Confidence In GOP Is At New Low in Poll

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Public confidence in GOP governance has plunged to the lowest levels of the Bush presidency, with Americans saying by wide margins that they now trust Democrats more than Republicans to deal with Iraq, the economy, immigration and other issues, according to a Washington Post-ABC News poll that underscores the GOP's fragile grip on power six months before the midterm elections.

Dissatisfaction with the administration's policies in Iraq has overwhelmed other issues as the source of problems for President Bush and the Republicans. The survey suggests that pessimism about the direction of the country -- 69 percent said the nation is now off track -- and disaffection with Republicans has dramatically improved Democrats' chances to make gains in November.

Democrats are now favored to handle all 10 issues measured in the Post-ABC News poll. The survey shows a majority of the public, 56 percent, saying they would prefer to see Democrats in control of Congress after the elections.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...051601264.html

[gunns]

Wow, 56% is 11% higher than the one I posted last month.

[DBruleU]

Look's like you have '08 pretty much wrapped up, eh?

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by DBruleU

Look's like you have '08 pretty much wrapped up, eh?

Never fear - you'll still have your "secret weapon" to fall back on.

[DBruleU]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

Never fear - you'll still have your "secret weapon" to fall back on.

True.

That will at least keep you busy after the elections.

[fdf]

Originally Posted by DBruleU

Look's like you have '08 pretty much wrapped up, eh?

The reason the polls are so low is that conservatives are deeply discouraged at the performance of the Republicans in the white house and in congress over a number of issues--immigration and runaway spending probably being the top two annoyances.

We have controlled the government for four years now and the Republican congress is spending like, well, a bunch of democrats. That's not why we elected them. Republicans have consolidated power at the federal level at the expense of the states like, well, democrats. Republicans have pushed out new entitlement programs like, well, democrats.

What's especially discouraging is that there's no useful alternative. If you punish the Republicans by electing dems, they too will spend like democrats and their priorities on a lot of important spending items (like having a military) are way off. And, they will raise taxes to boot, surrender in the WOT, and appoint horrible judges like Ruth Ginsberg and Stephen Breyer to the Supremes. So there's really no viable alternative for the 40-45% of the population that is conservative. At this point, the republicans get the conservative vote because they suck a just little less than the dems.

It feels right now that the entire governing process is completely out of control in the US and that we really aren't being represented by our elected officials, even though they are supposed to be the good guys.

So Bush's numbers amongst conservatives have plummeted and that is what has driven the polls down. The unrelenting media blitz against W has also, of course, contributed.

The question for 2008 is, are the conservatives upset enough to stay home on election day and turn the wheel over to the angry moonbats in the middle of a war. I suspect not but it could happen--that's how Clinton got elected with about 42% of the vote in 1992 when conservatives read W's dad's lips and stayed home. Immigration could well turn out to be the 2008 equivalent of W's dad raising taxes.

If it's McCain, a lot of conservatives will almost certainly stay home and we may witness the beginning of a dramatic party realignment in America--all the seeds are there when 40-45% of the population realizes that neither party represents their interests.

I'm not sure how that realignment will turn out--the left might just eke out some victories while it's happening. But the only effect of that in the long run is that it will remind the voters again why the left needs to be kept in a little, locked 'angry box' in Ward Churchill's desk and never allowed close to the levers of power.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by fdf

But the only effect of that in the long run is that it will remind the voters again why the left needs to be kept in a little, locked 'angry box' in Ward Churchill's desk and never allowed close to the levers of power.

Riiiiiiight, Rush.

We wouldn't want to allow the Dems to get too "close to the levers of power" - we might end up with horrible things like balanced budgets, sane foreign policy, smaller government, and another one of those awful economic expansion things - just like last the time!

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Democrats are now favored to handle all 10 issues measured in the Post-ABC News poll. The survey shows a majority of the public, 56 percent, saying they would prefer to see Democrats in control of Congress after the elections.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...051601264.html

All I can say is: Thank God people like fdf are the minority.

[spdirty]

Originally Posted by fdf

The reason the polls are so low is that conservatives are deeply discouraged at the performance of the Republicans in the white house and in congress over a number of issues--immigration and runaway spending probably being the top two annoyances.

We have controlled the government for four years now and the Republican congress is spending like, well, a bunch of democrats. That's not why we elected them. Republicans have consolidated power at the federal level at the expense of the states like, well, democrats. Republicans have pushed out new entitlement programs like, well, democrats.

What's especially discouraging is that there's no useful alternative. If you punish the Republicans by electing dems, they too will spend like democrats and their priorities on a lot of important spending items (like having a military) are way off. And, they will raise taxes to boot, surrender in the WOT, and appoint horrible judges like Ruth Ginsberg and Stephen Breyer to the Supremes. So there's really no viable alternative for the 40-45% of the population that is conservative. At this point, the republicans get the conservative vote because they suck a just little less than the dems.

It feels right now that the entire governing process is completely out of control in the US and that we really aren't being represented by our elected officials, even though they are supposed to be the good guys.

So Bush's numbers amongst conservatives have plummeted and that is what has driven the polls down. The unrelenting media blitz against W has also, of course, contributed.

The question for 2008 is, are the conservatives upset enough to stay home on election day and turn the wheel over to the angry moonbats in the middle of a war. I suspect not but it could happen--that's how Clinton got elected with about 42% of the vote in 1992 when conservatives read W's dad's lips and stayed home. Immigration could well turn out to be the 2008 equivalent of W's dad raising taxes.

If it's McCain, a lot of conservatives will almost certainly stay home and we may witness the beginning of a dramatic party realignment in America--all the seeds are there when 40-45% of the population realizes that neither party represents their interests.

I'm not sure how that realignment will turn out--the left might just eke out some victories while it's happening. But the only effect of that in the long run is that it will remind the voters again why the left needs to be kept in a little, locked 'angry box' in Ward Churchill's desk and never allowed close to the levers of power.

I couldnt agree more. That was right on the money. But where in the hell do we turn?? I mean conservatives have busted their asses for decades trying to get where we are...all 3 Branches of Government. And theyre gonna just blow it up. I don't know man, but we have absolutely got to make the point to these bums who don't give a damn about the ideology they pretend to represent that they will not be in office any longer if they keep pulling this crap. Im telling you, the GOP keeps screwing around, I wouldn't be surprised if the donkeys took the house and senate back and here come impeachment proceedings, 1 or 2 years before President Bush is out of office. (yeah, I know, we did it to Clinton).

God, you know its getting bad when even Rush, the eternal optimist, thinks this next election cycle might be a nightmare.

[spdirty]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

Riiiiiiight, Rush.

We wouldn't want to allow the Dems to get too "close to the levers of power" - we might end up with horrible things like balanced budgets, sane foreign policy, smaller government, and another one of those awful economic expansion things - just like last the time!

Your in favor of smaller government? Wow. Cool.

[ClevelandBronco]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

Democrats are now favored to handle all 10 issues measured in the Post-ABC News poll. The survey shows a majority of the public, 56 percent, saying they would prefer to see Democrats in control of Congress after the elections.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...051601264.html

All I can say is: Thank God people like fdf are the minority.

Rest assured, LAFF, we're still a huge voting bloc, even though we're not a majority.

The pitiful performance of the politicians we've voted for hasn't changed who we are. We exist independently of the Bush Administration. Even your candidate will have to deal with us, even while he (she) denies that he (she) has anything to do with your socialist workers bull****.

[ClevelandBronco]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

All I can say is: Thank God people like fdf are the minority.

And I thank God (by the way, I'm thanking God the Father, Jesus the Son and the Holy Spirit within us — I have no idea what God you might imagine yourself thanking, but that is mine) that you even show up here.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

Rest assured, LAFF, we're still a huge voting bloc, even though we're not a majority.

Huge?

Terri Schiavo exposed your actual size.

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

And I thank God (by the way, I'm thanking God the Father, Jesus the Son and the Holy Spirit within us — I have no idea what God you might imagine yourself thanking, but that is mine) that you even show up here.

[ClevelandBronco]

Try to name a bigger voting bloc.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

Try to name a bigger voting bloc.

However big a bloc it may be, it's not big enough...

Democrats are now favored to handle all 10 issues measured in the Post-ABC News poll. The survey shows a majority of the public, 56 percent, saying they would prefer to see Democrats in control of Congress after the elections.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...051601264.html

[ClevelandBronco]

Keep the "faith."

[fdf]

Originally Posted by spdirty

Your in favor of smaller government? Wow. Cool.

I get a kick out of lefties trying to take credit for Newt Gingrich's accomplishments. Those were the days, huh? When a Republican congress actually acted like Republicans.

[Blueflame]

Originally Posted by spdirty

I couldnt agree more. That was right on the money. But where in the hell do we turn?? I mean conservatives have bust their asses for decades trying to get where we are...all 3 houses of Congress. And theyre gonna just blow it up. I don't know man, but we have absolutely got to make the point to these bums who don't give a damn about the ideology they pretend to represent that they will not be in office any longer if they keep pulling this crap. Im telling you, the GOP keeps screwing around, I wouldn't be surprised if the donkeys took the house and senate back and here come impeachment proceedings, 1 or 2 years before President Bush is out of office. (yeah, I know, we did it to Clinton).

God, you know its getting bad when even Rush, the eternal optimist, thinks this next election cycle might be a nightmare.

Um, I think you meant "all 3 branches of government and not "all 3 houses of Congress"...

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by fdf

I get a kick out of lefties trying to take credit for Newt Gingrich's accomplishments. Those were the days, huh? When a Republican congress actually acted like Republicans.

Either you have a really short memory or you just have a penchant for revisionist history.

Almost every positive thing Clinton accomplished in the 90s - from deficit reduction right on down the line - was opposed by Newt and the rest of the GOP zipper hunters.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

Keep the "faith."

Apparently, my "faith" has outlived your "faith" that Team Bush/Exxon actually shares your values or represents your interests.

[spdirty]

Screw it...we just need to do the unhinkable and nominate Tancredo in '08. BTW, has a Congressman ever gotten a major party nomination before??

[bendog]

Why do people assume that a dem congress and someone like Richardson or Warner would spend more than bush? And bush hasn't exactly made the military stronger. If we had the army he got handed off from clinton, we'd have leverage with Iran.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by bendog

Why do people assume that a dem congress and someone like Richardson or Warner would spend more than bush? And bush hasn't exactly made the military stronger. If we had the army he got handed off from clinton, we'd have leverage with Iran.

Bingo.

And now, thanks to Bush's abuses of power and gross mismanagement, the only way we're going to build that sort of army again is by reinstating the draft.

Wonder how popular AWOL Boy's wars of choice would be with his supporters if that happened?

[W*GS]

Yet, despite all the GOP screwups, the Democrats have yet to make any sense.

Not surprising, considering that LABF is one of their intellectual giants.

[W*GS]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

And now, thanks to Bush's abuses of power and gross mismanagement, the only way we're going to build that sort of army again is by reinstating the draft.

Doesn't your brain work at all unless prompted by far-left talking points and BS?