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Old 05-14-2006, 01:59 PM   #126
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Yeah you sure know a lot about the Spurs, have you ever heard the Spurs player use the officiating as an excuse after a game. They dont and their coach doesnt.
Timmy, would you like some cheese with that whine?

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On fouling out at the end of the game:
It was incredibly frustrating because of the type of fouls that were being called down the stretch there. I didnít think they were fouls and then to sit with that with such a short clock.

On the sixth foul call:
He didnít fall into me. He didnít touch me Ė I didnít touch him. He tried to draw contact, I moved out of his way. If he stepped on my foot, he stepped on my foot. There was zero contact.
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Old 05-14-2006, 02:44 PM   #127
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Old 05-14-2006, 02:47 PM   #128
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Putting Tim Thomas on Elton Brand and Shawn Marion on Sam Cassell was a great move on the Suns part.

Cassell had his worst game of the post season and Brand was reduced to a mere mortal.

Kaman picked a bad time to start playing like a little b**** out there. If not for the Russian influence we would have gotten killed Friday.

No reason to change from the Suns perspective. On the positive side the Clips played like **** the whole game and still had a shot at the end. On the other hand the Suns didn't play great either and those are the games that good teams have to fight though.

The final Nash shot was an offensive push but the MVP isn't gonna get called for that so I can't really b**** about it.

This is a must win for the Clips. Sucks to steal home court then give it right back the next game.
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Old 05-14-2006, 02:58 PM   #129
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Sometimes I become a little embarrassed just reading them. Get done with one and you're convinced Dirk could cure cancer, end war and solve racism. And that whoever Dallas is playing currently is worse than Hitler, Bin Laden and Lex Luthor rolled into one.
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Timmy, would you like some cheese with that whine?

Spurs forward Tim Duncan
On fouling out at the end of the game:
It was incredibly frustrating because of the type of fouls that were being called down the stretch there. I didnít think they were fouls and then to sit with that with such a short clock.

On the sixth foul call:
He didnít fall into me. He didnít touch me Ė I didnít touch him. He tried to draw contact, I moved out of his way. If he stepped on my foot, he stepped on my foot. There was zero contact.

Wow great find, Llamabeans, first time in TD's HALL-OF-FAME CAREER, he complains about the officiating after game. And that sixth foul on him was BS.

Remember Dirk complaining during the 2003 series, especially after game 2.
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Old 05-14-2006, 03:27 PM   #132
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AL, your Dirk licking posts are as unintentionally funny as anything that's ever been posted here.
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Old 05-14-2006, 03:34 PM   #133
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No, I am a huge Celtic's fan. I just think the Spurs are going to be the Mavs. I am a 100% certain that San Antonio will prevail in this series.

Duncan>>>>>>>>Notwitzki
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The Spurs out class the Mavs in every category.

I am just amazed by the fact that the Mavs were able to steal two games from the Spurs.
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Old 05-14-2006, 03:35 PM   #134
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I never said that the series is over. Check my posts...you wont find that there. Forgive me for being excited that the Mavs have outplayed the NBA Champions in the first three games of a playoff series, and that their star player is consistently delivering the all-around great play that I had hoped to see from him in the playoffs. Forgive me for being happy that a team that depends on intentional flopping and gifts from the officials is not getting to fool the refs in this series.

The Spurs can still win, and I expected them to win the series, but you cant deny that Dallas has been the better team in nearly every phase for the first three games. Dallas is on top mentally too. There wont be alot of rest for SA at any point in the remainder of the series. It's going to take a gargantuan effort for the Spurs to win this series, and I am proud of the Mavs for putting them at a disadvantage so early in the series...for taking advantage of the situation and putting SA in an increasingly difficult situation. If Dallas wins game 4, the situation becomes very, very difficult for an aged team like SA.

Blah, blah, blah. I expected this series to go 7 and I have always said the Mavs were on the Spurs level ALL SEASON. I'm not surprised they are up 2-1.

Hell, they could be up 3-0 but the Spurs could easily be up 2-1.

But I have never criticized the Mavs players, especially a great player like Dirk.

But through your posts, you have accused the Spurs of being whiners, TD being mentally weak and they get the favorable treatment from the refs.

That IS ALL CRAP.

Its good to be excited about your team but to constantly criticize the other team is pathetic.

So your post is misleading.
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Old 05-14-2006, 03:42 PM   #135
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No, I am a huge Celtic's fan. I just think the Spurs are going to be the Mavs. I am a 100% certain that San Antonio will prevail in this series.

Duncan>>>>>>>>Notwitzki
Parker>>>>>>>>>>>>Terry
Ginobli>>>>>>>>>>>>Daniels
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The Spurs out class the Mavs in every category.

I am just amazed by the fact that the Mavs were able to steal two games from the Spurs.
You're a ****ing idiot.

Steal? Since when do teams "steal" wins in the semis?
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Blah, blah, blah. I expected this series to go 7 and I have always said the Mavs were on the Spurs level ALL SEASON. I'm not surprised they are up 2-1.

Hell, they could be up 3-0 but the Spurs could easily be up 2-1.

But I have never criticized the Mavs players, especially a great player like Dirk.

But through your posts, you have accused the Spurs of being whiners, TD being mentally weak and they get the favorable treatment from the refs.

That IS ALL CRAP.

Its good to be excited about your team but to constantly criticize the other team is pathetic.

So your post is misleading.
Llama posts are riddled with half-truths and off the wall hyperbole that only a psychiatric ward patient could understand his blatant abuse of reality.

* He once stated that if Dirk played in New York or LA he would have two consecutive MVP's by now. Nevermind the fact that Patrick Ewing never won an MVP while playing in New York or that Shaq only won ONE MVP while winning three straight championships. But yea, Dirk is getting screeeeeeewed.

* He believes the reason that Dirk didn't win the MVP is because he doesn't have a shoe commercial. Keep in mind that he REALLY believes this crap.

* He played the race card and said the Dirk wouldn't win the MVP because he wasn't "black."

* He actually compared Dirk's 9 free throws in a the fourth quarter of last night's game to Larry Bird. Actually he said was better than any of Bird's performances. He is not playing with a full deck here.

* One moment he calls Josh Howard "unreliable and unworthy of being a starting forward in this league" to "I compare him to Scottie Pippen. I've always said he was the next Scottie Pippen." He is not the smartest guy around here.


Overall, just take everything he says with a grain of salt. He bends the facts, flip-flops, and generally will lie his way out of any situation.
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I am just amazed by the fact that the Mavs were able to steal two games from the Spurs.


Wow.
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Old 05-14-2006, 04:09 PM   #138
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The real Mavs fans here should be cursing you right now, you just put the whammy on the Mavs.

Nice going, Mush.
That's right. I have a friend who's a HUGE Spurs fan. She'll be happy to hear that someone officially put the whammy on the Mavs...
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Old 05-14-2006, 04:23 PM   #139
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Llama posts are riddled with half-truths and off the wall hyperbole that only a psychiatric ward patient could understand his blatant abuse of reality.

* He once stated that if Dirk played in New York or LA he would have two consecutive MVP's by now. Nevermind the fact that Patrick Ewing never won an MVP while playing in New York or that Shaq only won ONE MVP while winning three straight championships. But yea, Dirk is getting screeeeeeewed.

* He believes the reason that Dirk didn't win the MVP is because he doesn't have a shoe commercial. Keep in mind that he REALLY believes this crap.

* He played the race card and said the Dirk wouldn't win the MVP because he wasn't "black."

* He actually compared Dirk's 9 free throws in a the fourth quarter of last night's game to Larry Bird. Actually he said was better than any of Bird's performances. He is not playing with a full deck here.

* One moment he calls Josh Howard "unreliable and unworthy of being a starting forward in this league" to "I compare him to Scottie Pippen. I've always said he was the next Scottie Pippen." He is not the smartest guy around here.


Overall, just take everything he says with a grain of salt. He bends the facts, flip-flops, and generally will lie his way out of any situation.

I now take whatever he says w/ grain of salt. I will just ignore him from now on. It was pretty funny for him to call TD mentally weak and Dirk's performance as comparable to Bird.

Geez, TD mentally weak. How many rings does Dirk have? 0. TD - 3. Finals MVPS - Dirk, 0. TD - 3. ENOUGH SAID.

Llama, yeah, TD is mentally weak. He played on two sprain ankles throughout last season's playoffs and won the RING.

This year, he's played on a plantar Fascitis injury the ENTIRE SEASON and now is single-handley keeping the Spurs around in this series.

YEAH, MENTALLY WEAK MY ASS.

Dirk should be lucky enough to be mentioned in the same class as him.

But he wont till he leads his team to the Finals.
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I now take whatever he says w/ grain of salt. I will just ignore him from now on. It was pretty funny for him to call TD mentally weak and Dirk's performance as comparable to Bird.

Geez, TD mentally weak. How many rings does Dirk have? 0. TD - 3. Finals MVPS - Dirk, 0. TD - 3. ENOUGH SAID.

Llama, yeah, TD is mentally weak. He played on two sprain ankles throughout last season's playoffs and won the RING.

This year, he's played on a plantar Fascitis injury the ENTIRE SEASON and now is single-handley keeping the Spurs around in this series.

YEAH, MENTALLY WEAK MY ASS.

Dirk should be lucky enough to be mentioned in the same class as him.

But he wont till he leads his team to the Finals.
And lets not forget that llama is the lowest form of fan known to man -- the bandwagoner. His favorite team USE to be the Chicago Bulls but after they began to struggle his shifted his alliances to the Steve Nash/ Dirk Nowitzksi led Mavericks. He makes no qualms about being a bandwagoner either.

After the Mavs lose this series I presume he will be a die hard Pistons fan next year.

I might be mistaken but didn't Llama use to claim the Lakers as his team as well until Shaq left?
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Suns played piss poor game all around, and STILL almost made a comeback.

Cassell is a stud, and as usual came thru for the Clips. Game 5 is huge, Suns gotta hold home serve the rest of the way caz this is going 7 games!
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Old 05-15-2006, 07:19 AM   #142
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Timmy, would you like some cheese with that whine?

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On fouling out at the end of the game:
It was incredibly frustrating because of the type of fouls that were being called down the stretch there. I didnít think they were fouls and then to sit with that with such a short clock.

On the sixth foul call:
He didnít fall into me. He didnít touch me Ė I didnít touch him. He tried to draw contact, I moved out of his way. If he stepped on my foot, he stepped on my foot. There was zero contact.
Yes Duncan does get a little animated when he doesn't gets some calls, but I don't recall a time EVER in his career when his beef wasn't legit. If Duncan is complaining then it almost 100% certain the ref got it wrong.

For a 2-time MVP and 3-time finals MVP, he doesn't get near the benefit of the doubt most NBA stars (Nowitski anyone?) seem to get from the refs. In fact it's almost silly the type of fouls he gets called for compared to the muggings he gets on offense. It's been that way for about 2-3 years now.
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Yes Duncan does get a little animated when he doesn't gets some calls, but I don't recall a time EVER in his career when his beef wasn't legit. If Duncan is complaining then it almost 100% certain the ref got it wrong.
You have GOT to be ****ting me.
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Nope. Actually watch the replay sometime when he complains. He's almost always right.

Now, I will admit he does get away with some fouls (like most NBA superstars do), but when he has a beef about a no-call or a ticky tack foul it's usually legit.

Look at how many time he has touched the ball in this series down in the low post. As active as he is going hard to the basket and rebounding he should be seeing the foul line a MINIMUM of 15 times a game.
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You have GOT to be ****ting me.
Give him a break, he is a

This time of the season, no basketball fan is able to take their blinders off.
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I'm done with the NBA for the season. I'm tired of the way officials 'shade' games during the playoffs. They made sure everyone gets to Witness at least one more LeBron James game this year.
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I'm done with the NBA for the season. I'm tired of the way officials 'shade' games during the playoffs. They made sure everyone gets to Witness at least one more LeBron James game this year.

I know i want to Witness Lebron too. So at least they know what we want to watch.
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Nope. Actually watch the replay sometime when he complains. He's almost always right.

Now, I will admit he does get away with some fouls (like most NBA superstars do), but when he has a beef about a no-call or a ticky tack foul it's usually legit.

Look at how many time he has touched the ball in this series down in the low post. As active as he is going hard to the basket and rebounding he should be seeing the foul line a MINIMUM of 15 times a game.



Dont worry, all Mavs fans have their blinders on.
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Things that bore me: Reality television, "wacky" morning radio shows, the very sight of Charlie Sheen.

You'll notice that Tim Duncan does not make the list.

In fact, I could list a million things that bore me -- ironing, Stone Phillips, Austria -- without mentioning Duncan.

I could list a million boring sports things -- cricket, free agency, throws to first to hold the runner -- and No. 21 for the San Antonio Spurs still would be nowhere near making an appearance.

I don't just respect Tim Duncan -- everyone does that. I'm entertained watching him play basketball.

I love the bank shots, the drop steps, the efficient post moves, the intelligent passes out of double-teams, the two-hand rebounds, the refusal to force anything. I've enjoyed watching him hang 31 points and 11 rebounds a game on the Dallas Mavericks in a ding-dong series so far, and I can't wait to see him play Monday night against the Mavs in what verges on a must-win playoff game.

This apparently makes me un-American enough that the NSA soon will be listening to my phone calls.

Enjoying Duncan runs counter to a state university-sized school of thought that says the most accomplished player in the NBA is test-pattern dull. Skip and Woody actually agreed on something last week on "Cold Pizza" -- that the Spurs (i.e., Duncan) are boring. And Madison Avenue clearly sees it that way, given its shunning of Duncan as a national pitchman.

Dwyane Wade will put you in a swell pair of shoes. Shaq will tell you how to care for your aching muscles. Even onetime pariah pitchman Kobe Bryant has made a commercial comeback, trading on his anti-hero status.

Just recently I've seen Kevin Garnett portray a platoon leader, a superhero and a standup comic. Funny, though, I've never seen him portray a pro basketball player in June.

Vince Carter is selling a wireless service during the playoffs. That's nice. When the Heat are finished with Carter and the Nets, he should have enough free minutes to call Duncan and ask him what winning a championship or three feels like.

I hear we're all witnesses to LeBron James' ascendance. While I won't dispute that, I'm wondering how commercial America failed to witness the Duncan phenomenon that preceded it.

The two-time league MVP and three-time NBA Finals MVP, the first player ever to be named first-team All-NBA in each of his first eight seasons as a pro, the guy who pushed himself through 80 regular-season games with plantar fasciitis, the perfect teammate, the caring community presence, the ideal face of a franchise? Guess he's too stoic and too solid to sell.

I look around the league and simply don't get it. I see repetitive stories about the anti-Duncans and yawn.

Thin man Allen Iverson and tin man Chris Webber blowing off Fan Appreciation Night in Philly? Shocker.

Overexposed and underprepared point guard Sebastian Telfair playing just 24 minutes a game for a 60-loss team? Hardly the stuff of books and documentaries, is it?

Larry Brown and Stephon Marbury hissing at each other through the tabloids during a train-wreck season? Utter boredom.

Amid this fool's parade, isn't there some love to be found for the Big Fundamental?

Yes. Turns out you can find it from predictable and unpredictable sources.

"I think he's very refreshing," said South Carolina's Dave Odom, who had Duncan for four years at Wake Forest. "What's different is refreshing, and he's different. It's gone 180 degrees now.

"He's fundamentally sound, a fearless, determined champion, someone who didn't feel like he already knew everything, who puts the team first -- those were throwback virtues and attributes. Those were things that made the old Celtic teams great, but today that's not true. Today's game is style over substance. He's the opposite. He's substance over style.

"I think he's appreciated. I don't think he's adored."

Unpredictable? How about Ron Artest, the NBA's Jesse James to Duncan's Wyatt Earp. The combustible Sacramento King told Dime Magazine this season that he likes the way Duncan plays.

Artest explained: "I remember one time Kevin Garnett was mushing him, and shoving him in the face; and Tim Duncan didn't do anything, he didn't react. He just kicked Kevin Garnett's a--, and won the damn championship. You know what I'm sayin'? That's gangsta. Everybody can show emotion, dunk on somebody, scream and be real cocky; but Tim Duncan is a ... he's a pimp."

Only the creative cloudy thinking of Ron Artest could put "Tim Duncan" and "pimp" in the same sentence -- but that's part of the big guy's marketability deficit. In terms of swagger, he's more plumber than pimp. He's as edgy as a sphere.

The closest he's come to being controversial is complaining about David Stern's new dress code (Duncan isn't comfortable without his shirttail hanging out, and he's not a suit-and-tie guy). He doesn't need big-city bling, being perfectly comfortable in the relative obscurity of San Antonio. And he's a lousy self-promoter.

"He doesn't let us into his life," said San Antonio Express-News columnist Buck Harvey. "Probably my first interview with him was as good as my last one. But in this business you can kind of respect that. He isn't trying to get in good with the media.

"My impression, if you were to know him as a teammate and a friend, he wouldn't be boring at all. He's very smart and has a great sense of humor. He just doesn't want to put that out there."

The Duncan we don't see is the guy who came over to Odom's house for dinner last October, the night before an exhibition game in Columbia, S.C. -- and fretted because he didn't have anything nicer to wear than his sweat suit. The Duncan we don't see sat in Odom's living room talking to the coach and his wife for hours after dinner, then dropped by South Carolina's practice the next day to work with the post men on a few drills.

Odom reports that the Gamecock players were not bored by Duncan's presence.

Turns out they're not alone. There might be a peasant revolution underway when it comes to Duncan and his Q Rating.

The latest issue of ESPN Magazine ran the results of a SportsNation poll identifying athletes with the most "cred." It's about as easily defined as porn -- we know it when we see it, to borrow from a former Supreme Court justice -- but it would seem to rank among the highest compliments you can pay a player.

My jaded assumption was that Duncan would rate depressingly low on the "cred" scale. Instead, he leads the league and ranks behind only Tiger Woods and Tom Brady among "SportsNation's most cred-carrying athletes."

I nearly wept. Boring, at last, is beautiful.

Pat Forde is a national columnist at ESPN.com.
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I remember a story about Duncan when he came into the league as the #1 pick. The Spurs sent him to some NBA developmental camp the summer before the season for rookies only. They wanted him to work on shooting with his left hand, turning to his left, etc. So Duncan went there and basically everytime he got the ball in a scrimmage he went left, struggled a bit and looked timid. Another big man who was a rookie at the time (Bryant Reeves maybe?) basically dominated him and there were very real whispers that Duncan may be a bust. Of course, he was just working on a weak part of his game and has been a dominate post player since then.
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