PFT- Players who stock are dropping

[Hercules Rockefeller]

http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

STOCK HAS DROPPED FOR SIX HIGH-PROFILE PLAYERS

Although there have not yet been any final-week disclosures or developments causing one or more of the draft-eligible players with name recognition to plummet this weekend, a broader look at the past several months reveals six guys who have seen their prospects for getting drafted early decline.

This information is based on our discussions with league sources, and thus is subject to the standard possibility that someone is knocking a guy in the hopes of making sure he's available at a lower round. In the end, where the guy is drafted is where the guy is drafted. (How freakin' profound.)

1. Mathias Kiawanuka, DE, Boston College.

Viewed by some as a top-five pick prior to the 2005 season, Kiawanuka will now be lucky to be selected on day one of the draft. The perception is that Kiawanuka had his "ass whupped" at the Senior Bowl, and that he showed no leg strength or intensity. Three teams that we know of have him rated as a fourth-rounder.

2. Jimmy Williams, CB, Virginia Tech.

Williams is regarded by some league insiders as a "very bad dude" -- and not in the good way. We've heard that some teams have removed him completely from their boards.

3. Claude Wroten, DT, LSU.

We reported on Friday, citing three league sources, that Wroten tested positive at the combine. Although the teams know about the result, no one else in the media has made the connection between the positive result and the negative impact on his draft stock.

Wroten also was arrested on marijuana charges earlier this year, but the charges were dropped. To compound the problem, we're told that some teams were not enamored by his interviewing skills.

4. Derek Hagan, WR, Arizona State.

Before the 2005 season, he consistently was viewed as one of the top receivers in the country. His inconsistent hands are putting him in the round three range now.

5. Dominique Byrd, TE, USC.

Byrd was seen as one of the top two tight ends before the 2005 season. But a "brutal" pro day workout and a "lackadaisical attitude" have fueled a fall.

6. LenDale White, RB, USC.

For anyone who has been living under a rock or, even worse, on top of one, White is this year's poster child for how not to handle the run-up to the draft. A hamstring injury was disclosed when he showed up for his pro day workout. He managed a total of 15 reps in the 225-pound bench press.

At one point, White was a possible top-ten pick. Now, he'll be lucky to hear his name called by dinner time on Saturday. White's likely response?

"Mmmm. Dinner."

[Hotrod]

"1. Mathias Kiawanuka, DE, Boston College.

Viewed by some as a top-five pick prior to the 2005 season, Kiawanuka will now be lucky to be selected on day one of the draft"

wow just wow

[Broncoman13]

If Kiwi is there at 61 and we pass I'll be suprised, if he's there at 68 and we pass I'll be pissed!

[Old Dude]

Originally Posted by Hercules Rockefeller

http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

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4. Derek Hagan, WR, Arizona State.

Before the 2005 season, he consistently was viewed as one of the top receivers in the country. His inconsistent hands are putting him in the round three range now.
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That pretty much guarantees we'll take him.

[Raider Bill]

KIWI a 4th rounder?

One bad game does not negate his entire body of work.

Kiwi is easily an early 2nd round/ late 1st pick IMO.

[WABronco]

Apparently some scout told them that they were FOS, and they said something about it...

Here it is:

IN DEFENSE OF MATHIAS

In response to our piece from earlier on Tuesday regarding guys that are or may be falling on draft boards, we've heard from one scout who strongly disagrees with the information we'd gathered regarding Boston College defensive lineman Mathias Kiawanuka.

"There is no chance that he gets out of the second round," says the source. "I’d bet my house and car. He has slipped, no question. But to have him rated as a fourth-rounder is sheer lunacy. . . . To deflate a guy to the second day because he got blocked by [D'Brickashaw] Ferguson in the Senior Bowl is the height of stupidity.

"The guy is 6’5, 250 lbs, runs a 4.7 and has 40 career sacks. He’ll be a good, not great, pro."

For the record, the source agrees with us as to the other five sliders that we listed.

Eat **** PFT!

[SimonFletcher73]

If we don't get Hali, this is the DE I want. With either of our firsts it's a decent value.

Free agent DE's cost WAY TOO MUCH. IE: Andre Carter.

[Kaylore]

Originally Posted by Old Dude

That pretty much guarantees we'll take him.

[SoCalBronco]

Originally Posted by OSKIE

If Kiwi is there at 61 and we pass I'll be suprised, if he's there at 68 and we pass I'll be pissed!

Commissioner Tagliabue: The Denver Broncos are on the clock with the 119th pick.


Kiper: Youve got to be thinking Kiwanuka here. Its the late 4th round and he's arguably a 1st round talent. Denver has not yet addressed the Defensive End position in the draft. To me, this is a no brainer. Mike Shanahan is doing cartwheels in Dove Valley right now that this guy is still on the board. He was a potential Top 5 pick early this year, got injured by a cheap shot move in the Virginia Cavaliers game. He's got alot of ability. This is just excellent value here, really unbelieveable value for Denver.







Commissioner Tagliabue: With the 119th pick in the NFL Draft, Denver selects Cornerback Dee Webb, University of Florida.


Kiper: It's clear to me that the Denver Broncos dont know what the draft is all about.

[Hotrod]

Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

Commissioner Tagliabue: The Denver Broncos are on the clock with the 119th pick.


Kiper: Youve got to be thinking Kiwanuka here. Its the late 4th round and he's arguably a 1st round talent. Denver has not yet addressed the Defensive End position in the draft. To me, this is a no brainer. Mike Shanahan is doing cartwheels in Dove Valley right now that this guy is still on the board. He was a potential Top 5 pick early this year, got injured by a cheap shot move in the Virginia Cavaliers game. He's got alot of ability. This is just excellent value here, really unbelieveable value for Denver.







Commissioner Tagliabue: With the 119th pick in the NFL Draft, Denver selects Cornerback Dee Webb, University of Florida.


Kiper: It's clear to me that the Denver Broncos dont know what the draft is all about.

oh so true

[SoCalBronco]

Originally Posted by Hotrod

oh so true

Honestly I could see it happening. I will put nothing past this FO. For some reason, on draft day, reasoning and logic goes out the window....although its an even numbered year, so the screwups wont be as often.

[Broncoman13]

Remind me to stay away from all sharp objects and to have a bottle of Courvoisier on hand for what is sure to be a tough weekend.

[Hercules Rockefeller]

Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

Honestly I could see it happening. I will put nothing past this FO. For some reason, on draft day, reasoning and logic goes out the window....although its an even numbered year, so the screwups wont be as often.

But we've got so many below average D-Lineman, why would Shahanan upset the balance and add talent to the unit outside of CB and GW?

[Paladin]

Is that sarcasm? just asking...