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[SoCalBronco]

Could Leinart slide all the way to 15?

POSTED 8:36 a.m. EDT; UPDATED 9:21 a.m. EDT, April 26, 2006

TEAM LEINART BRACING FOR SLIDE?

At a time when former USC tailback Reggie Bush is dealing with an unwelcome distraction that could disrupt his plan to be the No. 1 overall pick in the draft, his teammate who could have been the first pick in 2004 could now be facing a slide conjuring memories of the Aaron Rodgers plunge in 2005.

A source close to the Leinart camp tells us that Matt's handlers have accepted the reality that the Titans won't be drafting their guy at No. 3, barring a dramatic reversal of the current intention to acquire Texas quarterback Vince Young. Per the source, new Leinart agent Tom Condon has attempted to get some kind of an assurance from each of the teams drafting in the top five -- but has gotten nothing.

At No. 4, the Jets are not expected to draft a quarterback. Word is that they are looking to land Alabama's Brodie Croyle later in the day.

At No. 5, the Packers can't afford to spend another first-rounder on a guy who'll do nothing for them in 2006, especially since Lord Favre is coming back for one more year.

At No. 6, the 49ers have their quarterback in Alex Smith.

We'd initially presumed that the Raiders would take Leinart at No. 7, but we're now hearing from multiple sources that they won't.

The Bills won't touch Leinart at No. 8, unless G.M. Marv Levy is even nuttier than we currently believe.

At No. 9, there's no way the Lions pounce on Leinart.

Then we come to the Cardinals at No. 10. Will Denny Green be able to resist drafting a guy who falls into his lap, just like Randy Moss did eight years ago? We've got the Cardinals taking offensive tackle Winston Justice, given the importance of beefing up the group of guys who are going to be charged with keeping those big-money skill-position players alive.

At No. 11, quarterback is one of the few positions that the Rams have covered.

At No. 12, we can't see the Browns taking Leinart.

Then come the Ravens at No. 13. In our current mock draft, we've got them taking Vanderbilt quarterback Jay Cutler. Though we're feeling a little wishy-washy about whether Brian the Brain will stake his future on another first-round signal-caller, it might be hard for the supposed offensive guru to not take Leinart, if he falls into the team's lap.

And we think that the lowest Leinart would go, if he gets past Baltimore, is Minnesota at No. 17.

So the 2004 Heisman winner won't fall as dramatically as Rodgers did a year ago, when the Jeff Tedford prodigy plunged from potentially being the No. 1 pick all the way to No. 24. But given that Leinart was the presumptive No. 1 choice in 2005, and that he most likely would have been taken by the 49ers with the first pick, the possibility of sliding to No. 10 or lower translates into millions and millions of dollars of money that will never come back.

www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

[ludo21]

Please, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

next year shanny, next year.

[epicSocialism4tw]

I predicted it on another thread. I think that Matt falls a bit. I just dont see the skill set of a top 5 QB there. People say that he's valuable because of what's in his head, but has that ever guaranteed a player a high pick?

[Popps]

There is NO way he slips that far. No way.

[-Slap-]

No way he gets by Oakland and St Louis.

[bpc]

Well... I highly doubt that both the Lions and Cards pass on him. I just don't see it happening.

I'm not a huge Leinart fan. He could be okay but I'm not enamored with his mobility.

[Play2win]

No way he gets by Denver, wherever they trade up to...

[2KBack]

I don't see him sliding that far, no way no how. Still though in that unlikely scenario, I'd root for the guy

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by -Slap-

No way he gets by Oakland and St Louis.

Nope, despite SoCal's hopes and wishes.

[Tombstone RJ]

Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

Could Leinart slide all the way to 15?

POSTED 8:36 a.m. EDT; UPDATED 9:21 a.m. EDT, April 26, 2006

TEAM LEINART BRACING FOR SLIDE?

At a time when former USC tailback Reggie Bush is dealing with an unwelcome distraction that could disrupt his plan to be the No. 1 overall pick in the draft, his teammate who could have been the first pick in 2004 could now be facing a slide conjuring memories of the Aaron Rodgers plunge in 2005.

A source close to the Leinart camp tells us that Matt's handlers have accepted the reality that the Titans won't be drafting their guy at No. 3, barring a dramatic reversal of the current intention to acquire Texas quarterback Vince Young. Per the source, new Leinart agent Tom Condon has attempted to get some kind of an assurance from each of the teams drafting in the top five -- but has gotten nothing.

At No. 4, the Jets are not expected to draft a quarterback. Word is that they are looking to land Alabama's Brodie Croyle later in the day.

At No. 5, the Packers can't afford to spend another first-rounder on a guy who'll do nothing for them in 2006, especially since Lord Favre is coming back for one more year.

At No. 6, the 49ers have their quarterback in Alex Smith.

We'd initially presumed that the Raiders would take Leinart at No. 7, but we're now hearing from multiple sources that they won't.

The Bills won't touch Leinart at No. 8, unless G.M. Marv Levy is even nuttier than we currently believe.

At No. 9, there's no way the Lions pounce on Leinart.

Then we come to the Cardinals at No. 10. Will Denny Green be able to resist drafting a guy who falls into his lap, just like Randy Moss did eight years ago? We've got the Cardinals taking offensive tackle Winston Justice, given the importance of beefing up the group of guys who are going to be charged with keeping those big-money skill-position players alive.

At No. 11, quarterback is one of the few positions that the Rams have covered.

At No. 12, we can't see the Browns taking Leinart.

Then come the Ravens at No. 13. In our current mock draft, we've got them taking Vanderbilt quarterback Jay Cutler. Though we're feeling a little wishy-washy about whether Brian the Brain will stake his future on another first-round signal-caller, it might be hard for the supposed offensive guru to not take Leinart, if he falls into the team's lap.

And we think that the lowest Leinart would go, if he gets past Baltimore, is Minnesota at No. 17.

So the 2004 Heisman winner won't fall as dramatically as Rodgers did a year ago, when the Jeff Tedford prodigy plunged from potentially being the No. 1 pick all the way to No. 24. But given that Leinart was the presumptive No. 1 choice in 2005, and that he most likely would have been taken by the 49ers with the first pick, the possibility of sliding to No. 10 or lower translates into millions and millions of dollars of money that will never come back.

www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

No way this happens.

[SoCalBronco]

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

Nope, despite SoCal's hopes and wishes.

I'd be quite pleased to see him in Oakland. There's been alot of talk about who Al has his eye on. One second its VY, then Leinart, than VD. Raider Bill seems to think he is pretty committed to Walter in the future after a short interim period of Brooks. We'll see. But SF seems to want VD quite a bit at 6 although they were quite enthralled with DeAngelo Williams at the Senior Bowl in the same way Gruden was with Cadillac when the Bucs staff coached the South team last year.

[GonzoLays]

Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

Could Leinart slide all the way to 15?

POSTED 8:36 a.m. EDT; UPDATED 9:21 a.m. EDT, April 26, 2006

TEAM LEINART BRACING FOR SLIDE?

At a time when former USC tailback Reggie Bush is dealing with an unwelcome distraction that could disrupt his plan to be the No. 1 overall pick in the draft, his teammate who could have been the first pick in 2004 could now be facing a slide conjuring memories of the Aaron Rodgers plunge in 2005.

A source close to the Leinart camp tells us that Matt's handlers have accepted the reality that the Titans won't be drafting their guy at No. 3, barring a dramatic reversal of the current intention to acquire Texas quarterback Vince Young. Per the source, new Leinart agent Tom Condon has attempted to get some kind of an assurance from each of the teams drafting in the top five -- but has gotten nothing.

At No. 4, the Jets are not expected to draft a quarterback. Word is that they are looking to land Alabama's Brodie Croyle later in the day.

At No. 5, the Packers can't afford to spend another first-rounder on a guy who'll do nothing for them in 2006, especially since Lord Favre is coming back for one more year.

At No. 6, the 49ers have their quarterback in Alex Smith.

We'd initially presumed that the Raiders would take Leinart at No. 7, but we're now hearing from multiple sources that they won't.

The Bills won't touch Leinart at No. 8, unless G.M. Marv Levy is even nuttier than we currently believe.

At No. 9, there's no way the Lions pounce on Leinart.

Then we come to the Cardinals at No. 10. Will Denny Green be able to resist drafting a guy who falls into his lap, just like Randy Moss did eight years ago? We've got the Cardinals taking offensive tackle Winston Justice, given the importance of beefing up the group of guys who are going to be charged with keeping those big-money skill-position players alive.

At No. 11, quarterback is one of the few positions that the Rams have covered.

At No. 12, we can't see the Browns taking Leinart.

Then come the Ravens at No. 13. In our current mock draft, we've got them taking Vanderbilt quarterback Jay Cutler. Though we're feeling a little wishy-washy about whether Brian the Brain will stake his future on another first-round signal-caller, it might be hard for the supposed offensive guru to not take Leinart, if he falls into the team's lap.

And we think that the lowest Leinart would go, if he gets past Baltimore, is Minnesota at No. 17.

So the 2004 Heisman winner won't fall as dramatically as Rodgers did a year ago, when the Jeff Tedford prodigy plunged from potentially being the No. 1 pick all the way to No. 24. But given that Leinart was the presumptive No. 1 choice in 2005, and that he most likely would have been taken by the 49ers with the first pick, the possibility of sliding to No. 10 or lower translates into millions and millions of dollars of money that will never come back.

www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

How many times does profootballtalk.com have to be wrong before people realize they make their shiit up? I can't believe people still read the crap they post.

[BroncoFiend]

I love the reason for Detroit passing on him

"At No. 9, there's no way the Lions pounce on Leinart."

Hmmm is that because they just gave up on their QB of the future and have 'solidified the position with two journeyman backups??

Not to mention their logic for the Rams:

"At No. 11, quarterback is one of the few positions that the Rams have covered.

At No. 12, we can't see the Browns taking Leinart."

The Rams are widely rumored to be eyeing a QB, and the Browns have a HUGE '?' at the position.

They are idiots at that site.

[loborugger]

Taking a QB in the first round is, IMHO, the biggest gamble of all. They have, at best, a 50/50 chance of succeeding. And for every Manning, there is Ryan Leaf lurking out there. What was that big draft class of QBs, I think it was 99. The class gave us McNabb and Culpepper, but it also gave us Akili Smith and Tim Couch.

Also, if a QB is taken in the first round, the team is really married to the guy. The guy becomes a "have to" performer. You cant have a first round QB sitting on the bench learning the game. He has to step up. Look at a guy like Harrington. Dude is already considered a bust - even though he could at some point learn the game. It becomes a lot harder for a team to dump a first round QB that is a non-performer than say a CB or LB of the same credentials.

I am a fan of letting other teams go after the big name QBs. Then we can sign em as free agents...

While we do have some holes, I hope we expend our first round pick (should we keep it) on the best athlete available - minus QB and kickers.

[epicSocialism4tw]

I dont know if I see Leinart falling past Arizona, but I could see him fall out of the top 5.

Can someone tell me why Leinart is worth a top 5 pick?

[GonzoLays]

Originally Posted by BroncoFiend

I love the reason for Detroit passing on him

"At No. 9, there's no way the Lions pounce on Leinart."

Hmmm is that because they just gave up on their QB of the future and have 'solidified the position with two journeyman backups??

Not to mention their logic for the Rams:

"At No. 11, quarterback is one of the few positions that the Rams have covered.

At No. 12, we can't see the Browns taking Leinart."

The Rams are widely rumored to be eyeing a QB, and the Browns have a HUGE '?' at the position.

They are idiots at that site.

The same guy that dismissed Pat Kirwan of NFL.com for not knowing anything references profootballtalk.com for draft news.

Its obvious SoCalBronco has an agenda and skewed view of the draft. If a former GM such as Pat Kirwan writes something he does not agree with he is thoroughly dismissed as a quack with no football knowledge. Yet if a website with a dubious history of publishing articles that boggle the mind with fallacies and untruths writes a story that fits his agenda it is posted on the front page.

[Raider Bill]

The more I read Oakland is selecting a QB, the more I am certain they aren't. They're trying to goad someone into jumping up above 7 to push one of the positional players back a notch. I just hope it's VD and not Huff.

[loborugger]

Originally Posted by Raider Bill

The more I read Oakland is selecting a QB, the more I am certain they aren't. They're trying to goad someone into jumping up above 7 to push one of the positional players back a notch. I just hope it's VD and not Huff.

Ya, its all a big fake out right now. I think you can take these rumors with a grain of salt. More than a few are intentional disinformation releases while others are just down right wrong. Its hard to find the diamond in the rough. I dont even know why guys like Mel Kiper have a freakin job... what does he do, get about 10 percent of his guesses right? If I did that poorly, I would be in the breadline. Draft prognosticator, my butt.

[watermock]

Actually he got 6 of 10 right.

[loborugger]

In one year? Wow, I am impressed.

[Raider Bill]

Thing is sportswriters seemed to put a lot of stock into who was brought in for visits.

The Raiders routinely select a guy they never brought in.

[Orange_Beard]

This is BS.

Why would he fall?

On the 1 in a million it would happen, I would be very happy.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Can someone tell me why Matt Leinart is worth a top 5 pick? What substance does he have that equates to that sort of value?

I understant that hes "smart", but so was Brian Greise. To be honest, I dont see a whole lot of difference between the two.

[Rock Chalk]

All these players rising and falling in the draft.

You know what's going on in the war rooms?

Nothing. Draft boards are set. Teams know who they are targeting and nothing other than an arrest of someone is going to change that.

The media can speculate all they want, teams dont care what the media says, I can promise you that. Anything you hear anywhere is all bull****.

Too close to draft day.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Originally Posted by angryllama

Can someone tell me why Matt Leinart is worth a top 5 pick? What substance does he have that equates to that sort of value?

He has "it" supposedly