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Old 06-03-2006, 03:03 AM   #1
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Default How They Stole Ohio and the GOP 4-step Recipe to 'Blackwell' the USA in 2008

This is a fact: On November 2, 2004, in the State of Ohio, 239,127 votes for President of the United States were dumped, rejected, blocked, lost and left to rot uncounted.

And not just anyone's vote. Dive into the electoral dumpster and these "spoiled" votes have a very dark color indeed.

In another life, I taught statistics. And these statistics stank: the raw data tells us that if you are a Black voter, the chance of you losing your vote to technical errors in voting machinery is 900% higher than if you were a white voter.

Any guesses as to whom those African-Americans chose for president on those junked ballots? Check Ohio's racial demographics, do the numbers, and there it is: Kerry won Ohio. And that, too, is a fact. A fact that could not get reported in the USA.

But the shoplifting of those votes in Ohio was just the tip of the theft-berg. November 2, 2004 was a national ballot-box bonfire. In total, over three million votes (3,600,380 to be exact) were cast -- marked, punched, pulled -- YET NEVER COUNTED. I'm not talking about the Ukraine or Uganda. I'm talking about the United States of America "with liberty and justice for all."

Well, not "all." The nine-to-one Black-to-White ballot spoilage rate is a national statistic -- not just an Ohio trick. Last year, I flew to New Mexico to investigate the 33,981 cast but not counted ballots of that state in the 2004 race. George Bush "won" New Mexico by 5,988 votes. Or did he? I calculated that, of all the ballots rejected and "spoiled," 89% were cast by voters of color. Who won New Mexico? Kerry won -- or he would have, if they had counted the ballots.

But they didn't count them. And that was deliberate. It's in the plan. It's the program. And the program for 2008 is simple. Two million ballots were cast but not counted in the 2000 race. (Over half, 54%, were cast by African-Americans.) In 2004, the GOP kicked it up to THREE million. Get ready, these guys aim high: "four in '06" and "five in '08" looks to be their game plan.

How will they pile up five million un-voters in 2008? Let's start with the three million "disappeared" of 2004:

Step 1: "Spoiling" ballots -- 1,389,231 of them. In the vote-count game, these are called "undervotes" and "overvotes." You can recognize these lost ballots by their hanging chads, punch cards without punches (an Ohio specialty), paper ballots eaten by scanners, and touch screens that didn't know you touched them.

Step 2: Rejecting "provisional ballots" -- 1,090,729 in this pile. Voters finding themselves at the "wrong" precinct, or wrongly "scrubbed" from voter rolls get these back-of-the-bus ballots first inaugurated in 2002. In '04, provisional ballots were passed out like candy to voters in the poorest precincts. They handed them out -- then threw them away -- one million dumped in all. In Ohio, Republican Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell changed state rules, allowing him to toss out the ballots of legal voters who cast ballots in the wrong precinct although these citizens were told their vote would count after confirming their registration.

Step 3: Not counting absentee ballots -- 526,420 of them. At least, that's what we figure from official stats. But it's anyone's guess how many mailed-in votes were dumped. (However, in one case, in Palm Beach, Florida, Jeb Bush's candidate for Elections Supervisor, Theresa LaPore, counted more absentee votes than absentee ballots mailed in. Not the brightest bulb in the vote-fix biz, that Theresa.)

Step 4: Scrub'm, Purge'm, Block'm. These are the voters who never got to vote at all. This group includes those who found their registrations were never entered on the voter rolls. In Ohio, about one-fourth of those registered by Jesse Jackson's 2004 voter drive, found their registrations delayed beyond the election date or lost.

Add to this un-voter group, those who were wrongly "scrubbed" from registries as "felons." For example, there was Bernice Kines, purged in Florida in 2004 because she was convicted of a felony on July 31, 2009. I repeat: 2009. There was something especially odd about the Ohio felon purge: ex-cons are ALLOWED to vote in that state, Mr. Blackwell.

How many lost their chance to vote by scrubbing, purging and blocking? That's anyone's guess, but one million would not be an unfair estimate -- and that's not included in the 3.6 million tally of ballots uncounted.

Was it deliberate? Oh, my God, yes. I'd like you to take a look at the "caging" lists the Republican National Committee concocted to challenge voters with "suspect" addresses. It included page after page of African-American soldiers, like one Randall Prausa, shipped overseas. Mission accomplished, Mr. President?

And there's some new tricks for these old dogs. For 2006 and 2008, the GOP is pushing new Voter ID requirements. Your signature won't be good enough anymore.

What's wrong with the new ID laws? This: In the 2004 election, 300,000 voters were turned away from the polls for "wrong" ID. For example, in the "Little Texas" counties in New Mexico, if your voter registration included a middle initial but your driver's license had none, you were kicked out of the polling station. Funny, but they only seemed to ask Hispanic voters. We should see the number of voters rejected for ID quintuple by 2008, based on the new "voting reform" laws recently passed in several states.

Also, coming to a polling station near you: more caging lists, scrub lists, ID challenge lists and more. Exactly why do you think they are compiling those "War on Terror" and War on Immigration databases? Behind the 2000 felon purge lists and behind the 2004 caging lists were databases from the same companies that now have those homeland security contracts. Are they saving us from Osama -- or from Democrats?

I wish I could give you a book on a page, because information is our weapon: Turn on the lights and the cockroaches scatter. That's why I'm asking you to read RFK's article on the "Theft of Ohio" in Rolling Stone magazine -- and GET ANGRY. Then read, Armed Madhouse: . The Scheme to Steal '08 -- AND GET READY.

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I dont doubt everything in your artical , but what I would like to see is Democrats do somthing beside bítch about it ......
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I dont doubt everything in your artical , but what I would like to see is Democrats do somthing beside bítch about it ......
What needs to be done is every vote must be backed up and recorded on paper. The republican controlled congress needs to see to this but will they?

A nationwide consensus needs to be reached on EXACTLY what is required to be a registered voter also.
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Well, your guys were incompetent enough to let us get away with whatever we want and make all you whistelblowers look like kooks! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! You will never be able to stop us!!!
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Well, your guys were incompetent enough to let us get away with whatever we want and make all you whistelblowers look like kooks!
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"Repeat a lie (i.e., that the whistleblowers are "kooks") often enough, and it will become truth."
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Well, your guys were incompetent enough to let us get away with whatever we want and make all you whistelblowers look like kooks! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! You will never be able to stop us!!!
... we didnt have to , Remember all that I will bring integrity to the oval office crap Bushtard was spewing in 2000 ... yep all a lie .......
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"Repeat a lie (i.e., that the whistleblowers are "kooks") often enough, and it will become truth."
No, what it means is, when my guy stole the election twice, and you guys whined about it, we made you look like kooks. In other words, we set you up...framed you...whatever. its still funny.
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No, what it means is, when my guy stole the election twice, and you guys whined about it, we made you look like kooks. In other words, we set you up...framed you...whatever. its still funny.
It sounds like you're proud of the fact that your guy stole two elections.

God help us.
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It sounds like you're proud of the fact that your guy stole two elections.

God help us.
And you'd be calling me a kook if your guy did the same and i didn't let it go for 5 1/2 years running.
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And you'd be calling me a kook if your guy did the same and i didn't let it go for 5 1/2 years running.
actually if a Dem did what Bush did , I would be saying the same things as I do now ..... Supporting a crook and some one like Bush isnt good for the country , it is good for Haliburton , Betchel , Exxon etc.........
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actually if a Dem did what Bush did , I would be saying the same things as I do now .....
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Supporting a crook and some one like Bush isnt good for the country , it is good for Haliburton , Betchel , Exxon etc.........
well, I still wouldnt vote for the 2 alternatives...ever.
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well, I still wouldnt vote for the 2 alternatives...ever.
Despite whats good for the country ?
take Bush he hasnt been good for this country .
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And you'd be calling me a kook if your guy did the same and i didn't let it go for 5 1/2 years running.
Call you a "kook" for calling attention to the subversion of the democratic process?

I don't think so.
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Call you a "kook" for calling attention to the subversion of the democratic process?

I don't think so.
I do...youd say "shut up, Gore won the electoral vote...its been 5 1/2 years, get over it." You wouldnt be able to bring yourself to admit that the donkey in the WH is a crook that stole an election from Bush.
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I do...youd say "shut up, Gore won the electoral vote...its been 5 1/2 years, get over it." You wouldnt be able to bring yourself to admit that the donkey in the WH is a crook that stole an election from Bush.
Must be a b*tch when conjectures like these are the only arrows you have left in your quiver.

Meanwhile, your guy - not mine - is the guy who actually stole two elections.
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Meanwhile, your guy - not mine - is the guy who actually stole two elections.
meanwhile, if you are right about the stealing of 2 elections, your 2 guys-not mine-were stupid and incomptent enough to let the guy you say is an "idiot", among other things, to steal the elections they won, fair and square, right from under them.

You say Bush is an idiot, and many other things to question his IQ, yet its like the coyote vs. the roadrunner, whenever he squares off against the dems...oh, and meanwhile while expanding his party's control in the House and Senate, which just doesn't happen most of the time.
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meanwhile, if you are right about the stealing of 2 elections, your 2 guys-not mine-were stupid and incomptent enough to let the guy you say is an "idiot", among other things, to steal the elections they won, fair and square, right from under them.

You say Bush is an idiot, and many other things to question his IQ, yet its like the coyote vs. the roadrunner, whenever he squares off against the dems...oh, and meanwhile while expanding his party's control in the House and Senate, which just doesn't happen most of the time.
. I think you have Rove and Bush confused .......they are 2 different people 1 is a mastermind @ politics , the other owns a Ranch with no cattle in Texas , I will let you decide on who is who .......
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. I think you have Rove and Bush confused .......they are 2 different people 1 is a mastermind @ politics , the other owns a Ranch with no cattle in Texas , I will let you decide on who is who .......
I'll think about it over a glass of sweet tea.
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I am enjoying a tall glass of sweet tea right now
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Why is it that this gigantic mass of voters inevitably disposed to favor Democrats can't seem to figure out how to vote legitimately?

Would LABF prefer that anyone who shows up anywhere can cast a ballot, no other requirements - even being alive?

There was one comment in the article I found most telling:

"I calculated that, of all the ballots rejected and "spoiled," 89% were cast by voters of color."

Just how does one determine the race of a voter?
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Why is it that this gigantic mass of voters inevitably disposed to favor Democrats can't seem to figure out how to vote legitimately?

Would LABF prefer that anyone who shows up anywhere can cast a ballot, no other requirements - even being alive?

There was one comment in the article I found most telling:

"I calculated that, of all the ballots rejected and "spoiled," 89% were cast by voters of color."

Just how does one determine the race of a voter?
LAFF is on one of his "Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?" rants. I'm just going to sit back and enjoy it.
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Why is it that this gigantic mass of voters inevitably disposed to favor Democrats can't seem to figure out how to vote legitimately?
Seems to be only a problem in a few areas where the "other" party is counting the votes and determining who's "legally" voting and who isn't.

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There was one comment in the article I found most telling:
"I calculated that, of all the ballots rejected and "spoiled," 89% were cast by voters of color."
Just how does one determine the race of a voter?
It's pretty obvious in most cases. Not difficult to see that people are Asian, Black, White or even Latino, etc...

But I had to explain the definition of race to you awhile back so I understand if you're struggling with this a little.
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Bush, the most hated president ever, stole both elections

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The latest polls say Americans now dislike Bush more than any other president including even Tricky Dick. It only took the public five and half year to see through him.

That said, I wonder how long it will take people to accept the news that Bush never won either election and the country is in such a mess that it will take 50 years to get back to how it was when Bush took office.

According to Robert Kennedy Jr's article in the June issue of Rolling Stone, "Republicans derided anyone who expressed doubts about Bush's victory as nut cases in 'tinfoil hats.'"

Well Republicans can call me whatever they like because this nut-case is finally going to weigh in on this subject.

Bush needed Ohio. He could not win the election without Ohio and he knew it.

So just as you might expect with the Bush gang, voter fraud was rampant in Ohio, described as "the critical battleground state that clinched Bush's victory in the Electoral College," by Mr Kennedy.

I can certainly verify that allegation. I lived in Ohio at the time and I went to vote plenty early before going to work and was there when the polls were supposed to open at 6:30 am. I ended up standing out in the rain for an hour and 45 minutes and when I got inside, voters had to track people down to explain what room or voting machine to go to.

I lived in a Democratic precinct by the way. But it was worse than that in other Democratic precincts in other parts of the state.

Some people ended up standing in line for up to 12 hours. But only those people who could miss work and go without pay for a whole day and not get fired for not showing up. And as we all know those people who could not wait in line were certainly not Republicans.

I had never seen anything like it in my life.

I knew Bush stole the election by the time the polls closed in Ohio. I knew it because in working for a major media outlet, by late afternoon I knew that all the exit polls had Kerry winning. But by the time I left work to go home, the news channels were saying "all the exit polls" are wrong. Yea right, all the exit polls were wrong.

Don't people realize how impossible that would be?

I proceeded home to watch the returns and I for sure knew that Bush stole the election the minute the news programs showed him sitting with his family pretending to be all apprehensive when his face and body language told me that he somehow knew there were no ifs about it, his second term was in the bag.

After that I went to bed knowing that the damn thief had done it again.

Its worth noting here, that there were no problems with the Republicans voting. No waiting in line for hours or anything else. Check it out on the internet by reviewing the news articles in Ohio at the time, all went well in their neighborhoods.

In a nutshell, the Bush gang expects us to believe that all the screw-ups in Ohio and elsewhere, just happened to weigh against Kerry.

Check this out. A Republican precinct, in a church no less, in Miami County, Ohio recorded a 98% percent turnout, while a Democratic polling center in inner-city Cleveland recorded only a 7% percent.

And the Republicans really pulled a fast one in Warren County, when GOP election officials fabricated a nonexistent terrorist threat to bar the media from monitoring the vote count.

But there were shenanigans going on everywhere. In what Mr Kennedy describes to "be the single most astounding fact from the election, one in every four Ohio citizens who registered to vote in 2004 showed up at the polls only to discover that they were not listed on the rolls, thanks to GOP efforts to stem the unprecedented flood of Democrats eager to cast ballots."

Before the election a New York Times analysis found that new registrations in Democratic strongholds were up 250%, compared to only 25% in strong Republican counties.

And top that off that with the outright fraud that shows that upwards of 80,000 votes for Kerry in one county were counted for Bush instead. "That alone is a swing of more than 160,000 votes," says Mr Kennedy, "enough to have put John Kerry in the White House."

A few comments on the Exit Polls from the Rolling Stone article give a clear picture of this impossibility of Bush winning and all the polls being wrong.

On the evening of the vote, Mr Kennedy says, reporters at each of the major networks were briefed by pollsters at 7:54 p.m. Kerry, they were told, had an insurmountable lead and would win by at least 309 electoral votes to Bush's 174, with 55 too close to call.

In London, Mr Kennedy says, Prime Minister Tony Blair went to bed contemplating his relationship with Kerry.

"As the last polling stations closed on the West Coast, exit polls showed Kerry ahead in ten of eleven battleground states," Mr Kennedy says, "including commanding leads in Ohio and Florida - and winning by a million and a half votes nationally."

"The exit polls," he explains, "even showed Kerry breathing down Bush's neck in supposed GOP strongholds Virginia and North Carolina."

Against these odds, experts say, the statistical likelihood of Bush winning was less than 1 change in 450,000. According to the father of modern polling, Lou Harris: "Ohio was as dirty an election as America has ever seen."

"You look at the turnout and votes in individual precincts," he told Mr Kennedy, "compared to the historic patterns in those counties, and you can tell where the discrepancies are."

"They stand out like a sore thumb," he said. And let me tell you that it did stand out but the mainstream media refused to hold the "sore thumb" up for the public to see.

So how did the Republicans explain this little matter? They said that Republicans were more reluctant than Democrats to talk to the pollster when they went to vote.

Keith Oberman was the only news person giving the election fraud story the attention that it deserved, while the mainstream press was in its usual asleep at the wheel mode, just as it has been since Bush took office.

And due to the press not broadcasting the truth, the public apparently bought that ridiculous line just like people bought the lies about weapons of mass destruction and the yellow cake uranium nuclear threat that they were spoon-fed by the press.

The Bush gang could not have pulled half of the stunts they have gotten away since 1999, had the people in the mainstream media been doing their job.
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RFK and Rolling Stone nail Ohio's stolen 2004 election, but much more must be done

At last!!!!

The story of the stolen election of 2004 has FINALLY busted into the mainstream media, thanks to Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., and Rolling Stone Magazine.

We all owe them great thanks.

Now we'll see if there's any further media follow-up. And if the Democratic Party actually DOES SOMETHING about the fact that America is about to be hijacked again in 2006, and then for the third straight presidential race in 2008.

The massive article in this week's RS focuses on the impossible contrast between exit polls showing a clear and overwhelming Kerry victory versus bogus "official" vote counts giving George W. Bush four more catastrophic years in the White House. It also details some of the horrific intimidation, manipulation and outright theft used by Ohio's GOP Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell to deny hundreds of thousands of mostly Democratic voters their right to a ballot. And it discusses in some depth the fact that Diebold and other electronic voting machine and software producers make it possible for any inside operator to use a laptop and a few keystrokes to flip an entire election in a matter of seconds.

http://www.freepress.org/departments...y/19/2006/1995
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The guy who is currently running around trying to show us that global warming is destroying the world got over it. Some people around here should follow his example and get over it, as well...
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