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Old 04-24-2006, 01:41 PM   #2651
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Old 04-24-2006, 01:47 PM   #2652
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If you absolutely mean you want Steve Moore retribution then so be it. Take a good look at your son. And then you can hope someday someone will pile drive his head into the ice. Breaks his neck. Causes permanent damage. But what the heck? You'll be a proud Dad for his contribution to "old style" hockey.



To wish that on anyone is beyond stupid. So let it be your son.


What Philly said was really nasty and stupid and uncalled for...but I can't believe you would stoop to something as mean as this as payback, Tred.

No biggie Sass. I looked right passed the comment. I don't get bent over personal attacks on a message board. If it got something off of Tred's chest, that's a good thing for her. She's more then welcome to vent just like I vented.
The thing that cracks me up is these so called hockey fans are sitting here saying they would feel it was a clean hit if it happened to Sakic. Nothing can be further from the truth. I'm trying to make the point that that particular hit (lowering the shoulder into a players jaw) should be banned. That's the major beef. Somehow, if it doesn't happen to an Av's player, it falls on deaf ears. They claim it's RJ's fault for "having his head down". They don't realize that RJ was doing what every player in the NHL does 10 times a game. he was looking back for the pass. He didn't have his head down, rather, he looked behind him for the pass.

Thanks for having my back (for Tred's comments), but, I never thought twice about the comments. I actually chuckled.
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RJ will play tonight. I stand by my comments!

As far as the Broad Street Bullies (Bow) are concerned..... They would Fock your ass up period. Thebig difference between that day in the NHl and today is there was a mutual respect from one player to another. They would'nt take hard plastic and smash it into your face. They did that with their fists. Also, if anyone dared to make a hit like that, that player knew they would have an entire bench skating after them. The reprocutions of an irresponsible hit like that would have meant that player would actually have to defend themself like a man.
Simple as that.

Call it a clean hit all you want. That type of hit (LOWERING the shoulder pad into the jaw/face) needs to be outlawed.
Explain how you can lower your shoulder into another man's face unless the dude's head was down. Even the recipient of the hit said it was fine...he just didn't expect it from a player like Campbell. It is a player's responsibility to protect himself too. Obviously you can't prevent a cheap shot, but you can avoid a hit like Campbells, or at least take some of the force out of it by looking where the f*** you're going.

Quick...send Umberger a message, and tell him that you're right and he's wrong.

Hypothetical question...what if the Flyers do as you want and A)Send Brashear to fight Campbell, but Campbell weathers the storm. Will that satisfy your bloodlust? Or do you demand that Campbell keeps fighting until he finally gets knocked out of the game? B) They take runs at him all night, and wind up in the penatly box and lose by about 7 goals? Will that do the trick?
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No biggie Sass. I looked right passed the comment. I don't get bent over personal attacks on a message board. If it got something off of Tred's chest, that's a good thing for her. She's more then welcome to vent just like I vented.
The thing that cracks me up is these so called hockey fans are sitting here saying they would feel it was a clean hit if it happened to Sakic. Nothing can be further from the truth. I'm trying to make the point that that particular hit (lowering the shoulder into a players jaw) should be banned. That's the major beef. Somehow, if it doesn't happen to an Av's player, it falls on deaf ears. They claim it's RJ's fault for "having his head down". They don't realize that RJ was doing what every player in the NHL does 10 times a game. he was looking back for the pass. He didn't have his head down, rather, he looked behind him for the pass.

Thanks for having my back (for Tred's comments), but, I never thought twice about the comments. I actually chuckled.
Watch the video again princess. He looks behind him for the pass, but he's looking down at the puck when he gets nailed.

By the way genius...the Avs have had players knocked clean out of the playoffs before...and I can't recall any of them acting like you...a la a sniveling little b!tch.
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Explain how you can lower your shoulder into another man's face unless the dude's head was down. Even the recipient of the hit said it was fine...he just didn't expect it from a player like Campbell. It is a player's responsibility to protect himself too. Obviously you can't prevent a cheap shot, but you can avoid a hit like Campbells, or at least take some of the force out of it by looking where the f*** you're going.

Quick...send Umberger a message, and tell him that you're right and he's wrong.

Hypothetical question...what if the Flyers do as you want and A)Send Brashear to fight Campbell, but Campbell weathers the storm. Will that satisfy your bloodlust? Or do you demand that Campbell keeps fighting until he finally gets knocked out of the game? B) They take runs at him all night, and wind up in the penatly box and lose by about 7 goals? Will that do the trick?

I don't have to explain how you lower your shoulder into a guys face. Look at the clip. It show's it perfectly.

Hypothetical answer..... Everytime he touchs the puck, get a body on him. That's the trick.
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Old 04-24-2006, 01:59 PM   #2656
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Watch the video again princess. He looks behind him for the pass, but he's looking down at the puck when he gets nailed.

By the way genius...the Avs have had players knocked clean out of the playoffs before...and I can't recall any of them acting like you...a la a sniveling little b!tch.

Atta boy. Feel better now?
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Watch the video again princess. He looks behind him for the pass, but he's looking down at the puck when he gets nailed.

By the way genius...the Avs have had players knocked clean out of the playoffs before...and I can't recall any of them acting like you...a la a sniveling little b!tch.

I just looked at the clip. He's not looking down. He just turned his head after taking the pass. What I did see though, is Campbell lowering his shoulder perfectly to land on Umby's face.
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I just looked at the clip. He's not looking down (Wrong). He just turned his head after taking the pass. What I did see though, is Campbell lowering his shoulder perfectly to land on Umby's face.
Right because his head was down.

Actually you finally have me convinced. Campbell should have greeted him with a big hug and a kiss, just gotten out of his way, or at the very least shouted out a warning.

Good thing you have a problem with it...because Umberger doesn't seem to.
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Right.

Actually you finally have me convinced. I should greet you with a big hug and a kiss.

Glad I could have been of service to you. I don't really kiss other men. It's okay if you slide that way, but I prefer woman. I'll gladly shake your hand though!
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No biggie Sass. I looked right passed the comment. I don't get bent over personal attacks on a message board. If it got something off of Tred's chest, that's a good thing for her. She's more then welcome to vent just like I vented.
The thing that cracks me up is these so called hockey fans are sitting here saying they would feel it was a clean hit if it happened to Sakic. Nothing can be further from the truth. I'm trying to make the point that that particular hit (lowering the shoulder into a players jaw) should be banned. That's the major beef. Somehow, if it doesn't happen to an Av's player, it falls on deaf ears. They claim it's RJ's fault for "having his head down". They don't realize that RJ was doing what every player in the NHL does 10 times a game. he was looking back for the pass. He didn't have his head down, rather, he looked behind him for the pass.

Thanks for having my back (for Tred's comments), but, I never thought twice about the comments. I actually chuckled.
It's ironic because Sakic was hit with a dirty check from behind on Saturday courtesy of Niklas Hagman.

And not just Avalanche fans say the hit was clean. Everyone, including other Flyers fans (and even Umberger himself), feels that Cambell's hit was brutal but within the rules.

Once again, Dimitrakos is most at fault for giving his teammate a suicide pass when he had ample time to skate the puck out of the zone himself.
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I just looked at the clip. He's not looking down. He just turned his head after taking the pass. What I did see though, is Campbell lowering his shoulder perfectly to land on Umby's face.
You would think he would try to avoid the hit if he saw it coming but he didn't ya wanna know why (he was looking for the puck) plus umby is bent over reaching for the puck, he pretty much teed himself up.
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Old 04-24-2006, 03:04 PM   #2662
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Hypothetical question...what if the Flyers do as you want and A)Send Brashear to fight Campbell, but Campbell weathers the storm. Will that satisfy your bloodlust? Or do you demand that Campbell keeps fighting until he finally gets knocked out of the game? B) They take runs at him all night, and wind up in the penatly box and lose by about 7 goals? Will that do the trick?
Maybe.

I, for one, fully expect Brashear, amongst others, to come out rockin' tonight and will be disappointed if they don't. That hit by Campbell, though clean, should be seen as a challenge to the Flyers manhood. As such, they should respond in kind. The Flyers need something to be fired up about IMO....they need other lines besides Pete's to show up...they've appeared totally flat to me and if that doesn't shake them out of it, nothing will.
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Maybe.

I, for one, fully expect Brashear, amongst others, to come out rockin' tonight and will be disappointed if they don't. That hit by Campbell, though clean, should be seen as a challenge to the Flyers manhood. As such, they should respond in kind. The Flyers need something to be fired up about IMO....they need other lines besides Pete's to show up...they've appeared totally flat to me and if that doesn't shake them out of it, nothing will.
It should raise the level (hopefully it's televised here) but the flyers have to be careful not to hurt themselves taking penalties.
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Maybe.

I, for one, fully expect Brashear, amongst others, to come out rockin' tonight and will be disappointed if they don't. That hit by Campbell, though clean, should be seen as a challenge to the Flyers manhood. As such, they should respond in kind. The Flyers need something to be fired up about IMO....they need other lines besides Pete's to show up...they've appeared totally flat to me and if that doesn't shake them out of it, nothing will.
Most people expected the Flyers to physically dominate the smaller, faster Sabres. Then Cambell goes out and does his best Scott Stevens impersonation.

The remaining games in this series are going to be real chippy and I'm going to be watching every second of it (that doesn't overlap with Avalanche games).
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No biggie Sass. I looked right passed the comment. I don't get bent over personal attacks on a message board. If it got something off of Tred's chest, that's a good thing for her. She's more then welcome to vent just like I vented.
The thing that cracks me up is these so called hockey fans are sitting here saying they would feel it was a clean hit if it happened to Sakic. Nothing can be further from the truth. I'm trying to make the point that that particular hit (lowering the shoulder into a players jaw) should be banned. That's the major beef. Somehow, if it doesn't happen to an Av's player, it falls on deaf ears. They claim it's RJ's fault for "having his head down". They don't realize that RJ was doing what every player in the NHL does 10 times a game. he was looking back for the pass. He didn't have his head down, rather, he looked behind him for the pass.

Thanks for having my back (for Tred's comments), but, I never thought twice about the comments. I actually chuckled.
This is a "so called" hockey fan who agrees that most fans would be screaming foul if it happened to any one of their team's players. That's a lot different than wishing for Steve Moore retribution. If you call my attack personal but yours simply the remark of "real" hockey fan, well, we find all sorts of justifications for our own duplicity.

By the way Sakic did take a cheap boarding shot in the Dallas game. Yet, strangely enough, I haven't seen one of the so called blind homie Av fans calling for any additional Dallas battering.

BTW - I knew you wouldn't take it personal when Sass got alarmed. But in all honestly wishing that type of injury on someone else is bush league.
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Just another flyer skating with his head down is all that happened. It was a clean hit, and by claiming to 'ban' a shoulder hit to the jaw is pussification - plan pandis!
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Bad game from Sens 'D'. Redden's presence was really missed. Damn it. Still pissed from the game..How can they blow a 3-2 lead in the third. They'll win in Tampa.
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Maybe.

I, for one, fully expect Brashear, amongst others, to come out rockin' tonight and will be disappointed if they don't. That hit by Campbell, though clean, should be seen as a challenge to the Flyers manhood. As such, they should respond in kind. The Flyers need something to be fired up about IMO....they need other lines besides Pete's to show up...they've appeared totally flat to me and if that doesn't shake them out of it, nothing will.
Exactly I agree with that whole post. Philly should come out rocking tonight!
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Well I can't believe anyone would call for 'Steve Moore retribution' at all either, and certainly not for something like that! Again, this is a fan of a team who took joy in hurting people back in the ol Broad Street days that he loves to yap about, and lookee now.....

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i wanted to say that it was because umberger was a canadian and not a whiny b**** european, but i forgot hes an american, good for him.
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Maybe.

I, for one, fully expect Brashear, amongst others, to come out rockin' tonight and will be disappointed if they don't. That hit by Campbell, though clean, should be seen as a challenge to the Flyers manhood. As such, they should respond in kind. The Flyers need something to be fired up about IMO....they need other lines besides Pete's to show up...they've appeared totally flat to me and if that doesn't shake them out of it, nothing will.
Like Bronx33 said in the post below yours...it's fine to come out fired up, and looking to take the body early...but if you lose discipline you might settle the alleged score with Campbell...while putting your team down a man consistently.

I think that the Flyers will come out taking the big hits when they are within the play. I don't think Hitchcock will allow it to get out of control. I imagine the Flyers are far more concerned with evening up the series than taking a run at Campbell...especially since the hit was clearly legit. If not...they'll lose the game. And rightfully so.
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Well, judging by what everyone here said about the hit, positioning.... acceleration, whatever, all that I have concluded is that Philly doesent know because he's never played hockey. It was a clean, brutal hit. Unfortunate that someone got hurt, and anytime you see a hit like that retribution will occur, but you NEVER try to hurt anyone out there.
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Like Bronx33 said in the post below yours...it's fine to come out fired up, and looking to take the body early...but if you lose discipline you might settle the alleged score with Campbell...while putting your team down a man consistently.

I think that the Flyers will come out taking the big hits when they are within the play. I don't think Hitchcork will allow it to get out of control. I imagine the Flyers are far more concerned with evening up the series than taking a run at Campbell...especially since the hit was clearly legit. If not...they'll lose the game. And rightfully so.

BUT id also like to add that if the game gets to be a 3 or 4 goal lead for either team, then loook out baby, remember what happened against ottawa the game after the havlat slash ? 3 face offs in a row everybody on the ice dropped the gloves, i can see that happening again, but like i said only if the game is well at hand or already gone.
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BUT id also like to add that if the game gets to be a 3 or 4 goal lead for either team, then loook out baby, remember what happened against ottawa the game after the havlat slash ? 3 face offs in a row everybody on the ice dropped the gloves, i can see that happening again, but like i said only if the game is well at hand or already gone.
Perhaps, but most likely not...unless some more shenanigans take place.

Hit 'em in the mouth (legally) and hurt 'em on the scoreboard. There's no more satisfying retribution than that.
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Well, judging by what everyone here said about the hit, positioning.... acceleration, whatever, all that I have concluded is that Philly doesent know because he's never played hockey. It was a clean, brutal hit. Unfortunate that someone got hurt, and anytime you see a hit like that retribution will occur, but you NEVER try to hurt anyone out there.
Umberger took part in Philly's morning skate, and proclaimed himself ready to go, but hasn't yet been cleared by the docs (espn.com)...so it looks like he'll be ok. Saying that I bet it will be awhile before he skates across the blueline with his head down. I think everyone hopes he can play.

Also...it looks like Brashear is going to be a scratch tonight.
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Well, in Philly's defense, I think everyone has said things that they don't mean in the heat of the moment. I still dont understand why he didnt retract the comment.
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