deteriorating rights - The Orange Mane

TailgateNut · 05-11-2006, 07:52 AM

....or as the Bush backers would say (If BushCo does it, it must be within the confine of the law).

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12734870/

Thank you for turning the US into a nation without laws. When does this BS (Bush-****) stop? Who the f*** does he thin he is, and why do we allow him to continually step on the constitution as if it were a doormat?

Hogan11 · 05-11-2006, 08:06 AM

Only two years left....that's what I keep telling myself, almost like a mantra.

TailgateNut · 05-11-2006, 08:12 AM

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Only two years left....that's what I keep telling myself, almost like a mantra.

Sure, there are at a maximum only two years left, but just think of what the boy genius can do in two years! It's absolutely scary what this group has done in a matter of 5-1/2 years. I am extremely worried about what will happen to our country if this administration continues on it's current path. The erosion of civil rights will, in my belief, eventually cause an uprising from those who still have a set of hutzbaahs!

Bronco_Beerslug · 05-11-2006, 08:17 AM

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“It’s the largest database ever assembled in the world,” the paper quoted one source as saying. The agency’s goal is “to create a database of every call ever made” within U.S. borders, it said the source added.

Don't worry, republicans will break out the "have to stop Gays" platform at all costs, (since it's all they have left) come election time and keep this idiot in power.

Hogan11 · 05-11-2006, 08:20 AM

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Don't worry, republicans will break out the "have to stop Gays" platform at all costs, (since it's all they have left) come election time and keep this idiot in power.

Don't forget other barn-burners such as the National Anthem being sung in english, flag-burning & family values (although the Gay thing could be included in that I guess)..all tried and true to fire up the base and keep the middle ground virtually blind to all else that happens. Of course, then those issues disappear after the election is over.....just like Gay Marriage did.

They fall for it everytime......suckers.

TailgateNut · 05-11-2006, 08:21 AM

I wonder when we will wake up and notice where this country is headed. All of which is based on the fraudulent fear tactics of the dictatorship which is currently in "POWER"!

enjolras · 05-11-2006, 08:37 AM

This is f*ing unbelievable. I'm so pissed off right now I can't stand it.

defenseman · 05-11-2006, 08:42 AM

We'll see how this plays out. I'm for waiting till all the facts are in. MSNBC is a little too far left for me to believe everything they put out. "Flag Burning" in my estimation, is sacrilage. If one were to perform such an act, or believe it's a satisfactory response to something that they didn't agree with needs to move to Cuba.......dman

Hogan11 · 05-11-2006, 08:43 AM

Hey it's all for your protection and safety...so shut up, sit down and waive the flag or you'll be paid a visit in the near future, if you know what I mean.

Hotrod · 05-11-2006, 08:45 AM

1. WTF maybe Bush is the anit-christ
2. These people are not stupid (Bush included) so if things like this are being discovered it would make one think what else are they doing that his better hidden from view. Talk about scary.
3. WTF

Hotrod · 05-11-2006, 08:46 AM

How about a 100million people class action suit

Hogan11 · 05-11-2006, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by defenseman

"Flag Burning" in my estimation, is sacrilage. If one were to perform such an act, or believe it's a satisfactory response to something that they didn't agree with needs to move to Cuba.......dman

My point was that this is an issue that's trotted out at election time to get people fired up and then after the vote, it is rarely heard of again until the next election comes around. Nothing is ever done about the amendment...why? well geeze, why discard a hot button issue they use to fire up with? That's crazy because they may need that again at some point in the future.

Bronco_Beerslug · 05-11-2006, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by defenseman

We'll see how this plays out. I'm for waiting till all the facts are in. MSNBC is a little too far left for me to believe everything they put out. "Flag Burning" in my estimation, is sacrilage. If one were to perform such an act, or believe it's a satisfactory response to something that they didn't agree with needs to move to Cuba.......dman

The story is from the USA Today. Flag burning is sacrilege but spying on Americans in their homes ranks down the list a ways, huh?

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WASHINGTON - The government has abruptly ended an inquiry into the warrantless eavesdropping program because the National Security Agency refused to grant Justice Department lawyers the necessary security clearance to probe the matter.

http://tinyurl.com/zjoja

defenseman · 05-11-2006, 08:51 AM

You guys jump "WAY" to quick. Try letting it play out and see what happens. If this is proven to be true, I will tell you, it's a big problem. And I too, will be very upset with the Pres. if he was behind it..dman

*FLAG BURNING is sacrilage. Don't try to compare ANY act to this. One of the most contemptable acts a US citizen can perform. This STANDS ALONE, nothing else is comparable..

Hotrod · 05-11-2006, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by defenseman

You guys jump "WAY" to quick. Try letting it play out and see what happens. If this is proven to be true, I will tell you, it's a big problem. And I too, will be very upset with the Pres. if he was behind it..dman

*FLAG BURNING is sacrilage. Don't try to compare ANY act to this. One of the most contemptable acts a US citizen can perform. This STANDS ALONE, nothing else is comparable..

While Im certainly with you on flag burning this IS a huge deal. Heads should roll on this one. Ive been a supporter of the patriot act even thou it made me worried to a point. This has gone to fricking far. Im pissed off and the repubs can now officially kiss my ass.

defenseman · 05-11-2006, 08:58 AM

Again, wait for the response. If it's a wash , then, it's a wash. If not, and the pres. and others are behind it, well guys, he may just get his ass impeached let alone the GOP losing the house and senate this fall..dman

TailgateNut · 05-11-2006, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by defenseman

You guys jump "WAY" to quick. Try letting it play out and see what happens. If this is proven to be true, I will tell you, it's a big problem. And I too, will be very upset with the Pres. if he was behind it..dman

*FLAG BURNING is sacrilage. Don't try to compare ANY act to this. One of the most contemptable acts a US citizen can perform. This STANDS ALONE, nothing else is comparable..

Let it play out

How far should we allow it to play out. I'm ready to lock and load! f*** this BS! My family didn't sacrifice lives for this country, to sit back and allow this kind of crap! I'm Pissed off. The NSA should start wearing some of those shiny SS boots! It would fit their current SOP!
What's the g-damn purpose of this Data-base, and who the **** ive anyone the right to log who the hell I call and how often!

Damn Kool aid drinkin' fools continue to back these a$$holes who think they can **** on the constitution and the Bill of Rights!

Hogan11 · 05-11-2006, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by defenseman

You guys jump "WAY" to quick. Try letting it play out and see what happens. If this is proven to be true, I will tell you, it's a big problem. And I too, will be very upset with the Pres. if he was behind it..dman.

I think some things are a little too dangerous to "let play out and see what happens".....maybe that's just me.

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*FLAG BURNING is sacrilage. Don't try to compare ANY act to this. One of the most contemptable acts a US citizen can perform. This STANDS ALONE, nothing else is comparable..

I agree but, I'm not going to divert the thread into some debate about this thing...you know what I ment by bringing it up and the passion you show over it further proves my point about it. Here's an idea, how about writing your Congressperson and asking why there hasn't been more done to get that Admendment passed? Why the delay? Why does it vanish after every election and why is there nothing more done about it? I'm very tired of hearing about it every four years...especially when everyone is basically in favor of it.

Hotrod · 05-11-2006, 09:03 AM

Well Tailgate it is just a fing piece of paper right

This is what happens when a spoiled rich kid who has no respect for the constitution or America itself has been given the keys to the car. This **** needs to stop or soon it will be to late if its not already. Like I said we will be paying for Bushs mistakes/policys for ALONG time.

Rohirrim · 05-11-2006, 09:04 AM

One sweet dream,
pick up the bags get in the limosine.
Soon we'll be away from here
step on the gas and wipe that tear away.
One sweet dream,
came true
today.

TailgateNut · 05-11-2006, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Rohirrim

One sweet dream,
pick up the bags get in the limosine.
Soon we'll be away from here
step on the gas and wipe that tear away.
One sweet dream,
came true
today.

Ok, I'll admit it, YOU LOST ME!

TailgateNut · 05-11-2006, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrod

Well Tailgate it is just a fing piece of paper right

This is what happens when a spoiled rich kid who has no respect for the constitution or America itself has been given the keys to the car. This **** needs to stop or soon it will be to late if its not already. Like I said we will be paying for Bushs mistakes/policys for ALONG time.

It sure does seem like ""it's just a piece of f-ing paper" to some! That's what bothers me so much. We continually sit back and whatch as it is abused and ignored. The citizens of this country have turned into VEGETABLES!

Hotrod · 05-11-2006, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by TailgateNut

It sure does seem like ""it's just a piece of f-ing paper" to some! That's what bothers me so much. We continually sit back and whatch as it is abused and ignored. The citizens of this country have turned into VEGETABLES!

The good news is that Americans will wake up and take up the fight once they are pushed enough..........the question is will it be to damn late.

TailgateNut · 05-11-2006, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrod

The good news is that Americans will wake up and take up the fight once they are pushed enough..........the question is will it be to damn late.

I'm afraid that only 1/3 of our countrymen have spines, the rest just meander along hoping all will turn out just peachy!

Rohirrim · 05-11-2006, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by TailgateNut

Ok, I'll admit it, YOU LOST ME!

Time to pack up and get out.

05-11-2006, 07:52 AM	#1
TailgateNut Bleedin' orange! .......as much as tebonites Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mile High Posts: 20,018 Adopt-a-Bronco: Howard Griffith	deteriorating rights ....or as the Bush backers would say (If BushCo does it, it must be within the confine of the law). http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12734870/ Thank you for turning the US into a nation without laws. When does this BS (Bush-**) stop? Who the f* does he thin he is, and why do we allow him to continually step on the constitution as if it were a doormat?

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05-11-2006, 08:06 AM	#2
Hogan11 Rock-N-Roll Historian Let's take these SOB's out!!!!!! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: W.NY.B.C. Posts: 21,300 Adopt-a-Bronco: Floyd Little	Only two years left....that's what I keep telling myself, almost like a mantra.

05-11-2006, 08:21 AM	#6
TailgateNut Bleedin' orange! .......as much as tebonites Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mile High Posts: 20,018 Adopt-a-Bronco: Howard Griffith	I wonder when we will wake up and notice where this country is headed. All of which is based on the fraudulent fear tactics of the dictatorship which is currently in "POWER"!

05-11-2006, 08:37 AM	#7
enjolras Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,939	This is f*ing unbelievable. I'm so pissed off right now I can't stand it.

05-11-2006, 08:42 AM	#8
defenseman Ring of Famer 2007 record pred. (7-9) Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 9,232	We'll see how this plays out. I'm for waiting till all the facts are in. MSNBC is a little too far left for me to believe everything they put out. "Flag Burning" in my estimation, is sacrilage. If one were to perform such an act, or believe it's a satisfactory response to something that they didn't agree with needs to move to Cuba.......dman

05-11-2006, 08:43 AM	#9
Hogan11 Rock-N-Roll Historian Let's take these SOB's out!!!!!! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: W.NY.B.C. Posts: 21,300 Adopt-a-Bronco: Floyd Little	Hey it's all for your protection and safety...so shut up, sit down and waive the flag or you'll be paid a visit in the near future, if you know what I mean.

05-11-2006, 08:45 AM	#10
Hotrod Self Appointed Expert aka Dortoh Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 25,136 Adopt-a-Bronco: Miss I	1. WTF maybe Bush is the anit-christ 2. These people are not stupid (Bush included) so if things like this are being discovered it would make one think what else are they doing that his better hidden from view. Talk about scary. 3. WTF

05-11-2006, 08:46 AM	#11
Hotrod Self Appointed Expert aka Dortoh Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 25,136 Adopt-a-Bronco: Miss I	How about a 100million people class action suit

05-11-2006, 08:51 AM	#14
defenseman Ring of Famer 2007 record pred. (7-9) Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 9,232	You guys jump "WAY" to quick. Try letting it play out and see what happens. If this is proven to be true, I will tell you, it's a big problem. And I too, will be very upset with the Pres. if he was behind it..dman *FLAG BURNING is sacrilage. Don't try to compare ANY act to this. One of the most contemptable acts a US citizen can perform. This STANDS ALONE, nothing else is comparable..

05-11-2006, 08:58 AM	#16
defenseman Ring of Famer 2007 record pred. (7-9) Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 9,232	Again, wait for the response. If it's a wash , then, it's a wash. If not, and the pres. and others are behind it, well guys, he may just get his ass impeached let alone the GOP losing the house and senate this fall..dman

05-11-2006, 09:03 AM	#19
Hotrod Self Appointed Expert aka Dortoh Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 25,136 Adopt-a-Bronco: Miss I	Well Tailgate it is just a fing piece of paper right This is what happens when a spoiled rich kid who has no respect for the constitution or America itself has been given the keys to the car. This **** needs to stop or soon it will be to late if its not already. Like I said we will be paying for Bushs mistakes/policys for ALONG time.

05-11-2006, 09:04 AM	#20
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,791	One sweet dream, pick up the bags get in the limosine. Soon we'll be away from here step on the gas and wipe that tear away. One sweet dream, came true today.