2006 NBA Finals: Miami Heat Vs. Dallas Mavericks - Page 41 - The Orange Mane

Clockwork Orange · 06-06-2006, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by angryllama

LeBron is definately his own player. He's an explosive power player that reminds me alot of Dominique Wilkins, but with more strength, unmatchable court vision, great ball handles, and a complete game. The kid is just a freak. He's like Nowitzki...there is no answer for what he brings. Whenever either of those guys decide to take control, there is nothing that an opponent can do about it. I think that they are the only two guys in the league that present that problem.

When it's all said and done, LeBron might be the best player of all-time.

The craziest thing about Lebron is that he had an NBA ready body when he was a senior in high school. A lot of kids have insane talent at that age (which he also had), but many of them are rail thin and need time to bulk up. Lebron was built like a brick house even before he set foot on an NBA floor, which is a serious rarity.

Northman · 06-06-2006, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

The craziest thing about Lebron is that he had an NBA ready body when he was a senior in high school. A lot of kids have insane talent at that age (which he also had), but many of them are rail thin and need time to bulk up. Lebron was built like a brick house even before he set foot on an NBA floor, which is a serious rarity.

Not only that but his demeanor is outstanding for a player as young as he is. He doesnt get caught up in the hype and seems to stay cool under the pressure. Thats the biggest shock for me.

epicSocialism4tw · 06-06-2006, 01:20 PM

James has the complete package, and then has the wow factor on top of that. If he ever becomes as driven as Jordan was, he should have no problem dominating the league.

epicSocialism4tw · 06-08-2006, 11:08 AM

Fans of the Dallas Mavericks, Miami Heat, and the NBA...the Finals are here. Tonight at 8pm, the Heat will challenge the Mavericks at American Airlines Center in Dallas. All of the DFW metroplex is abuzz with excitement and anticipation. There are stickers and flags on cars, "GO MAVS!" signs in yards and at businesses, talk radio is all-Mavs all-the-time. This event is huge in North Texas.

Let's get to the preview of Game 1....

1) Shaq will not dominate the series.
Shaq will have one or two games where he scores 30+ points and has 10-15 rebounds. He will be challenged to play defense in this series, and will be forced to run up and down the floor. If he's not able to keep up, I wouldnt be surprised to see him rendered useless for long stretches. Conventional "wisdom" says that you cant force Shaq to do anything, but if you take a look at his numbers in the playoffs and over the course of the regular season, you have to see that he only plays about 32-34 minutes a game. That means that he's on the bench for 14-16 minutes a game. That's a whole quarter and some change. Shaq's health is not what it used to be and a fast paced Dallas attack will run him into the floor. Mark my words, this series will not be about Shaq in reality, but it will be in the media. Well then, what will the series be about?

2) It's Dirk Nowitzki's time to shine.
Dirk has simply been the #1 player in the world during the playoffs. He's made legendary plays and had legendary games. It seems like it's just his year. In the pre-game interviews, I have heard a Nowitzki who has never been so confident and clearly focused. He has waited his life for this moment, and it sounds like he is going to take the bull by the horns.

Miami is depending on Udonis Haslem, James Posey, Antoine Walker, and Shandon Anderson to slow down Dirk. Take another look at that list. Is there anyone on there with the man-on-man skills of Shane Battier, Paul Gasol, Bruce Bowen, Tim Duncan, Shawn Marion, or Raja Bell? None of those guys could come close to containing Dirk in any way. Dirk's entire offensive game has remained in tact throughout the run of the playoffs and against every defender. I wouldnt expect any defender to handle Dirk for the Heat throughout the series. If Dirk has a bad game, it's Dirk's fault. With the timbre of his interviews, Dirk sounds ready to open up a can on Miami.

3) Rebounding.
Both teams will be reliant on their rebounding skills in this series. Miami will have to adjust to having Haslem, Walker, or Posey away from the rim on defense. One of them will be covering Nowitzki in the high post. Nowitzki's presence on the elbow with the ball opens up space for Dallas' outstanding rebounders to attack the offensive glass. Dampier, Howard, Griffin, and Van Horn will be called on to regain possession off of misses. Miami will have to have a VERY active Shaq under the basket. He'll have to box out, rebound, or block shots when Dallas' guards penetrate. With all of these angles closing on Shaq, I wouldnt be suprised to see him in foul trouble often throughout the series. Dallas is fast and athletic and will attack Shaq. Shaq cant be lazy for a minute or it will be a short series. Shaq is no Duncan.

epicSocialism4tw · 06-08-2006, 11:48 AM

NBA Finals Quiz:
http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/sports...?event_id=2213

I got 7 of 10.

Nuggets4 · 06-08-2006, 12:37 PM

9 out of 10. Damn 2003 Spurs.

CoopDawg · 06-08-2006, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister

Mavs are deeper, younger, and hungier.

The Heat are pretty hungry. Zo and Payton coming off the bench are both absolutely desperate to get a ring and have a sense of urgency. They know that this is probably their last chance to get the monkey off their back. Shaq wants to be able to prove to the Lakers his ability to win without Kobe. The franchise has never one a title and Pat Riley also wants to solidify his place in NBA lore. Along with other vetrans who haven't won it yet Walker, Williams, and Posey. That is not even mentioning Wade . . .

Sassy · 06-08-2006, 08:04 PM

This is a heck of a game...Not sure why I'm watching it though!

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Sassy · 06-08-2006, 08:06 PM

WHy do they have to show TO and ruin it?

...wearing a Heat jersey and Mavs cap...way to show love for Dallas!

Sassy · 06-08-2006, 08:46 PM

Dang...anyone watching this?
Even Wade is missing now...
3 pt. game

Bob's your Information Minister · 06-08-2006, 09:17 PM

Mavs clearly outclassed the Heat tonight. Image what they'll do if Howard and Dirk start playing.

Rulon Velvet Jones · 06-08-2006, 10:12 PM

The Leastern Conference rears its ugly head once again. Don't they teach these guys how to play basketball? Payton never leaves the perimeter. Wade has his 2-3 favorite spots on the floor (but is still a badass). Shaq does his thing. Walker couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. Where was all the hype for Miami? I didn't see it tonight.

epicSocialism4tw · 06-08-2006, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy

WHy do they have to show TO and ruin it?

...wearing a Heat jersey and Mavs cap...way to show love for Dallas!

The locals in the metroplex are in full Mav fever mode. This guy just made things worse for himself. Not very smart, but what do you expect from that guy?

freak6 · 06-09-2006, 09:50 AM

That was a really good game, the Mavs finally ran them out of the gym. That first quarter was kind of crazy, I told the gf that it wouldn't last, and as soon as the Heat cooled off it was over. But the Mavs should have blown them out in the 3rd, not the 4th.

I still don't get how anyone can let D.Wade go right, I would force him left EVERY time, you have to shade him to make him go left, otherwise he scores or gets the line, he is just to quick with that hesitation dribble. Other than that, the Mavs played pretty good.

Shaq missing free throws killed the Heat, nevertheless, if I'm Pat Riley, I get Shaq 50 touches on offense next game. It's thier only hope, the Mavs can't hold the big fella.

epicSocialism4tw · 06-09-2006, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by freak15

That was a really good game, the Mavs finally ran them out of the gym. That first quarter was kind of crazy, I told the gf that it wouldn't last, and as soon as the Heat cooled off it was over. But the Mavs should have blown them out in the 3rd, not the 4th.

I still don't get how anyone can let D.Wade go right, I would force him left EVERY time, you have to shade him to make him go left, otherwise he scores or gets the line, he is just to quick with that hesitation dribble. Other than that, the Mavs played pretty good.

Shaq missing free throws killed the Heat, nevertheless, if I'm Pat Riley, I get Shaq 50 touches on offense next game. It's thier only hope, the Mavs can't hold the big fella.

The opening quarter might have been the worst set of fortuitous events that could happen for Miami. When Antoine Walker is "feeling it", you might as well throw in the towel. With that said, a team is not going to shoot 60-70% for a series. You have to get stops and execute when it matters. Dallas was the team that executed when it mattered.

Nice observation on Wade. He really cant drive left at all. If you'll notice, every play that they set up is run for the strong side. After Wade's hot start, he ended up the game shooting well under 50% at 11-25.

Shaq is going to miss his free throws. That's just part of Shaq's game. He's a worse foul shooter than Dampier. On that note, Shaq got several touches against Dampier and Diop. He just wasnt shooting. He would look to set up the offense from the post and try to dish off from the block to cutters or back out to the perimeter. He was able to get where he wanted against Diop, but had a tougher time against Damp. By the fourth quarter, Shaq was having to battle for position against Damp farther and farther from the basket. Shaq ran out of gas because the Mavs made him work.

The Big E · 06-09-2006, 10:35 AM

I think Miami blew a good chance to take a game, and since they didn't, they're in trouble. The Mavs can play a lot better, and I suspect they'll come out more relaxed and confident in Game 2, and play at a higher level.

It was surprising that Dallas ended the half ahead, considering the way they came out of the gate. Terry did a great job of carrying them when the rest of the team was tossing up bricks.

epicSocialism4tw · 06-09-2006, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by The Big E

It was surprising that Dallas ended the half ahead, considering the way they came out of the gate. Terry did a great job of carrying them when the rest of the team was tossing up bricks.

No doubt...I'm still having nightmares of Josh Howard setting up for open jumpers.

freak6 · 06-09-2006, 10:58 AM

Wade can go left, but he rarely uses his left hand to shoot or lay the ball in. When forced left, he often will jab step to create space because he is right handed and then shoot a fading jumper that you can challenge and he is inconsistent with. If he does go left hard to the rim you have help defense there, it's just crazy to play him straight up like Harris was trying to do. As a defender you have got to take the advantage away from him, and force him to his weakside.

Totally agree on Walker, that guy was getting lucky in the first quarter, that buzzer beater was a joke, I wasn't even concerned with that large lead in the first.

I don't think Shaq ran out of gas last night, I think that the Heat didn't go to him enough consistently. I was pretty suprised at the turnovers the Mavs had, Howard had me scratching my head.

When Avery Johnson told them "It's about team, team team team, trust your teammates" they really got it, started moving the ball around again, bang Terry gets a couple open looks because the Mavs made the extra pass, and the lead grew. I was impressed by that. It was simple, but what he said seemed to have sunk in and played out on the floor.

epicSocialism4tw · 06-09-2006, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by freak15

When Avery Johnson told them "It's about team, team team team, trust your teammates" they really got it, started moving the ball around again, bang Terry gets a couple open looks because the Mavs made the extra pass, and the lead grew. I was impressed by that. It was simple, but what he said seemed to have sunk in and played out on the floor.

That's been the story of the season. Dallas has played team ball all season long. When the team struggles to score, Dirk has taken the bull by the Horns and put them over the edge. Terry did that for Dirk last night. Great game by Jet. He's a good guy and you love to see good guys come out shining.

Shaq touched the ball on at least 75% of the posessions he was on the floor. The problem with Shaq is that he needs alot of rest now. If you play him 40 minutes, he's useless in the fourth. Also, Riley is going to try to get Wade going too and you need to isolate Wade to get him to the basket. That's going to keep the ball out of Shaq's hands. Shaq needs to do more than just score though. Nowitzki had an equally poor scoring outing and still contributed by getting in passing lanes and running at shooters on defense. He set some guys up for easy buckets and rebounded well. Shaq has to do those types of things for the Heat to win. Dallas' guards are going to sprint right by Miami's perimeter defenders. Shaq has to block shots without fouling, or make people miss in there and then rebound the ball. It looks like he and Riley are saving his energy for the offensive end though. If that's the case and Shaq cant be a two-way player (and cant play more than 35 minutes), then Miami is in trouble. Dallas has two strong bigs that will make him work on offense, and make him worry about boxing out on the defensive end too.

Sassy · 06-09-2006, 04:03 PM

Wade, Shaq and the Heat had the opportunities...they just couldn't cash in at the end. The Mav D came to play.

epicSocialism4tw · 06-10-2006, 10:04 AM

Dirk smashes O'Neal:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrQzR...irk%20nowitzki

Bob's your Information Minister · 06-11-2006, 07:34 PM

StackHOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSE!

JAPS · 06-11-2006, 07:44 PM

Stackhouse on fire, you gotta be kidding me. Such is life for le Heat

ZachKC · 06-11-2006, 07:58 PM

Hahahaha

WaffleBoy · 06-11-2006, 08:03 PM

Where the hell is D-Wade at? 2 shots attempts in the last period of game 1 when the score stayed at 79-84. This game, D-Wade is still on 7 shot attempts.

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06-06-2006, 01:20 PM	#1003
epicSocialism4tw Tebowing the long haul all the way to the title Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: TX, USA Posts: 37,072 Adopt-a-Bronco: Champ Bailey	James has the complete package, and then has the wow factor on top of that. If he ever becomes as driven as Jordan was, he should have no problem dominating the league.

06-08-2006, 11:08 AM	#1004
epicSocialism4tw Tebowing the long haul all the way to the title Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: TX, USA Posts: 37,072 Adopt-a-Bronco: Champ Bailey	Fans of the Dallas Mavericks, Miami Heat, and the NBA...the Finals are here. Tonight at 8pm, the Heat will challenge the Mavericks at American Airlines Center in Dallas. All of the DFW metroplex is abuzz with excitement and anticipation. There are stickers and flags on cars, "GO MAVS!" signs in yards and at businesses, talk radio is all-Mavs all-the-time. This event is huge in North Texas. Let's get to the preview of Game 1.... 1) Shaq will not dominate the series. Shaq will have one or two games where he scores 30+ points and has 10-15 rebounds. He will be challenged to play defense in this series, and will be forced to run up and down the floor. If he's not able to keep up, I wouldnt be surprised to see him rendered useless for long stretches. Conventional "wisdom" says that you cant force Shaq to do anything, but if you take a look at his numbers in the playoffs and over the course of the regular season, you have to see that he only plays about 32-34 minutes a game. That means that he's on the bench for 14-16 minutes a game. That's a whole quarter and some change. Shaq's health is not what it used to be and a fast paced Dallas attack will run him into the floor. Mark my words, this series will not be about Shaq in reality, but it will be in the media. Well then, what will the series be about? 2) It's Dirk Nowitzki's time to shine. Dirk has simply been the #1 player in the world during the playoffs. He's made legendary plays and had legendary games. It seems like it's just his year. In the pre-game interviews, I have heard a Nowitzki who has never been so confident and clearly focused. He has waited his life for this moment, and it sounds like he is going to take the bull by the horns. Miami is depending on Udonis Haslem, James Posey, Antoine Walker, and Shandon Anderson to slow down Dirk. Take another look at that list. Is there anyone on there with the man-on-man skills of Shane Battier, Paul Gasol, Bruce Bowen, Tim Duncan, Shawn Marion, or Raja Bell? None of those guys could come close to containing Dirk in any way. Dirk's entire offensive game has remained in tact throughout the run of the playoffs and against every defender. I wouldnt expect any defender to handle Dirk for the Heat throughout the series. If Dirk has a bad game, it's Dirk's fault. With the timbre of his interviews, Dirk sounds ready to open up a can on Miami. 3) Rebounding. Both teams will be reliant on their rebounding skills in this series. Miami will have to adjust to having Haslem, Walker, or Posey away from the rim on defense. One of them will be covering Nowitzki in the high post. Nowitzki's presence on the elbow with the ball opens up space for Dallas' outstanding rebounders to attack the offensive glass. Dampier, Howard, Griffin, and Van Horn will be called on to regain possession off of misses. Miami will have to have a VERY active Shaq under the basket. He'll have to box out, rebound, or block shots when Dallas' guards penetrate. With all of these angles closing on Shaq, I wouldnt be suprised to see him in foul trouble often throughout the series. Dallas is fast and athletic and will attack Shaq. Shaq cant be lazy for a minute or it will be a short series. Shaq is no Duncan.

06-08-2006, 11:48 AM	#1005
epicSocialism4tw Tebowing the long haul all the way to the title Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: TX, USA Posts: 37,072 Adopt-a-Bronco: Champ Bailey	NBA Finals Quiz: http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/sports...?event_id=2213 I got 7 of 10.

06-08-2006, 12:37 PM	#1006
Nuggets4 Requisite Nugs Die-Hard Buffaloes, Buffaloes, Go C-U! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 4,360 Adopt-a-Bronco: Allen Iverson	9 out of 10. Damn 2003 Spurs.

06-08-2006, 08:04 PM	#1008
Sassy Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Location: ND Posts: 37,952 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eddie Royal	This is a heck of a game...Not sure why I'm watching it though! !

06-08-2006, 08:06 PM	#1009
Sassy Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Location: ND Posts: 37,952 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eddie Royal	WHy do they have to show TO and ruin it? ...wearing a Heat jersey and Mavs cap...way to show love for Dallas!

06-08-2006, 08:46 PM	#1010
Sassy Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Location: ND Posts: 37,952 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eddie Royal	Dang...anyone watching this? Even Wade is missing now... 3 pt. game

06-08-2006, 09:17 PM	#1011
Bob's your Information Minister Chiefs > Broncos Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 25,918 Adopt-a-Bronco: CHRIS KUPER!!!	Mavs clearly outclassed the Heat tonight. Image what they'll do if Howard and Dirk start playing.

06-08-2006, 10:12 PM	#1012
Rulon Velvet Jones You're not really here. Tight Butthole Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 6,597 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rent-A-DC	The Leastern Conference rears its ugly head once again. Don't they teach these guys how to play basketball? Payton never leaves the perimeter. Wade has his 2-3 favorite spots on the floor (but is still a badass). Shaq does his thing. Walker couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. Where was all the hype for Miami? I didn't see it tonight.

06-09-2006, 09:50 AM	#1014
freak6 3,631 - WAKE UP!!!! Impeach President Cheney and Puppet Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,651 Adopt-a-Bronco: MJK	That was a really good game, the Mavs finally ran them out of the gym. That first quarter was kind of crazy, I told the gf that it wouldn't last, and as soon as the Heat cooled off it was over. But the Mavs should have blown them out in the 3rd, not the 4th. I still don't get how anyone can let D.Wade go right, I would force him left EVERY time, you have to shade him to make him go left, otherwise he scores or gets the line, he is just to quick with that hesitation dribble. Other than that, the Mavs played pretty good. Shaq missing free throws killed the Heat, nevertheless, if I'm Pat Riley, I get Shaq 50 touches on offense next game. It's thier only hope, the Mavs can't hold the big fella.

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06-09-2006, 10:35 AM	#1016
The Big E Ring of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hermosa Beach Posts: 1,910	I think Miami blew a good chance to take a game, and since they didn't, they're in trouble. The Mavs can play a lot better, and I suspect they'll come out more relaxed and confident in Game 2, and play at a higher level. It was surprising that Dallas ended the half ahead, considering the way they came out of the gate. Terry did a great job of carrying them when the rest of the team was tossing up bricks.

06-09-2006, 10:58 AM	#1018
freak6 3,631 - WAKE UP!!!! Impeach President Cheney and Puppet Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,651 Adopt-a-Bronco: MJK	Wade can go left, but he rarely uses his left hand to shoot or lay the ball in. When forced left, he often will jab step to create space because he is right handed and then shoot a fading jumper that you can challenge and he is inconsistent with. If he does go left hard to the rim you have help defense there, it's just crazy to play him straight up like Harris was trying to do. As a defender you have got to take the advantage away from him, and force him to his weakside. Totally agree on Walker, that guy was getting lucky in the first quarter, that buzzer beater was a joke, I wasn't even concerned with that large lead in the first. I don't think Shaq ran out of gas last night, I think that the Heat didn't go to him enough consistently. I was pretty suprised at the turnovers the Mavs had, Howard had me scratching my head. When Avery Johnson told them "It's about team, team team team, trust your teammates" they really got it, started moving the ball around again, bang Terry gets a couple open looks because the Mavs made the extra pass, and the lead grew. I was impressed by that. It was simple, but what he said seemed to have sunk in and played out on the floor.

06-09-2006, 04:03 PM	#1020
Sassy Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Location: ND Posts: 37,952 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eddie Royal	Wade, Shaq and the Heat had the opportunities...they just couldn't cash in at the end. The Mav D came to play.

06-10-2006, 10:04 AM	#1021
epicSocialism4tw Tebowing the long haul all the way to the title Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: TX, USA Posts: 37,072 Adopt-a-Bronco: Champ Bailey	Dirk smashes O'Neal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrQzR...irk%20nowitzki

06-11-2006, 07:34 PM	#1022
Bob's your Information Minister Chiefs > Broncos Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 25,918 Adopt-a-Bronco: CHRIS KUPER!!!	StackHOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSE!

06-11-2006, 07:44 PM	#1023
JAPS Solid Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 117	Stackhouse on fire, you gotta be kidding me. Such is life for le Heat

06-11-2006, 07:58 PM	#1024
ZachKC For The Glory Of The City Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Kansas City Posts: 9,665 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eddie Kennison	Hahahaha

06-11-2006, 08:03 PM	#1025
WaffleBoy A "House" Guest Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: University Posts: 4,565	Where the hell is D-Wade at? 2 shots attempts in the last period of game 1 when the score stayed at 79-84. This game, D-Wade is still on 7 shot attempts. The Boy Wonder