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Old 02-06-2006, 11:15 PM   #701
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I have a feeling the Wings will flame out spectacularly like they did in 1995, 1999, 2000, 2001 and 2003. I've never seen a good team fall apart like the Red Wings have in the playoffs over the years; swept by the Devils, lose 4 straight to the Avs after being up 2 games to none, wimper out in 5 games to the Avs, lose 4 straight to the Kings after being up 2 games to none (including losing a 3-0 lead with six minutes to go in game 4!!!), and swept away by the Ducks. I won't even count the 1994, 1996, and 2004 teams in the choke catergory even though the Wings were heavily favored against San Jose, Colorado, and Calgary, respectively.
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That ranks right up there in one of the best kings game ever! The best game I watched was when Wayne led us to the stanley cup by winning game 7 in Toronto.
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Old 02-07-2006, 12:01 PM   #702
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EWING, N.J. (AP) - Phoenix Coyotes assistant coach Rick Tocchet is accused of financing a nationwide sports gambling ring in which about a dozen current NHL players placed bets, authorities said Tuesday.

Tocchet, a former NHL star, was served with a criminal complaint Monday and was expected to travel from his Arizona home to answer charges of promoting gambling, money laundering and conspiracy, state police Col. Rick Fuentes said.

Fuentes said an investigation into the New Jersey-based ring discovered the processing of more than 1,000 wagers, exceeding $1.7 million US, on professional and college sports, mostly football and baseball. He declined to identify the NHL players who reportedly made wagers.

Authorities allege Tocchet and state police Trooper James J. Harney were partners in the operation and that the ex-NHL forward provided the financing.

A message left with the Coyotes' media office in Arizona was not immediately returned. The Coyotes were home Tuesday night against Chicago.



Tocchet, one of three associate coaches on the Coyotes' staff, took over the head coaching duties for 10 days in December while Wayne Gretzky was away to be with his dying mother.

The 41-year-old Tocchet played 18 years with six teams, including three seasons with the Coyotes from 1997-2000. He is one of only two players in NHL history to collect 400 goals and 2,000 penalty minutes during his career.

The 40-year-old Harney was arrested Monday. The eight-year police veteran was charged in an arrest warrant with official misconduct, promoting gambling, money laundering and conspiracy.

Another man accused of taking bets is James A. Ulmer, 40, who was charged with promoting gambling, money laundering and conspiracy.

Both men were free on bail. They are expected to be arraigned within two weeks.
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Old 02-07-2006, 12:28 PM   #703
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EWING, N.J. (AP) - Phoenix Coyotes assistant coach Rick Tocchet is accused of financing a nationwide sports gambling ring in which about a dozen current NHL players placed bets, authorities said Tuesday.

Tocchet, a former NHL star, was served with a criminal complaint Monday and was expected to travel from his Arizona home to answer charges of promoting gambling, money laundering and conspiracy, state police Col. Rick Fuentes said.

Fuentes said an investigation into the New Jersey-based ring discovered the processing of more than 1,000 wagers, exceeding $1.7 million US, on professional and college sports, mostly football and baseball. He declined to identify the NHL players who reportedly made wagers.

Authorities allege Tocchet and state police Trooper James J. Harney were partners in the operation and that the ex-NHL forward provided the financing.

A message left with the Coyotes' media office in Arizona was not immediately returned. The Coyotes were home Tuesday night against Chicago.



Tocchet, one of three associate coaches on the Coyotes' staff, took over the head coaching duties for 10 days in December while Wayne Gretzky was away to be with his dying mother.

The 41-year-old Tocchet played 18 years with six teams, including three seasons with the Coyotes from 1997-2000. He is one of only two players in NHL history to collect 400 goals and 2,000 penalty minutes during his career.

The 40-year-old Harney was arrested Monday. The eight-year police veteran was charged in an arrest warrant with official misconduct, promoting gambling, money laundering and conspiracy.

Another man accused of taking bets is James A. Ulmer, 40, who was charged with promoting gambling, money laundering and conspiracy.

Both men were free on bail. They are expected to be arraigned within two weeks.

jeez, didn't anyone learn from Art Schilster and Pete Rose?
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Old 02-07-2006, 12:29 PM   #704
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I wonder if jose theodore's dad was in that?
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Old 02-07-2006, 06:30 PM   #705
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I wonder if jose theodore's dad was in that?
Yeah...he provided the muscle to collect on the deadbeats.

This really is a non-story though. At this point another story showing the NHL in a poor light is akin to finding out that the High School slut got knocked up on prom night.

The NHL has done nothing to promote itself under Bettman...so of course the only news is going to be negative.
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Old 02-07-2006, 06:40 PM   #706
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Might not be Jose's dad, but Janet Jones (The Great One's wife) is said to have made some bets.
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Old 02-07-2006, 06:42 PM   #707
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It'll be interesting to see if the players who placed bets names come out.
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Old 02-07-2006, 06:44 PM   #708
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I think it was ESPN that said 11 current players have made bets
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Old 02-07-2006, 10:01 PM   #709
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I think it was ESPN that said 11 current players have made bets

way to blow their chance at getting out of the sports cellar,
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On a good note the avs beat the oiler 5-2 tonight and played 60 full minutes!
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In a goal-review fest to boot! Good way to celebrate Aebi's birthday.
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Old 02-07-2006, 10:08 PM   #712
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It'll be interesting to see if the players who placed bets names come out.

What are the odds Roenick was involved?
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Old 02-07-2006, 10:11 PM   #713
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Man these guys get it on a silver platter and just have to have more.
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Utterly shocking. I'm not speculating though.
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They did not bet on Hockey is what im hearing so this is a non-story really.
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Old 02-07-2006, 10:46 PM   #717
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They did not bet on Hockey is what im hearing so this is a non-story really.

Hmm, didn't a certain Pete Rose say that too?
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State police Col. Rick Fuentes said an investigation into the New Jersey-based ring discovered the processing of more than 1,000 wagers, exceeding $1.7 million, on professional and college sports, mostly football and basketball.
I dont see hockey mentioned......


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"We understand that Mr. Tocchet's conduct in no way involved betting on hockey," NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly said. "And, while betting on football or other sports may be the pervasive issue, it in no way justifies poor judgment or otherwise alleged inappropriate conduct."
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I dont see your facts that NHL games were being bet on, right now its all speculation.
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I never said I had any facts. I just made a comment. Settle down, boy.

Btw, did you think if they were betting on hockey, they were just going to come out and say 'hell yeah I was betting on hockey' ?

And yes....it is speculation.
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I never said I had any facts. I just made a comment. Settle down, boy.

Btw, did you think if they were betting on hockey, they were just going to come out and say 'hell yeah I was betting on hockey' ?

And yes....it is speculation.
i agree its all speculation, but wouldnt it be stupid for the league to come out and say the betting is not on Hockey? If it somehow the betting is traced back to Hockey then the League is screwed. So I dont understand why the league would risk putting themselves in that position.
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They did not bet on Hockey is what im hearing so this is a non-story really.

It is a non-story....but this is low that is Espin...

They called it a "Massive" Widespread" gambling ring that netted....15 seconds of Super Bowl commercial time...wow...big money...2 mill...call the tresury...the deficit is about to be solved. And then Espin tries to drag the Great One and his wife into it when Espin as exactly zero facts. Espin is a complete joke. Then they try to combine it with a story from ten years ago about a mob boss sitting in Lindross's seats in Philly. Espin is trying to dog Hockey's most visiable pro, gambling on basketball...and a 10 year-old non-story to make the NHL look bad and it's totally irresponsible.

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If I were the NHL...when this is done...I'd sue them for slander and fraud...and anything else I could put in there.
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And I don't even like ice strikey,,,I mean hockey.
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It is a non-story....but this is low that is Espin...

They called it a "Massive" Widespread" gambling ring that netted....15 seconds of Super Bowl commercial time...wow...big money...2 mill...call the tresury...the deficit is about to be solved. And then Espin tries to drag the Great One and his wife into it when Espin as exactly zero facts. Espin is a complete joke. Then they try to combine it with a story from ten years ago about a mob boss sitting in Lindross's seats in Philly. Espin is trying to dog Hockey's most visiable pro, gambling on basketball...and a 10 year-old non-story to make the NHL look bad and it's totally irresponsible.
I watched that and thought what a crock story that was. I guess that is ESPN for ya. Cant wait for the NHL network next fall!
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