General Hockey Thread v2.0 - Page 190 - The Orange Mane

Clockwork Orange · 06-24-2006, 09:26 PM

I always meant to show off some more of my Avs stuff (I showed a bit on the Post Your Pic thread), here's a couple of other items I enjoy.

Clockwork Orange · 06-24-2006, 09:28 PM

St. Patrick

Jori · 06-24-2006, 09:30 PM

DU retruit JESSE MARTIN drafted by Atlanta with pick 195

Jori · 06-24-2006, 09:32 PM

Avs draft Billy Sauer, goaltender out of Michigan, with their final pick at #201. This could be a STEAL!

Clockwork Orange · 06-24-2006, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jori

Avs draft Billy Sauer, goaltender out of Michigan, with their final pick at #201. This could be a STEAL!

It could just be my NCAA hockey bias, but I like it.

Jori · 06-24-2006, 09:44 PM

Okay, I think this is what happened. Apparently pick #110 belonged to the Islanders in the Mike Peca trade. The Avs gave up their 5th and 6th round picks for that 4th round pick to select Mongtomery.

So for the second straight draft, the Avs do not select any European players. The Avs also used four of their six picks on NCAA players. When you take into account last year's draft that's 9 of 15 selections used on college players.

Clockwork Orange · 06-24-2006, 09:58 PM

And the Canes make Justin Kreuger this years Mr. Irrelevant. Congrats Justin.

I have to say that I'm very happy overall with the Avs draft. They seemed to hold true to form in going with the best player available rather than drafting for need.

I applaud them again, they're doing a fine job of rebuilding the farm system.

Now they need to justify this Tanguay trade by going out on the open market and spending the cap space they saved by trading him on an upgrade for the team......namely on defense. There are a glut of nice looking free agent defensemen and the Avs now should have the flexibility to make a serious run at one of them.

Today was a good day, hopefully there's more to come in a week.

Clockwork Orange · 06-24-2006, 10:09 PM

Phone Calls Pouring In For Pronger

VANCOUVER (CP) - Kevin Lowe was a little busier than he thought he'd be considering the Edmonton Oilers didn't have a first-round pick in Saturday's NHL entry draft.

The Oilers GM's cellphone was ringing non-stop a day after star defenceman Chris Pronger and his agent officially asked for a trade due to personal reasons.

"I thought I was coming here and going to have a nice, quiet draft and sit around and wait for the second round for our pick," Lowe said. "But there's been a lot of talk, at the same time we have to be careful not to react too quickly and do the right thing.

"There's no question there's a lot of interest. It's almost like having the first pick, you get all the calls."

Lowe was coy Friday when first asked about Pronger's trade request but by Saturday acknowledged his new-round reality.

"We're certainly going to look around because the (trade) request was made, but we're not going to be knee-jerk to anything," said Lowe. "We'll do it, like we always have, when it's in the best interests of the hockey club."

Pronger, coming off an MVP-like playoff performance, has four more years on his contract paying him $6.25 million a season - worth every dime.

There won't be a shortage of suitors because of it and Lowe isn't handcuffed by having to try and deal him to specific U.S. cities.

"Not really, he doesn't have a no-trade clause so there can't be many stipulations," said Lowe. "But I don't want to get into the particulars. If we do in fact pursue it, there will be all the options we need."

Lowe, in fact, knew for quite a while that Pronger might demand a trade because of the personal situation in question but it still didn't dull the blow Friday.

"Yes I knew but I was always hoping that things would change," said Lowe. "It's a personal matter and I don't want to get into it from their perspective. It's not like it caught me by surprise but it's still a shot in the gut after you finally digest it."

Lowe still used the word "if" when discussing a Pronger trade, leaving the door slightly open that perhaps a move could be avoided.

"My favourite motto is expect the unexpected but I don't want to lead anybody on. I just don't know what will happen," Lowe said.

"For our fans, everything will work out. We'll make sure it does."

The Oilers finally did get to draft Saturday, selecting Michigan native Jeff Petry 45th overall, a 6-2, 176-pound right-handed defenceman who is an agile skater. He had 15 points (1-14) in 48 games with Des Moines of the USHL this past season.

"We had him rated in the top 15 on our list," said Oilers scouting director Kevin Prendergast. "Our scouts really, really liked him only because of the upside. We're a little thin on defence within the organization and we think he's going to be able to play for us in four or five years."

Lowe, meanwhile, has his work cut out these days. He has nine players headed for unrestricted free agency next Saturday, chief among them goalie Dwayne Roloson. Lowe has already contacted Roloson's agent.

"We've made an offer," said Lowe. "And let's leave it at that."

Clockwork Orange · 06-24-2006, 10:17 PM

Naturally, Oiler fans are extremely pleased by all of this.

WABronco · 06-24-2006, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

Naturally, Oiler fans are extremely pleased by all of this.

Talk about a cheap excuse for a trade demand...

Tredici · 06-24-2006, 11:27 PM

He has nine players headed for unrestricted free agency next Saturday, chief among them goalie Dwayne Roloson.

Wow. That could close the window of Stanley opportunity rather quickly... Luongo had better be Superman. Or his coming perceived as him being one.

Clockwork Orange · 06-25-2006, 01:54 AM

Some shots of the Avs 1st rounder, Chris Stewart.

Clockwork Orange · 06-25-2006, 01:56 AM

And another.

Hercules Rockefeller · 06-25-2006, 08:56 AM

So did anyone read Dater's article on Stewart this morning? I like the pick for the Avs and would have loved the Caps to have traded up for him, but to say some predraft scouting surveys had him as a Top 10 is a total load of BS. This draft was considered 10-12 deep, and Chris was never rated in that range. But I'm sure I'll get to hear Moser and Clough talk about this on Monday like it's a fact.

Clockwork Orange · 06-25-2006, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hercules Rockefeller

So did anyone read Dater's article on Stewart this morning? I like the pick for the Avs and would have loved the Caps to have traded up for him, but to say some predraft scouting surveys had him as a Top 10 is a total load of BS. This draft was considered 10-12 deep, and Chris was never rated in that range. But I'm sure I'll get to hear Moser and Clough talk about this on Monday like it's a fact.

I know that Central Scouting had Stewart as the 8th ranked North American skater. Perhaps Dater saw that list and interpreted it as Stewart being ranked as the 8th best prospect in the draft. Either that or he's just making things up, I dunno.

Clockwork Orange · 06-25-2006, 02:03 PM

Edmonton fans are out of their minds. Just reading some of their Pronger trade threads on a couple of different boards and they've thrown around names like Staal, Kovalchuk, Crosby, Malkin and Nash. Someone there also said that "Pronger's value is twice what it was when the Oilers traded for him a year ago."

Reminds me a lot of the Mike Comrie situation from a few years ago. In their minds he was a future Hart Trophy winner and they wouldn't settle for less than a king's ransom for their "superstar." They're not quite as bad as Toronto fans (I'll never forget the Cory Cross, Jonas Hoglund & an 8th round pick for any superstar in the NHL proposals they used to throw out there constantly) but their not that far off either.

Nuggets4 · 06-25-2006, 02:06 PM

What are some of the good hockey boards CO?

Clockwork Orange · 06-25-2006, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nuggets4

What are some of the good hockey boards CO?

The two that I lurk around are www.hfboards.com and http://mb.scout.com/bhockey.

Clockwork Orange · 06-25-2006, 02:11 PM

Some images of the new prospects.

Nicklas Backstrom (AO's new best friend

)

Michael Neuwirth

Michael Carman

Chris Stewart

Clockwork Orange · 06-25-2006, 02:16 PM

Carl Sneep

Jordan Staal

Nuggets4 · 06-25-2006, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

The two that I lurk around are www.hfboards.com and http://mb.scout.com/bhockey.

Thanks man.

Hercules Rockefeller · 06-25-2006, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

I know that Central Scouting had Stewart as the 8th ranked North American skater. Perhaps Dater saw that list and interpreted it as Stewart being ranked as the 8th best prospect in the draft. Either that or he's just making things up, I dunno.

I saw at the Avs site they've got him as the 8th best NA skater, but that list is accurate as of 4-20. I really hope Adrian didn't go off of a 2 month old list when he wrote the article.

Hercules Rockefeller · 06-25-2006, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

Nicklas Backstrom (AO's new best friend

)

Ditch the mullet

SoCalBronco · 06-25-2006, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

Carl Sneep

Jordan Staal

Thanks for the pictures, CO.

Although I am still really bummed out over Shero failing to pry JJ from Carolina. I read he rejected a straight up trade and insisted on getting Ladd in addition and that's how it just fell apart. Im so ****ing pissed right now. I like Sneep and Strait though.

Clockwork Orange · 06-25-2006, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

Although I am still really bummed out over Shero failing to pry JJ from Carolina. I read he rejected a straight up trade and insisted on getting Ladd in addition and that's how it just fell apart.

If that's true, that's just Shero being greedy.

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06-24-2006, 09:30 PM	#4728
Jori US Olympian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,631	DU retruit JESSE MARTIN drafted by Atlanta with pick 195

06-24-2006, 09:32 PM	#4729
Jori US Olympian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,631	Avs draft Billy Sauer, goaltender out of Michigan, with their final pick at #201. This could be a STEAL!

06-24-2006, 09:44 PM	#4731
Jori US Olympian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,631	Okay, I think this is what happened. Apparently pick #110 belonged to the Islanders in the Mike Peca trade. The Avs gave up their 5th and 6th round picks for that 4th round pick to select Mongtomery. So for the second straight draft, the Avs do not select any European players. The Avs also used four of their six picks on NCAA players. When you take into account last year's draft that's 9 of 15 selections used on college players.

06-24-2006, 09:58 PM	#4732
Clockwork Orange Persona Non Grata I seen him! Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,438	And the Canes make Justin Kreuger this years Mr. Irrelevant. Congrats Justin. I have to say that I'm very happy overall with the Avs draft. They seemed to hold true to form in going with the best player available rather than drafting for need. I applaud them again, they're doing a fine job of rebuilding the farm system. Now they need to justify this Tanguay trade by going out on the open market and spending the cap space they saved by trading him on an upgrade for the team......namely on defense. There are a glut of nice looking free agent defensemen and the Avs now should have the flexibility to make a serious run at one of them. Today was a good day, hopefully there's more to come in a week.

06-24-2006, 10:09 PM	#4733
Clockwork Orange Persona Non Grata I seen him! Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,438	Phone Calls Pouring In For Pronger VANCOUVER (CP) - Kevin Lowe was a little busier than he thought he'd be considering the Edmonton Oilers didn't have a first-round pick in Saturday's NHL entry draft. The Oilers GM's cellphone was ringing non-stop a day after star defenceman Chris Pronger and his agent officially asked for a trade due to personal reasons. "I thought I was coming here and going to have a nice, quiet draft and sit around and wait for the second round for our pick," Lowe said. "But there's been a lot of talk, at the same time we have to be careful not to react too quickly and do the right thing. "There's no question there's a lot of interest. It's almost like having the first pick, you get all the calls." Lowe was coy Friday when first asked about Pronger's trade request but by Saturday acknowledged his new-round reality. "We're certainly going to look around because the (trade) request was made, but we're not going to be knee-jerk to anything," said Lowe. "We'll do it, like we always have, when it's in the best interests of the hockey club." Pronger, coming off an MVP-like playoff performance, has four more years on his contract paying him $6.25 million a season - worth every dime. There won't be a shortage of suitors because of it and Lowe isn't handcuffed by having to try and deal him to specific U.S. cities. "Not really, he doesn't have a no-trade clause so there can't be many stipulations," said Lowe. "But I don't want to get into the particulars. If we do in fact pursue it, there will be all the options we need." Lowe, in fact, knew for quite a while that Pronger might demand a trade because of the personal situation in question but it still didn't dull the blow Friday. "Yes I knew but I was always hoping that things would change," said Lowe. "It's a personal matter and I don't want to get into it from their perspective. It's not like it caught me by surprise but it's still a shot in the gut after you finally digest it." Lowe still used the word "if" when discussing a Pronger trade, leaving the door slightly open that perhaps a move could be avoided. "My favourite motto is expect the unexpected but I don't want to lead anybody on. I just don't know what will happen," Lowe said. "For our fans, everything will work out. We'll make sure it does." The Oilers finally did get to draft Saturday, selecting Michigan native Jeff Petry 45th overall, a 6-2, 176-pound right-handed defenceman who is an agile skater. He had 15 points (1-14) in 48 games with Des Moines of the USHL this past season. "We had him rated in the top 15 on our list," said Oilers scouting director Kevin Prendergast. "Our scouts really, really liked him only because of the upside. We're a little thin on defence within the organization and we think he's going to be able to play for us in four or five years." Lowe, meanwhile, has his work cut out these days. He has nine players headed for unrestricted free agency next Saturday, chief among them goalie Dwayne Roloson. Lowe has already contacted Roloson's agent. "We've made an offer," said Lowe. "And let's leave it at that."

06-24-2006, 10:17 PM	#4734
Clockwork Orange Persona Non Grata I seen him! Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,438	Naturally, Oiler fans are extremely pleased by all of this.

06-24-2006, 11:27 PM	#4736
Tredici Ring of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 10,010	He has nine players headed for unrestricted free agency next Saturday, chief among them goalie Dwayne Roloson. Wow. That could close the window of Stanley opportunity rather quickly... Luongo had better be Superman. Or his coming perceived as him being one.

06-25-2006, 08:56 AM	#4739
Hercules Rockefeller Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 16,005 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ Williams	So did anyone read Dater's article on Stewart this morning? I like the pick for the Avs and would have loved the Caps to have traded up for him, but to say some predraft scouting surveys had him as a Top 10 is a total load of BS. This draft was considered 10-12 deep, and Chris was never rated in that range. But I'm sure I'll get to hear Moser and Clough talk about this on Monday like it's a fact.

06-25-2006, 02:03 PM	#4741
Clockwork Orange Persona Non Grata I seen him! Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,438	Edmonton fans are out of their minds. Just reading some of their Pronger trade threads on a couple of different boards and they've thrown around names like Staal, Kovalchuk, Crosby, Malkin and Nash. Someone there also said that "Pronger's value is twice what it was when the Oilers traded for him a year ago." Reminds me a lot of the Mike Comrie situation from a few years ago. In their minds he was a future Hart Trophy winner and they wouldn't settle for less than a king's ransom for their "superstar." They're not quite as bad as Toronto fans (I'll never forget the Cory Cross, Jonas Hoglund & an 8th round pick for any superstar in the NHL proposals they used to throw out there constantly) but their not that far off either.

06-25-2006, 02:06 PM	#4742
Nuggets4 Requisite Nugs Die-Hard Buffaloes, Buffaloes, Go C-U! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 4,360 Adopt-a-Bronco: Allen Iverson	What are some of the good hockey boards CO?

06-25-2006, 02:11 PM	#4744
Clockwork Orange Persona Non Grata I seen him! Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,438	Some images of the new prospects. Nicklas Backstrom (AO's new best friend ) Michael Neuwirth Michael Carman Chris Stewart

06-25-2006, 02:16 PM	#4745
Clockwork Orange Persona Non Grata I seen him! Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,438	Carl Sneep Jordan Staal