Anyone else hoping for Lendale at 37?? - The Orange Mane

PortisFanForever · 04-30-2006, 06:34 PM

I think we just had a great draft.. gone were the days of myself getting to NYC by 6am to stand outside all morning to wait all day and hear us taking a Willie Middlebrooks

Cutler pick was amazing! and in hindsight I love getting Javon Walker at 37 but how many of you were sitting pick by pick(before we knew the Walker trade happened) that we would be grabbing Lendale at 37??

Apologies is this was posted already but did anyone ask Shanny if he was targetting Lendale there before the Javon deal happened??

The only pick I am baffled at is the TE we took in Round 2 when Leonard Pope was sitting there for the taking. Any reports of why Pope fell below all the other TEs in the draft

Love the DE from Louisville.. Elvis will help out alot on DEF

Just wonering if there was any ammo we had left(Lelie included) to trade with someone to get back in the mix to grab Lendale before the Titans did.. I wonder if that was even a possibility.

All in all good job this year

WABronco · 04-30-2006, 06:36 PM

No...I wasn't.

Pope fell because he's dumb as a rock...don't fall for all the name-recognition bs. Scheffler's a great prospect in his own right. Great size, speed, versatility. I'll trust Shanahan's judgement on this one.

I also love the DE pick. Hope he can contribute, because a threat off the edge is greatly needed.

Northman · 04-30-2006, 06:36 PM

Lendale would have been fine but Denver was more than likely looking at Jackson. But when NE jumped ahead it made Shanny and Co. go in another direction. Trading for Javon was not only a smart move but necessary at the time.

Clockwork Orange · 04-30-2006, 06:38 PM

I was, but I'm over it.

BroncoMatt · 04-30-2006, 06:39 PM

No, I think it would have been difficult for him to be a rookie with big cash in his hometown. As much as I think on the field it would have been a great fit off the field I think there would be too many distractions.

Ratboy · 04-30-2006, 06:39 PM

I wanted White, but Shanahan said he didn't want to take a runningback, which says we're fine at the RB position. I'm glad we have Walker instead of White.

Northman · 04-30-2006, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

I was, but I'm over it.

Nice avatar CO.

Jens1893 · 04-30-2006, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ratboy

I wanted White, but Shanahan said he didn't want to take a runningback, which says we're fine at the RB position. I'm glad we have Walker instead of White.

Maroney would´ve been the man at 15.

eddie mac · 04-30-2006, 06:53 PM

A running back in the 1st couple of rounds was always gonna be a waste unless he was a great receiving threat out of the backfield. Denver have been able to plug and play rb's for the last decade there's no reason to think that history will change with Dayne and Bell back there. More and more teams are using the 2 back attack, the top 3 rushing teams last year were duel backfields, Atlanta, Pittsburgh and ourselves.

Tombstone RJ · 04-30-2006, 07:02 PM

I really wanted White after the national championship game, and I would have been very happy with White at the #37 pick. However, I'm excited about Javon Walker and I'm comfortable with the RBs on the roster (not necessarily excited, but comfortable).

ro_50 · 04-30-2006, 07:10 PM

Shanny said in his press conference today they were considering Maroney out of Minnesota, who would have been a far better fit for Denver than LenDale White, with the 15th pick.

So Denver wasnt really interested in running backs in this year's draft.

Kaylore · 04-30-2006, 07:14 PM

We passed on White and DeAngelo and I'm thrilled. The Panthers just got themselves another injury case at a running back and the Titans are hoping that Chow can hide tweenkies well.

Tyrant · 04-30-2006, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

the Titans are hoping that Chow can hide tweenkies well.

After seeing that video feed of him at his house yesterday, I'm calling BS on all that talk of him still being 10 pounds lighter than he played at the Rose Bowl. Dude has seriously packed it on...

Vegas_Bronco · 04-30-2006, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Tyrant

After seeing that video feed of him at his house yesterday, I'm calling BS on all that talk of him still being 10 pounds lighter than he played at the Rose Bowl. Dude has seriously packed it on...

I AGREE - that guy looked like an idiot! After he was drafted he stood up and started yelling like he had something to prove. I'm happy he'll be in Tennessee with Young - you know their IQ's will be a perfect fit there.

youcandoit1687 · 04-30-2006, 07:41 PM

hoping NOT to get him

CBF1 · 04-30-2006, 08:20 PM

Not really

SoCalBronco · 04-30-2006, 08:23 PM

I was begging, hoping and pleading for White to be the pick at 37.

Alas, it wasnt meant to be.

Perhaps it will turn out differently next year when I am doing the same for Michael Bush, should he still be there when Denver is up.

Dudeskey · 04-30-2006, 08:52 PM

Nope I was hoping for Walker @ 37

halfcreek · 04-30-2006, 08:58 PM

No way that the NE move for Jackson influenced us at all. It was Javon all the way at 37. He will have a far better career than LW.

Gcver2ver3 · 04-30-2006, 10:00 PM

I just get a bad feeling about White....

Did you count how many times in his espn interviews from his house how many times he said he just wanted to have fun?

i counted at least 7 times.....

he wreaks of mo clarrett to me and frankly we can't afford another character problem like that again....

DarkHorse30 · 04-30-2006, 10:26 PM

never wanted White....or any other RB in this draft. It's clear to me that Denver's running game is fine....remember Denver was the 5th rated offense in football last year.

The problem with Denver's offense, IMO, has been the lack of a 2nd reliable possession WR. Back when Denver was winning SBs, the Broncos had a HOF TE, a pair of good WRs....but they could never find that #3 WR. Since those days, Denver has not found a reliable TE, or a possesion #2. Kind of limits the offense, IMO. YET, Denver's running game rarely struggled, even when it was obvious that Plummers open targets were few and far between. So every defense bunched up in the middle and dared Jake to throw....which he did, pretty effectively considering the lack of targets. How Plummer broke the alltime Denver record for passing yards in '04 remains a mystery to me.

So....let's call a spade a shovel. Denver's running game was the best in football last year (more first downs than any team AND 25 scoring plays....more than any other team except Shawn Alexander's Seahawks at 29)......in SPITE of having very few targets for Jake to throw at, and defenses gameplanning to stop Denver's rungame to beat them.

Adding a proven #2 WR like Walker will force defenses to pay more attention to the passing game.....so the running attack will likely improve, even with MA leaving and Dayne taking his place. I suppose the question will be whether Dayne and Bell can mimic the group that Anderson and Bell represented. Judging from Dayne and Bell's gamewinning individual performances last year...the answer is yes. Especially when combined with one more legit WR, and a contract year performance from Lelie.

Crushaholic · 04-30-2006, 11:11 PM

I was surprised that Denver didn't pick up a running back at all. I think some people were caught up in the fact that he's from Denver and didn't consider whether he was actually a good fit for the team. We didn't need a power back. That's where Dayne comes in...

broncocalijohn · 04-30-2006, 11:20 PM

Javon Walker at #37 i was amazing and he is proven. It is crazy how someguys already "have it" and get passed up (free agency or trade) for a high proced draft pick who hasnt done squat. Seems every team wants The Elways and Landamion Tolmlinsons of the world even with so few out there hit it in the first couple of rounds when you can have a proven starter and good wideout in Walker. Yes he wont be Jerry Rice but who cares. We got him for a #37th pick. How many teams would take Walker in the 2nd round knowing what he can do already in the NFL? I would answer most but when it comes down to it, Shanny and company actually DID IT! Congrats!

rubaiyat · 05-01-2006, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Tyrant

After seeing that video feed of him at his house yesterday, I'm calling BS on all that talk of him still being 10 pounds lighter than he played at the Rose Bowl. Dude has seriously packed it on...

Well, muscle weighs more than fat by volume...he might have lost weight by simply losing muscle. We'll see.

I don't believe it but it is possible.

Ballhawk · 05-01-2006, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by broncocalijohn

Javon Walker at #37 i was amazing and he is proven. It is crazy how someguys already "have it" and get passed up (free agency or trade) for a high proced draft pick who hasnt done squat. Seems every team wants The Elways and Landamion Tolmlinsons of the world even with so few out there hit it in the first couple of rounds when you can have a proven starter and good wideout in Walker. Yes he wont be Jerry Rice but who cares. We got him for a #37th pick. How many teams would take Walker in the 2nd round knowing what he can do already in the NFL? I would answer most but when it comes down to it, Shanny and company actually DID IT! Congrats!

2nd round picks do not get 10 mil signing bonuses and 6 year 40 mil contracts (those numbers are not fact but it will be close). Draft picks are a major tool in keeping your Cap in control.

04-30-2006, 06:34 PM	#1
PortisFanForever Solid Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 133	Anyone else hoping for Lendale at 37?? I think we just had a great draft.. gone were the days of myself getting to NYC by 6am to stand outside all morning to wait all day and hear us taking a Willie Middlebrooks Cutler pick was amazing! and in hindsight I love getting Javon Walker at 37 but how many of you were sitting pick by pick(before we knew the Walker trade happened) that we would be grabbing Lendale at 37?? Apologies is this was posted already but did anyone ask Shanny if he was targetting Lendale there before the Javon deal happened?? The only pick I am baffled at is the TE we took in Round 2 when Leonard Pope was sitting there for the taking. Any reports of why Pope fell below all the other TEs in the draft Love the DE from Louisville.. Elvis will help out alot on DEF Just wonering if there was any ammo we had left(Lelie included) to trade with someone to get back in the mix to grab Lendale before the Titans did.. I wonder if that was even a possibility. All in all good job this year

04-30-2006, 08:23 PM	#17
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04-30-2006, 06:36 PM	#2
WABronco WE SUCK AGAIN All dat force Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Denver Posts: 4,976	No...I wasn't. Pope fell because he's dumb as a rock...don't fall for all the name-recognition bs. Scheffler's a great prospect in his own right. Great size, speed, versatility. I'll trust Shanahan's judgement on this one. I also love the DE pick. Hope he can contribute, because a threat off the edge is greatly needed. Last edited by WABronco; 04-30-2006 at 06:39 PM..

04-30-2006, 06:36 PM	#3
Northman The Enigma Prognosis Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Maryland Posts: 17,925 Adopt-a-Bronco: Bryci	Lendale would have been fine but Denver was more than likely looking at Jackson. But when NE jumped ahead it made Shanny and Co. go in another direction. Trading for Javon was not only a smart move but necessary at the time.

04-30-2006, 06:38 PM	#4
Clockwork Orange Persona Non Grata I seen him! Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,438	I was, but I'm over it.

04-30-2006, 06:39 PM	#5
BroncoMatt The Blizzard Man Check My Style Out Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: California Posts: 1,559	No, I think it would have been difficult for him to be a rookie with big cash in his hometown. As much as I think on the field it would have been a great fit off the field I think there would be too many distractions.

04-30-2006, 06:39 PM	#6
Ratboy It's all over... ಠ_ಠ Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Okinawa, Japan Posts: 13,276	I wanted White, but Shanahan said he didn't want to take a runningback, which says we're fine at the RB position. I'm glad we have Walker instead of White.

04-30-2006, 06:53 PM	#9
eddie mac Ireland's No1 Bronco Eddie Mac 87 gone but never forgott Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: IRELAND Posts: 15,572 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rod Smith	A running back in the 1st couple of rounds was always gonna be a waste unless he was a great receiving threat out of the backfield. Denver have been able to plug and play rb's for the last decade there's no reason to think that history will change with Dayne and Bell back there. More and more teams are using the 2 back attack, the top 3 rushing teams last year were duel backfields, Atlanta, Pittsburgh and ourselves.

04-30-2006, 07:02 PM	#10
Tombstone RJ Ring of Famer Old School Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In the Tetons! Posts: 19,273 Adopt-a-Bronco: WorrellWilliams	I really wanted White after the national championship game, and I would have been very happy with White at the #37 pick. However, I'm excited about Javon Walker and I'm comfortable with the RBs on the roster (not necessarily excited, but comfortable).

04-30-2006, 07:10 PM	#11
ro_50 Ring of Famer Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Somewhere in Jersey Posts: 3,782	Shanny said in his press conference today they were considering Maroney out of Minnesota, who would have been a far better fit for Denver than LenDale White, with the 15th pick. So Denver wasnt really interested in running backs in this year's draft.

04-30-2006, 07:14 PM	#12
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,009 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	We passed on White and DeAngelo and I'm thrilled. The Panthers just got themselves another injury case at a running back and the Titans are hoping that Chow can hide tweenkies well.

04-30-2006, 07:41 PM	#15
youcandoit1687 homer Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2,602 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Myers	hoping NOT to get him

04-30-2006, 08:20 PM	#16
CBF1 Ring of Famer No avatar is the new avatar Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,907 Adopt-a-Bronco: Jack Del rio	Not really

04-30-2006, 08:52 PM	#18
Dudeskey Ring of Famer This space for rent Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 4,314	Nope I was hoping for Walker @ 37

04-30-2006, 08:58 PM	#19
halfcreek Pro Bowler Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 571	No way that the NE move for Jackson influenced us at all. It was Javon all the way at 37. He will have a far better career than LW.

04-30-2006, 10:00 PM	#20
Gcver2ver3 Ring of Famer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Tampa Bay, FL Posts: 6,629 Adopt-a-Bronco: not Lance Ball	I just get a bad feeling about White.... Did you count how many times in his espn interviews from his house how many times he said he just wanted to have fun? i counted at least 7 times..... he wreaks of mo clarrett to me and frankly we can't afford another character problem like that again....

04-30-2006, 10:26 PM	#21
DarkHorse30 Smith Rules Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,091 Adopt-a-Bronco: wolf pot roast	never wanted White....or any other RB in this draft. It's clear to me that Denver's running game is fine....remember Denver was the 5th rated offense in football last year. The problem with Denver's offense, IMO, has been the lack of a 2nd reliable possession WR. Back when Denver was winning SBs, the Broncos had a HOF TE, a pair of good WRs....but they could never find that #3 WR. Since those days, Denver has not found a reliable TE, or a possesion #2. Kind of limits the offense, IMO. YET, Denver's running game rarely struggled, even when it was obvious that Plummers open targets were few and far between. So every defense bunched up in the middle and dared Jake to throw....which he did, pretty effectively considering the lack of targets. How Plummer broke the alltime Denver record for passing yards in '04 remains a mystery to me. So....let's call a spade a shovel. Denver's running game was the best in football last year (more first downs than any team AND 25 scoring plays....more than any other team except Shawn Alexander's Seahawks at 29)......in SPITE of having very few targets for Jake to throw at, and defenses gameplanning to stop Denver's rungame to beat them. Adding a proven #2 WR like Walker will force defenses to pay more attention to the passing game.....so the running attack will likely improve, even with MA leaving and Dayne taking his place. I suppose the question will be whether Dayne and Bell can mimic the group that Anderson and Bell represented. Judging from Dayne and Bell's gamewinning individual performances last year...the answer is yes. Especially when combined with one more legit WR, and a contract year performance from Lelie.

04-30-2006, 11:11 PM	#22
Crushaholic Armchair Poster Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Topeka, KS Posts: 22,039	I was surprised that Denver didn't pick up a running back at all. I think some people were caught up in the fact that he's from Denver and didn't consider whether he was actually a good fit for the team. We didn't need a power back. That's where Dayne comes in...

04-30-2006, 11:20 PM	#23
broncocalijohn Famer of Rings My Dog Richard Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lake Forest, Orange County, Calif. Posts: 18,458 Adopt-a-Bronco: Simon Fletcher	Javon Walker at #37 i was amazing and he is proven. It is crazy how someguys already "have it" and get passed up (free agency or trade) for a high proced draft pick who hasnt done squat. Seems every team wants The Elways and Landamion Tolmlinsons of the world even with so few out there hit it in the first couple of rounds when you can have a proven starter and good wideout in Walker. Yes he wont be Jerry Rice but who cares. We got him for a #37th pick. How many teams would take Walker in the 2nd round knowing what he can do already in the NFL? I would answer most but when it comes down to it, Shanny and company actually DID IT! Congrats!