Green Bay Bamboozled Us. - The Orange Mane

Killericon · 05-01-2006, 10:37 AM

My Favorite untold "Read between the lines" story of the draft. Green Bay and Denver had already worked out the deal for Javon....but then Denver starts seeing Chad Jackson fall. And Fall. And Fall. Suddenly, the Broncos tell them they're keeping the #37, and giving them other picks(Probably #61 and a 4th, or something or equal value) instead, since both sides know Walker's going to Denver, and now Denver wants this huge, HUGE steal. The Green Bay front office is not amused. They wanted that #37 pick(Why? I don't know, since they traded it away right away)....so they call up someone they know can take Chad away from the Broncos....The Patriots. They give them their #36 pick....One before the Broncos' #37 pick. Chad Jackson comes off the board, and Denver gives up the #37.

Those Bastards.....Although, I gotta say, it was one of the smartest moves in the draft. I hate them for it, but Kudos.....

freak6 · 05-01-2006, 10:40 AM

I share those sentiments, they are some sneaky bastards.

brncs_fan · 05-01-2006, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killericon

My Favorite untold "Read between the lines" story of the draft. Green Bay and Denver had already worked out the deal for Javon....but then Denver starts seeing Chad Jackson fall. And Fall. And Fall. Suddenly, the Broncos tell them they're keeping the #37, and giving them other picks(Probably #61 and a 4th, or something or equal value) instead, since both sides know Walker's going to Denver, and now Denver wants this huge, HUGE steal. The Green Bay front office is not amused. They wanted that #37 pick(Why? I don't know, since they traded it away right away)....so they call up someone they know can take Chad away from the Broncos....The Patriots. They give them their #36 pick....One before the Broncos' #37 pick. Chad Jackson comes off the board, and Denver gives up the #37.

Those Bastards.....Although, I gotta say, it was one of the smartest moves in the draft. I hate them for it, but Kudos.....

Interesting theory. Don't know that the Broncos would have passed on getting Walker for sake of drafting Jackson though.

Mediator12 · 05-01-2006, 10:41 AM

Yep. That was the exact same thing I was thinking at the time.

Killericon · 05-01-2006, 10:42 AM

I remember watching it happen....I threw my remote at the TV. It was like a train wreck in slow motion.....I heard "A trade has occured" and I knew it was someone stealing CJ from us. I knew it.....and the fact that it was the Pats just compounded the injury.

Killericon · 05-01-2006, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brncs_fan

Interesting theory. Don't know that the Broncos would have passed on getting Walker for sake of drafting Jackson though.

We would'nt have passed on him, just given up something else....Why do you think we did'nt trade the pick away untill we were on the clock?

PatsWin2002 · 05-01-2006, 10:44 AM

You hardly ever get to see "Bamboozled" in print.

spdirty · 05-01-2006, 10:44 AM

You think? Chad Jackson, and Javon Walker both? Wow, that wouldve been a steal for us.

Just another reason to hate the Pack.

Killericon · 05-01-2006, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spdirty

You think? Chad Jackson, and Javon Walker both? Wow, that wouldve been a steal for us.

Just another reason to hate the Pack.

That was why I threw my remote at the TV....I was never ecstatic about everyone projecting him at #15, but at #37, I would've been more than happy. All i can hope for now is that he turns out to be a bust.

Hotrod · 05-01-2006, 10:51 AM

Sometimes you just have to tip your hat to them.

Drek · 05-01-2006, 10:52 AM

I disagree. I think it was an agreed upon trade but was contingent on different guys dropping, namely Laurence Maroney. Shanahan wanted Walker, not Jackson. If it was Santonio Holmes I'd be more inclined to agree.

DomCasual · 05-01-2006, 10:54 AM

Nobody bamboozles us. We may have just been letting them think they bamboozled us, so that they would trade with us again.

Mike Shanahan is always seven or eight steps ahead of everyone else. He has the freshman high school class pretty well scouted at this point, and he has a good feel for what our 2013 draft will look like.

Taco John · 05-01-2006, 10:55 AM

Some people need to pick up a dictionary before posting on this site... Starting with a sound understanding of what the word "bamboozled" means...

Paladin · 05-01-2006, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotrod

Sometimes you just have to tip your hat to them.

Nah. I always give them a "Plummer".

halfcreek · 05-01-2006, 11:16 AM

Or the Packers "bamboozled" the Pats, letting them think that we were going to grab CJ when they knew that we were pretty much committed to JW, so the Packers get picks from the Pats as well as from us. Not sure that the FO was as in love with CJ as the talking hair heads.

-Slap- · 05-01-2006, 12:30 PM

We lost out on the softest wideout since Willie Gault.

R8R H8R · 05-01-2006, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Slap-

We lost out on the softest wideout since Willie Gault.

I never believed before the draft, and I certainly don't believe it now, that the Broncos ever was seriously targeting Jackson. I think they let everyone else believe that so they could get Cutler and Walker all along.

DarkHorse30 · 05-01-2006, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8R H8R

I never believed before the draft, and I certainly don't believe it now, that the Broncos ever was seriously targeting Jackson. I think they let everyone else believe that so they could get Cutler and Walker all along.

agreed.

Nuggets4 · 05-01-2006, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Slap-

We lost out on the softest wideout since Willie Gault.

Sorry slap, but the pink font is reserved for Kenyon Martin.

Ballhawk · 05-01-2006, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8R H8R

I never believed before the draft, and I certainly don't believe it now, that the Broncos ever was seriously targeting Jackson. I think they let everyone else believe that so they could get Cutler and Walker all along.

Also agree. Just because Jackson gets selected at #36 instead of #15 does not make him a better WR just a better value. Shanny wanted JW and had that deal in place 2 hours before that pick came up.

Garcia Bronco · 05-01-2006, 02:14 PM

WTF would we want Chad Jackson? He's an unproven wideout.

Lidderer · 05-01-2006, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taco John

Some people need to pick up a dictionary before posting on this site... Starting with a sound understanding of what the word "bamboozled" means...

Given the post's contention that GB dealt with the patriots in order to subvert what, at the point, was Denver's intention of keeping their 37th pick, the use of 'bamboozled' makes perfect sense.

Ya know, while we're nitpicking.

Killericon · 05-01-2006, 05:12 PM

I'm NOT saying we would've lost out on Javon in the name of Chad Jackson.....we would'nt have. I'm saying if he were availible, we would have given them something else.

SportinOne · 05-01-2006, 05:24 PM

Had we not traded the early 2, we would have traded the late 2 and then maybe the 4th.

So basically:

Scheffler and Dumervil

or

Chad Jackson

We didn't get bamboozled, we got saved.

Jetmeck · 05-01-2006, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nuggets4

Sorry slap, but the pink font is reserved for Kenyon Martin.

I'd reserve the pink for my fav, Eddie Kennison

05-01-2006, 12:30 PM	#16
-Slap- Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 31,895	We lost out on the softest wideout since Willie Gault. Last edited by -Slap-; 05-01-2006 at 06:04 PM..

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

05-01-2006, 10:37 AM	#1
Killericon YES A DT!!!!!! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: From Calgary, in Halifax for School Posts: 7,730 Adopt-a-Bronco: watermock	Green Bay Bamboozled Us. My Favorite untold "Read between the lines" story of the draft. Green Bay and Denver had already worked out the deal for Javon....but then Denver starts seeing Chad Jackson fall. And Fall. And Fall. Suddenly, the Broncos tell them they're keeping the #37, and giving them other picks(Probably #61 and a 4th, or something or equal value) instead, since both sides know Walker's going to Denver, and now Denver wants this huge, HUGE steal. The Green Bay front office is not amused. They wanted that #37 pick(Why? I don't know, since they traded it away right away)....so they call up someone they know can take Chad away from the Broncos....The Patriots. They give them their #36 pick....One before the Broncos' #37 pick. Chad Jackson comes off the board, and Denver gives up the #37. Those Bastards.....Although, I gotta say, it was one of the smartest moves in the draft. I hate them for it, but Kudos..... Last edited by Killericon; 05-01-2006 at 10:44 AM..

05-01-2006, 10:40 AM	#2
freak6 3,631 - WAKE UP!!!! Impeach President Cheney and Puppet Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,651 Adopt-a-Bronco: MJK	I share those sentiments, they are some sneaky bastards.

05-01-2006, 10:41 AM	#4
Mediator12 OM analyst REAL Front Seven Bandwagon !!! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: INDY Posts: 9,701 Adopt-a-Bronco: Malik Jackson	Yep. That was the exact same thing I was thinking at the time.

05-01-2006, 10:42 AM	#5
Killericon YES A DT!!!!!! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: From Calgary, in Halifax for School Posts: 7,730 Adopt-a-Bronco: watermock	I remember watching it happen....I threw my remote at the TV. It was like a train wreck in slow motion.....I heard "A trade has occured" and I knew it was someone stealing CJ from us. I knew it.....and the fact that it was the Pats just compounded the injury.

05-01-2006, 10:44 AM	#7
PatsWin2002 Giggity Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: South of Boston Posts: 6,270	You hardly ever get to see "Bamboozled" in print.

05-01-2006, 10:44 AM	#8
spdirty Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bailey Posts: 13,901 Adopt-a-Bronco: Koppen	You think? Chad Jackson, and Javon Walker both? Wow, that wouldve been a steal for us. Just another reason to hate the Pack.

05-01-2006, 10:51 AM	#10
Hotrod Self Appointed Expert aka Dortoh Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 25,136 Adopt-a-Bronco: Miss I	Sometimes you just have to tip your hat to them.

05-01-2006, 10:52 AM	#11
Drek Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 12,315	I disagree. I think it was an agreed upon trade but was contingent on different guys dropping, namely Laurence Maroney. Shanahan wanted Walker, not Jackson. If it was Santonio Holmes I'd be more inclined to agree.

05-01-2006, 10:54 AM	#12
DomCasual The Dude abides. Shameless Homer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cocytus Posts: 13,167 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gus Frerotte	Nobody bamboozles us. We may have just been letting them think they bamboozled us, so that they would trade with us again. Mike Shanahan is always seven or eight steps ahead of everyone else. He has the freshman high school class pretty well scouted at this point, and he has a good feel for what our 2013 draft will look like.

05-01-2006, 10:55 AM	#13
Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,697 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	Some people need to pick up a dictionary before posting on this site... Starting with a sound understanding of what the word "bamboozled" means...

05-01-2006, 11:16 AM	#15
halfcreek Pro Bowler Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 571	Or the Packers "bamboozled" the Pats, letting them think that we were going to grab CJ when they knew that we were pretty much committed to JW, so the Packers get picks from the Pats as well as from us. Not sure that the FO was as in love with CJ as the talking hair heads.

05-01-2006, 02:14 PM	#21
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,991 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	WTF would we want Chad Jackson? He's an unproven wideout.

05-01-2006, 05:12 PM	#23
Killericon YES A DT!!!!!! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: From Calgary, in Halifax for School Posts: 7,730 Adopt-a-Bronco: watermock	I'm NOT saying we would've lost out on Javon in the name of Chad Jackson.....we would'nt have. I'm saying if he were availible, we would have given them something else.

05-01-2006, 05:24 PM	#24
SportinOne Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,422	Had we not traded the early 2, we would have traded the late 2 and then maybe the 4th. So basically: Scheffler and Dumervil or Chad Jackson We didn't get bamboozled, we got saved.