Holding McNair Hostage in Memphis - The Orange Mane

watermock · 05-04-2006, 09:22 AM

This is absurd. Watching McNair being treated this way by the Titans is criminal. The guy was the icon of the team and is kicked out of the facility and then held hostage in the hope that Billick will cave?

WTF are they thinking. Billick knows that the Titans will have to release him. That's completely disrespectful to a QB that a few years ago was tied I think for the MVP or seriously considered. The guy picked himself up off the carpet when he could of layed down. I'm not very pleased with his treatment, and to think Billick the liar is going to blink is totally naive.

I think they are in Memphis, maybe it's Nashville. Don't care. I know Nashville is nice and Memphis is a pit tho.

Jesterhole · 05-04-2006, 09:29 AM

Agreed. The Titans organization has no class. I used to respect them...now they are just a bunch of punks. You don't treat a guy like Steve McNair like that.

Hogan11 · 05-04-2006, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Jesterhole

Agreed. The Titans organization has no class. I used to respect them...now they are just a bunch of punks. You don't treat a guy like Steve McNair like that.

The Titans are owned by Bud Adams......"class" is a concept that's totally foreign to that guy. It is dispicable to see McNair being treated this way after literally being pounded into a pulp season after season and leaving everything the guy had on the field year in and year out.

Rascal · 05-04-2006, 09:41 AM

I just don't want to see McNair go to Baltimore. If that happens they become dramatically improved.

Garcia Bronco · 05-04-2006, 09:59 AM

I think they're doing the right thing. They don't have to cut him, and Balt is either in their divison and definately in their conference. Switch the team names to Chiefs and Broncos..and then tell me how you feel about it. McNair has not had a career of note...his 15 were up a long time ago.

Broncoman13 · 05-04-2006, 10:04 AM

If I were Tenn I'd do the exact same thing. The Ravens aren't a favorite of anybody in the AFC... nobody really cares for them! Shanny and Jeff (Fisher) are friends, I wouldn't be suprised if Shanny is in his ear saying, the longer you hold on to Steve the less time he has to pick up the offense in Baltimore. I know that "Air" McNair is a class act and isn't getting the best deal from Tenn. But, this is a business and sometimes business gets ugly. Speaking of which, I need to go do some ugly business... in the bathroom! In other words, I'm going to go take a Boob and wipe my Crazyhorse!

watermock · 05-04-2006, 10:10 AM

Baloney. The fact is they can't sign Ty Law because they are sitting on a contract everyone knows they wont honor. Saying McNair hasn't had a career of note is absurd.

Garcia Bronco · 05-04-2006, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by watermock

Saying McNair hasn't had a career of note is absurd.

You're correct...he is also known as "Captain Questonable".

Arkansas Bronco · 05-04-2006, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by watermock

I think they are in Memphis, maybe it's Nashville. Don't care. I know Nashville is nice and Memphis is a pit tho.

The Titans are in Nashville.

watermock · 05-04-2006, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by OSKIE

If I were Tenn I'd do the exact same thing. The Ravens aren't a favorite of anybody in the AFC... nobody really cares for them! Shanny and Jeff (Fisher) are friends, I wouldn't be suprised if Shanny is in his ear saying, the longer you hold on to Steve the less time he has to pick up the offense in Baltimore. I know that "Air" McNair is a class act and isn't getting the best deal from Tenn. But, this is a business and sometimes business gets ugly. Speaking of which, I need to go do some ugly business... in the bathroom! In other words, I'm going to go take a Boob and wipe my Crazyhorse!

First, Fisher doesn't call the shots or shouldn't, the conversation was about Cutler. It's irrelevant if anyone likes the Titans honestly. I doubt any conversation ever happened regarding McNair between the two. It's a business, but it's also a situation where it's obvious he is out, and he should be allowed to leave, alot more than Lelie. Picking up an offense wouldn't be a problem for McNair, it's just vindictive hoarding. I will refrain real comment.

Just let him go for christ sake. This guy is one, two years away max. When Jake is set to pasture, we might get something, but we certainly won't hold him back. Lelie is a totally different matter.

bendog · 05-04-2006, 10:24 AM

Hey, Lelei to Tenn for McNair, and then WE hold billick up! Worst, we have a backup QB, and we get rid of the Bradlee (-:

Ballhawk · 05-04-2006, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by bendog

Hey, Lelei to Tenn for McNair, and then WE hold billick up! Worst, we have a backup QB, and we get rid of the Bradlee (-:

Do we have 9 mil in cap room lol Only way it works if if McNair agrees to restructure. Will not even need to do that if he is cut.

Garcia Bronco · 05-04-2006, 11:34 AM

Some could contend that McNair's injured ways have keep the Titans hostage for years now.

Killericon · 05-04-2006, 01:33 PM

As much as I hate the Titans front office for doing this, I can't help but be mad a McNair too, for not taking the salary cut. I mean, he is not worth what he is gonna get paid anymore. He just is'nt. Both sides have no class, or essense of Loyalty. If McNair were loyal to teh team, he'd take the but to stick around. If the Front office were Loyal to their One-Tme Co-MVP Franchise QB, they'd pay him what they said they would.

I, personally, would be much happier if McNair stayed, and Volek hit the FA market.

Just so you guys know, I don't think Jeff Fisher is behind this. I think that if he had the checkbook, there would'nt be any of this ****.

listopencil · 05-04-2006, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by killericon

Just so you guys know, I don't think Jeff Fisher is behind this. I think that if he had the checkbook, there would'nt be any of this ****.

Yeah, that was my thinking. Fisher seems like a pretty stand-up guy. I think somoeone was speculating ('mock?) about Fisher losing influence in the organization around draft time.

bendog · 05-04-2006, 02:12 PM

yeah, fisher seems like a good guy. And, you're right McNair should take a cut, but I suspect he doesn't want to be a titan, where he'd be on the bench or killed again with that team, when he can start for Balt, where that team could be a superbowl contender. But, imo, McNair's about done. It's like that talk about Marino playing on. I think the guys wheels are shot, and he doesn't have a season left.

ps, what deal did volek sign? was it like last offseason he hit the FA market but decided to stay. Is he locked up long term? If so, what a screw job. He thought he'd get a shot at the job, only to see VY drafted. The titans are gonna let him take a pounding while they rebuild, and then give the keys to VY?

Broncoman13 · 05-04-2006, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by watermock

First, Fisher doesn't call the shots or shouldn't, the conversation was about Cutler. It's irrelevant if anyone likes the Titans honestly. I doubt any conversation ever happened regarding McNair between the two. It's a business, but it's also a situation where it's obvious he is out, and he should be allowed to leave, alot more than Lelie. Picking up an offense wouldn't be a problem for McNair, it's just vindictive hoarding. I will refrain real comment.

Just let him go for christ sake. This guy is one, two years away max. When Jake is set to pasture, we might get something, but we certainly won't hold him back. Lelie is a totally different matter.

You don't get it... yes, McNair can probably pick up an offense fairly quickly. If you give him time to get a playbook, review the formations, and then get him on the field with your WR's to develop some timing. Don't know if you noticed, but both the Titans and Ravens are in the AFC. That means, they could be competing for a playoff spot with one and other. The Titans probably look at this situation and say, hey, the longer we keep McNair out of Baltimore the less productive he'll be to start the season and the better our chances of earning a playoff spot before them. I'd almost bet my bottom dollar that if we were talking about the Washington Redskins instead of the Baltimore Ravens, McNair would be released... or even traded by now. Ravens offered a 5th, Tennessee said no, we want a 4th. If they would have offered a 4th they would have required a 3rd. This was the plan all along. Keep him out of Balt. as long as possible so that he can't get that extra work with the playbook and new receivers. It's not that hard to figure out genius. Look at it from a business and competitive side instead of with your passionate side and it will make better sense for you.

GonzoLays · 05-04-2006, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by OSKIE

You don't get it... yes, McNair can probably pick up an offense fairly quickly. If you give him time to get a playbook, review the formations, and then get him on the field with your WR's to develop some timing. Don't know if you noticed, but both the Titans and Ravens are in the AFC. That means, they could be competing for a playoff spot with one and other. The Titans probably look at this situation and say, hey, the longer we keep McNair out of Baltimore the less productive he'll be to start the season and the better our chances of earning a playoff spot before them. I'd almost bet my bottom dollar that if we were talking about the Washington Redskins instead of the Baltimore Ravens, McNair would be released... or even traded by now. Ravens offered a 5th, Tennessee said no, we want a 4th. If they would have offered a 4th they would have required a 3rd. This was the plan all along. Keep him out of Balt. as long as possible so that he can't get that extra work with the playbook and new receivers. It's not that hard to figure out genius. Look at it from a business and competitive side instead of with your passionate side and it will make better sense for you.

That has nothing to do with it. Tenneessee won four(?) games last year with Steve McNair. They have done nothing of note in free agency and they are going to lose their franchise QB in free agency. Only a baffoon would believe that team is competing for the playoffs next season. With that in mind, I'm sure this is just posturing on Tennessee's part to get a higher draft pick from Baltimore or any other mystery team that might jump into the fray. They don't want McNair to walk away scotch free when a team is already showing interest in him. Baltimore probably low balled the Titans after they selected Vince Young and Tenneessee called their bluff. It will be interesting to see what happens from here.

Bronco in TN. · 05-04-2006, 05:34 PM

Wow. It's really amazing how some folks can completey not understand the situation. The team is not doing anything wrong and they aren't the only team to keep a player out of the training facility. It's not like he can't enter the building. Geesh. They just don't want him working out there. If he injures himself they are on the hook for 24 MILLION dollars this season and he'll have no trade value if they can't get something worked out.

Baltimore probably low balled the Titans after they selected Vince Young and Tenneessee called their bluff. It will be interesting to see what happens from here.

Actually the trade talks were going on BEFORE the pick. The Ravens offered a very late round pick and Reese refused to let him go for that crappy of a pick.

Reese is sitting down with his agent and they are going to try to hammer something out. Apparantly the Baltimore talk is now dead.

They have done nothing of note in free agency and they are going to lose their franchise QB in free agency.

David Givens
Chris Hope
David Thornton

thebroncosnation · 05-04-2006, 05:51 PM

Guys, the radio talk shows down here are saying that they are holding off on doing anything in hopes that he changes his mind about leaving. All they show on tv is shots of VY calling McNair his Dad, or saying he is like a father to him. They figure the longer he is here the softer his stance will be.

05-04-2006, 09:22 AM	#1
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	Holding McNair Hostage in Memphis This is absurd. Watching McNair being treated this way by the Titans is criminal. The guy was the icon of the team and is kicked out of the facility and then held hostage in the hope that Billick will cave? WTF are they thinking. Billick knows that the Titans will have to release him. That's completely disrespectful to a QB that a few years ago was tied I think for the MVP or seriously considered. The guy picked himself up off the carpet when he could of layed down. I'm not very pleased with his treatment, and to think Billick the liar is going to blink is totally naive. I think they are in Memphis, maybe it's Nashville. Don't care. I know Nashville is nice and Memphis is a pit tho. Last edited by watermock; 05-04-2006 at 10:07 AM..

05-04-2006, 02:12 PM	#16
bendog Marginally Continent David Bowens, he'd be an upgrade Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Folsom Prison Posts: 19,935 Adopt-a-Bronco: David Bowens	yeah, fisher seems like a good guy. And, you're right McNair should take a cut, but I suspect he doesn't want to be a titan, where he'd be on the bench or killed again with that team, when he can start for Balt, where that team could be a superbowl contender. But, imo, McNair's about done. It's like that talk about Marino playing on. I think the guys wheels are shot, and he doesn't have a season left. ps, what deal did volek sign? was it like last offseason he hit the FA market but decided to stay. Is he locked up long term? If so, what a screw job. He thought he'd get a shot at the job, only to see VY drafted. The titans are gonna let him take a pounding while they rebuild, and then give the keys to VY? Last edited by bendog; 05-04-2006 at 02:15 PM..

05-04-2006, 05:34 PM	#19
Bronco in TN. Solid Starter Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: TN Posts: 120	Wow. It's really amazing how some folks can completey not understand the situation. The team is not doing anything wrong and they aren't the only team to keep a player out of the training facility. It's not like he can't enter the building. Geesh. They just don't want him working out there. If he injures himself they are on the hook for 24 MILLION dollars this season and he'll have no trade value if they can't get something worked out. Baltimore probably low balled the Titans after they selected Vince Young and Tenneessee called their bluff. It will be interesting to see what happens from here. Actually the trade talks were going on BEFORE the pick. The Ravens offered a very late round pick and Reese refused to let him go for that crappy of a pick. Reese is sitting down with his agent and they are going to try to hammer something out. Apparantly the Baltimore talk is now dead. They have done nothing of note in free agency and they are going to lose their franchise QB in free agency. David Givens Chris Hope David Thornton Last edited by Bronco in TN.; 05-04-2006 at 06:11 PM..

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05-04-2006, 09:29 AM	#2
Jesterhole Ring of Famer Ridin' the McFailboat... Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,036	Agreed. The Titans organization has no class. I used to respect them...now they are just a bunch of punks. You don't treat a guy like Steve McNair like that.

05-04-2006, 09:41 AM	#4
Rascal RIP Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 16,581 Adopt-a-Bronco: Turf	I just don't want to see McNair go to Baltimore. If that happens they become dramatically improved.

05-04-2006, 09:59 AM	#5
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,991 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	I think they're doing the right thing. They don't have to cut him, and Balt is either in their divison and definately in their conference. Switch the team names to Chiefs and Broncos..and then tell me how you feel about it. McNair has not had a career of note...his 15 were up a long time ago.

05-04-2006, 10:04 AM	#6
Broncoman13 Broncoholic JT #80 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Colorado Posts: 16,961 Adopt-a-Bronco: Orange Julius	If I were Tenn I'd do the exact same thing. The Ravens aren't a favorite of anybody in the AFC... nobody really cares for them! Shanny and Jeff (Fisher) are friends, I wouldn't be suprised if Shanny is in his ear saying, the longer you hold on to Steve the less time he has to pick up the offense in Baltimore. I know that "Air" McNair is a class act and isn't getting the best deal from Tenn. But, this is a business and sometimes business gets ugly. Speaking of which, I need to go do some ugly business... in the bathroom! In other words, I'm going to go take a Boob and wipe my Crazyhorse!

05-04-2006, 10:10 AM	#7
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	Baloney. The fact is they can't sign Ty Law because they are sitting on a contract everyone knows they wont honor. Saying McNair hasn't had a career of note is absurd.

05-04-2006, 10:24 AM	#11
bendog Marginally Continent David Bowens, he'd be an upgrade Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Folsom Prison Posts: 19,935 Adopt-a-Bronco: David Bowens	Hey, Lelei to Tenn for McNair, and then WE hold billick up! Worst, we have a backup QB, and we get rid of the Bradlee (-:

05-04-2006, 11:34 AM	#13
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,991 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	Some could contend that McNair's injured ways have keep the Titans hostage for years now.

05-04-2006, 01:33 PM	#14
Killericon YES A DT!!!!!! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: From Calgary, in Halifax for School Posts: 7,730 Adopt-a-Bronco: watermock	As much as I hate the Titans front office for doing this, I can't help but be mad a McNair too, for not taking the salary cut. I mean, he is not worth what he is gonna get paid anymore. He just is'nt. Both sides have no class, or essense of Loyalty. If McNair were loyal to teh team, he'd take the but to stick around. If the Front office were Loyal to their One-Tme Co-MVP Franchise QB, they'd pay him what they said they would. I, personally, would be much happier if McNair stayed, and Volek hit the FA market. Just so you guys know, I don't think Jeff Fisher is behind this. I think that if he had the checkbook, there would'nt be any of this ****.

05-04-2006, 05:51 PM	#20
thebroncosnation Click-Clack Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Nashville Posts: 128	Guys, the radio talk shows down here are saying that they are holding off on doing anything in hopes that he changes his mind about leaving. All they show on tv is shots of VY calling McNair his Dad, or saying he is like a father to him. They figure the longer he is here the softer his stance will be.