Head injuries are nothing to mess with, I remember Young and Aikman having them at the end of their careers. Hopefully Trent can get healthy and make it back without any problems.

ludo21 · 09-11-2006, 09:00 PM

amen Sewell.

I hope he makes a full recovery and is back ina few weeks.

i thought for sure his neck was broke. im glad its not that serious.

theAPAOps5 · 09-11-2006, 09:01 PM

That sucks for him, concussions can have some whacky lingering effects. Hopefully he can come back from that and if not hopefully it won't effect the rest of his life.

I also read somewhere that Dick Vermeil cried.

Ok bad joke and its not the right time but it sounds like Green is going to be ok so I threw it in there.

Dedhed · 09-11-2006, 09:01 PM

Man that sucks. It won't be as much fun beating the Chiefs without Green at the helm. This may sound harsh, but I think there's a chance Trent may have taken his last snap in the NFL on Sunday. I'm not rooting for that to be the case by any means, but when you're in the twilight of your career and you sustain an injury that brutal you can start to question where your priorities lie. Football, or a life after it?

theAPAOps5 · 09-11-2006, 09:05 PM

Another thing is once you sustain a major concussion you are always apt for more and more frequently. I hope he listens to his head and not his heart if he starts to get more and more. It does make the rivalry deflate, its not the same beating a team down on their luck.

ClevelandBronco · 09-11-2006, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dedhed

Man that sucks. It won't be as much fun beating the Chiefs without Green at the helm. This may sound harsh, but I think there's a chance Trent may have taken his last snap in the NFL on Sunday. I'm not rooting for that to be the case by any means, but when you're in the twilight of your career and you sustain an injury that brutal you can start to question where your priorities lie. Football, or a life after it?

Truth there.

Kaylore · 09-11-2006, 09:59 PM

Good to hear he's going to be fine. Green's come back from worse injuries. I think he'll be back in a month at the latest.

Bob's your Information Minister · 09-11-2006, 10:08 PM

I have to say I appreciate all these comments, guys. You've shown your quality these last few days. I'll never poke fun at a Bronco injury ever again. I apologize for my crass comments a year ago.

Dr. Broncenstein · 09-11-2006, 10:17 PM

He sustained a severe concussion by all three major grading scales. He lost conciousness and had dazed senses for quite some time afterwards. Guidelines are pretty strict reguarding the return to play -- at the bare minimum is 3 weeks. Some advocate sitting out the entire season. His brain is particularly suceptible to secondary impact syndrome -- where an previously injured brain undergoes rapid uncontrolled swelling on additional (even minor) head dings.

I would be very suprised to see Trent back earlier than a month. Any additional concussions, and he will probably be done for his career. Its a shame.. that was a dirty hit. Best wishes to Trent Green. I wish him a speedy recovery.

Tombstone RJ · 09-11-2006, 10:20 PM

Green out for at least two games. The one player the chef's cannot afford to lose is Green. Well, guess what... Who's their backup QB again?

Crushaholic · 09-11-2006, 10:23 PM

He'll be out for the Denver game for sure. The Chiefs have a bye in Week 3, so we'll see what happens after that...

BroncoMan4ever · 09-12-2006, 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RhymesayersDU

You know, as much as I hate the Chiefs, and as much as I would love from them to be without a quarterback this year, (We might take one at Arrowhead!) it always sucks when somebody is forced out of the game by injury.

Head injuries are nothing to mess with, I remember Young and Aikman having them at the end of their careers. Hopefully Trent can get healthy and make it back without any problems.

I hate the Chiefs and can't stand Trent when we play against them, but i will be one of the first to stand up and say, i truly hope that he comes back healthy and as good as ever from this injury.

boltaneer · 09-12-2006, 02:08 AM

I've always liked Trent Green despite him playing on the Chiefs.

For his health, I hope he doesn't come back this year. If he comes back, he'll be taking hits all year long with that disgrace of an offensive line. Who knows how many concussions will come his way.

Crushaholic · 09-12-2006, 02:11 AM

I sincerely hope he returns to good health. As far as playing again, the guy IS 36. He might want to take this as a warning and hang it up...

Popps · 09-12-2006, 02:16 AM

Green is a Missouri guy, so I have to cut him a little break. He's actually been a fairly decent QB over the last few years, too. The Chefs certainly can't blame their woes all on him.

Hope he misses this week... returns to perfect health, but sucks the rest of the season.

elsid13 · 09-12-2006, 02:58 AM

Does anyone know if Green had problem with concussions in the past? This reminds me of the end of Akman's career. He needs to worry about his health first, before even thinking about football.

Broncoman13 · 09-12-2006, 03:23 AM

Trent came up with one of my favorite lines. While being teased about his age, he was asked about his gray hairs. He responded, "gray hairs?, oh, these... these are platinum highlights! Very hard to come by." Good stuff. Hard to say whether the hit was dirty or not. It's apparent that Geathers saw him slide and went down after him. But I also feel that he was already engaged and couldn't stop himself. Just one of those football injuries that is bound to happen sometimes. Hope Trent comes back and he'll have an excellent career in broadcasting when his playing days are over.

On a side note, Dick Vermeil was a lot easier to like last night. Interesting that he was so impressed with Luis Castillo.

OrangeShadow · 09-12-2006, 03:32 AM

His helmet hit the ground pretty violently. I hope hes able to come back healthy from it and that it doesnt linger.

Florida_Bronco · 09-12-2006, 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister

I have to say I appreciate all these comments, guys. You've shown your quality these last few days. I'll never poke fun at a Bronco injury ever again. I apologize for my crass comments a year ago.

Damn, I may have to change my opinion about you afterall.

09-11-2006, 08:31 PM	#1
JCMElway Moderate-erator Dominate! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 6,866 Adopt-a-Bronco: Oleg	Trent Green out indefinetly Didn't see the newest info posted. Feel free to merge with other Green threads. Chiefs' Green out indefinitely By DOUG TUCKER, AP Sports Writer September 11, 2006 KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) -- Trent Green sustained a "very, very severe concussion" when his head was slammed into the ground by Cincinnati's Robert Geathers and will be hospitalized at least until Tuesday, the Kansas City Chiefs said. "He's feeling much better," Chiefs President Carl Peterson said Monday. "But he has a very king-sized headache. Hopefully he'll be able to go home tomorrow." The two-time Pro bowl quarterback will be listed as questionable this week at Denver. Peterson said he didn't know when Green might return. Losing Green for long could be devastating to the Chiefs. Starting at Denver will be journeyman Damon Huard, who until Sunday had not completed a pass in the NFL since Dec. 24, 2000. Behind Huard are rookies Brodie Croyle and Casey Printers, both of whom were unimpressive in the preseason. "There's no question this will test the football team," Peterson said. "Trent Green has been a tremendous leader for us both on and off the field. We're anticipating that Trent will get through this and get well and be back with us. At this point, though, I wouldn't put any time on it." Protected by an outstanding offensive line and surrounded by stars such as Priest Holmes and Tony Gonzalez, Green started 80 straight games from 2001-2005, while Kansas City gained more yards (30,470), scored more touchdowns (262) and rushed for more TDs (131) than any other team in the league. Joining the Chiefs from St. Louis after surviving a career-threatening injury and undergoing four knee operations, Green passed for 20,117 yards and 111 touchdowns from 2001-2005 -- numbers exceeded only by Peyton Manning. "It will be a day-to-day, week-to-week evaluation by the doctors," said Peterson. "Thank goodness he had no problems with his limbs." Meanwhile, talk continued over the hit that knocked Green unconscious in the third quarter of Cincinnati's 23-10 victory. Green, 36, one of the oldest starting quarterbacks in the NFL, was going feet-first into a hook slide right in front of the Chiefs bench. Geathers, possibly pushed from behind at least somewhat by Kansas City wide receiver Eddie Kennison, came flying in. Geathers' right shoulder slammed Green's chest and head and snapped the back of Green's head violently to the turf. Officials did not call a foul, explaining to the enraged Chiefs sideline that Geathers' momentum had carried him into the player. "In my opinion, I think it was a late hit. I think it was obviously a very vicious hit," Peterson said, "one that unfortunately Trent Green and the Kansas City Chiefs are paying a price for." Peterson said he had reviewed film of the play Monday with league officials. "They're drawing their conclusion and will make their decision later in the week," he said. Cincinnati quarterback Carson Palmer said Monday that he had tried to call Green. When Palmer sustained a devastating knee injury last January, Green called him with advice and encouragement. "Everything I've heard is good," Palmer said. "I heard that he regained consciousness in the locker room, and he's going to be OK." Palmer also defended Geathers. "Knowing Robert, he's not a guy who likes to take cheap shots or really ever does take cheap shots. He was trying to make a tackle, he kind of got (blocked) low, almost like he fell into him. When you're 280 pounds and you're falling into a quarterback, something bad's going to happen. There's nothing you can do in that situation." Gonzalez said he didn't think it was a cheap shot. "He didn't hit him with his helmet," he added. But Peterson, and many other Kansas City players, had a different view. "I think the quarterback was trying to slide, which he's instructed to do. The minute he starts that, the defensive player is supposed to get off, to back off any type of hitting or touching the quarterback," he said.

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09-11-2006, 08:46 PM	#2
Billy Clyde Puckett Billy=Semi Tough Big Guy Looking down on KC, SD and Oakland Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: between 5,000 and 10,000 feet elevation Posts: 12,665 Adopt-a-Bronco: John Elway	He needs to call it quits before he ends up like a character in "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest"

09-11-2006, 08:53 PM	#4
Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,697 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	Green needs to have more awareness of where that first down marker is. He took a risk by trying to get a few extra yards, and it cost his team.

09-11-2006, 08:54 PM	#5
Steve Sewell Oh Tyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!! Patrick and Ty's pimp Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 4,666 Adopt-a-Bronco: Reggie Rivers	I can't believe some people think this is even remotely funny. Sure he's a player on a rival team, but when I first saw the hit I though he was likely paralyzed. That was one of the most violent "helmet to groud" impacts that I've ever seen. Thank god that it's only a severe concussion. Hopefully he'll be able to recover without any complications.

09-11-2006, 08:58 PM	#7
RhymesayersDU Go Broncos, Nuggets, Rox GANGNAM STYLE Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Back In The 303! Posts: 14,812 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ty Lawson	You know, as much as I hate the Chiefs, and as much as I would love from them to be without a quarterback this year, (We might take one at Arrowhead!) it always sucks when somebody is forced out of the game by injury. Head injuries are nothing to mess with, I remember Young and Aikman having them at the end of their careers. Hopefully Trent can get healthy and make it back without any problems.

09-11-2006, 09:00 PM	#8
ludo21 RIP Darrent Williams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 17,898 Adopt-a-Bronco: Paul Ernster	amen Sewell. I hope he makes a full recovery and is back ina few weeks. i thought for sure his neck was broke. im glad its not that serious.

09-11-2006, 09:01 PM	#9
theAPAOps5 A new beginning! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 26,057 Adopt-a-Bronco: Watermock - RIP	That sucks for him, concussions can have some whacky lingering effects. Hopefully he can come back from that and if not hopefully it won't effect the rest of his life. I also read somewhere that Dick Vermeil cried. Ok bad joke and its not the right time but it sounds like Green is going to be ok so I threw it in there.

09-11-2006, 09:01 PM	#10
Dedhed Ring of Famer Fare thee well Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Earth Posts: 9,702 Adopt-a-Bronco: Elvis	Man that sucks. It won't be as much fun beating the Chiefs without Green at the helm. This may sound harsh, but I think there's a chance Trent may have taken his last snap in the NFL on Sunday. I'm not rooting for that to be the case by any means, but when you're in the twilight of your career and you sustain an injury that brutal you can start to question where your priorities lie. Football, or a life after it?

09-11-2006, 09:05 PM	#11
theAPAOps5 A new beginning! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 26,057 Adopt-a-Bronco: Watermock - RIP	Another thing is once you sustain a major concussion you are always apt for more and more frequently. I hope he listens to his head and not his heart if he starts to get more and more. It does make the rivalry deflate, its not the same beating a team down on their luck.

09-11-2006, 09:59 PM	#13
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,010 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	Good to hear he's going to be fine. Green's come back from worse injuries. I think he'll be back in a month at the latest.

09-11-2006, 10:08 PM	#14
Bob's your Information Minister Chiefs > Broncos Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 25,915 Adopt-a-Bronco: CHRIS KUPER!!!	I have to say I appreciate all these comments, guys. You've shown your quality these last few days. I'll never poke fun at a Bronco injury ever again. I apologize for my crass comments a year ago.

09-11-2006, 10:17 PM	#15
Dr. Broncenstein Overdriven Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Sterile Fields Posts: 11,610 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Woodyard	He sustained a severe concussion by all three major grading scales. He lost conciousness and had dazed senses for quite some time afterwards. Guidelines are pretty strict reguarding the return to play -- at the bare minimum is 3 weeks. Some advocate sitting out the entire season. His brain is particularly suceptible to secondary impact syndrome -- where an previously injured brain undergoes rapid uncontrolled swelling on additional (even minor) head dings. I would be very suprised to see Trent back earlier than a month. Any additional concussions, and he will probably be done for his career. Its a shame.. that was a dirty hit. Best wishes to Trent Green. I wish him a speedy recovery.

09-11-2006, 10:20 PM	#16
Tombstone RJ Ring of Famer Old School Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In the Tetons! Posts: 19,274 Adopt-a-Bronco: WorrellWilliams	Green out for at least two games. The one player the chef's cannot afford to lose is Green. Well, guess what... Who's their backup QB again?

09-11-2006, 10:23 PM	#17
Crushaholic Armchair Poster Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Topeka, KS Posts: 22,039	He'll be out for the Denver game for sure. The Chiefs have a bye in Week 3, so we'll see what happens after that...

09-12-2006, 02:08 AM	#19
boltaneer 17 ATTA BABY! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: America's Finest City Posts: 4,066	I've always liked Trent Green despite him playing on the Chiefs. For his health, I hope he doesn't come back this year. If he comes back, he'll be taking hits all year long with that disgrace of an offensive line. Who knows how many concussions will come his way.

09-12-2006, 02:11 AM	#20
Crushaholic Armchair Poster Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Topeka, KS Posts: 22,039	I sincerely hope he returns to good health. As far as playing again, the guy IS 36. He might want to take this as a warning and hang it up...

09-12-2006, 02:16 AM	#21
Popps TEAM FIRST. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 29,785	Green is a Missouri guy, so I have to cut him a little break. He's actually been a fairly decent QB over the last few years, too. The Chefs certainly can't blame their woes all on him. Hope he misses this week... returns to perfect health, but sucks the rest of the season.

09-12-2006, 02:58 AM	#22
elsid13 Lost In Space Bóg, Honor, Ojczyzna Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: DC Posts: 19,080	Does anyone know if Green had problem with concussions in the past? This reminds me of the end of Akman's career. He needs to worry about his health first, before even thinking about football.

09-12-2006, 03:23 AM	#23
Broncoman13 Broncoholic JT #80 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Colorado Posts: 16,961 Adopt-a-Bronco: Orange Julius	Trent came up with one of my favorite lines. While being teased about his age, he was asked about his gray hairs. He responded, "gray hairs?, oh, these... these are platinum highlights! Very hard to come by." Good stuff. Hard to say whether the hit was dirty or not. It's apparent that Geathers saw him slide and went down after him. But I also feel that he was already engaged and couldn't stop himself. Just one of those football injuries that is bound to happen sometimes. Hope Trent comes back and he'll have an excellent career in broadcasting when his playing days are over. On a side note, Dick Vermeil was a lot easier to like last night. Interesting that he was so impressed with Luis Castillo.

09-12-2006, 03:32 AM	#24
OrangeShadow armed and dangerous Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,771	His helmet hit the ground pretty violently. I hope hes able to come back healthy from it and that it doesnt linger.