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Old 05-23-2006, 03:28 PM   #651
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I'd like to hear your definition of what it takes to be a "superstar" before I argue this any further.

There's nothing to argue about, its my opinion vs yours. Simple as that.
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Old 05-23-2006, 03:29 PM   #652
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Ive watched plenty of games. Still have the same opinion. But continue to cry about it im sure someone will feel your plight.
I'm not crying about anything. You continue to prove you don't watch the games by every post you make. Duncan had a great series and anyone who watched it would know that.
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Old 05-23-2006, 03:30 PM   #653
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There's nothing to argue about, its my opinion vs yours. Simple as that.
It's more than just your opinion. I'll use your definition to gauge your basketball knowledge.
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Old 05-23-2006, 03:31 PM   #654
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It's more than just your opinion. I'll use your definition to gauge your basketball knowledge.

And somehow that will make you a expert?

Go ahead, give me your definition since you seem to be the final word on everything.
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A superstar is a guy that is above the game and can take things over at will. You can put anyone on him you'd want and he'd still overcome. He gets the ball and leads his team in the most adverse situations and still has a positive effect. He's also marketable as most of a guy's superstar status is how he's perceived by the fans and the media.
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A superstar is a guy that is above the game and can take things over at will. You can put anyone on him you'd want and he'd still overcome. He gets the ball and leads his team in the most adverse situations and still has a positive effect. He's also marketable as most of a guy's superstar status is how he's perceived by the fans and the media.

And you feel that Dirk can take over at any time and pull out a win even though he didnt show it in game 6. Most of what you said i agree with but i havent seen Dirk take control of any game and i point to game 6 cause that was the game they really needed him to step up in. I believe i read somewhere on here that Dirk blasted his team in the media. If that is true that isnt how a Superstar behaves either. Again, i cant stress it enough. Dirk is a GOOD player but not a Superstar, not yet. Maybe he will become one before the season is over but i havent seen anything to show me he can take over a game.
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Old 05-23-2006, 03:48 PM   #657
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Ya, i usually do.
here's what i was quoting for truth...from ro_50's quote directly above mine:

Bob, you are an idiot.

you cant even comprehend in your brain because its not that big BOB.

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sorry for the confusion.

but let me reitterate...Bob, you are an idiot. with a brain incapable of comprehending mundane factoids. you idiot
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Old 05-23-2006, 03:52 PM   #658
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I still want to know what Ginobili was thinking when he fouled Dirk. Isn't it pretty much a given that you do anything BUT FOUL in that situation? Very bad play, especially for someone with his experience.

I didn't see or hear Popovich's reaction, but he must've been ready to pop a vessel.
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And you feel that Dirk can take over at any time and pull out a win even though he didnt show it in game 6. Most of what you said i agree with but i havent seen Dirk take control of any game and i point to game 6 cause that was the game they really needed him to step up in. I believe i read somewhere on here that Dirk blasted his team in the media. If that is true that isnt how a Superstar behaves either. Again, i cant stress it enough. Dirk is a GOOD player but not a Superstar, not yet. Maybe he will become one before the season is over but i havent seen anything to show me he can take over a game.
he did a pretty good job of sending the game to OT in the clinching game 7
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Few things-

Dirk didn't blast his team in the media. He questioned Stack's decision at the end of game 3, but it certainly wasn't blasting him.

I don't feel it's fair to dog Dirk for his G6 performance. He went balls-out without his starting PG. If you want to talk about a game where he really needed to step it up - I'll refer you to the last seconds of last night's game. Dirk doesn't make that drive and the Mavs are fishing today. He's been clutch all season long and is at the top of the list of players whose numbers are exceptional in clutch situations.

I'll guess we can go around on this for days so we'll agree to disagree. But I'll say that looking at the game today (2006 season), Dirk is a top 5 player and certainly fits into the "superstar" mold.
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Considering your hockey guarantees, I'm going to go put money on the Mavs now.
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he did a pretty good job of sending the game to OT in the clinching game 7

he also did that with his starting point guard who i think is far more valuable for that team. As Rulon said, its just a matter of opinion so we have to agree to disagree. I never said Dirk wont ever become a Superstar i just dont feel he derserves that status right now.
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Old 05-23-2006, 04:12 PM   #663
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Considering your hockey guarantees, I'm going to go put money on the Mavs now.
Go ahead. Need I say that Nash owns the Mavs ever since they didn't sign him back.
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Old 05-23-2006, 04:13 PM   #664
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And you feel that Dirk can take over at any time and pull out a win even though he didnt show it in game 6. Most of what you said i agree with but i havent seen Dirk take control of any game and i point to game 6 cause that was the game they really needed him to step up in. I believe i read somewhere on here that Dirk blasted his team in the media. If that is true that isnt how a Superstar behaves either. Again, i cant stress it enough. Dirk is a GOOD player but not a Superstar, not yet. Maybe he will become one before the season is over but i havent seen anything to show me he can take over a game.
According to your guidelines, nobody is or ever was a superstar because every player loses some games.

I doubt the Mavs would have been in any position to win game 6 if it had been Dirk that suspended instead of Terry.
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Old 05-23-2006, 04:14 PM   #665
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I still want to know what Ginobili was thinking when he fouled Dirk. Isn't it pretty much a given that you do anything BUT FOUL in that situation? Very bad play, especially for someone with his experience.

I didn't see or hear Popovich's reaction, but he must've been ready to pop a vessel.
Huge mental error by Ginobli. If you're up three points, you give them as many 2-pointers as they want. I still can't believe he seriously thought he was going to block Dirk.
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Mavs match up very well with the Suns.

They can play small ball, run with them, and score with them.

As usual the opposing teams best player will "get his". I expect Dirk to go for over 30 a game, and Terry over 20 a game. But, in order to win, others have to contribute, and thats where the Suns gotta take them out.

Jones and House gotta play better too, they sucked it up vs. the Clips.
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I still want to know what Ginobili was thinking when he fouled Dirk. Isn't it pretty much a given that you do anything BUT FOUL in that situation? Very bad play, especially for someone with his experience.

I didn't see or hear Popovich's reaction, but he must've been ready to pop a vessel.
He wanted to, you could tell, but all he did was nod. And then the reporter had the gall to say, "so did you", Pop - "Nodding my head means yes!"

- you could tell he wanted to explode!
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He wanted to, you could tell, but all he did was nod. And then the reporter had the gall to say, "so did you", Pop - "Nodding my head means yes!"

- you could tell he wanted to explode!
I've never really liked the Spurs, but I've grown to really like Pop. He's a no-BS guy who pretty much calls things the way they are, and I think he reacts to things the way most of probably would.
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Old 05-23-2006, 05:22 PM   #669
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The Suns are going to win this series. The Mavericks like to spread the court and play small ball and who plays small ball better than the Suns? The Mavs can't go big in this series because Diop and Dampier can't guard Diaw's drives and Tim Thomas's outside shot. So they are rendered useless for this series.

So to match the Sun's the Mavs have to cut their rotation. Terry, Daniels, Dirk, Howard, Harris, Stackhouse, and Van Horn are going to get all the run. That makes 7 guys in their rotation with Diop/Damp getting spots minutes to matchup with Kurt Thomas incase he actually plays.

Nash matches up with Terry
Bell matches up with Daniels
T.Thomas matches up with Notwitzki
Marion matches up with Howard

And that leaves Diaw with a major advantage on whoever gaurds him. Stack, Harris, and Van Horn are all going to have trouble with this guy.

I like the Suns in six. With atleast two blowouts along the way.

This is simply a bad matchup for the Mavs.

You're forgetting about Devin Harris. This is the series where he shines. The Spurs defense was too much for him, but Phoenix can't play defense.

The Mavs are the better defensive team across the board. They win. And they will DESTROY Phoenix on the boards.
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A sweep eh? I highly doubt it, but the Mavs are the better team. If Phx can shoot the ball well, they do have a real shot tho.
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The Mavs just won the biggest playoff series in the history of that franchise and all you can do is think about me? Wow.

Just be happy the Mavs won because you would have looked foolish jumping on the Heat's bandwagon. Not that you don't look foolish already considering you jumped off the Bulls bandwagon to join the Mavs.

I mean you are not even a real fan. You just became a Mavs fan after the Bulls fell on hard times. That's like Taco John leaving the Broncos for the Patriots because Denver wasn't winning.

The one post in which you tried to front like you were a fan and talk about the history of the Mavs was filled with inaccuracies. I had to correct YOU on the history of the Mavs. And I'm not even a fan of the team!

Rulon Velvet is the only poster here who has been pimpin' the Mavs. You just joined this year. You are a joke. Mavs fan my ass.
Scoreboard.

HAAAAAAA!!!!!!!

37 and 15, baby with the most important bucket of the playoffs. Do us all a favor and put yourself on hiatus. You obviously have zero basketball knowledge, and are nothing but a bigoted fool.

With that, you go on ignore.

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And you feel that Dirk can take over at any time and pull out a win even though he didnt show it in game 6. Most of what you said i agree with but i havent seen Dirk take control of any game and i point to game 6 cause that was the game they really needed him to step up in. I believe i read somewhere on here that Dirk blasted his team in the media. If that is true that isnt how a Superstar behaves either. Again, i cant stress it enough. Dirk is a GOOD player but not a Superstar, not yet. Maybe he will become one before the season is over but i havent seen anything to show me he can take over a game.
Anubis, it looks like you only saw one part of one game. Dirk had an absolutely phenomenal series. I saw every game. I saw him close out two wins with plays in the clutch. I also saw him pull off an impossible and-1 to send the Mavs back from the depths of a loss, and give them the momentum they needed to put the game away in OT. Even the notorious Spurs homer Steve Kerr commented on how great of a clutch player he is, calling him one of the modern game's elite clutch players.

When you're team is down by three after a dagger three pointer by a great playoff performer in a game 7 on the road in what amounts to the Western Conference Finals, and you post up that team's best individual defender and blow by him on the way to the bucket in an amazing play that results in a basket and a free throw and 3 points to tie it up, then you block Tim "the best player of his era" Duncan's putback layup attempt at the buzzer at the other end to seal the tie to cap off your ridiculous 37 point/15 rebound night where you were completely unstoppable (again), you are a superstar and a clutch player.

Dirk has been the best player in the playoffs. I'm sure that many around he NBA would agree with that statement.

Also...Did you say that Tim Duncan had a bad series? ARE YOU INSANE? That might have been the best I've ever seen Duncan play. He played so well that I thought Pop and he might have lied about his foot problems all season. The guy was unstoppable against two excellent post defenders. I think that your Mav hate has blinded you to the fact that Duncan played against a great team, and that Duncan's team was great too. That series was truly an all-time great battle. Great play after great play, great players doing unbelievable things in every game but one. Duncan said that that series was the best basketball that he's ever been a part of. Basketball at it's highest level. That says alot coming from a playoff veteran and champion like Duncan.
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Here's a nice way to start it off...remember, see your pastor or a professional if things get too heavy for ya ...

http://www2.mysanantonio.com/multime...=nod&ids=38177

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