PFT loathes the Broncos

[watermock]

This is over the top, even for this hate monger. Acting like he can't understand why Kevlar Koach hasn't been fired! Christ, we were one game from being favored in the SuperBowl! Unreal.

Then he has the audacity to act like the Walker deal is doome to...well just read this idot. I don't know when Mike pissed in his Wheaties, but the guy has an axe to grind.

BRONCOS WON'T HESITATE TO DUMP JAVON

Although the agent for receiver Javon Walker believes that his client's 2007 payday of $10 million is protected by the fact that the Broncos shipped a second-round pick to Green Bay in order to acquire Walker's services, multiple league insiders are convinced that Denver coach Mike Shanahan won't think twice about dumping Walker if his performance, attitude, or any other factor suggests that Javon isn't worthy of the big-money portion of his new contract.

The Broncos signed Walker to a contract that will pay him $25 million over three years. Starting in year two. None of the payments are guaranteed, and Denver can dump him without consequence after the 2006 season, during which Walker will receive only $2.15 million.

Walker's agent, Kennard McGuire, believes that the lost second-rounder will be enough to dissuade the Broncos from cutting the cord. But these are the Broncos we're talking about. Coach Kevlar and company have squandered plenty of draft picks over the years, and Coack K is no closer to being on the hot seat today than he was when he won back-to-back Lombardis in the 1990s.

Just last year, Shanahan spent a third-round pick for Maurice Clarett. Since Clarett insisted on getting no signing bonus, preferring instead an incentive-laden deal, the Broncos were able to dump him without taking a cap hit. They did so, regardless of the fact that they were conceding that they'd blown a three.

Heck, Shanahan has pissed away plenty of first-round picks, and he's still standing. He drafted receiver Marcus Nash in 1998, and traded him for another stiff a year later. In 2000 and 2001, the Broncos selected Deltha O'Neal and Willie Middlebrooks, respectively, in round one. Both were later traded out of town for a bag of moldy peanuts and a block of lukewarm cheese.

Shanahan's record with drafting receivers on the first day of the draft isn't much better: Nash, Travis McGriff, Chris Cole, Ashley Lelie, and Darius Watts.

"He'll gladly give up a second-round pick for a guy that can play one year," said one league insider.

With quarterback Jake Plummer entering possibly the last year of his tenure as starter and No. 1 wideout Rod Smith on the tail end of his career, Shanahan is going for his third Super Bowl title right now -- and he'll worry about 2007 when 2007 gets here.

We're not saying that the Broncos have merely rented Walker for one season with no intention of keeping him. If he plays like a guy who deserves $25 million over three years in 2006, he'll get it.

But if he doesn't, he won't. And no one else will give it to him, either.

The other benefit that the Broncos have acquired is exclusive negotiating rights with Walker, in the event that it's obvious after the season that he doesn't deserve $25 million over three years. At that point, Walker and McGuire might decide that what the Broncos are offering by way of an adjustment to his contract is better than what Walker would get elsewhere.

Bottom line -- the "investment" of a second-round pick means squat to Shanahan, and Walker is in reality no closer to that huge payday now than he was with the Packers.

He's still got to earn it on the field in 2006.

What a prick. It's a great contract actually. We just pushed the signing bonus back to see if he comes back to form. We can't lose, and who says we don't value our picks? We've had busts, but so do other teams.

[Spider]

Originally Posted by watermock

What a prick. It's a great contract actually. We just pushed the signing bonus back to see if he comes back to form. We can't lose, and who says we don't value our picks? We've had busts, but so do other teams.

well mock just goes to show you dont have to have aclue to write a sports artical , just be a dumb áss that sells also ..........

[Garcia Bronco]

Lol.

[Ballhawk]

I don't know. What if Watts, Terrell and Marshall all play at a very high level? Do you pay Walker or go after another big time FA or 2. I don't think saying Shanny would not hesitate to drop JW is so farfetched but it is not what Shanny has planned.

[Tombstone RJ]

Sounds like the guy who wrote the article is pissed that Shanny just gave up a second round pick for a pro-bowl caliber WR, yet, Shanny can cut the cord after the first year.

Hmmm. Its PFW, so they don't like it. Which means its a hella deal for the Broncos!

[youcandoit1687]

Originally Posted by Ballhawk

I don't know. What if Watts, Terrell and Marshall all play at a very high level? Do you pay Walker or go after another big time FA or 2. I don't think saying Shanny would not hesitate to drop JW is so farfetched but it is not what Shanny has planned.

big IFs, nice IFs, but very big and besides marshall, most likely not going to happen if they havent already happened. it would be wonderful if they did. i wouldnt be surprised if we shopped javon, depending on his and our season. the WR draft next year should be very very deep so it will be interesting without a doubt

[RMT]

the PFT folks are a bunch of pathetic losers. They brag about having "inside sources" everywhere and then end up being right about 30% of the time on their stuff. Then they sweep the other 70% under the rug or blame it on their "source."

[2KBack]

Originally Posted by RMT

the PFT folks are bunch of pathetic losers. They brag about having "inside sources" everywhere and then end up being right about 30% of the time on their stuff. Then they sweep the other 70% under the rug or blame it on their "source."

Yeah, how easy is it to write a quote and then put "says a league insider" on the end.

[footstepsfrom#27]

It isn't so much what he's saying as it is how he's saying it. He obviously doesn't like Denver or Shanahan, but he makes some points we've made in here also, without realizing it. He calls it being a Kevlar Coach. I call it having a smart owner who realizes the benefits of offering long term stability to a coach with a .666 winning percentage and a couple of Lombardis on the mantle rather than fostering a culture of uncertainty. He calls it pissing away high draft picks. I call it taking calculated risks and gambling on the greater rewards offered by higher potential athletes with more question marks while also having the guts to cut your losses early rather than stay with a mistake. Bottom line....Walker will perform or he'll be out the door just like any other player.

What's wrong with that? Nothing. That's how it should be.

[watermock]

Nothing, but he acts like he's allready a bust and will be released. He won't bust unless he reinjures the knee or some other major issue. It's just a delayed option bonus that will be converted to a signing bonus. If he fails, then we lose a second, but at least he's a proven reciever so the risks are lower than any draft pick except possibly Cutler, who I consider can't miss honestly.

4 teams out of 32 made it the conference title games and he acts like Bowlen has his nose up Mike's bunghole. Just like Bailey's contract, it won't look outrageous in a few years. Your right, he makes some points but throws in the same old insults and doesn't mention the 13-3 record last year. Sure, we were dissapointed, but so were 30 other teams. Losing the SB is dissapointing but still a great season that came short. We came short but had an excellent season. I sure would like to know what team this guy likes.

I read his stuff and I would dissagree he's wrong 70 percent of the time. He scours alot of newspapers and it's more insider than ESPN insider honesty and it's free. For the 100th time, it's a RUMOR MILL with links to internet articles. My beef is his incredible hostility toward Shanahan. It's almost comical.

[Ballhawk]

Originally Posted by youcandoit1687

big IFs, nice IFs, but very big and besides marshall, most likely not going to happen if they havent already happened. it would be wonderful if they did. i wouldnt be surprised if we shopped javon, depending on his and our season. the WR draft next year should be very very deep so it will be interesting without a doubt

Too many ifs is right, but was just keeping in spirit of the rant by PFW. JW will be here in 2007 and beyond unless he is much less than he was pre-injury.

[Kaylore]

Boy, he must be a Chiefs fan to hate Shanahan so much. That's the only possible explanation for the LABF-like vitriol that is spewed about our team from PFT.

[MechanicalBull]

Did he write the same thing about Brees? Cause correct me if I'm wrong but NO has the option to get rid of him after this season. I take all internet articles with a grain of salt cause most of these writers don't have first hand knowledge and they just take bits and pieces of other articles and write hearsay.

[-Slap-]

Buried under all the snarkiness is plain common sense. Shanahan was smart to protect the cap in case Javon's rehab doesn't come off just right.

We're not saying that the Broncos have merely rented Walker for one season with no intention of keeping him. If he plays like a guy who deserves $25 million over three years in 2006, he'll get it.

But if he doesn't, he won't. And no one else will give it to him, either.

The other benefit that the Broncos have acquired is exclusive negotiating rights with Walker, in the event that it's obvious after the season that he doesn't deserve $25 million over three years. At that point, Walker and McGuire might decide that what the Broncos are offering by way of an adjustment to his contract is better than what Walker would get elsewhere.

[fdf]

Originally Posted by -Slap-

Buried under all the snarkiness is plain common sense. Shanahan was smart to protect the cap in case Javon's rehab doesn't come off just right.

That was my only worry about the deal--that we would revisit Carter or IHOP or Pittman and get ourselves into a big cap hit contract with a primadonna that goes all dramatic on us.

Even if all he costs us is a second rounder and 2.15 million and he busts, he is a worthwhile risk. The upside is huge. But there is no cap downside. Effectively, we traded one big risk (an untested second rounder) for another big risk (an injured guy who shows some tendencies toward primadonna but who is hugely talented and has proven it on the field).

Good move by the FO.

[Kaylore]

Shanahan has said that he doesn't want to push the guy. It's not like we're trying to use him like kleenex or want him to fail. I don't even get what the point of the article is. It's almost like he's looking for an excuse to rip Shanahan and was pissed that everyone was praising his moves this year.

[Hulamau]

Originally Posted by watermock

This is over the top, even for this hate monger. Acting like he can't understand why Kevlar Koach hasn't been fired! Christ, we were one game from being favored in the SuperBowl! Unreal.

Then he has the audacity to act like the Walker deal is doome to...well just read this idot. I don't know when Mike pissed in his Wheaties, but the guy has an axe to grind.



What a prick. It's a great contract actually. We just pushed the signing bonus back to see if he comes back to form. We can't lose, and who says we don't value our picks? We've had busts, but so do other teams.

Actually everything the guy said was pretty much a fact. And I would interpret it not as a slam on Shanahan, but proof he can roll with the inevitable punches that NFL personnel management brings.

What would really be dumb would have been to give Walker $40 mil guaranteed up front when we have no idea if hes going to be half the guy he was in Green Bay. His attitude in GB wasnt the greatest either and the excuses he gave in his interview last week for dumping his rookie deal with GB are no better than Lelies, in fact worse.

He said it was as much because unspecified other players there gave him bad vibes and were jealous of him so he didnt feel like playing with the club anymore ...etc.

Hey, I'm all for Walker being the next Jerry Rice if he can pull it off, but if he does a Marcus Nash on us I'll be DAMN glad we can dump him next year for a lot less pain than otherwise would be the case.

Giving him a pile of money if he's not getting it done just to save some sort of face would be the height of lunacy.

[watermock]

Originally Posted by -Slap-

Buried under all the snarkiness is plain common sense. Shanahan was smart to protect the cap in case Javon's rehab doesn't come off just right.

If he could of spun it more negatively, he would of. He doesn't compliment Shanahan at all for being clever. No matter, it's nothing to get worked up about, he just has a history of seething against Shanahan.

[HEAV]

[QUOTE=Kaylore]Boy, he must be a Chiefs fan to hate Shanahan so much. That's the only possible explanation for the LABF-like vitriol that is spewed about our team from PFT.[/QUOTE

No he's a die hard Steeler fan. Also he's not a real sports writer. The owner of the site is a lawyer from Morgantown West Virgina.

He's made a fool out of himself at Steeler camp and the locker room one to many times.

Yes he's a tool.

As for the story it's a opinion piece more than anything.

[baja]

Funny thing is all the points he spins as negative are actually good smart contract considerations by the Bronco FO.

[RMT]

Originally Posted by watermock

Nothing, but he acts like he's allready a bust and will be released. He won't bust unless he reinjures the knee or some other major issue. It's just a delayed option bonus that will be converted to a signing bonus. If he fails, then we lose a second, but at least he's a proven reciever so the risks are lower than any draft pick except possibly Cutler, who I consider can't miss honestly.

4 teams out of 32 made it the conference title games and he acts like Bowlen has his nose up Mike's bunghole. Just like Bailey's contract, it won't look outrageous in a few years. Your right, he makes some points but throws in the same old insults and doesn't mention the 13-3 record last year. Sure, we were dissapointed, but so were 30 other teams. Losing the SB is dissapointing but still a great season that came short. We came short but had an excellent season. I sure would like to know what team this guy likes.

I read his stuff and I would dissagree he's wrong 70 percent of the time. He scours alot of newspapers and it's more insider than ESPN insider honesty and it's free. For the 100th time, it's a RUMOR MILL with links to internet articles. My beef is his incredible hostility toward Shanahan. It's almost comical.

According to my "sources," Mock, PFT is wrong "70% of the time." Of course, that is an exaggeration. Blame it on my sources

[ludo21]

IMO, everything he said is pretty much true.

If Marshall/Devoe/Watts/Adams/Hixon step up and show they can take over, i can also see Shanny letting Javon go.

[Man-Goblin]

Originally Posted by ludo21

IMO, everything he said is pretty much true.

If Marshall/Devoe/Watts/Adams/Hixon step up and show they can take over, i can also see Shanny letting Javon go.

I agree. I don't see anything inaccurate in this article regarding Walker's future *edit, but rehashing the past draft mistakes is getting very, very stale. It has absolutely nothing to do with the Walker deal, unless he's somehow trying to prove that Shanny doesnt care about the draft or draft picks. I mean, how bogus is that?

Name me a team that hasn't had draft busts? It's inherent to the whole process.

[watermock]

I'm actually happy for "The Spitter" in Pittsburg altho it was at our expense. There is a reason Cowher and Shanahan are the longest tenured coaches. As far as If Marshall/Devoe/Watts/Adams/Hixon step up and show they can take over...

With what rationale? We have a cupboard of picks, but Watts has to start catching balls in real games, Devoe will always be a STeamer. The only one I see that might have an immediate impact is Marshall.

[Taco John]

Coach Kevlar? Bullet proof? The dumbass cant even keep his metaphors straight... He used to call him Coach Teflon.