Official Apologizes For Saying Bush Should Be Shot Between Eyes - The Orange Mane

spdirty · 06-01-2006, 08:05 PM

Good God, would this qualify as a threat? If so, this guy should be arrested. Id imagine that the only reason he apologized is because of the crap he knew he was in after saying that. And I can't stand Schumer but i would be extremely pissed about it if I were him.

http://www.wnbc.com/politics/9306297/detail.html

Official Apologizes For Saying Bush Should Be Shot Between Eyes

POSTED: 2:27 pm EDT June 1, 2006
UPDATED: 8:53 pm EDT June 1, 2006

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NEW YORK -- State Comptroller Alan Hevesi publicly apologized Thursday for a "beyond dumb" remark about a fellow Democrat putting "a bullet between the president's eyes."

Hevesi called a mea culpa press conference hours after putting his foot in his mouth at the Queens College commencement.

"I apologize to the president of the United States" and to the fellow state politician, Sen. Charles Schumer, Hevesi said. "I am not a person of violence.

"I am apologizing as abjectly as I can. There is no excuse for it. It was beyond dumb."

At the news conference, a contrite Hevesi repeated what he recalled saying in the speech. The comptroller said he was merely trying to convey that Schumer has strength and courage to stand up to the president on major policy issues.

According to a videotape of the speech, Hevesi said:

"The man who, how do I phrase this diplomatically, who will put a bullet between the president's eyes if he could get away with it. The toughest senator, the best representative. A great, great member of the Congress of the United States."

Hevesi said he hadn't been in touch with the White House but he hoped his apology reached President Bush.

Hevesi, a longtime professor of government and politics at Queens College before becoming comptroller, also referred to his comments as "remarkably stupid" and "incredibly moronic."

"I do speak extemporaneously," he said. "And I've never said anything like this."

Schumer spokeswoman Risa Heller said the senator was satisfied with Hevesi's apology.

"Comptroller Hevesi was trying to make a point," Heller said. "He went way too far, and it was inappropriate and wrong. He has apologized to both the senator and the president, and we believe that ends the matter."

A White House spokesman did not immediately return a telephone message seeking comment Thursday. But at least one Republican seized on Hevesi's words.

"Threats against the president are no joke, and this incident raises real concerns about Alan Hevesi's fitness to hold public office," GOP Comptroller nominee J. Christopher Callaghan said during his acceptance speech at the Republican state convention in Hempstead, N.Y.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 06-01-2006, 08:35 PM

Yep - that's not something you joke around about. (Unless you're a right-winger talking about JFK or RFK, that is. Then it seems to be OK.)

Pretty dumb.

DBruleU · 06-02-2006, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

Yep - that's not something you joke around about. (Unless you're a right-winger talking about JFK or RFK, that is. Then it seems to be OK.)

Pretty dumb.

Crushaholic · 06-02-2006, 01:11 AM

Anybody else would have been arrested. However, politics is such a buddy-buddy system it makes me sick...

Atlas · 06-02-2006, 03:14 AM

I would never say that Bush should be shot between the eyes.

It might be the best thing for this country but I would never say that.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 06-02-2006, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DBruleU

What?

Are you actually trying to deny that right-wingers have celebrated and made jokes about the JFK and RFK assassinations?

defenseman · 06-02-2006, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

What?

Are you actually trying to deny that right-wingers have celebrated and made jokes about the JFK and RFK assassinations?

politicizing again are we. Ahhh, here we go on, and on, and on, and on......never stops.....you are beginning to remind me of many of our liberal newpapers and news outlets. Never stop with the rhetoric...have it your way.....fortunately, most people recognize the difference between apples and oranges.....dman

Rigs11 · 06-02-2006, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by defenseman

politicizing again are we. Ahhh, here we go on, and on, and on, and on......never stops.....you are beginning to remind me of many of our liberal newpapers and news outlets. Never stop with the rhetoric...have it your way.....fortunately, most people recognize the difference between apples and oranges.....dman

Why don't you enlighten us with the difference o wise one.

55CrushEm · 06-02-2006, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

What?

Are you actually trying to deny that right-wingers have celebrated and made jokes about the JFK and RFK assassinations?

Maybe you are correct.....I don't know......but I can honestly say that I have NEVER heard anyone "celebrate" the assassinations of either JFK or RFK.....

defenseman · 06-02-2006, 09:08 AM

By apples and oranges the thrust lies with "rhetoric" and "open discussion based on trends,real data, and well thought out answers to tough questions". Rhetoric is what it is, pretty much useless chatter designed to confuse, dismay and insinuate. True open discussion envokes thought on both sides of the table attempting to come to a well conceived answer to a tough question, all +'s and -'s put on the table. The "other" party slamming JFK and RFK, is pure rhetoric. Not useful. Designed to make one just as bad as the other. Accomplishes absolutely nothing. Does annoy most folks, UNLESS they can recognize the rhetoric. IF the goal is to make one just as bad as the other, I'm sure some folks will buy in. I prefer to continue to believe "both" sides of the fence have quality individuals who, if given the opportunity, will engage in sound , well thought out dialogue , VICE RHETORIC and FINGER POINTING, to solve some of the problems which we are now faced with. Hopefully , both sides of the fence figure it out, and get started sooner than later. The rhetoric and finger pointing is absolutely a waste of energy and time to us all....dman

Rigs11 · 06-02-2006, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by defenseman

By apples and oranges the thrust lies with "rhetoric" and "open discussion based on trends,real data, and well thought out answers to tough questions". Rhetoric is what it is, pretty much useless chatter designed to confuse, dismay and insinuate. True open discussion envokes thought on both sides of the table attempting to come to a well conceived answer to a tough question, all +'s and -'s put on the table. The "other" party slamming JFK and RFK, is pure rhetoric. Not useful. Designed to make one just as bad as the other. Accomplishes absolutely nothing. Does annoy most folks, UNLESS they can recognize the rhetoric. IF the goal is to make one just as bad as the other, I'm sure some folks will buy in. I prefer to continue to believe "both" sides of the fence have quality individuals who, if given the opportunity, will engage in sound , well thought out dialogue , VICE RHETORIC and FINGER POINTING, to solve some of the problems which we are now faced with. Hopefully , both sides of the fence figure it out, and get started sooner than later. The rhetoric and finger pointing is absolutely a waste of energy and time to us all....dman

Well said. Unfortunately with the way that this country is divided, rhetoric is commonplace. Especially in political forums.

Garcia Bronco · 06-02-2006, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 55CrushEm

Maybe you are correct.....I don't know......but I can honestly say that I have NEVER heard anyone "celebrate" the assassinations of either JFK or RFK.....

Me either.

spdirty · 06-02-2006, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Me either.

me either. I have never heard that, ever, from anyone.

Garcia Bronco · 06-02-2006, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by spdirty

me either. I have never heard that, ever, from anyone.

I mean at the end of the day....whether I agree with him or not....he's still the leader of my country. And those ****ers won't tread on me.

Old Dude · 06-02-2006, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Atlas

I would never say that Bush should be shot between the eyes.

It might be the best thing for this country but I would never say that.

If it happened, I would do my best to keep him on life support. Just think about who would succeed him by law.

defenseman · 06-02-2006, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Dude

If it happened, I would do my best to keep him on life support. Just think about who would succeed him by law.

I too am not a big fan of VP cheney...if you ever met him in person, you would find him quite personable I'm sure..dman

defenseman · 06-02-2006, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rigs11

Well said. Unfortunately with the way that this country is divided, rhetoric is commonplace. Especially in political forums.

Thanks. Just wish the elected officials would figure this stuff out. And I wish, most americans would deny "rhetoric" a forum to flourish. It truley is a waste of every americans time and tax dollars..dman

El Guapo · 06-02-2006, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 55CrushEm

Maybe you are correct.....I don't know......but I can honestly say that I have NEVER heard anyone "celebrate" the assassinations of either JFK or RFK.....

John wilkes booth is my great great great uncle. no joke.

55CrushEm · 06-02-2006, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Maverick_7

John wilkes booth is my great great great uncle. no joke.

Are you proud of him? J/K......

Actually, I believe you.....Alexander Hamilton is my great, great, great, great, great grandfather.....(5 greats).....

My sister did a 135 page genealogy report in high school....tons of research.

El Guapo · 06-02-2006, 10:23 AM

Im definitely not proud of him, but I do think its cool. ha.

DBruleU · 06-02-2006, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

What?

Are you actually trying to deny that right-wingers have celebrated and made jokes about the JFK and RFK assassinations?

I shake my head at the needless comment you make at the end of your sentence.

Although, you'll take any oppurtunity to slam a Rep.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 06-02-2006, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by defenseman

politicizing again are we. Ahhh, here we go on, and on, and on, and on......never stops.....you are beginning to remind me of many of our liberal newpapers and news outlets. Never stop with the rhetoric...have it your way.....fortunately, most people recognize the difference between apples and oranges.....dman

Right on cue: Instead of answering my question, you opt for obfuscation and "attack the messenger."

This tactic is getting almost as tired as your "let's not play the blame game" deflections whenever a new BushCo or GOP scandal comes down the pike.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 06-02-2006, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBruleU

I shake my head at the needless comment you make at the end of your sentence.

That wasn't a comment - it was a question (which you avoided.)

DBruleU · 06-02-2006, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

That wasn't a comment - it was a question (which you avoided.)

Yep - that's not something you joke around about. (Unless you're a right-winger talking about JFK or RFK, that is. Then it seems to be OK.)

That isnt a question. Thats what I was shaking my head at.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 06-02-2006, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBruleU

Yep - that's not something you joke around about. (Unless you're a right-winger talking about JFK or RFK, that is. Then it seems to be OK.)

That isnt a question. Thats what I was shaking my head at.

It wouldn't be the first time you've shaken your head at something true.

06-01-2006, 08:05 PM	#1
spdirty Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bailey Posts: 13,900 Adopt-a-Bronco: Koppen	Official Apologizes For Saying Bush Should Be Shot Between Eyes Good God, would this qualify as a threat? If so, this guy should be arrested. Id imagine that the only reason he apologized is because of the crap he knew he was in after saying that. And I can't stand Schumer but i would be extremely pissed about it if I were him. http://www.wnbc.com/politics/9306297/detail.html Official Apologizes For Saying Bush Should Be Shot Between Eyes POSTED: 2:27 pm EDT June 1, 2006 UPDATED: 8:53 pm EDT June 1, 2006 Email This Story \| Print This Story NEW YORK -- State Comptroller Alan Hevesi publicly apologized Thursday for a "beyond dumb" remark about a fellow Democrat putting "a bullet between the president's eyes." Hevesi called a mea culpa press conference hours after putting his foot in his mouth at the Queens College commencement. "I apologize to the president of the United States" and to the fellow state politician, Sen. Charles Schumer, Hevesi said. "I am not a person of violence. "I am apologizing as abjectly as I can. There is no excuse for it. It was beyond dumb." At the news conference, a contrite Hevesi repeated what he recalled saying in the speech. The comptroller said he was merely trying to convey that Schumer has strength and courage to stand up to the president on major policy issues. According to a videotape of the speech, Hevesi said: "The man who, how do I phrase this diplomatically, who will put a bullet between the president's eyes if he could get away with it. The toughest senator, the best representative. A great, great member of the Congress of the United States." Hevesi said he hadn't been in touch with the White House but he hoped his apology reached President Bush. Hevesi, a longtime professor of government and politics at Queens College before becoming comptroller, also referred to his comments as "remarkably stupid" and "incredibly moronic." "I do speak extemporaneously," he said. "And I've never said anything like this." Schumer spokeswoman Risa Heller said the senator was satisfied with Hevesi's apology. "Comptroller Hevesi was trying to make a point," Heller said. "He went way too far, and it was inappropriate and wrong. He has apologized to both the senator and the president, and we believe that ends the matter." A White House spokesman did not immediately return a telephone message seeking comment Thursday. But at least one Republican seized on Hevesi's words. "Threats against the president are no joke, and this incident raises real concerns about Alan Hevesi's fitness to hold public office," GOP Comptroller nominee J. Christopher Callaghan said during his acceptance speech at the Republican state convention in Hempstead, N.Y.

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06-01-2006, 08:35 PM	#2
L.A. BRONCOS FAN Mo' holla fo' yo' dolla! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a bunker in an undisclosed location Posts: 52,694	Yep - that's not something you joke around about. (Unless you're a right-winger talking about JFK or RFK, that is. Then it seems to be OK.) Pretty dumb.

06-02-2006, 01:11 AM	#4
Crushaholic Armchair Poster Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Topeka, KS Posts: 22,041	Anybody else would have been arrested. However, politics is such a buddy-buddy system it makes me sick...

06-02-2006, 03:14 AM	#5
Atlas Draft Defense Early&Often Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 18,526	I would never say that Bush should be shot between the eyes. It might be the best thing for this country but I would never say that.

06-02-2006, 09:08 AM	#10
defenseman Ring of Famer 2007 record pred. (7-9) Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 9,232	By apples and oranges the thrust lies with "rhetoric" and "open discussion based on trends,real data, and well thought out answers to tough questions". Rhetoric is what it is, pretty much useless chatter designed to confuse, dismay and insinuate. True open discussion envokes thought on both sides of the table attempting to come to a well conceived answer to a tough question, all +'s and -'s put on the table. The "other" party slamming JFK and RFK, is pure rhetoric. Not useful. Designed to make one just as bad as the other. Accomplishes absolutely nothing. Does annoy most folks, UNLESS they can recognize the rhetoric. IF the goal is to make one just as bad as the other, I'm sure some folks will buy in. I prefer to continue to believe "both" sides of the fence have quality individuals who, if given the opportunity, will engage in sound , well thought out dialogue , VICE RHETORIC and FINGER POINTING, to solve some of the problems which we are now faced with. Hopefully , both sides of the fence figure it out, and get started sooner than later. The rhetoric and finger pointing is absolutely a waste of energy and time to us all....dman

06-02-2006, 10:23 AM	#20
El Guapo aka mav_7. who? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: VA (heart is in TX) Posts: 3,444	Im definitely not proud of him, but I do think its cool. ha.