Great new Vince Young article in SI - The Orange Mane

Hulamau · 04-15-2006, 03:42 PM

I still wish we could land this guy even if its not the best for us this year , I just have a gut feeling we'll really regret not doing what we did to get Elway in a few years in the long run.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...4/young/1.html

Bronco LB 59 · 04-15-2006, 04:00 PM

I totally agree. Can you imagine Vince Young on the PA bootleg!

I had mixed feelings about Young's great 2005 season. I felt so happy for him after his triumphs in Columbus and Pasadena, but I was sad that he played so well that he was no longer a mid-1st pick.

baja · 04-15-2006, 04:08 PM

hey I got an idea, Houston takes Young then they trade us Carr for our #22.

epicSocialism4tw · 04-15-2006, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bronco LB 52

I totally agree. Can you imagine Vince Young on the PA bootleg!

I had mixed feelings about Young's great 2005 season. I felt so happy for him after his triumphs in Columbus and Pasadena, but I was sad that he played so well that he was no longer a mid-1st pick.

Me too.

IMO, Young is the top player in the draft. It's amazing how people will try to diminish his capability despite having a better pro day than Leinart after beating the entire USC team on his own.

The dude could be the Micheal Jordan of football. Ive never seen another player (especially in college) dominate games like he did in the Rose Bowls that he played in. Big time player in big time games.

Bold prediction: Young will go before Leinart, and Leinart will be the guy that drops.

Hulamau · 04-15-2006, 06:04 PM

I agree here too. I just have my doubts about Jake being able to close the deal and we have to make a lot of adjustments in the structure of our team and game plans just to accomdate that possiblity.

Thing is, Shanny wants to win now to reestablish his legacy and I doubt he wants to pass up the immedate benefit of a playmaker like Vernon Davis for Young who could be all world and have a much bigger impact on our fortunes for many years.

Plus I HATE the idea of the Raiders getting him!

ludo21 · 04-15-2006, 06:06 PM

VY would be sick!!!

As would Bush! If we made a move for any of those guys (including VD or MArio) I would be ecstatic!!

WOW!

epicSocialism4tw · 04-15-2006, 06:10 PM

Here's a nice quote from the article:

"I'm telling you," he said, "this guy's John Elway. All those people saying he won't be good, what are they thinking? He's a rare passer -- the guy can be on the run, under pressure and flip the ball on a line. You watch him do these things and it goes on and on and on. Normally, if you watch a guy on film over and over again, he gets a little less attractive than what you'd thought. This guy gets better.
"His poise is just incredible, and he's so explosive. There's a reason Texas averaged 50 points a game. When they got the ball to the 30-yard line, he scored, period. He may not have the greatest test score, but he definitely has the leadership skills to compensate."
It should be pointed out that this scout is a huge Bush fan. "Bush is terrific," he said. "But if you've got the Number 1 pick, do you take Barry Sanders or John Elway?"

Jason in LA · 04-15-2006, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by baja fan

hey I got an idea, Houston takes Young then they trade us Carr for our #22.

That's a horrible idea.

Jason in LA · 04-15-2006, 06:40 PM

""I'm telling you," he said, "this guy's John Elway."

Someobody stole my quote. I said that a few weeks ago.

People want to compare him to Vick. He's nowhere near Vick. Totally different QB. Nobody would compare Culpepper, McNabb, McNair, or Plummer to Vick. Going back in history, nobody would compare Elway, Steve Young, or Tarkenton to Vick. But I'd compare Vince Young to all those QBs mentioned. Mobile QBs are different from running QBs. Young is a mobile QB, not a running QB.

Young is going to be good. Most of the questions about him are silly.

TexanBob · 04-15-2006, 07:32 PM

I think Young most resembles Steve McNair or Randall Cunningham. Neither one of them were polished passers when they came to the NFL and both were thought to be "running QBs". Cunningham's throwing motion looked worse than Young's.

If Denver traded their two number 1s to keep him away from the Raiders, I would not be upset. He's a great fit for the Broncos offense if Shanny will allow him to run some.

epicSocialism4tw · 04-15-2006, 07:42 PM

Vince Young is Vince Young. He's not Steve Young, Mike Vick, John Elway, or Randall Cunningham. Vince Young might be the greatest college football player of all time.

Young will make his own name in the pros. Just like he did in college.

Rohirrim · 04-15-2006, 09:11 PM

greatest college football player of all time

?

You made me burp up a pepperoni. I understand the sickness. A lot of us CU fans thought Rashaan Salaam would be the next Walter Payton. Live and learn,

Ratboy · 04-15-2006, 09:14 PM

I'd take him in the 7th round. Let him be a bust on someone elses team.

epicSocialism4tw · 04-15-2006, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rohirrim

greatest college football player of all time

?

You made me burp up a pepperoni. I understand the sickness. A lot of us CU fans thought Rashaan Salaam would be the next Walter Payton. Live and learn,

I'm an OU fan queenie.

You CU fans should know better. Who ever comes out of CU?

Rohirrim · 04-15-2006, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by angryllama

I'm an OU fan queenie.

You CU fans should know better. Who ever comes out of CU?

Matt Lepsis?

-Slap- · 04-15-2006, 09:50 PM

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Great new Vince Young article in SI

Who's going to read it to him?

epicSocialism4tw · 04-15-2006, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rohirrim

Matt Lepsis?

You forgot Kordell Stewart.

Lestat · 04-15-2006, 11:15 PM

i'm not so sure Young wouldn't help Denver this year, he may be a QB but he's also a 6-5 210 lb athlete with 4.5 speed & knows how to make people miss

i think Denver would throw him in on some sets & let him play RB & WR a bit

doonwise · 04-15-2006, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by -Slap-

Who's going to read it to him?

Play2win · 04-15-2006, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by -Slap-

Who's going to read it to him?

He'll just catch the Podcast...

Play2win · 04-15-2006, 11:38 PM

Seriously, would rather have Matt Leinart.

watermock · 04-15-2006, 11:45 PM

Young has more similarities to Vick than not. He won't get past the Titans or Oakland anyway, so it's moot. Plummer signed an extention and moved some salary back so he's here for at least two more years.

I'm not that sold on Young anyway, or Cory Jackson for that matter.

Dr. Broncenstein · 04-15-2006, 11:52 PM

The guy is dynamic, and a winner. I seriously think he's illiterate though. As long as he can read coverages....

epicSocialism4tw · 04-16-2006, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Broncenstein

The guy is dynamic, and a winner. I seriously think he's illiterate though. As long as he can read coverages....

Does it matter? Have you ever heard Darrent Williams or Shannon Sharpe speak? Those two are goobers. At the same time they are more intelligent athletically than anyone on this board and are getting paid for it pretty handsomely.

Young will be fine. People are looking for any reason to bring him down because he's the black phenom QB that knocked off the pretty boy LA school by himself.

Vince Young is the greatest college QB of all time.

yavoon · 04-16-2006, 12:11 AM

bad footwork, bad mechanics overall, played in a one read offense and mostly used his athleticism and improvisation.

he is nothing like elway(who threw a ton at stanford) nor is he like air mcnair.

04-15-2006, 03:42 PM	#1
Hulamau Polynesian Paralysis In the Pocket Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Hulaville and Sedona Posts: 8,031 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eric Decker	Great new Vince Young article in SI I still wish we could land this guy even if its not the best for us this year , I just have a gut feeling we'll really regret not doing what we did to get Elway in a few years in the long run. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...4/young/1.html

04-15-2006, 06:04 PM	#5
Hulamau Polynesian Paralysis In the Pocket Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Hulaville and Sedona Posts: 8,031 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eric Decker	I agree here too. I just have my doubts about Jake being able to close the deal and we have to make a lot of adjustments in the structure of our team and game plans just to accomdate that possiblity. Thing is, Shanny wants to win now to reestablish his legacy and I doubt he wants to pass up the immedate benefit of a playmaker like Vernon Davis for Young who could be all world and have a much bigger impact on our fortunes for many years. Plus I HATE the idea of the Raiders getting him! Last edited by Hulamau; 04-15-2006 at 06:08 PM..

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Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,814	greatest college football player of all time? You made me burp up a pepperoni. I understand the sickness. A lot of us CU fans thought Rashaan Salaam would be the next Walter Payton. Live and learn,

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04-15-2006, 04:00 PM	#2
Bronco LB 59 Ring of Famer Keep your head up dog Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Leucadia CA Posts: 6,068	I totally agree. Can you imagine Vince Young on the PA bootleg! I had mixed feelings about Young's great 2005 season. I felt so happy for him after his triumphs in Columbus and Pasadena, but I was sad that he played so well that he was no longer a mid-1st pick.

04-15-2006, 04:08 PM	#3
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,827 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	hey I got an idea, Houston takes Young then they trade us Carr for our #22.

04-15-2006, 06:06 PM	#6
ludo21 RIP Darrent Williams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 17,901 Adopt-a-Bronco: Paul Ernster	VY would be sick!!! As would Bush! If we made a move for any of those guys (including VD or MArio) I would be ecstatic!! WOW!

04-15-2006, 06:10 PM	#7
epicSocialism4tw Tebowing the long haul all the way to the title Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: TX, USA Posts: 37,072 Adopt-a-Bronco: Champ Bailey	Here's a nice quote from the article: "I'm telling you," he said, "this guy's John Elway. All those people saying he won't be good, what are they thinking? He's a rare passer -- the guy can be on the run, under pressure and flip the ball on a line. You watch him do these things and it goes on and on and on. Normally, if you watch a guy on film over and over again, he gets a little less attractive than what you'd thought. This guy gets better. "His poise is just incredible, and he's so explosive. There's a reason Texas averaged 50 points a game. When they got the ball to the 30-yard line, he scored, period. He may not have the greatest test score, but he definitely has the leadership skills to compensate." It should be pointed out that this scout is a huge Bush fan. "Bush is terrific," he said. "But if you've got the Number 1 pick, do you take Barry Sanders or John Elway?"

04-15-2006, 06:40 PM	#9
Jason in LA Gimmie that rep fool! Speaking of Butts & Boob Mojo Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: LA Posts: 12,252	""I'm telling you," he said, "this guy's John Elway." Someobody stole my quote. I said that a few weeks ago. People want to compare him to Vick. He's nowhere near Vick. Totally different QB. Nobody would compare Culpepper, McNabb, McNair, or Plummer to Vick. Going back in history, nobody would compare Elway, Steve Young, or Tarkenton to Vick. But I'd compare Vince Young to all those QBs mentioned. Mobile QBs are different from running QBs. Young is a mobile QB, not a running QB. Young is going to be good. Most of the questions about him are silly.

04-15-2006, 07:32 PM	#10
TexanBob Don't Argue With Me You Know I'm Right Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 5,023 Adopt-a-Bronco: Darris Nash	I think Young most resembles Steve McNair or Randall Cunningham. Neither one of them were polished passers when they came to the NFL and both were thought to be "running QBs". Cunningham's throwing motion looked worse than Young's. If Denver traded their two number 1s to keep him away from the Raiders, I would not be upset. He's a great fit for the Broncos offense if Shanny will allow him to run some.

04-15-2006, 07:42 PM	#11
epicSocialism4tw Tebowing the long haul all the way to the title Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: TX, USA Posts: 37,072 Adopt-a-Bronco: Champ Bailey	Vince Young is Vince Young. He's not Steve Young, Mike Vick, John Elway, or Randall Cunningham. Vince Young might be the greatest college football player of all time. Young will make his own name in the pros. Just like he did in college.

04-15-2006, 09:14 PM	#13
Ratboy It's all over... ಠ_ಠ Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Okinawa, Japan Posts: 13,276	I'd take him in the 7th round. Let him be a bust on someone elses team.

04-15-2006, 11:15 PM	#18
Lestat Oreo Lucian Rockefeller The New Age Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 5,158	i'm not so sure Young wouldn't help Denver this year, he may be a QB but he's also a 6-5 210 lb athlete with 4.5 speed & knows how to make people miss i think Denver would throw him in on some sets & let him play RB & WR a bit

04-15-2006, 11:38 PM	#21
Play2win Ring of Famer Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 9,610 Adopt-a-Bronco: The Duke	Seriously, would rather have Matt Leinart.

04-15-2006, 11:45 PM	#22
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	Young has more similarities to Vick than not. He won't get past the Titans or Oakland anyway, so it's moot. Plummer signed an extention and moved some salary back so he's here for at least two more years. I'm not that sold on Young anyway, or Cory Jackson for that matter.

04-15-2006, 11:52 PM	#23
Dr. Broncenstein Overdriven Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Sterile Fields Posts: 11,614 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Woodyard	The guy is dynamic, and a winner. I seriously think he's illiterate though. As long as he can read coverages....

04-16-2006, 12:11 AM	#25
yavoon Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 10,260	bad footwork, bad mechanics overall, played in a one read offense and mostly used his athleticism and improvisation. he is nothing like elway(who threw a ton at stanford) nor is he like air mcnair.