Draft Gore ?

[Spider]

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Friday, May 12, 2006

Draft Gore?

I imagine that many of you are wondering why I would place a link to Draft Gore 2008 in my sidebar. After all, he believes what scientists say about global warming while rejecting Rush Limbaugh's faith-based and Exxon-Mobil's tobacco-institute-style research on the subject; he thinks the Constitution is more important than Our Leader's quest for absolute power; and he was the first major politician to endorse Howard Dean for president and to call the Chosen One a criminal.

We can't have someone like that as our president. That's why I've decided to support Draft Gore 2008. I'm hoping that once Gore is confronted with the prospect of being drafted, he'll do the right thing--he'll do what Our Leader, Our Deputy Leader, and their patriotic sycophants in Congress did when they faced the draft: get a bunch of deferments or join the National Guard and then go AWOL.

Think about it. Do you really want a President who says things like this:

A president who breaks the law is a threat to the very structure of our government. Our Founding Fathers were adamant that they had established a government of laws and not men. They recognized that the structure of government they had enshrined in our Constitution - our system of checks and balances - was designed with a central purpose of ensuring that it would govern through the rule of law. As John Adams said: "The executive shall never exercise the legislative and judicial powers, or either of them, to the end that it may be a government of laws and not of men."

An executive who arrogates to himself the power to ignore the legitimate legislative directives of the Congress or to act free of the check of the judiciary becomes the central threat that the Founders sought to nullify in the Constitution - an all-powerful executive too reminiscent of the King from whom they had broken free. In the words of James Madison, "the accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, self-appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny."


Or this:

Here is the pattern that I see: the President's mishandling of and selective use of the best evidence available on the threat posed by Iraq is pretty much the same as the way he intentionally distorted the best available evidence on climate change, and rejected the best available evidence on the threat posed to America's economy by his tax and budget proposals.

In each case, the President seems to have been pursuing policies chosen in advance of the facts -- policies designed to benefit friends and supporters -- and has used tactics that deprived the American people of any opportunity to effectively subject his arguments to the kind of informed scrutiny that is essential in our system of checks and balances.

The administration has developed a highly effective propaganda machine to imbed in the public mind mythologies that grow out of the one central doctrine that all of the special interests agree on, which -- in its purest form -- is that government is very bad and should be done away with as much as possible -- except the parts of it that redirect money through big contracts to industries that have won their way into the inner circle.

For the same reasons they push the impression that government is bad, they also promote the myth that there really is no such thing as the public interest. What's important to them is private interests. And what they really mean is that those who have a lot of wealth should be left alone, rather than be called upon to reinvest in society through taxes.

Perhaps the biggest false impression of all lies in the hidden social objectives of this Administration that are advertised with the phrase "compassionate conservatism" -- which they claim is a new departure with substantive meaning. But in reality, to be compassionate is meaningless, if compassion is limited to the mere awareness of the suffering of others. The test of compassion is action. What the administration offers with one hand is the rhetoric of compassion; what it takes away with the other hand are the financial resources necessary to make compassion something more than an empty and fading impression.

Maybe one reason that false impressions have a played a bigger role than they should is that both Congress and the news media have been less vigilant and exacting than they should have been in the way they have tried to hold the Administration accountable.

Whenever both houses of Congress are controlled by the President's party, there is a danger of passivity and a temptation for the legislative branch to abdicate its constitutional role. If the party in question is unusually fierce in demanding ideological uniformity and obedience, then this problem can become even worse and prevent the Congress from properly exercising oversight. Under these circumstances, the majority party in the Congress has a special obligation to the people to permit full Congressional inquiry and oversight rather than to constantly frustrate and prevent it.

[...]

The administration hastened from the beginning to persuade us that defending America against terror cannot be done without seriously abridging the protections of the Constitution for American citizens, up to and including an asserted right to place them in a form of limbo totally beyond the authority of our courts. And that view is both wrong and fundamentally un-American.

But the most urgent need for new oversight of the Executive Branch and the restoration of checks and balances is in the realm of our security, where the Administration is asking that we accept a whole cluster of new myths:

For example, the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty was an effort to strike a bargain between states possessing nuclear weapons and all others who had pledged to refrain from developing them. This administration has rejected it and now, incredibly, wants to embark on a new program to build a brand new generation of smaller (and it hopes, more usable) nuclear bombs. In my opinion, this would be true madness -- and the point of no return to the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty -- even as we and our allies are trying to prevent a nuclear testing breakout by North Korea and Iran.

Similarly, the Kyoto treaty is an historic effort to strike a grand bargain between free-market capitalism and the protection of the global environment, now gravely threatened by rapidly accelerating warming of the Earth's atmosphere and the consequent disruption of climate patterns that have persisted throughout the entire history of civilization as we know it. This administration has tried to protect the oil and coal industries from any restrictions at all -- though Kyoto may become legally effective for global relations even without U.S. participation.

Ironically, the principal cause of global warming is our civilization's addiction to burning massive quantities carbon-based fuels, including principally oil -- the most important source of which is the Persian Gulf, where our soldiers have been sent for the second war in a dozen years -- at least partly to ensure our continued access to oil.

We need to face the fact that our dangerous and unsustainable consumption of oil from a highly unstable part of the world is similar in its consequences to all other addictions. As it becomes worse, the consequences get more severe and you have to pay the dealer more.

And by now, it is obvious to most Americans that we have had one too many wars in the Persian Gulf and that we need an urgent effort to develop environmentally sustainable substitutes for fossil fuels and a truly international effort to stabilize the Persian Gulf and rebuild Iraq.

Al Gore must be stopped! That's why I'm asking you to join me in supporting Draft Gore 2008

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

[spdirty]

That loser needs to first realize that there is no Manbearpig before he could think about running for president for the sole purpose of getting attention.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by spdirty

That loser needs to first realize that there is no Manbearpig before he could think about running for president for the sole purpose of getting attention.

Really, we ALL are the losers because of the people who voted for Bush.
A Bush backer calling Gore a loser is classic!

[spdirty]

Did he lose? Will he ever get over it?

[DBruleU]

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

Really, we ALL are the losers because of the people who voted for Bush.
A Bush backer calling Gore a loser is classic!

According to a Gore backer.

Vice versa from me buddy.

He lost, he cried, and now it's time to move on, and get over it.

Gore is a pethetic excuse for a presidential candidate.

[Spider]

Originally Posted by DBruleU

According to a Gore backer.

Vice versa from me buddy.

He stole the election, he gave blow jobs to the males on the SCOTUS , and now he cant Diebold his way into office it's time to move on, and get over it.

Bush is a pethetic excuse for a presidential candidate.

there fixed for it for ya

[scorpio]

Al Gore for reverse president. Seriously guysss, if one of you could go back in time and make Al Gore the President, that would be SUPER!

I'm totally serial.




Honestly though, Al Gore is twice the man the Boy King is.

[Spider]

Originally Posted by scorpio

Al Gore for reverse president. Seriously guysss, if one of you could go back in time and make Al Gore the President, that would be SUPER!

I'm totally serial.




Honestly though, Al Gore is twice the man the Boy King is.

Happy mothers day

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by DBruleU

According to a Gore backer.
Vice versa from me buddy.
He lost, he cried, and now it's time to move on, and get over it.
Gore is a pethetic excuse for a presidential candidate.

I guess when you voted for the worst president in history...TWICE, all you have left is bashing the opponent.

[DBruleU]

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

I guess when you voted for the worst president in history...TWICE, all you have left is bashing the opponent.

Same could be said of sore losers. Bashing that is.

[Spider]

Originally Posted by DBruleU

Same could be said of sore losers. Bashing that is.

I quit bashing along time ago , you get hairy palms and will go blind if you keep it up

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by DBruleU

Same could be said of sore losers. Bashing that is.

See, this is the problem with some Bush supporters, they won't open their eyes to see we ALL are the losers now.

[Spider]

DBruleU if you have trouble reading this you may have bashed once to often

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

See, this is the problem with some Bush supporters, they won't open their eyes to see we ALL are the losers now.

Hammer, nail, head.

Their zeal to inflcit damage on their political enemies at home completely trumps any concern they might have for the welfare of their country (or the rest of the world.)

They would rather pay >$3 a gallon for gas and drive America to economic ruin than see Al Gore sitting in the WH.

They are small-minded hypocrites who lack the maturity and intelligence to understand politics other than in the same terms as a football rivalry.

What's really amazing is that so many of these people call themselves "Christians."

[DBruleU]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

Hammer, nail, head.

Their zeal to inflcit damage on their political enemies at home completely trumps any concern they might have for the welfare of their country (or the rest of the world.)

They would rather pay >$3 a gallon for gas and drive America to economic ruin than see Al Gore sitting in the WH.

They are small-minded hypocrites who lack the maturity and intelligence to understand politics other than in the same terms as a football rivalry.

What's really amazing is that so many of these people call themselves "Christians."

Tsk tsk LABF.

You can attack my political "Intelligence", but don't question wheather I am a Christian or not.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by DBruleU

Tsk tsk LABF.

You can attack my political "Intelligence", but don't question wheather I am a Christian or not.

Not much questioning is necessary.

The chasm between your walk and your talk says it all.

[DBruleU]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

Not much questioning is necessary.

The chasm between your walk and your talk says it all.

Examples please?

Frankly, I don't care wheather you believe I am a Christian or not, but please present me with some examples to discredit my Christian faith...

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by DBruleU

Examples please?

Frankly, I don't care wheather you believe I am a Christian or not, but please present me with some examples to discredit my Christian faith...

Your support for the carnage Bush is visiting on Iraq is all the evidence anyone needs.

And your "faith" is not so much a faith as an exercise in getting the formulation of dogma "right."

[Spider]

Originally Posted by DBruleU

Examples please?

Frankly, I don't care wheather you believe I am a Christian or not, but please present me with some examples to discredit my Christian faith...

oh become a christian after we quit throwing you guys to the lions

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

It's a no-brainer:

a) Christ's teachings

Compared to:

b) Bush and the GOP congress' actions...

...doesn't take a Bible scholar or a professor of theology to see the glaring contradictions.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Our Presidential Prophet of God and Great Decider

Many disastrous conflicts in human history were led by men who spoke as if they were directed by God to lead the slaughter. President Bush asserts that "I trust God speaks through me and without that, I couldn't do my job." His sincere belief that the human carnage and destruction resulting from his war of choice against Iraq is somehow the will of God should not be a surprise to Americans of the Christian and Jewish traditions.

As a seven year old child in a Christian church in Alabama, I was appalled by the Old Testament's story of Joshua and the battle of Jericho in our Sunday School class. Joshua, a great prophet of God and successor to Moses as the leader of the Israelites was commanded by God to commit genocide in the 6th chapter of Joshua. When invading Jericho, as instructed by God, the Jews "annihilated with the sword everything that breathed in the city, including men and women, young and old, as well cattle, sheep, and donkeys." Then God commanded the Jews take the "silver and gold, bronze and iron" for "God's treasury". When I asked the teacher why God would want his people to kill little children when Jesus loved the little children and was the Prince of Peace, our Sunday School teacher said the lesson was to obey God..

The Christian tradition of God as the warrior began in A.D. 312 with the Roman Emperor Constantine. Constantine said he had prayed for divine help before the engagement and then had a vision of a cross in the sky above his soldiers as they marched into the fray. This mystical event led to his Christian conversion after a major victory in battle against legions of his brother-in-law.

Christianity was declared the religion of the Roman Empire by Constantine, and the image of Christ as the Prince of Peace became conveniently interchangeable with Christ as the warrior God. Previously, the Roman Empire had persecuted the Christians because they were pacifists, taught not to serve in the military or use violence against others.

It had been unlawful for a Christian to be a soldier in the Roman army, but Constantine's conversion abruptly allied Christianity with Rome's military and by A.D. 416 it was compulsory for all Roman soldiers to be Christians. The medieval crusades led by Christians continued the genocide in the name of religion and recent history continues the tradition.

Before he became the Chancellor of Germany Hitler said, "My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter ", and as he launched WW II that devastated Europe Hitler said "I would like to thank Providence and the Almighty for choosing me of all people to be allowed to wage this battle for Germany." In 1940, Adolf Hitler said, "But there is something else I believe, and that is that there is a God. . . . And this God again has blessed our efforts.."

In another speech to the German people Hitler said , " The mercy of the Lord slowly returns to us again. And in this hour we sink to our knees and beseech our almighty God that he may bless us, that He may give us the strength to carry on the struggle for the freedom, the future, the honor, and the peace of our people. So help us God." .

Before he began his candidacy for President, George W. Bush told Evangelist James Robinson, "I feel like God wants me to run for President. I can't explain it, but I sense my country is going to need me. Something is going to happen . . . I know it won't be easy on me or my family, but God wants me to do it."

Bush has been called "a prophet" by Pat Robertson. According to Ralph Reed, God picked the President because "he knew George Bush had the ability to lead in this compelling way."

Bush has said, "I trust God speaks through me. Without that, I couldn't do my job". Bob Woodward, a Washington Post editor asked President Bush if he consulted with his father, the 41st President about Iraq before invading Iraq and his reply was "He is the wrong father to appeal to in terms of strength; there is a higher father that I appeal to."

The BBC reported that Palestinian Foreign Minister Nabil Shaath described his first meeting with President Bush in June 2003. Shaath says: "President Bush said to all of us: 'I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, "George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan." And I did, and then God would tell me, "George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq ..." And I did. And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, "Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East." And by God I'm gonna do it.'"

Some White House aides have described Bush's behavior as arrogant and abusive, characterized by sanctimonious invocations of his personal relationship with Jesus Christ combined with obscenity-laced invectives against subordinates.

It is very interesting that Bush's self-perception as being a spokesperson for God is history repeating itself when compared to other leaders who have wrought so much war and destruction. Should people of religious faith be comforted to know we have a Presidential Prophet of God in the White House? A self-described decider of what is best for our country? Is it God who is really directing Bush's policies of aggressive war, torture, domestic spying and the unprecedented transfer of social wealth from the country's working class majority to the multi-millionaires and billionaires that make up its financial elite?

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0513-29.htm

[DBruleU]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

It's a no-brainer:

a) Christ's teachings

Compared to:

b) Bush and the GOP congress' actions...

...doesn't take a Bible scholar or a professor of theology to see the glaring contradictions.

That's all I needed to know.

[spdirty]

Do you guys seriously want him to run? If he got the nomination his main campaign platform would be how he got screwed 8 years ago and how Bush has screwed everything up. Not a winning formula if you ask me.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by spdirty

If he got the nomination his main campaign platform would be how he got screwed 8 years ago and how Bush has screwed everything up.

How do you know this?

He could just as easily run on his extensive executive experience and reminders about the good ol' days when he and Bill occupied the WH and America had real leadership.

But no legitimate candidate can avoid pointing out how Bush has screwed everything up.

71% of Americans agree that Bush has screwed everything up.

You have to do an assessment of the damages before you can fix them.