Broncos tried moving up in draft. - The Orange Mane

Requiem · 04-21-2006, 09:08 AM

Broncos | Team rebuffed trying to move up in the NFL Draft
Fri, 21 Apr 2006 06:40:01 -0700

Lee Rasizer, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports an unnamed team was the third team to turn down the Denver Broncos' offer of two first-round draft picks for their first-round pick in the NFL Draft. The team was draft somewhere in the top five of the draft, other than No. 3 or No. 5.

Titans | Team says no to NFL Draft trade
Fri, 21 Apr 2006 06:35:43 -0700

Lee Rasizer, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports the Tennessee Titans turned down the Denver Broncos' offer of two first-round draft picks for the Titans' selection at No. 3 in the NFL Draft.

Packers | Team says no to NFL Draft trade
Fri, 21 Apr 2006 06:26:15 -0700

WBAY, citing the Rocky Mountain News, reports the Green Bay Packers turned down the Denver Broncos' offer of two first-round draft picks for the Packers' selection at No. 5 in the NFL Draft.

Gfunk · 04-21-2006, 09:17 AM

hmm, interesting...

NaptownChief · 04-21-2006, 09:17 AM

Sounds like you guys were probably trying to get you a QB....

Garcia Bronco · 04-21-2006, 09:18 AM

Awesome........we tried. Deep draft my ass.

bronco militia · 04-21-2006, 09:19 AM

jeff legwold basically reported the same thing Wednesday on am950 the fan with irv and joe and then appeared in thursdays column...

bronco militia · 04-21-2006, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Awesome........we tried. Deep draft my ass.

appearently it's a deep draft for everyone except the Broncos

freak6 · 04-21-2006, 09:24 AM

What it shows is that the draft is top heavy, and then levels out significantly through picks 20-60.

At least we all know we tried, that is significant. We can't trade future 1st rounders because they are worthless since we are gonna be good every year.

We gotta hope for some gems in the 2nd and 3rd. It will still be alot of fun, unless VY falls to the raiders...

broncosteven · 04-21-2006, 09:25 AM

If they wanted a high pick that bad why not throw in next years 2 or 3rd rounder?

Phantom · 04-21-2006, 09:27 AM

I guess you gotta suck to get a top 5 draft pick.
That ain't happening any time soon.

Requiem · 04-21-2006, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Awesome........we tried. Deep draft my ass.

It is a deep draft. Just because we tried moving up doesn't mean it isn't a deep draft.

Requiem · 04-21-2006, 09:30 AM

I do find it funny we even contacted the Titans. #3 for #15 and #22 would have been nice, but no way in hell. As I've stated for a long time, #15 and #22 can get you in the picks from Top 4-6 selections, but no team was going to want to do that, especially teams who suck so bad and could use a franchise prospect.

BizzyBone7 · 04-21-2006, 09:32 AM

i would like to know who exactly they were targeting. my guess would be Mario or VD? i dont think we'd move up for a QB personally.

watermock · 04-21-2006, 09:34 AM

We were trying to catch VD.

ro_50 · 04-21-2006, 09:38 AM

Wow, I could only dream how Mario Williams or Vernon Davis would look in a Bronco Uni.

NaptownChief · 04-21-2006, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BizzyBone7

i would like to know who exactly they were targeting. my guess would be Mario or VD? i dont think we'd move up for a QB personally.

My guess would be a QB if they tried to get the #3 spot. Knowing Texans and Saints don't appear to be looking for a QB with Carr and Brees would make the #3 spot secure for the QB of choice. Anything other than a QB I think you would have risk of it being snatched ahead of you by the Saints. Anything is possible but my guess would be QB and likely Lienart.

Old Dude · 04-21-2006, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaptownChief

... Anything is possible but my guess would be QB and likely Lienart.

Or, the way they've been ping-ponging around, they could have tried to trade down again from that spot to pick up VD plus a second or third rounder.

As you say, anything is possible.

bronco militia · 04-21-2006, 09:47 AM

the only player in the top 3 the broncos were ever linked to was Vince Young

watermock · 04-21-2006, 09:49 AM

If we talked to all the top teams the targets were Mario or VD, not a QB. We tried and I'm pretty bummed about missing. It's not worth selling the farm.

watermock · 04-21-2006, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco militia

the only player in the top 3 the broncos were ever linked to was Vince Young

Really. Give me one link.

Drek · 04-21-2006, 09:50 AM

Davis or Williams, no question. It is a deep draft, but the top 8 or so prospects are phenominal athletes and the rest of the talent pool drops off after them. The draft then goes through a series of plateaus followed by small drops from picks 10-75 or so. We're in position to grab a lot of talented guys, but I think Shanahan had his heart set on Vernon Davis as a gamebreaking TE.

Hopefully the draft will get shaken up and it'll work out for us, but I doubt it. We basically need Green Bay to trade #5 to us, which won't happen unless Williams and AJ Hawk both go off the board. Basically we need some kind of shakeup that makes Hawk go in the top 4, before Leinart or Ferguson. I think the Packers are man crushing on Hawk, if he goes they'll be much more open to moving.

Funny, there was a rumor going around here (New England) that made the Dan Patrick show saying that the Pats want to move up too, allegedly they're real big on Hawk as well. You'd think another team wanting to get in the top 5 would hurt us, but if they want Hawk it'll only help, as they'll be stealing him from the Pack, making them more willing to deal, exposing Vernon Davis to us.

Not real likely that any of it happens though, unfortunately.

Requiem · 04-21-2006, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco militia

the only player in the top 3 the broncos were ever linked to was Vince Young

What link? The remark Shanahan made about getting him?

You never heard much about high prospects going to Denver because for the longest time, they held the #22 and #29 picks in the NFL Draft. Even with #15 and #22, it was highly unlikely they'd be able to move up, because as I've stated numerous times -- where the value looks good on paper, what teams are going to want to drop out of the range of elite players?

Wrong again, Militia.

watermock · 04-21-2006, 09:51 AM

What remark?

ludo21 · 04-21-2006, 09:53 AM

Im glad we tried. And im glad after realizing it wasnt going to happen, the team moved back and gained more picks because we can get the same value at 37.

This is a deep draft, just because we wanted to move up doesn mean its not.

Requiem · 04-21-2006, 09:53 AM

Oh, there was a tid-bit in the Post when Shanahan spoke for the first time that Shanahan said something. "In fact, we're going to get Vince Young." -- I'm assuming it was a joke, but I'm sure he likes the kid.

watermock · 04-21-2006, 09:53 AM

http://insidedenver.com/drmn/columni...83_130,00.html

Krieger, try again.

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04-21-2006, 09:08 AM	#1
Requiem ~~~ ~ ~ ~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Earth Division Posts: 19,607 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gilgamesh	Broncos tried moving up in draft. Broncos \| Team rebuffed trying to move up in the NFL Draft Fri, 21 Apr 2006 06:40:01 -0700 Lee Rasizer, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports an unnamed team was the third team to turn down the Denver Broncos' offer of two first-round draft picks for their first-round pick in the NFL Draft. The team was draft somewhere in the top five of the draft, other than No. 3 or No. 5. Titans \| Team says no to NFL Draft trade Fri, 21 Apr 2006 06:35:43 -0700 Lee Rasizer, of the Rocky Mountain News, reports the Tennessee Titans turned down the Denver Broncos' offer of two first-round draft picks for the Titans' selection at No. 3 in the NFL Draft. Packers \| Team says no to NFL Draft trade Fri, 21 Apr 2006 06:26:15 -0700 WBAY, citing the Rocky Mountain News, reports the Green Bay Packers turned down the Denver Broncos' offer of two first-round draft picks for the Packers' selection at No. 5 in the NFL Draft. Last edited by Requiem; 04-21-2006 at 09:12 AM..

04-21-2006, 09:17 AM	#2
Gfunk Hail to the Redskins Hail Victory Join Date: May 2005 Location: NOVA Posts: 5	hmm, interesting...

04-21-2006, 09:17 AM	#3
NaptownChief Donkeys Nightmare Football Pimp Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 7,490	Sounds like you guys were probably trying to get you a QB....

04-21-2006, 09:18 AM	#4
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,991 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	Awesome........we tried. Deep draft my ass.

04-21-2006, 09:19 AM	#5
bronco militia Ring of Famer THE GREATEST Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: colorado springs, co Posts: 22,591	jeff legwold basically reported the same thing Wednesday on am950 the fan with irv and joe and then appeared in thursdays column...

04-21-2006, 09:24 AM	#7
freak6 3,631 - WAKE UP!!!! Impeach President Cheney and Puppet Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,651 Adopt-a-Bronco: MJK	What it shows is that the draft is top heavy, and then levels out significantly through picks 20-60. At least we all know we tried, that is significant. We can't trade future 1st rounders because they are worthless since we are gonna be good every year. We gotta hope for some gems in the 2nd and 3rd. It will still be alot of fun, unless VY falls to the raiders...

04-21-2006, 09:25 AM	#8
broncosteven The Kranz Dictum MWA: Flight Director Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tranquility Base Posts: 29,060 Adopt-a-Bronco: MONEYBALL #38	If they wanted a high pick that bad why not throw in next years 2 or 3rd rounder?

04-21-2006, 09:27 AM	#9
Phantom Ring of Famer Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 1,179	I guess you gotta suck to get a top 5 draft pick. That ain't happening any time soon.

04-21-2006, 09:30 AM	#11
Requiem ~~~ ~ ~ ~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Earth Division Posts: 19,607 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gilgamesh	I do find it funny we even contacted the Titans. #3 for #15 and #22 would have been nice, but no way in hell. As I've stated for a long time, #15 and #22 can get you in the picks from Top 4-6 selections, but no team was going to want to do that, especially teams who suck so bad and could use a franchise prospect.

04-21-2006, 09:32 AM	#12
BizzyBone7 #27 Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 1,045 Adopt-a-Bronco: Cody Lambert	i would like to know who exactly they were targeting. my guess would be Mario or VD? i dont think we'd move up for a QB personally.

04-21-2006, 09:34 AM	#13
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	We were trying to catch VD.

04-21-2006, 09:38 AM	#14
ro_50 Ring of Famer Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Somewhere in Jersey Posts: 3,782	Wow, I could only dream how Mario Williams or Vernon Davis would look in a Bronco Uni.

04-21-2006, 09:47 AM	#17
bronco militia Ring of Famer THE GREATEST Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: colorado springs, co Posts: 22,591	the only player in the top 3 the broncos were ever linked to was Vince Young

04-21-2006, 09:49 AM	#18
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	If we talked to all the top teams the targets were Mario or VD, not a QB. We tried and I'm pretty bummed about missing. It's not worth selling the farm.

04-21-2006, 09:50 AM	#20
Drek Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 12,318	Davis or Williams, no question. It is a deep draft, but the top 8 or so prospects are phenominal athletes and the rest of the talent pool drops off after them. The draft then goes through a series of plateaus followed by small drops from picks 10-75 or so. We're in position to grab a lot of talented guys, but I think Shanahan had his heart set on Vernon Davis as a gamebreaking TE. Hopefully the draft will get shaken up and it'll work out for us, but I doubt it. We basically need Green Bay to trade #5 to us, which won't happen unless Williams and AJ Hawk both go off the board. Basically we need some kind of shakeup that makes Hawk go in the top 4, before Leinart or Ferguson. I think the Packers are man crushing on Hawk, if he goes they'll be much more open to moving. Funny, there was a rumor going around here (New England) that made the Dan Patrick show saying that the Pats want to move up too, allegedly they're real big on Hawk as well. You'd think another team wanting to get in the top 5 would hurt us, but if they want Hawk it'll only help, as they'll be stealing him from the Pack, making them more willing to deal, exposing Vernon Davis to us. Not real likely that any of it happens though, unfortunately.

04-21-2006, 09:51 AM	#22
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	What remark?

04-21-2006, 09:53 AM	#23
ludo21 RIP Darrent Williams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 17,915 Adopt-a-Bronco: Paul Ernster	Im glad we tried. And im glad after realizing it wasnt going to happen, the team moved back and gained more picks because we can get the same value at 37. This is a deep draft, just because we wanted to move up doesn mean its not.