What kind of world do we live in?

[No1BroncoFan]

I know it's only Arena football, but what has the world come to when football of any type gets pre-empted by golf? Especially a home playoff game getting pre-empted by golf by the hosting city's local channel

It's a sad state we've come to.

Ben

[heydensmom]

I saw that...I was like oooh some arena football and was stunned to see some golfer...geez..

[Jason in LA]

It's a trip that arena football games are on network TV, while NBA conference final games, on a 3 day weekend, are all on cable.

[RhymesayersDU]

Originally Posted by Jason in LA

It's a trip that arena football games are on network TV, while NBA conference final games, on a 3 day weekend, are all on cable.

You make it sound like the NBA is dying when you say it like that. The NBA playoffs are long, and network TV can't/won't give up that much primetime real estate to them or anybody else. Hell, they wouldn't even air the NFL that much, and that's the biggest thing in the country.

The Finals will be on ABC though, in glorious HD (screw TNT).

[Jason in LA]

I gotta totally disagree with that. I don't think the NBA is dying, I think ABC is dropping the ball. I've felt their coverage has been horrible ever since they picked up the NBA. NBC used to have games on every weekend, during the regular season. They would have double hitters every weekend. There are many weekends during the regular season where ABC doesn't even air a game. Now the playoffs have rolled around and just about all the games are on ESPN or TNT. When NBC had the NBA they aired multiple weekend playoff games. NBC did a much better job with the NBA. They actually aired NBA games. ABC farms the games out.

Just about every NFL game comes on network TV. The only games that weren't on network TV were the ESPN Sunday Night games. All NFL playoff games are on network TV.

[watermock]

Well first, it's irritating the NFL has started it's own network. Sure it's kinda neat, but there is more and more monopolistic behavior to eek out every dollar. I can't get CBS that covers the Broncos because CBS locals are pricks, so Direct TV wouldn't carry CBS games unless I bought sunday ticket. Mediacom or any Cable outlet doesn't carry Sunday Ticket, even tho Murdoch owns Fox cable. Mediacom doesn't even offer NFL Network. I'm almost positive I won't get the Bronco opener.

How they let Murdoch pump up his satellite sales and ignore his own cable outlet is totally anti-trust, and the NFL is just as complicent. Hell, for broadband and just analog TV is 95 bucks a month. People that get a local feed will still get the feed but there are alot of idiotic rules. Not seeing your team on TV makes your interest wane quite honestly, and you don't go rush down to get your tickets on a budget just because you won't see your team, which isn't selling out anyway because of poor play and poor name recongition because...yep...you don't know the players very well.

Another totally idiotic NFL rule is the blackout. I've never seen a single study that has shown a significant increase on gate just because the game is blacked out. If anything, people just forget about the team and do something else. I remember a map where San Diego didn't even HAVE any game, it was freakin gray completely. Not anything. Not SD, not Oakland, not KC or Denver.

I don't need Sunday ticket, Sioux falls is in the Denver region and unless the Hornheads fall into the same time period, I usually got 12 or so Bronco games plus any playoff games. Not enought for me to pad Murdoch's monopoly rip off. Maybe Mediacom will start showing NFL Network this fall, but I'm sure it will be on only digital cable, which is another cluster and the quality isn't any better picture quality at all.

Every year they incrementally screw us between the price of a 6 dollar warm beer to tickets and especially pay per view programming from the league itself. That is also very antitrust. I have no clue what has happened to anti-trust laws, and don't blame Bush, tho he has turned a blind eye. For you youngin's, they broke up Rockefeller's Standard oil monopoly almost a century ago into 7 competitors for competition. Now we have Exxon/Mobile, two of the seven sisters price fixing and broadcast giants like Fox/DTV and ABC/ESPN doing it again. If there was a politician that had the balls to stand up against these anti-trust Godzillas, I would vote any party.

[watermock]

I'm not done ranting. Now they are trying to rob us with HDTV which will be standard in 10 years but they will milk the cow.

Even NFL.com has started making us pay just to LISTEN to games. Next year you won't even be able to watch the game stats live.

Nascar has it's "field pass" that means absolutely nothing because all races are televised, and

ESPN also has it's "insider" subscription that is about as worthwhile as a boil on a witches ass.

[RhymesayersDU]

Originally Posted by Jason in LA

I gotta totally disagree with that. I don't think the NBA is dying, I think ABC is dropping the ball. I've felt their coverage has been horrible ever since they picked up the NBA. NBC used to have games on every weekend, during the regular season. They would have double hitters every weekend. There are many weekends during the regular season where ABC doesn't even air a game. Now the playoffs have rolled around and just about all the games are on ESPN or TNT. When NBC had the NBA they aired multiple weekend playoff games. NBC did a much better job with the NBA. They actually aired NBA games. ABC farms the games out.

Just about every NFL game comes on network TV. The only games that weren't on network TV were the ESPN Sunday Night games. All NFL playoff games are on network TV.

In ABC's defense, they have had double header every Sunday since at least the SuperBowl, if not before.

All I'm saying is, I don't think it's a travesty that the NBA playoffs aren't on network TV. It's simply not feasible for these networks to show basketball every single night for a month solid. Although you are right, NBC did used to air early round playoff games.

As popular as the NFL is, if they played every single day, the majority would be on cable too. The NFL has the luxury of only playing once a week.

[watermock]

The NFL doesn't have 162 games or 78 or whatever the NBA does. Most people have cable IMO, so it it's semi-basic cable. The fact is, I can't get NFL Network on anything but DTV, and then I can't get the CBS local unless putting up an aerial for a station 90 miles away.

[Jason in LA]

Originally Posted by RhymesayersDU

In ABC's defense, they have had double header every Sunday since at least the SuperBowl, if not before.

All I'm saying is, I don't think it's a travesty that the NBA playoffs aren't on network TV. It's simply not feasible for these networks to show basketball every single night for a month solid. Although you are right, NBC did used to air early round playoff games.

As popular as the NFL is, if they played every single day, the majority would be on cable too. The NFL has the luxury of only playing once a week.

My complaint isn't with the daily coverage. I understand that the games should be on cable M-F. But on Saturdays and Sundays ABC should have double hitters.

I guess I'll have to take your word for it when you say that ABC had double hitters on Sundays. I don't remember seeing double hitters on Sundays, but I wasn't really looking for them.

If they had double hitters during the regular season, then why aren't they having them during the playoffs? In the first round, I think it was the 2nd weekend, there were a lot of games that weekend, and ABC airs only one, the Lakers vs. the Suns. There were over 10 games during the weekend. How could they only air one?

The NBA is trying to fix their image. These playoff series are taking them a very long way. The games have been very good. The NBA is missing out on a huge opportunity to get some fans back because of this poor coverage.

[RhymesayersDU]

Originally Posted by Jason in LA

My complaint isn't with the daily coverage. I understand that the games should be on cable M-F. But on Saturdays and Sundays ABC should have double hitters.

I guess I'll have to take your word for it when you say that ABC had double hitters on Sundays. I don't remember seeing double hitters on Sundays, but I wasn't really looking for them.

If they had double hitters during the regular season, then why aren't they having them during the playoffs? In the first round, I think it was the 2nd weekend, there were a lot of games that weekend, and ABC airs only one, the Lakers vs. the Suns. There were over 10 games during the weekend. How could they only air one?

The NBA is trying to fix their image. These playoff series are taking them a very long way. The games have been very good. The NBA is missing out on a huge opportunity to get some fans back because of this poor coverage.

Yeah, they've had double hitters every single Sunday, believe me, I usually wake up around 11ish hung over, and that's the first thing I turn to. Usually an East game in the morning and a west game in the afternoon.

I think this has something to do with how the TV contracts are structured. It seems like it might be an all-or-nothing deal. Meaning, TNT/ESPN wants all the games, and they don't want to have to give up great games (i.e., Game 7s) or weekend games to network TV. Just a guess though.

But I agree, these playoffs on network TV would have been gold. Ratings are way up from last year from what I hear.

[Meck77]

Originally Posted by No1BroncoFan

I know it's only Arena football, but what has the world come to when football of any type gets pre-empted by golf? Especially a home playoff game getting pre-empted by golf by the hosting city's local channel

It's a sad state we've come to.

Ben

Well if you were talking about the Crush game you didn't miss much Ben. Just got back from the loss. It was pretty painful. Everytime it looked like the momentum was changing we'd turn the freakin ball over. I don't know what was up with Dutton today. Well atleast Broncos ball is around the corner.

[No1BroncoFan]

Originally Posted by Meck77

Well if you were talking about the Crush game you didn't miss much Ben. Just got back from the loss. It was pretty painful. Everytime it looked like the momentum was changing we'd turn the freakin ball over. I don't know what was up with Dutton today. Well atleast Broncos ball is around the corner.

I agree, there wasn't much to miss, but watching the Crush lose is still better than watching golf! What the hell happened to Denver being a football town? Don't get me wrong, I like to play golf, but it's the most boring f***ing thing on TV.

Ben

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by No1BroncoFan

I know it's only Arena football, but what has the world come to when football of any type gets pre-empted by golf? Especially a home playoff game getting pre-empted by golf by the hosting city's local channel

It's a sad state we've come to.

Ben

That's whacked.

But I guess it's about par for the course (no pun intended) in today's television environment where real news and information are regularly pre-empted by the latest gossip about Paris Hilton and American Idol.