ABC Reports: Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi Dead

[bronco_mvp_30]

Originally Posted by DBruleU

Yeah, turn your cheek to your neighbor. Jesus wasnt talking about nation against nation. He was talking about your neighbor.

Also, if Jesus was so agaisnt war, why did he instruct Isreal to go to war and defend themselves?

The easiest answer to a difficult and emotional problem is to resort to violence.

Look at a three year old. They have to be taught that the way to resolve problems is not by punching someone...

Some people never grow up.

As for " Jesus wasnt talking about nation against nation. He was talking about your neighbor."

Do you really think that an era in which information crosses the planet in the blink of an eye can be compared to neighborhoods two thousand years ago?

In today's age, nations are neighbors.

[TheDave]

Originally Posted by Requiem

So what was it today for breakfast Mock, couple cans of Steel Reserve 211?

[55CrushEm]

Originally Posted by bronco_mvp_30

Wow, very good... I think this may have been taken, almost word for word, from a Bush speech.

Well done. Way to think for yourself.

How are we "shiiiiiit on for it..."? Have you ever been outside of the USA?

First of all, I have spent most of my life working in emergency management. Katrina was FEMA's fault... The president appointed a frat brother, with no experience in emergency man agent, to lead FEMA. Their funding was slashed to a ridiculous level, and when the day came to prove that they knew what they were doing, they IGNORED advise for the country's best scientists...

And, the $$$ they should have been giving to FEMA to help prepare for an event like Katrina, was given to the "war effort" to force a way of life on to a people who DON'T WANT IT... whether you think it is superior or not.

Take a moment... Stop listening to CNN and FOX news, and think for yourself...

Christianity teaches us to turn the other cheek. That is NOT an easy thing to do. BUT it is the RIGHT THING TO DO!

I do think for myself.....that's why I'm not a Bush supporter, nor a Bush basher......you should try it sometime. You libs are funny.....you actually believe that Bush is "ultra-conservative" ......the guy isn't even CLOSE to being a true conservative. BOTH political parties have moved further and further left.....that's why every time I vote, I need to hold my nose, as I did when I voted for Bush.

Now, please explain to me how George Bush is to take all the blame for Katrina, while Ray Nagin goes clear and free?

Any you sir, should stop listening to CBS, Katie Couric, and MoveOn.org.....

[defenseman]

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

I was completely shocked to see this post. I can't even tell what to think about this. I'm flabbergasted.






You mean to tell me, there's a Charger fan?

@ Rohirrim...and of all handles, it's the "lone bolt". ...dman

[TailgateNut]

Originally Posted by 55CrushEm

I do think for myself.....that's why I'm not a Bush supporter, ............., as I did when I voted for Bush.

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[bronco_mvp_30]

Originally Posted by W*GS

Certainly you believe the US isn't superior; are all nations thus equal in moral standing? The US is no better than Myanmar, North Korea, etc.?

Explain your views a little more.

I don't know if you have spent any time outside of the USA, but if you have, then you know that different does not mean superior.

We, by this I mean Americans, are raised with patriotism in our lives. It is everywhere. In our schools, in our homes, in our churches, it is everywhere.

So, if that is the case for other countries as well, why are they inferior to us?

I do not think the people of N. Korea, etc. are inferior. They have BAD LEADERS, just like us.

Superiority does not equal higher moral standing. Christian values are a minority on this planet... Most Americans don't realize that. Christian morals are a MINORITY!

It is interesting that you immediately equated superiority to "moral standing"

[Crushaholic]

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

The Irainian government was elected in a "democratic" election.
Read the Iraqi Constitution. No law may be passed that will/would conflict with religious teachings (to be determined by religious leaders).

That's still much better than Iraq living under a dictator who had global plans beyond Iraq, as evidenced by his attempted taking of Kuwait...

[TheDave]

just wondering if it would be OK if we suspended the biblical readings as justification for war... I seem to rember the terrorists doing the same thing.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by Crushaholic

That's still much better than Iraq living under a dictator who had global plans beyond Iraq, as evidenced by his attempted taking of Kuwait...

See Iran.

[bronco_mvp_30]

Originally Posted by 55CrushEm

Any you sir, should stop listening to CBS, Katie Couric, and MoveOn.org.....

Impossible, as I have not had access to these media outlets for over 8 years...

[55CrushEm]

Originally Posted by TailgateNut

.....nice way to take things out of context, as you libs usually do, as with Ann Coulter's statements.

To quote Jay Severin....general elections have come down to voting for either a goat poop, or a dog poop sandwich.....(i.e. the lesser of 2 evils).....

So for the numbnuts, like Tailgait....that would mean that you actually CAN vote for someone without being a firm supporter of theirs.....Kerry is a hard-core liberal, and Bush is a semi-liberal......both bad, but one is worse, IMO.

[bronco_mvp_30]

Originally Posted by TheDave

just wondering if it would be OK if we suspended the biblical readings as justification for war... I seem to rember the terrorists doing the same thing.

EXCELLENT POINT!

[55CrushEm]

Originally Posted by bronco_mvp_30

Impossible, as I have not had access to these media outlets for over 8 years...

OK, I believe you.....

[DBruleU]

Originally Posted by bronco_mvp_30

The easiest answer to a difficult and emotional problem is to resort to violence.

Look at a three year old. They have to be taught that the way to resolve problems is not by punching someone...

Some people never grow up.

As for " Jesus wasnt talking about nation against nation. He was talking about your neighbor."

Do you really think that an era in which information crosses the planet in the blink of an eye can be compared to neighborhoods two thousand years ago?

In today's age, nations are neighbors.

I knew you'd say that, and my answer is still the same.

[W*GS]

Originally Posted by bronco_mvp_30

I don't know if you have spent any time outside of the USA, but if you have, then you know that different does not mean superior.

There's "different", and then there's "different".

Are you really a complete moral relativist?

Originally Posted by bronco_mvp_30

So, if that is the case for other countries as well, why are they inferior to us?

I'll let you decide if living in Myanmar is better or worse than living in the US.

What other country/countries are superior to the US? Or all countries merely different?

Originally Posted by bronco_mvp_30

Superiority does not equal higher moral standing.

What do you mean by "superiority", then?

Originally Posted by bronco_mvp_30

Christian values are a minority on this planet... Most Americans don't realize that. Christian morals are a MINORITY!

So? What does the number of believers in a given idea have to do with anything?

Originally Posted by bronco_mvp_30

It is interesting that you immediately equated superiority to "moral standing"

Substitute your own definition for "superiority", then, if you don't like mine.

[bronco_mvp_30]

Originally Posted by 55CrushEm

Now, please explain to me how George Bush is to take all the blame for Katrina, while Ray Nagin goes clear and free?

G.W. was seen on video, telling a group of scientists who were warning him of the dangers of the upcoming hurricane season, saying "We are fully prepared."

Even his good buddy Brown couldn't believe it.

What a COWBOY!

[DBruleU]

Originally Posted by TheDave

just wondering if it would be OK if we suspended the biblical readings as justification for war... I seem to rember the terrorists doing the same thing.

Um, the Bible, or the Quran?

No where in the Bible does it tell us to kill the infidel.

Same cant be said for the Quran.

[defenseman]

Originally Posted by bronco_mvp_30

EXCELLENT POINT!

I think he meant Jesus endorsed defending one's self. I'm not sure he was using it as a basis to let them fly on Iraq....but I may be wrong...dman

[bronco_mvp_30]

ABC World News:

VARGAS: When you look back on those days immediately following when Katrina struck, what moment do you think was the moment that you realized that the government was failing, especially the people of New Orleans?

BUSH: When I saw TV reporters interviewing people who were screaming for help. It looked - the scenes looked chaotic and desperate. And I realized that our government was-could have done a better job of comforting people.

[bronco_mvp_30]

ABC World News:

VARGAS: When you look back on those days immediately following when Katrina struck, what moment do you think was the moment that you realized that the government was failing, especially the people of New Orleans?

BUSH: When I saw TV reporters interviewing people who were screaming for help. It looked - the scenes looked chaotic and desperate. And I realized that our government was-could have done a better job of comforting people.

[The Lone Bolt]

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

The Irainian government was elected in a "democratic" election.

A "democratic" election in which the Mullahs routinely prevented candidates who did not support their extremist views from running? How is this "democratic"?

Read the Iraqi Constitution. No law may be passed that will/would conflict with religious teachings (to be determined by religious leaders)

The Iraqi consitution also states "No law can be passed that contradicts the principles of democracy." Does Iran's constitution have such a clause? And I just got through looking over the Iraqi constitution. Where does it state explicitly that unelected Mullahs determine which laws can be overturned on the basis of being "un-Islamic"?

[bronco_mvp_30]

Sorry for the double post...

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by DBruleU

Um, the Bible, or the Quran?
No where in the Bible does it tell us to kill the infidel.
Same cant be said for the Quran.

Depends on which Bible you're talking about.

[TheDave]

Originally Posted by DBruleU

Um, the Bible, or the Quran?

the use of either to justify violence/war is pathetic... point is, i don't disriminate between religous nuts

[bronco_mvp_30]

Originally Posted by W*GS

There's "different", and then there's "different".

Are you really a complete moral relativist?

I'll let you decide if living in Myanmar is better or worse than living in the US.

What other country/countries are superior to the US? Or all countries merely different?

What do you mean by "superiority", then?

So? What does the number of believers in a given idea have to do with anything?

Substitute your own definition for "superiority", then, if you don't like mine.

I don't define superior... thats the whole bloody point.

As much as I would like to continue this debate, work calls.

And, if I am to emulate our leader Mr. G.W., when the heat is up, and someone might be doubting my opinion or decisions, I'd better take a vacation...