The Orange Mane -  a Denver Broncos Fan Community  

Go Back   The Orange Mane - a Denver Broncos Fan Community > Other Sports Discussion > NBA & NCAA
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Chat Room Mark Forums Read



View Poll Results:
0 0%
Voters: 0. This poll is closed

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-18-2006, 11:20 PM   #1201
The Big E
Ring of Famer
 
The Big E's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Hermosa Beach
Posts: 1,906
Default

I can't believe Dallas lost all three games in Miami. Wade got a lot of generous calls tonight for sure. Who fell down for Dallas when they could have had him trapped on the sidelilne? Was it a flop? If so, very weak. If he just fell down, just bad luck.

After Howard did his C-Webb impression, I thought back to the 1976 finals, game 5, at the end of the second OT. Phoenix was behind by one with a second left and had to inbounds it in full court from the baseline. Paul Westphal had the idea to call a timeout that they didn't have, which led to a T. They gave up the point, BUT, because of the T, they were then allowed to throw the ball in from mid-court. Gar Heard then hit one of the greatest shots of all time and sent the game to a third OT. Would the rules today have allowed Dallas to do the same thing tonight? If so, they should have.

Did I just age myself? Hey, I was only 13 then and a die-hard Suns fan, so I'm not too ancient.
The Big E is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2006, 11:40 PM   #1202
Bob's your Information Minister
Chiefs > Broncos
 

Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 26,184

Adopt-a-Bronco:
CHRIS KUPER!!!
Default

Yet another screw job by the officials:

Wade was established in the front court and then went into the backcourt to catch the in-bounds pass. That is a backcourt violation.
Bob's your Information Minister is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2006, 11:41 PM   #1203
Clockwork Orange
Persona Non Grata
 
Clockwork Orange's Avatar
 
I seen him!

Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 21,352
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister
Yet another screw job by the officials:

Wade was established in the front court and then went into the backcourt to catch the in-bounds pass. That is a backcourt violation.
No it isn't, not on an out of bounds play.

Learn the rules before you start whining, frontrunning fag.
Clockwork Orange is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2006, 11:43 PM   #1204
DarkHorse30
Smith Rules
 
DarkHorse30's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,270

Adopt-a-Bronco:
wolf pot roast
Default a "foul" in the last 2 seconds?

The NBA is a joke.
DarkHorse30 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2006, 11:43 PM   #1205
-Slap-
Ring of Famer
 

Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 31,806
Default

El mergo chango!
-Slap- is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2006, 11:44 PM   #1206
Bob's your Information Minister
Chiefs > Broncos
 

Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 26,184

Adopt-a-Bronco:
CHRIS KUPER!!!
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange
No it isn't, not on an out of bounds play.

Learn the rules before you start whining, frontrunning fag.
I'm just quoting Mark Cuban. Those were his words. Apparently you know the rules better than NBA owner.
Bob's your Information Minister is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2006, 11:44 PM   #1207
Clockwork Orange
Persona Non Grata
 
Clockwork Orange's Avatar
 
I seen him!

Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 21,352
Default

In before this gets merged into the existing thread.

You and Bob can cry on each others shoulders.
Clockwork Orange is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2006, 11:47 PM   #1208
Bob's your Information Minister
Chiefs > Broncos
 

Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 26,184

Adopt-a-Bronco:
CHRIS KUPER!!!
Default

He wasn't even fouled. All night. Wade was getting the call when Dallas breathed on him.

There's some home cookin' going on when ONE PLAYER gets to the line as many times as the entire other team.
Bob's your Information Minister is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2006, 11:47 PM   #1209
Clockwork Orange
Persona Non Grata
 
Clockwork Orange's Avatar
 
I seen him!

Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 21,352
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister
I'm just quoting Mark Cuban. Those were his words. Apparently you know the rules better than NBA owner.
Apparently I do. You're allowed to use the entire court to inbound the ball, frontcourt and backcourt.

Cuban is just doing what he always does, whining and crying. I'm sure he appreciates you taking up his cause regardless of the fact that it makes you both look like idiots.

I also know that if you call your last timeout before the 2nd free throw, you don't get to advance the ball. I guess I know the rulebook better than Josh Howard too.
Clockwork Orange is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2006, 11:50 PM   #1210
Rulon Velvet Jones
You're not really here.
 
Rulon Velvet Jones's Avatar
 
Tight Butthole

Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 6,693

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Rent-A-DC
Default

**** me.

Gutty performance by Dallas tonight. Mental mistakes did them in.

It's amazing to see that Wade as many FTs as the entire Mavericks team. I don't think Dallas shot a single one in the 3rd quarter. Now, I don't like to call out the refs as I feel that's a crutch - but there's some friggin' in the riggin'. You can say that Miami shot so many because they were the aggressor, but that wouldn't apply in this game. Dallas was taking it as hard as Miami was. Homecooking, preferential treatment, whatever. I don't know what it is exactly, but there's some bull**** going down in the NBA. It's not just in the series. It's running rampant and looks to get worse unless someone calls them out on the inconsistency (paging Cuban's blog, paging Mark Cuban's blog).

The final timeout called by Howard (or whatever it is that happened) might not have made that much of a difference. I know people will say that that error did them in, but really - were they going to score with the 1.9 left? It was unlikely.

Well, back to Dallas. I think the team will get a huge boost from coming home and maybe get a bit of the home cooking. I think Dallas blows them out big in Game 6 to force a showdown for Thursday. The absence of Stack hurt a bit tonight as the bench didn't come up as big as was needed (though Quis did play well in his time covering Wade).

I can't believe the playoffs have been going on for almost 2 months now and amount to about an additional 25% of play. I'm a young lad and have had about 4 heart attacks in that time.
Rulon Velvet Jones is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2006, 11:50 PM   #1211
DarkHorse30
Smith Rules
 
DarkHorse30's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,270

Adopt-a-Bronco:
wolf pot roast
Default

don't really care who wins. I hate Dallas nearly as much as any team.....but stern has turned the NBA into a laughing stock. Rules shmoolz.....let's get a bunch of retirees reffing a game so social security can be saved......whee.
DarkHorse30 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2006, 11:50 PM   #1212
watermock
"Hoodie Jr"
 
watermock's Avatar
 
"Hug me!"

Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah
Posts: 76,813
Default

The game was called tight all night Boob, because of the hack job Stackhouse gave Shaq. Your not even remotely in touch with reality. I like both teams, but the team that wins game 5...

Now you have conflicting history. Since 2-3-2 only two teams have overcome an 0-2 basement. I can't wait for the talking heads at ESPN to splain this one away. I still give the edge to Dallas, but just barely.
watermock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2006, 11:51 PM   #1213
RhymesayersDU
Go Broncos, Nuggets, Rox
 
RhymesayersDU's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Back In The 303!
Posts: 15,022

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Ty Lawson
Default

I'd actually want to look that call up, because it looked fishy to me at first.

Yes, you're allowed to catch the ball in the backcourt on an out of bounds, but Wade jumped from the front court and caught the ball in the backcourt. Not sure if that matters, but for argument's sake, if you were to catch the ball in the front court on an out of bounds play, you wouldn't be able to dribble it into the backcourt.

I don't know for sure on this, I think Wade was allowed to catch the ball in mid-air like he did because what matters is the ball, not the player, and the ball was never in the frount court, technically. But again, I'd have to look it up.
RhymesayersDU is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2006, 11:53 PM   #1214
Clockwork Orange
Persona Non Grata
 
Clockwork Orange's Avatar
 
I seen him!

Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 21,352
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister
There's some home cookin' going on when ONE PLAYER gets to the line as many times as the entire other team.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=260513006

Dirk Nowitzki: 21-24 (team attempted 50) from the line
San Antonio 22-32 from the line

So was there some "home cookin'" going on in that game too?
Clockwork Orange is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2006, 11:53 PM   #1215
Bob's your Information Minister
Chiefs > Broncos
 

Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 26,184

Adopt-a-Bronco:
CHRIS KUPER!!!
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange
Apparently I do. You're allowed to use the entire court to inbound the ball, frontcourt and backcourt.
That wasn't the issue. The issue was that Wade had established himself in the frontcourt first. That was what Cuban said anyway.
Bob's your Information Minister is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2006, 11:54 PM   #1216
watermock
"Hoodie Jr"
 
watermock's Avatar
 
"Hug me!"

Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah
Posts: 76,813
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister
I'm just quoting Mark Cuban. Those were his words. Apparently you know the rules better than NBA owner.
He was at the right place at the right time. I loved his consternation. It rivaled Al Davis after the Tuck. Asking for Validation from Texas isn't allowed here.
watermock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2006, 11:54 PM   #1217
Clockwork Orange
Persona Non Grata
 
Clockwork Orange's Avatar
 
I seen him!

Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 21,352
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister
That wasn't the issue. The issue was that Wade had established himself in the frontcourt first. That was what Cuban said anyway.
Cuban's full of ****, but then what else is new.

Sour grapes.
Clockwork Orange is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2006, 11:54 PM   #1218
RhymesayersDU
Go Broncos, Nuggets, Rox
 
RhymesayersDU's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Back In The 303!
Posts: 15,022

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Ty Lawson
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=260513006

Dirk Nowitzki: 21-24 (team attempted 50) from the line
San Antonio 22-32 from the line

So was there some "home cookin'" going on in that game too?
Clockwork, you know better than to bring in actual facts when dealing with Mavs fans.
RhymesayersDU is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2006, 11:55 PM   #1219
-Slap-
Ring of Famer
 

Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 31,806
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RhymesayersDU
I'd actually want to look that call up, because it looked fishy to me at first.

Yes, you're allowed to catch the ball in the backcourt on an out of bounds, but Wade jumped from the front court and caught the ball in the backcourt. Not sure if that matters, but for argument's sake, if you were to catch the ball in the front court on an out of bounds play, you wouldn't be able to dribble it into the backcourt.

I don't know for sure on this, I think Wade was allowed to catch the ball in mid-air like he did because what matters is the ball, not the player, and the ball was never in the frount court, technically. But again, I'd have to look it up.
You explained it correctly just now. Had he dribbled into the backcourt, he would have turned over the ball. Running from the frontcourt to the backcourt to receive the pass was completely legal.
-Slap- is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2006, 11:57 PM   #1220
Clockwork Orange
Persona Non Grata
 
Clockwork Orange's Avatar
 
I seen him!

Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 21,352
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RhymesayersDU
Clockwork, you know better than to bring in actual facts when dealing with Mavs fans.
Just want to make sure that they're introduced at some point. The Mavs have benefitted from some pretty ticky tack officiating themselves at times in these playoffs, so they really don't have much room to complain.
Clockwork Orange is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2006, 11:58 PM   #1221
Breck Bronc
Roland Deschain
 
Breck Bronc's Avatar
 
The Gunslinger

Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 4,049
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkHorse30
The NBA is a joke.
Quoted for truth.
Breck Bronc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2006, 12:03 AM   #1222
Bob's your Information Minister
Chiefs > Broncos
 

Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 26,184

Adopt-a-Bronco:
CHRIS KUPER!!!
Default

This violation is being termed an "over and back" on the Mavs board.

BTW, yes Dirk shot 24 free throws. That wasn't as many as the entire Spurs team!
Bob's your Information Minister is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2006, 12:07 AM   #1223
Clockwork Orange
Persona Non Grata
 
Clockwork Orange's Avatar
 
I seen him!

Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 21,352
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister
This violation is being termed an "over and back" on the Mavs board.

BTW, yes Dirk shot 24 free throws. That wasn't as many as the entire Spurs team!
You found a board of homers like yourself? Awesome, go cry with them.

If you're looking for sympathy, check somewhere between $hit and syphilis in the dictionary. Loser.
Clockwork Orange is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2006, 12:09 AM   #1224
Pendejo
The off-season.
 
Pendejo's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 2,911

Adopt-a-Bronco:
"The Greek"
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister
This violation is being termed an "over and back" on the Mavs board.

BTW, yes Dirk shot 24 free throws. That wasn't as many as the entire Spurs team!
Which is completely wrong dumbass. You have to actually have the ball...cross over the half court line...and then go back over it.

You can run like the Chiefs from a playoffs victory in the front court...establish the hell out of yourself...and then receive the inbounds pass back at the other baseline and you're fine.

That rule is basic.
Pendejo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2006, 12:10 AM   #1225
Rulon Velvet Jones
You're not really here.
 
Rulon Velvet Jones's Avatar
 
Tight Butthole

Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 6,693

Adopt-a-Bronco:
Rent-A-DC
Default

It wasn't over and back at the end. You see that same kind of play all the time.

Now, if you want to talk about that last "foul" then we can talk.

I love it when the "players" aren't allowed to "play" and Game 5 of the mother****ing NBA FINALS is decided at the free throw line. So ballsy.
Rulon Velvet Jones is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes



Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:47 AM.


Denver Broncos