General Hockey Thread v2.0

[SoCalBronco]

Originally Posted by 24champbailey

SOCAL i was reading something about Sid Crosby on another forum and people were saying he looks a tad like Gretzky....Didnt Gretzky play for a small market team (Edmonton) and get traded to the Kings (large market team).Coincidently Pitt is struggling financially and Sid will demand dollars soon. Just sayin socal.....

Im pretty sure thats not what they were trying to get across with the comparison

We wont be struggling financially starting with the 2007-2008 season. We'll have a new arena in Pittsburgh either through the Isle of Capri winning the license (extremely unlikely) or the Governor's "Plan B" or in the worst scenario in a new city with a sweet arena deal. Plus new ownership is coming in with presumably deep pockets. The only financial issues this club is going to have is in about 5 years figuring out how to keep Crosby, Malkin, Fleury, Whitney, Welch and the very high pick (if he isnt traded) coming this year and stay under the cap.

[24champ]

Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

Im pretty sure thats not what they were trying to get across with the comparison

We wont be struggling financially starting with the 2007-2008 season. We'll have a new arena in Pittsburgh either through the Isle of Capri winning the license (extremely unlikely) or the Governor's "Plan B" or in the worst scenario in a new city with a sweet arena deal. Plus new ownership is coming in with presumably deep pockets. The only financial issues this club is going to have is in about 5 years figuring out how to keep Crosby, Malkin, Fleury, Whitney, Welch and the very high pick (if he isnt traded) coming this year and stay under the cap.

Does your Arena proposal have to go through Legislature or do people vote on it ( IE. KC roof vote).

[SoCalBronco]

Originally Posted by 24champbailey

Does your Arena proposal have to go through Legislature or do people vote on it ( IE. KC roof vote).

Neither.

It will go through a Gaming Board, most of whom has been appointed by the Governor who hates the Penguins. The chairman of the gaming board has already made it clear that he is hostile to the Penguins partner, Isle of Capri Casinos.

The likely winner will be a group associated with Harrah's casinos who contributed substantially to the Governor in the last year. But the Penguins hae done a good job of putting political pressure on him with fan rallies, getting alot of elected officials to support their plan. From what I have read this has become a big issue in Pittsburgh and thousands of people have become pretty active in speaking out for the team (at the Steelers championship parade which the Gov attended, when he started speaking, lots of people started chanting "Mario..Mario..Mario" at him). That has forced the Governor to come up with a Plan B to fund an arena since he is very weak in the Pittsburgh area and in will be locked in a close election against a Steelers legend in Lynn Swann. The problem right now is that about half the funds to be used to build in the Arena in Plan B involves 7.5 million a year in voluntary contributions from the slots winner if it isnt Isle of Capri (as part of their slots application, they would fully fund the 290 million multi purpose arena and then turn it over to the Pittsburgh Sports Authority) for something like 20 years and he has to get the Harrah's group that he is in bed with and the other group competing against the Penguins for the license to sign onto it.

[Ray Finkle]

Originally Posted by Bronx33

I think the rangers should do pretty good iam not a real big fan of weekes but hes been playing pretty good as for the sabers with hecht and kotalik in and out of the line up there goal production all depends on the team health.

Lundqvist will be back during the playoffs. If they needed him, he could play now but they want to rest him and Kasper.

[Ray Finkle]

Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

Right now you'd be slotted to play against NJ in the first round right?

Brodeur's pretty good in the playoffs sans the 2001 Cup Finals.

NJ has never beat the Rangers in the playoffs....

[SoCalBronco]

Originally Posted by Ray Finkle

NJ has never beat the Rangers in the playoffs....

Kind of a deceptive statistic. Youve played them once in the playoffs since they started their run of being one of the league's elite teams with their 95 Cup title.

There's a first time for everything though.

Seriously I dont hate you guys, really all I ask in the playoff is that the Flyers dont win it. After that I really dont care (also kinda want Anaheim to be eliminated, I generally hate local teams).

[24champ]

Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

Kind of a deceptive statistic. Youve played them once in the playoffs since they started their run of being one of the league's elite teams with their 95 Cup title.

There's a first time for everything though.

Seriously I dont hate you guys, really all I ask in the playoff is that the Flyers dont win it. After that I really dont care (also kinda want Anaheim to be eliminated, I generally hate local teams).

I dont want the Dead Skins or the Ducks to win. I guess I would root for the Sharks.

[Ray Finkle]

Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

Kind of a deceptive statistic. Youve played them once in the playoffs since they started their run of being one of the league's elite teams with their 95 Cup title.

There's a first time for everything though.

Seriously I dont hate you guys, really all I ask in the playoff is that the Flyers dont win it. After that I really dont care (also kinda want Anaheim to be eliminated, I generally hate local teams).

94 and 97.....that's twice.... their run started in 94...

With a goalie like Lundqvist, he can steal a game or two a series...the Flyers are an odd team. They are bad in their own zone and no matter how big they are, those things get magnified in the playoffs. I live in VA, I hate all local teams....well before I even moved here...

[SoCalBronco]

Originally Posted by Ray Finkle

94 and 97.....that's twice.... their run started in 94...

With a goalie like Lundqvist, he can steal a game or two a series...the Flyers are an odd team. They are bad in their own zone and no matter how big they are, those things get magnified in the playoffs. I live in VA, I hate all local teams....well before I even moved here...

They got to the Eastern Conf. Finals in 94, but I dont think they were really recognized as one of the league's best clubs until they cleaned supposedly unbeatable Detroit's clock in the finals the following year.

I think Lundy will be extremely vital for you guys in the playoffs. Im glad your going to win the division. I dont want Philly having home ice advantage in any round in the playoffs.

[Breck Bronc]

Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

They got to the Eastern Conf. Finals in 94, but I dont think they were really recognized as one of the league's best clubs until they cleaned supposedly unbeatable Detroit's clock in the finals the following year.

I think Lundy will be extremely vital for you guys in the playoffs. Im glad your going to win the division. I dont want Philly having home ice advantage in any round in the playoffs.

I think most people conceded that New Jersey was an elite team when they took the President's Trophy winning-Rangers to double overtime in game 7. That was one of the best playoff series in NHL history in one of the best playoff seasons ever (Rangers/Canucks, Rangers/Devils, Sharks/Red Wings, Canucks/Flames, Devils/Sabres, Maple Leafs/Sharks, Bruins/Canadiens were all classic series).

[Mtbrncofn]

Originally Posted by Bronx33

I think the rangers should do pretty good iam not a real big fan of weekes but hes been playing pretty good as for the sabers with hecht and kotalik in and out of the line up there goal production all depends on the team health.

I also agree that the Rangers have a good chance of getting somewhere in the playoffs.

All depends on Jagr, IMO. Without him, the team would be in the ****ter. I think I heard the other night that he's scored 46% of their points this year or something close to that.

[Mtbrncofn]

So we drop another spot in the playoff picture, eh? Well last I checked anyway, SJ was winning. Geez.

[24champ]

Originally Posted by Breck Bronc

I think most people conceded that New Jersey was an elite team when they took the President's Trophy winning-Rangers to double overtime in game 7. That was one of the best playoff series in NHL history in one of the best playoff seasons ever (Rangers/Canucks, Rangers/Devils, Sharks/Red Wings, Canucks/Flames, Devils/Sabres, Maple Leafs/Sharks, Bruins/Canadiens Kings/Leafs were all classic series).

fixed it.

[broncocalijohn]

Originally Posted by Ray Finkle

Hey Guys,

I have my homer glasses on right now, what do you think the Rangers chances of doing something good in the playoffs are? I think if they avoid the Sabers they have a good chance to make the conference finals...

THIS IS WESTERN conference talk. East coast? Please the only east coast hockey we talk here is hoping Penguins suck enough for a great draft pick and Washington 's stud scorer, Ovechkin. No names please. Heard enough updates lol!

[Clockwork Orange]

Ovechkin (after taking a pie in the face from a teammate during the postgame interview) celebrating his 100th point.

[broncocalijohn]

Originally Posted by 24champbailey

I dont want the Dead Skins or the Ducks to win. I guess I would root for the Sharks.

Come on cb, when fing ucla was in the Basketball finals, I swallowed my pride, put the USC shirt down and rooted for the West Coast regardless of the rivalry. Ducks making a good run will bring more fans to hockey. With all the competition in sports in SoCal, we need the exposure. Hell, Ducks clinched a playoff spot tonight and it was on local UHF channel KODC 56. Channel 56 on your rabbit ears TV! That sucks. We need better exposure.

I know you dont want to hear it but GO DUCKS!

BTW: I know tha tthey reseed after 1st round but is that also for the division winners? If Avs or Calgary fall behind the Ducks in points, will the Ducks be a higher seed if both teams make round 2?

[24champ]

Originally Posted by broncocalijohn

Come on cb, when fing ucla was in the Basketball finals, I swallowed my pride, put the USC shirt down and rooted for the West Coast regardless of the rivalry. Ducks making a good run will bring more fans to hockey. With all the competition in sports in SoCal, we need the exposure. Hell, Ducks clinched a playoff spot tonight and it was on local UHF channel KODC 56. Channel 56 on your rabbit ears TV! That sucks. We need better exposure.

I know you dont want to hear it but GO DUCKS!

BTW: I know tha tthey reseed after 1st round but is that also for the division winners? If Avs or Calgary fall behind the Ducks in points, will the Ducks be a higher seed if both teams make round 2?

No offense john but last thing I want to hear is Ducks won the stanley cup, what have the kings done? I couldnt live with a team down the I-5 that has won the cup, just wouldnt be right. I forgot to mention that I also wouldnt root for a Canadian team. Sorry but canandians are a-holes when it comes to hockey.So yeah john I would root for your Ducks if they played Calgay Flamers.

[broncocalijohn]

Originally Posted by 24champbailey

No offense john but last thing I want to hear is Ducks won the stanley cup, what have the kings done? I couldnt live with a team down the I-5 that has won the cup, just wouldnt be right. I forgot to mention that I also wouldnt root for a Canadian team. Sorry but canandians are a-holes when it comes to hockey.So yeah john I would root for your Ducks if they played Calgay Flamers.

back handed compliment? i guess ill take one game possibility. Screw any of the canucks.

[24champ]

Originally Posted by broncocalijohn

back handed compliment? i guess ill take one game possibility. Screw any of the canucks.

Well lets be frank, your ducks team is the hottest team in the NHL with Giggy in between the pipes. All cylinders are firing for that squad so they have a very good chance. For some reason I just like the Sharks better than the Ducks, maybe because I met Irbe and Nolan back in the day.

[Breck Bronc]

Originally Posted by 24champbailey

fixed it.

That series was in 1993, not 1994.

[Clockwork Orange]

Just saw on the morning news that Alex Tanguay will be back in the lineup tonight against Phoenix.

[Bronx33]

Just freakin win



GAME: Phoenix Coyotes (36-37-5) at Colorado Avalanche (42-28-8).

TIME: Tuesday, 9 p.m. EDT.

Though he was injured with a fractured heel and had lost his starting job, the Colorado Avalanche acquired goaltender Jose Theodore in a trade last month to give them a veteran presence heading into the postseason.

Theodore is scheduled to make his first start with his new team when the Avalanche close out their home schedule looking for a season-series sweep of the Phoenix Coyotes.

Colorado is one of four teams looking for the final three playoff berths in the Western Conference. With 93 points, the Avs are in seventh place, one point behind sixth-place San Jose.

Colorado also has a two-point lead over eighth-place Edmonton, and is three ahead of ninth-place Vancouver. The Avs, who have made the postseason each year since moving to Denver from Quebec in 1995, ends the regular season on the road against Calgary, Vancouver and Edmonton.

A win in this contest, though, could give them some much-needed momentum they need before going on the road. Colorado has won five in a row and seven of its last eight meetings against Phoenix.

The plan was to have Theodore make his Colorado debut in this game. But after Peter Budaj allowed two goals on the first three shots he faced Monday versus Minnesota, Theodore was pressed into his first action since Jan. 31.

The former Hart and Vezina Trophy winner finished with 16 saves in the 5-2 loss.

"I felt a little rust," said Theodore, acquired from Montreal for goaltender David Aebischer. "Overall, it was good just to be able to get in the game like that to work on little details.

"It's never easy when you walk in when you're not starting and you just go in. But I'm happy that I was able to play a couple of periods before my start. I did some good things. I did some things I wasn't solid technically. I felt more comfortable as the game went on and that's what I wanted."

Joe Sakic has an assist Monday, giving him nine goals and 15 assists in a 13-game points streak. He needs a point in this contest to match the longest points streak of his career.

Sakic had 16 goals and 11 assists in 14 straight games from Feb. 29-March 29, 2000. He also has four goals and six assists in seven straight games versus the Coyotes.

Phoenix dropped its fourth in a row with a 3-2 loss Monday to San Jose. Mike Comrie and Steve Reinprecht scored for the Coyotes, who will play three of their final games on the road including this contest.

"We battled hard and got some pucks on net but we just didn't get enough pucks and enough opportunities," Comrie said.

STANDINGS: Coyotes - 77 points, 5th place, 30 PB, Pacific Division. Avalanche - 92 points, 2nd place, 6 PB, Northwest Division.

TEAM LEADERS: Coyotes - Shane Doan, 29 goals, 35 assists and 64 points; Sean O'Donnell, 121 PIM. Avalanche - Sakic, 31 goals, 54 assists and 85 points; Ian Laperriere, 109 PIM.

SPECIAL TEAMS: Coyotes - Power play: 18.0 percent (92 for 511), 16th in NHL. Penalty killing: 80.6 percent (391 for 485), 23rd. Avalanche - Power play: 19.2 percent (86 for 449), 7th. Penalty killing: 84.0 percent (356 for 424), 8th.

GOALTENDERS: Coyotes - Curtis Joseph (30-21-3, 2 SO, 3.01 GAA); Philippe Sauve (3-6-0, 0, 3.54). Avalanche - Theodore (17-15-5, 0, 3.46); Budaj (14-11-6, 2, 2.86).

SEASON SERIES: Avalanche, 3-0.

LAST MEETING: Dec. 31; Avalanche, 5-2. At Glendale, Ariz., Laperriere scored two goals for Colorado, which got 30 saves from Budaj. Geoff Sanderson had a goal and an assist for the Coyotes.

ROAD/HOME RECORDS: Coyotes - 18-19-1 on the road; Avalanche - 24-10-6 at home.

[BMF Bronco]

we going to make the playoffs or not?! This $hit is getting too close!

[Bronx33]

This guy has been fantastic all season..

http://www.nhl.com/news/2006/04/268086.html

[Mtbrncofn]

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

Just saw on the morning news that Alex Tanguay will be back in the lineup tonight against Phoenix.

Great news. I have a board meeting tonight, but I'm going to use this really lame excuse to get out a bit early.