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Hopkins was only getting 2-1 in this bout in Vegas, so I didn't pull the trigger and now I'm kicking myself. I knew Tarver was going to have major problems last night. Every time a fighter takes time away from his craft to go make a movie, like Tarver did for Rocky Balboa (and other projects), he comes back and gets his ass kicked all over the ring.
It happened when Lennox Lewis went to film Ocean's 11 and then promptly got drilled by Hasim Rahman and it happened again last night. Reports are Tarver had to lose as much as 40 pounds to get down in weight for this fight. Quote:
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Gimmie that rep fool!
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I wish I had seen the fight. I was kind of worried about Hopkins moving up in weight, but looks like there was no need to worry. I'm glad Hopkins is going out with a big win. He's been one of the greats.
It kind of makes me wonder if he could control that division for a few years. As for Lewis, I wonder what else he was doing instead of training. His part in Ocean's 11, which is one of my favorite movies, Couldn't have taken more than a day to shoot. I think he just got big headed and blew off the training, and combine that with his glass jaw. |
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When I get tightassed and talk myself off a fight, sometimes that hurts more than losing. At least when you lose, you took your shot, bad handicapping, bad luck, whatever.
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****, I totally spaced that this fight was last night. Wanted to see it.
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I don't get boxing sometimes. It's a great sport, even with all it's problems. The public loves a good fight. But it seems like boxing doesn't promote itself well.
I also totally spaced that the fight was last night. I got home around 9:30 and thought to myself "I hope that fight wasn't tonight". Boxing doesn't promote itself well at all. Would any of us forget when the Super Bowl was, or any other NFL game? How many of us aren't aware that the NBA Finals game 2 is coming on tonight? We'll all know when the MLB All-Star game is. They'll start hyping it up a couple weeks before. On Monday, when we all flip on sports radio, there won't be much of a mention of this fight. Last night I flipped on ESPN, and was looking at their sports ticker on the bottom of the screen, and it had no mention of this fight. Boxing needs to step it up on the promotion end. Get the national public back. This used to be the biggest sport in the country, along with baseball. So there is a huge interest. |
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I think one of the biggest problems is that almost every damn good fight is PPV. I love boxing but it's a but riduculous when you have to pay for every fight. I mean, throw us a championship fight every now and again without having to shell out $50. Anyway, I think Hopkins has been underestimated his entire career. He's always been criticized for the fights he's taken and fights he hasan't taken but he's almost always won. He done things his way and didn't care what anyone else thought. he deserves to go out on top.
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i didnt think Hopkins would do it ..... I thought tarver had enough time to drop the wieght .................
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A lot of people talked about how Hopkins accomplished something his idol Sugar Ray Robinson falied to do. Let's keep this in perspective. Robinson was a natural welterweight (and former World champion in that weight class) who ended up dominating some of the best middleweights of all-time. Had he beaten Joey Maxim for the light heaveyweight championship it would have been one of the greatest acheivements in boxing history for a natural welterweight to become the undisputed light heaveyweight champion. And, had it not been for a heat wave, he would have pulled it off. He dominated Maxim before 110 degree weather drained him and forced him to quit on his stool before the 14th.
Nevertheless, this is still a big win for Hopkins legacy. He dominated the middleweight division for 12 years, but it was during a time when there really weren't any other great middleweights. His biggest wins were against overstuffed welterweights in De La Hoya and Trinidad. Moving up two weight classes to beat one of the best fighters in the world really solidfies his standing in boxing history. Last edited by BroncoInferno; 06-11-2006 at 11:51 AM.. |
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There are a lot of athletic HW's out there, but they all seem to be playing another sport. Plus less weight divisions and belts. Easier to keep up with the sports. |
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Its really about the governing bodies. During boxing's last Golden Age of the early to mid 80s, there was really only the WBA, and Don King and Jose Sulaiman's puppet organization, the WBC. It was when the IBF and other groups started horning in, and further fracturing the belts, that the sport really began to wane. |
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Bigger the better. And I do think there is a bit of a problem with the Weight divisions. If a man can compete in 3 or 4 weight divisions, they kind of losing their meaning of weight division. 17 divisions seem to be alittle excessive and it gets alittle ridiculous as the weight division goes down where weight differences are only like 3 or 4 pounds between divisions. |
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I think a brawler dominant as Marciano would do this sport alot of good.
A guy with an iron chin and crippling power and unparalleled tenacity. A guy who can make every fight he fights a potential fight of the year, |
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I'm glad Hopkins won. Tarvar was doing all sorts of talking before the match.
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Taylor on the other hand has finally stepped up the competition his last 5 fights, and he met his match in Hopkins with the narrow wins. I like Wright also because of his defense and the huge advantage of being a Lefty. Taylor is arguably the more talented fighter, but I'm still not completly sold on him. Wright is peaking, Taylor I think plateaued and will lose a close decision. It's gonna be a great chess match for boxing fans. |
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Glad to see Hopkins kick his butt.
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