General Hockey Thread v2.0

[DBruleU]

It's amazing how similar this playoff run is to the 2004 playoff run by the Avs. They play great in the 1st round against Dallas, winning the series 4-1, and then they get matched up against another Cali team, and go down 3-0.

The Avs are horrible at playing well in back-to-back playoff series.

[Mtbrncofn]

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

On the bright side (and yes, there is one) Jose Theodore was awesome tonight. He did all he could to steal this one and made several highlight reel saves just to get this game to OT. It didn't end up getting the Avs a win tonight, but it bodes well for the future. He looks like he's finally rounding into form and getting his confidence back.

I agree. He was great tonight. Just too bad the rest of the team is choking for him.

I also think they better check and see what was in that can Lupul was sniffing.

[Pendejo]

Originally Posted by mtbrncofn

Maybe the Sabres want Tang, and we'll take Dru back.

Hah!!! Yeah right. Tanguay is skilled, but mentally week...and Drury ****s icicles.

Great idea though...mt.

[Mtbrncofn]

Originally Posted by DBruleU

It's amazing how similar this playoff run is to the 2004 playoff run by the Avs. They play great in the 1st round against Dallas, winning the series 4-1, and then they get matched up against another Cali team, and go down 3-0.

The Avs are horrible at playing well in back-to-back playoff series.

Those ****ing California teams.

[Pendejo]

Originally Posted by DBruleU

It's amazing how similar this playoff run is to the 2004 playoff run by the Avs. They play great in the 1st round against Dallas, winning the series 4-1, and then they get matched up against another Cali team, and go down 3-0.

The Avs are horrible at playing well in back-to-back playoff series.

They've got two Stanley Cup wins, and a few other trips to the conference finals that says you're full of ****...potzer.

[Mtbrncofn]

Originally Posted by Pendejo

Hah!!! Yeah right. Tanguay is skilled, but mentally week...and Drury ****s icicles.

Great idea though...mt.

It was, wasn't it? Works for me!

[Kid A]

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

What's really sad is that a lot of idiots around this town will only remember Tanguay's heroics in game 7 of the 2001 Finals and pretend not to notice the fact that he's historically been a non-factor in the playoffs.

I have to agree with Jori, time to explore trade possibilities for him this summer.

On the bright side (and yes, there is one) Jose Theodore was awesome tonight. He did all he could to steal this one and made several highlight reel saves just to get this game to OT. It didn't end up getting the Avs a win tonight, but it bodes well for the future. He looks like he's finally rounding into form and getting his confidence back.

I'd have to agree with all this. Coming into this season I suppose I was still a Tanguay homer, but without Forsberg he has been worthless. It was fun to watch a competitive game, but you hate to see it end on a dumb-@ss mistake. I'll be interested to see what Lacroix does in the offseason. The Theo trade is looking good thus far, but his Turgeon and Breezy have killed us this series.

[Kid A]

Originally Posted by DBruleU

It's amazing how similar this playoff run is to the 2004 playoff run by the Avs. They play great in the 1st round against Dallas, winning the series 4-1, and then they get matched up against another Cali team, and go down 3-0.

The Avs are horrible at playing well in back-to-back playoff series.

They're historically bad at closing out series', but these last couple playoffs are the first time they've looked so good one series and like crap another. I'm not super dissapointed that this team isn't going past the second round, I just wish they had looked better. I suppose they can still save some face like the San JOse series, but I doubt it.

[DBruleU]

Originally Posted by Pendejo

They've got two Stanley Cup wins, and a few other trips to the conference finals that says you're full of ****...potzer.

True. But as of late, the Avs have not been able to stay consistent in the playoffs. I understand how many cups they have won.

[Pendejo]

I thought that Tanguay was going to be an UFA after this season? Is that not the case?

[Clockwork Orange]

Originally Posted by Pendejo

I thought that Tanguay was going to be an UFA after this season? Is that not the case?

RFA.

[Mtbrncofn]

Originally Posted by Kid A

They're historically bad at closing out series', but these last couple playoffs are the first time they've looked so good one series and like crap another. I'm not super dissapointed that this team isn't going past the second round, I just wish they had looked better. I suppose they can still save some face like the San JOse series, but I doubt it.

Honestly, the SJ series just prolonged the agony. We all got so excited that we maybe had a shot at pulling it out, only to be kicked in the balls. ( Figuratively speaking here. )

[Pendejo]

Originally Posted by DBruleU

True. But as of late, the Avs have not been able to stay consistent in the playoffs. I understand how many cups they have won.

Their two postseason exits previous to this year (Minnesota/San Jose) had a lot to do with the amount of clutching and grabbing that the NHL allowed. Teams were able to negate their superior skill with glorified minor leaguers.

Assuming they lose this series...it will be the first time they lost a playoff series to a team that simply played better pure hockey than them...since the Red Wings bounced them in seven in 2002.

[Pendejo]

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

RFA.

Ok. Then move him. He's not going to live up to his potential in Colorado. He's soft mentally...that's why he had a hard time with Hartley.

He has value. He did put up some solid numbers this season.

[Clockwork Orange]

Originally Posted by Pendejo

Ok. Then move him. He's not going to live up to his potential in Colorado. He's soft mentally...that's why he had a hard time with Hartley.

He has value. He did put up some solid numbers this season.

He'd be good for a young team without any real expectations or a team trying to get over the hump and get into the playoffs. Florida would be a good spot for him.

[Mtbrncofn]

Jokinen for Tang. Uh huh.

[Jori]

Perhaps the Avs should play somebody other then Dallas in the first round. Seems like they have some false sense of security going into the second round.

I thought the Ducks would be a better matchup then San Jose, I can admit that I was wrong. I underestimated Anaheim. Perhaps it wouldn't have mattered whether it was San Jose or Anaheim, the Avs would have been over matched. Obviously, the Avs can't make any wholesale changes because of the cap, but it looks like goaltending wont be an issue. Theodore was great tonight, unfortunately, some of his team mates did not help him out.

This team needs to get stronger. If you can convince Turgeon to retire...do it. If you can find anybody stupid enough to take Brisebois, do it. If not, buy him out or have him play in Albany next year. Tanguay has always dazzled us, but he can't seem to remove his head from his ass at times. He has been absolutely dreadful sans game three of the Dallas series. He's 26 and making around $3 million. The strength of the Avs prospect system are their forwards. Wolski will be an Av full time next year and Stastny isn't too far behind. If you can find a young defenseman, I'd say it would be time to move Tanguay along.

You know people talk about Forsberg not being here, but the Avs will get just as far as they did in 04. I know I've been accused of overating him, but the Avs really miss the playoff magic of Chris Drury. It was the worst trade Lacroix has ever made.

[DBruleU]

Originally Posted by Pendejo

Their two postseason exits previous to this year (Minnesota/San Jose) had a lot to do with the amount of clutching and grabbing that the NHL allowed. Teams were able to negate their superior skill with glorified minor leaguers.

Assuming they lose this series...it will be the first time they lost a playoff series to a team that simply played better pure hockey than them...since the Red Wings bounced them in seven in 2002.

San Jose was definitely the better team two years ago. They outworked the Avs in San Jose, and then came into the Pepsi center and did ti again. We were lucky to win two before being shown the door.

[Clockwork Orange]

Originally Posted by Jori

If you can find a young defenseman, I'd say it would be time to move Tanguay along.

I wonder.......

[Mtbrncofn]

Originally Posted by DBruleU

San Jose was definitely the better team two years ago. They outworked the Avs in San Jose, and then came into the Pepsi center and did ti again. We were lucky to win two before being shown the door.

I disagree. They mauled us for those wins and the refs swallowed their whistles. There were so many non calls in that series. I'm not blaming it solely on the refs, but they had a huge part in it. SJ definitely had a lot of talent then, but we had more.

[Jori]

San Jose was better, but Hannan did wear Forsberg like a coat in that series.

[Bronx33]

[Mtbrncofn]

I wonder if Breeze had to have security escort him home.

[Pendejo]

Originally Posted by DBruleU

San Jose was definitely the better team two years ago. They outworked the Avs in San Jose, and then came into the Pepsi center and did ti again. We were lucky to win two before being shown the door.

Nonsense. Scott Hannan was allowed to ride piggy back on Peter Forsberg's back up and down the ice. He neutralized the best two way player in hockey (when healthy) without being able to skate. The Sharks constantly interferred with Aebischer with no calls...whilst an Avalanche player got called for interence (Forsberg) while in posession of the puck and scoring a f***ing goal.

You're welcome to your opinion...but you're flat out wrong on this. There is a reason that people wanted to see teams like the AVS, red wings, senators and even the canucks play prior to the lockout (there were a few others like the lightning, but they escape me)...it's because they played fast paced...skilled hockey. The NHL allowed teams like the Devils...the Wild...and even the Ducks in their run to the finals to erase fantastic skill with open ice muggings...with or without the puck...it didn't matter. It was to the league's detriment, and they've finally realized that. They've been rewarded with a fast paced exciting Stanley Cup playoffs this year.

Actually you may have a point...both the Wild, and the Sharks were better at playing pig slop hockey than the highly skilled, Avs, red wings...and even Toronto was able to out muck the Senators for years.

It was bull **** hockey...that the league has taken significant steps to rectify.

[Pendejo]

Originally Posted by Jori

San Jose was better, but Hannan did wear Forsberg like a coat in that series.

It's not often...but I couldn't disagree with you more on this one. I guess perhaps the sharks were better suited to the style of play, which was frusturating to watch. But I don't think they were a better team. Hannan "wearing forsberg like a coat" is my case in point. Making the best player in the world skate with an addition 200 plus pounds on his back goes a long way towards negating an entire line.

It doesn't matter now though...they won the series.

There's no doubt that the AVS are losing to a better team this year.