Packers and Broncos talks heating up once more. - The Orange Mane

Requiem · 04-25-2006, 01:28 PM

UPDATE

Here's an update on the situation: (FROM TSN WAR ROOM SCOUT)

About a half hour ago I had the chance to speak to source very close to the Broncos. I'll go on record now as saying this is one of those guys that you can place you reputation in his hands.

As I reported earlier, the Broncos are in heavy discussions with the Packers trying to conjure up a deal that would bring Javon Walker to Denver. This deal really seems to be more 2 part then it looks on the surface.

The Broncos have a real love fest going on for Vernon Davis and are doing everything and anything in their power to jump ahead of the Raiders who they believe will take Davis and give them a dangerous group of receivers and even the 49ers who have been said to be very interested.

I was told the Broncos could have landed Walker by now as GB and Denver have virtually agreed on the details of a trade but Denver has soured after GB pulled a more complex deal involving a swap of 1st round picks off the table.

I was basically told every move Denver has made to this point was to position themselves to move up into the top 6 of this draft. If that includes acquiring Walker along the way they consider it icing on the cake. The trade with SF to acquire extra day 1 picks was all part of the plan as it's believed Denver will use those picks as ammunition to move up along with Lelie.

The bottom line is, expect Denver to acquire Walker but not at the cost of losing out on Vernon Davis. If a deal can't be reached with GB by Thursday that includes the 5th pick then you can expect Denver to turn their attention to the Jets who have already made contact with the Broncos about moving up. The Jets with 2 first round pick would love to move back and acquire additional picks for what they are calling a minor rebuilding process.

When I aksed him what he thought would finally happen he seemed to think in the end the price to move into the top 5 will be to steep but he also cautioned that Denver has made Davis priority #1 from the day they started their off season program and not to be surprised if Denver sells the farm to make it happen. He said at this time he's leaning towards Walker being a Bronco but not at the cost of the 15th pick but something less. Something in the range of 2nd and 3rd rounder or 2nd rounder with a future pick. If Denver is giving up their 15th it's only going to be in a move that will land them Vernon Davis.

From the same TSN Scout that posted the news on Jimmy Williams, he has also received word on several possible deals regarding the Packers and the Broncos.

DEAL #1:
Denver receives: Javon Walker, #5
Green Bay receives: Ashley Lelie, #15 and a second rounder. (No mention of which, I'd guess #37)

Green Bay allegedly is holding up this deal because they're looking for an extra second-day selection(s).

DEAL #2:
Denver Receives: Javon Walker, #36
Green Bay Receives: #15 Overall.

Lelie isn't involved in this trade, which is interesting. I like this deal a lot. We move back, get a receiver and have back to back picks (36 and 37) in Round Two. That's nice.

Just posted fresh today, I'll try and talk to him in private about this and get more information and I'll keep you guys updated, I know you love it!

Clockwork Orange · 04-25-2006, 01:30 PM

I'd take either one of those.

ro_50 · 04-25-2006, 01:31 PM

If It were me, I would not like to give up that first round pick.

I think the first one is a bit more fair for my taste.

Hotrod · 04-25-2006, 01:31 PM

Sign me up for deal #1 please. We swap WR's move up 10 spots in the 1st round get VD and only give up a 2nd. I'd **** myself

Requiem · 04-25-2006, 01:32 PM

I also bought a web cam today guys, so maybe I'll be like that Jets kid and start doing broadcasts live from my dorm. Wait, I'll do one right now!

GonzoLays · 04-25-2006, 01:33 PM

For the love of God if Deal One is true just send them the second day pick and get it over with. What in the hell is that fourth or fifth rounder going to do for us? Half the time they don't even make the team.

Ratboy · 04-25-2006, 01:33 PM

I'm torn on this, Both trades are intruiging.

Requiem · 04-25-2006, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrod

Sign me up for deal #1 please. We swap WR's move up 10 spots in the 1st round get VD and only give up a 2nd. I'd **** myself

I'd have to say it's #37, but it's still decent value. I guess Green Bay likes the idea of having back-to-back picks better than having #15 and #22 and getting a receiver out of the deal as well who could be just what they need. Like I said, if I hear anything new -- I'll let you all know!

KipCorrington25 · 04-25-2006, 01:34 PM

Deal 1 yes
Deal 2 no

Ratboy · 04-25-2006, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Requiem

I also bought a web cam today guys, so maybe I'll be like that Jets kid and start doing broadcasts live from my dorm. Wait, I'll do one right now!

ro_50 · 04-25-2006, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GonzoLays

For the love of God if Deal One is true just send them the second day pick and get it over with. What in the hell is that fourth or fifth rounder going to do for us? Half the time they don't even make the team.

You are right on the second day picks.

BroncoInferno · 04-25-2006, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GonzoLays

For the love of God if Deal One is true just send them the second day pick and get it over with. What in the hell is that fourth or fifth rounder going to do for us? Half the time they don't even make the team.

Hell yeah, I agree, give them one of our 4ths and get that deal done. We'll still have two 4ths to play with, plus we'll be able to land VD! Walker+VD=Instant offense!!

RhymesayersDU · 04-25-2006, 01:38 PM

Deal #1.

Sorry SoCal...

ro_50 · 04-25-2006, 01:39 PM

All this talk is making me sick to my stomach. Just get something done, I cant wait till Saturday.

Man-Goblin · 04-25-2006, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GonzoLays

For the love of God if Deal One is true just send them the second day pick and get it over with. What in the hell is that fourth or fifth rounder going to do for us? Half the time they don't even make the team.

Absolutely. I would give both tradable fourths for that deal. Get it done.

Ratboy · 04-25-2006, 01:40 PM

I like the first one, but i'm not sure i want Shanahan getting ahold of it. He would probably screw up and take Vince Young.

Hotrod · 04-25-2006, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ro_50

All this talk is making me sick to my stomach. Just get something done, I cant wait till Saturday.

ditto

DomCasual · 04-25-2006, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Requiem

I also bought a web cam today guys, so maybe I'll be like that Jets kid and start doing broadcasts live from my dorm. Wait, I'll do one right now!

That would be sweet. Have you picked a blanket to hang as a backdrop?

RhymesayersDU · 04-25-2006, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ratboy

I like the first one, but i'm not sure i want Shanahan getting ahold of it. He would probably screw up and take Vince Young.

Ummm... I don't think "screw up" and "make the best decision ever" mean the same thing.

I'm sure you meant the latter.

Hotrod · 04-25-2006, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ratboy

I like the first one, but i'm not sure i want Shanahan getting ahold of it. He would probably screw up and take Vince Young.

There is 100% chance that if this happend VD would be the target

ludo21 · 04-25-2006, 01:41 PM

Deal 1, please... if all thats holding up the deal is a 2nd day pick, DO IT!!!

Its robbery sure, but still!!

Requiem · 04-25-2006, 01:43 PM

I think if any deal happens, it'll be the second one. Denver gets their receiver, moves down from a spot that they would probably have to reach for a player, but has back-to-back picks in the second round. Just for fun here, how about this for a draft.

#36 - Mathias Kiwanuka
#37 - Marcedes Lewis
#61 - John McCargo
#68 - BPA (Perhaps a wide-out)
Javon Walker
_______________

I like that first day better than anything I can come up with our picks right now.

Hotrod · 04-25-2006, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RhymesayersDU

Ummm... I don't think "screw up" and "make the best decision ever" mean the same thing.

I'm sure you meant the latter.

not happening

Clockwork Orange · 04-25-2006, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotrod

There is 100% chance that if this happend VD would be the target

I wouldn't say 100%. A QB could very well be the target if they move up.

Requiem · 04-25-2006, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DomCasual

That would be sweet. Have you picked a blanket to hang as a backdrop?

No, but I do have a Denver Broncos flag, and you can see my loft-bed with blue covers and my bottom bed with orange sheets and covers. Does that work out!?

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04-25-2006, 01:28 PM	#1
Requiem ~~~ ~ ~ ~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Earth Division Posts: 19,515 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gilgamesh	Packers and Broncos talks heating up once more. UPDATE Here's an update on the situation: (FROM TSN WAR ROOM SCOUT) About a half hour ago I had the chance to speak to source very close to the Broncos. I'll go on record now as saying this is one of those guys that you can place you reputation in his hands. As I reported earlier, the Broncos are in heavy discussions with the Packers trying to conjure up a deal that would bring Javon Walker to Denver. This deal really seems to be more 2 part then it looks on the surface. The Broncos have a real love fest going on for Vernon Davis and are doing everything and anything in their power to jump ahead of the Raiders who they believe will take Davis and give them a dangerous group of receivers and even the 49ers who have been said to be very interested. I was told the Broncos could have landed Walker by now as GB and Denver have virtually agreed on the details of a trade but Denver has soured after GB pulled a more complex deal involving a swap of 1st round picks off the table. I was basically told every move Denver has made to this point was to position themselves to move up into the top 6 of this draft. If that includes acquiring Walker along the way they consider it icing on the cake. The trade with SF to acquire extra day 1 picks was all part of the plan as it's believed Denver will use those picks as ammunition to move up along with Lelie. The bottom line is, expect Denver to acquire Walker but not at the cost of losing out on Vernon Davis. If a deal can't be reached with GB by Thursday that includes the 5th pick then you can expect Denver to turn their attention to the Jets who have already made contact with the Broncos about moving up. The Jets with 2 first round pick would love to move back and acquire additional picks for what they are calling a minor rebuilding process. When I aksed him what he thought would finally happen he seemed to think in the end the price to move into the top 5 will be to steep but he also cautioned that Denver has made Davis priority #1 from the day they started their off season program and not to be surprised if Denver sells the farm to make it happen. He said at this time he's leaning towards Walker being a Bronco but not at the cost of the 15th pick but something less. Something in the range of 2nd and 3rd rounder or 2nd rounder with a future pick. If Denver is giving up their 15th it's only going to be in a move that will land them Vernon Davis. From the same TSN Scout that posted the news on Jimmy Williams, he has also received word on several possible deals regarding the Packers and the Broncos. DEAL #1: Denver receives: Javon Walker, #5 Green Bay receives: Ashley Lelie, #15 and a second rounder. (No mention of which, I'd guess #37) Green Bay allegedly is holding up this deal because they're looking for an extra second-day selection(s). DEAL #2: Denver Receives: Javon Walker, #36 Green Bay Receives: #15 Overall. Lelie isn't involved in this trade, which is interesting. I like this deal a lot. We move back, get a receiver and have back to back picks (36 and 37) in Round Two. That's nice. Just posted fresh today, I'll try and talk to him in private about this and get more information and I'll keep you guys updated, I know you love it! Last edited by Requiem; 04-25-2006 at 07:12 PM..

04-25-2006, 01:30 PM	#2
Clockwork Orange Persona Non Grata I seen him! Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,438	I'd take either one of those.

04-25-2006, 01:31 PM	#3
ro_50 Ring of Famer Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Somewhere in Jersey Posts: 3,782	If It were me, I would not like to give up that first round pick. I think the first one is a bit more fair for my taste.

04-25-2006, 01:31 PM	#4
Hotrod Self Appointed Expert aka Dortoh Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 25,136 Adopt-a-Bronco: Miss I	Sign me up for deal #1 please. We swap WR's move up 10 spots in the 1st round get VD and only give up a 2nd. I'd **** myself

04-25-2006, 01:32 PM	#5
Requiem ~~~ ~ ~ ~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Earth Division Posts: 19,515 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gilgamesh	I also bought a web cam today guys, so maybe I'll be like that Jets kid and start doing broadcasts live from my dorm. Wait, I'll do one right now!

04-25-2006, 01:33 PM	#6
GonzoLays Five Tool Poster Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 5,650 Adopt-a-Bronco: #3 DJ	For the love of God if Deal One is true just send them the second day pick and get it over with. What in the hell is that fourth or fifth rounder going to do for us? Half the time they don't even make the team.

04-25-2006, 01:33 PM	#7
Ratboy It's all over... ಠ_ಠ Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Okinawa, Japan Posts: 13,276	I'm torn on this, Both trades are intruiging.

04-25-2006, 01:34 PM	#9
KipCorrington25 Free Safety Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Centennial Posts: 3,050	Deal 1 yes Deal 2 no

04-25-2006, 01:38 PM	#13
RhymesayersDU Go Broncos, Nuggets, Rox GANGNAM STYLE Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Back In The 303! Posts: 14,812 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ty Lawson	Deal #1. Sorry SoCal...

04-25-2006, 01:39 PM	#14
ro_50 Ring of Famer Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Somewhere in Jersey Posts: 3,782	All this talk is making me sick to my stomach. Just get something done, I cant wait till Saturday.

04-25-2006, 01:40 PM	#16
Ratboy It's all over... ಠ_ಠ Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Okinawa, Japan Posts: 13,276	I like the first one, but i'm not sure i want Shanahan getting ahold of it. He would probably screw up and take Vince Young.

04-25-2006, 01:41 PM	#21
ludo21 RIP Darrent Williams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 17,898 Adopt-a-Bronco: Paul Ernster	Deal 1, please... if all thats holding up the deal is a 2nd day pick, DO IT!!! Its robbery sure, but still!!

04-25-2006, 01:43 PM	#22
Requiem ~~~ ~ ~ ~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Earth Division Posts: 19,515 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gilgamesh	I think if any deal happens, it'll be the second one. Denver gets their receiver, moves down from a spot that they would probably have to reach for a player, but has back-to-back picks in the second round. Just for fun here, how about this for a draft. #36 - Mathias Kiwanuka #37 - Marcedes Lewis #61 - John McCargo #68 - BPA (Perhaps a wide-out) Javon Walker _______________ I like that first day better than anything I can come up with our picks right now.