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Old 04-10-2006, 05:44 PM   #1
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I was somewhat criticle of Requiem's mock draft so I thought I would giove him a chance to bash me.

I think this would be a spectacular draft


15- pick. Jackson WR Florida
22-pick Deangelo Williams RB Memphis/Laurence Maroney RB Minnesota

61-pick Orien Harris DT Miami Move over Myers Warren has a new partner.
Athletic with good quickness...Strong player who holds his ground at the point and gets a push...Solid run stuffer in the middle...Has a wide base...Plays with good leverage...Has a good closing burst and is a solid tackler...Experienced and has been fairly productive...Good character and team leader with excellent intangibles...Still has a bit of potential...Has strong professional bloodlines.

119- pick Bruce Gradkowski QB Toledo I think if healthy he will be better than Omar.
Has a cannon for an arm...Smart player who can read a defense and make good decisions...Team leader and hard worker with top intangibles...Patient passer who does all the little things...Naturally athletic...Pretty accurate and displays good touch on his passes...Can really get the ball deep downfield...Has always performed very well when healthy...Has not yet begun to reach his full potential.

126- pick Fred Matua G USC. I love this guy. He is mean. You know the Raiders are looking at him although he is a little small for them.
Is very quick...An excellent technician who displays great footwork...Very strong and tough...A beast in the running game...Fiery, intense and emotional...Brings a defensive temperament to the o-line...Experienced and a three-year starter.

130- pick Tim Day TE Oregon I have been pimping him for 2 months now.
Has good size with long arms...Excellent weapon as a receiver...Is a smooth athlete with solid quickness...Has good hands and will make the spectacular catch...Runs good routes and knows how to get open...Adjusts well to poorly thrown balls and displays excellent focus...Can make something happen running after the catch...Showed that he can be a formidable threat in the red zone.

161- pick Greg Blue S Georgia I think he should be rated higher.
Good athlete...Has excellent size and a solid frame...Is very fast with good recovery speed and a burst...Lives for the big hit and will lay people out...Has excellent range in coverage...Hips are fluid...Has quick feet...Outstanding in run support...Versatile and could project to either free or strong safety...Is very strong and physical...An intimidator...Still improving and has some potential.

198- pick Todd Watkins WR BYU I'm not sure exactly where Watkins will fall but I think he is a great prospect. He is big and fast but somewhat raw.
Height: 6-2 3/8 | Weight: 202 | 40-Time: 4.40
Has good height and the frame to bulk up...A pretty good athlete with excellent timed speed...Outstanding deep threat who can stretch a field vertically...Has good body control and ball skills...Knows how to separate...Still has potential.

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Old 04-10-2006, 05:50 PM   #2
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Besides the Jackson pick (which i could deal with)..

EXCELLENT!!!! If the chips fall like that............

Day, Blue, MAtua, mouth would water.
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Old 04-10-2006, 05:52 PM   #3
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I really like Blue I thought he was going to be a 2nd round pick when the season started. I must admit he is more in line with a Lynch type safety and not a ballhawk, but that is what Shanny likes. He brings a load with him and he plays like a LB.
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I really like Blue I thought he was going to be a 2nd round pick when the season started. I must admit he is more in line with a Lynch type safety and not a ballhawk, but that is what Shanny likes. He brings a load with him and he plays like a LB.

i like him as well, good draft. Blue is fun to watch.
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Good stuff Atlas. I like the DW2 or Maroney pick at 22. I like Gradkowski too and Day is very underrated. He was hurt by the team's switch to the gun option offense but he is a pretty good player. Blue is dropping but I read awhile ago that Denver likes him alot and that would be good value at that point in the draft. I dont like Jackson. Harris has some upside, but he isnt much of a pass rusher anymore, he used to get a good push. Its a gamble on him, he could be a good player if he reverts to 2003 form.
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Old 04-10-2006, 06:32 PM   #6
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Good stuff Atlas. I like the DW2 or Maroney pick at 22. I like Gradkowski too and Day is very underrated. He was hurt by the team's switch to the gun option offense but he is a pretty good player. Blue is dropping but I read awhile ago that Denver likes him alot and that would be good value at that point in the draft. I dont like Jackson. Harris has some upside, but he isnt much of a pass rusher anymore, he used to get a good push. Its a gamble on him, he could be a good player if he reverts to 2003 form.
Thanks SOcal. I'm not crazy about Jackson I like Holmes better but I think Shanny is going to just go after his talent. He had like 80+ catches last year and the year before he averaged 22 yards per catch. So I think he can be great.
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I remember watching Harris and he really seemed bigger on the field than what he is. I thought he was a lot bigger than what they had him listed. I don't know what kind of a pass rush he has but I thought next to Warren he could get a push. I think getting a DT is important. TWO stud DT will make the DEs jobs much easier.
What DT do you think Denver could grab with #61

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Thanks SOcal. I'm not crazy about Jackson I like Holmes better but I think Shanny is going to just go after his talent. He had like 80+ catches last year and the year before he averaged 22 yards per catch. So I think he can be great.
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I remember watching Harris and he really seemed bigger on the field than what he is. I thought he was a lot bigger than what they had him listed. I don't know what kind of a pass rush he has but I thought next to Warren he could get a push. I think getting a DT is important. TWO stud DT will make the DEs jobs much easier.
What DT do you think Denver could grab with #61
Dvorchek, or is that too high for him??

One other guy whos name slips me now.....
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I know Gabe Watson could slip to Denver but I think I would rather have Harris, maybe I don't know what I'm talking about. That wouldn't be a first.
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o here we go.

Rod WRight - would love to get, and we can at 61
Tapp - also a possibilty for 61
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Thanks SOcal. I'm not crazy about Jackson I like Holmes better but I think Shanny is going to just go after his talent. He had like 80+ catches last year and the year before he averaged 22 yards per catch. So I think he can be great.
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I remember watching Harris and he really seemed bigger on the field than what he is. I thought he was a lot bigger than what they had him listed. I don't know what kind of a pass rush he has but I thought next to Warren he could get a push. I think getting a DT is important. TWO stud DT will make the DEs jobs much easier.
What DT do you think Denver could grab with #61
Ideally, Wroten would drop to that point because of the weed issues but thats probably a wet dream since he is likely the 2nd best one gap DT in the draft. Jesse Mahelona would be a good pick at 61. Wasnt as good this past year as in 2004 but he gets a very good push inside, plays with excellent pad level and seems like a great person in addition to already being a Broncos fan. Johnathon Lewis of Virginia Tech should warrant consideration from us, he is in the line of Mike Patterson type players, an undersized but active DT. John McCargo of NC State is another serious consideration at that spot. Ofcourse Rod Wright as well, who has huge upside but hasnt played as well as he should the last two years.
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Jackson - solid.

Williams/Maroney - fine, but there's no need for one in the first.

Harris - In the second? Meh, I still don't think he's going to go that high. People are pimping him way too much.

Gradowski isn't better than Jacobs. Not even close. I think he's a fifth-rounder.

Matua is okay, but I see you've taken a liking to Scott Wright's profiles.

I love Tim Day.

Greg Blue won't drop that far, regadless of how bad he timed, he's still a warrior on the field and teams will take more to his game tape than anything else. He can play.

Watkins is a wasted pick with Jackson in the first. I've never really been fond of the kid, and I feel we can get a better player at that point in the draft than him.

I'd give this a B-; I'm just not feeling this one.
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Ideally, Wroten would drop to that point because of the weed issues but thats probably a wet dream since he is likely the 2nd best one gap DT in the draft. Jesse Mahelona would be a good pick at 61. Wasnt as good this past year as in 2004 but he gets a very good push inside, plays with excellent pad level and seems like a great person in addition to already being a Broncos fan. Johnathon Lewis of Virginia Tech should warrant consideration from us, he is in the line of Mike Patterson type players, an undersized but active DT. John McCargo of NC State is another serious consideration at that spot. Ofcourse Rod Wright as well, who has huge upside but hasnt played as well as he should the last two years.
Mahelona at 61 over the others mentioned is a mistake. I feel at best, he's late-first day talent. Needs more experience than what he's shown. Lewis isn't first day. Of those Mentioned, Wroten would be ideal there. Then I'd go Wright. Followed by McCargo. If I had to, I'd do Harris, then Mahelona and lastly Lewis.
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Seems we have people at odds, as usual.

But guess what guys, Shanny will do something opposite, so i try and not even predict who we get.
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o here we go.

Rod WRight - would love to get, and we can at 61
Tapp - also a possibilty for 61
I don't think Denver will draft a DE. They have like 46 DEs on the roster and like 3 DTs!!
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I don't think Denver will draft a DE. They have like 46 DEs on the roster and like 3 DTs!!
Well, Mathias Kiwanuka will probably be a very intriguing pick if we grabbed him up wouldnt you say? I know he's not a great elite talent but I think he'd be well worth the risk of a second rounder on
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Well, Mathias Kiwanuka will probably be a very intriguing pick if we grabbed him up wouldnt you say? I know he's not a great elite talent but I think he'd be well worth the risk of a second rounder on

Kiwinuaka was consider a top 5 talent last year, but this year he struggle with injuries and poor technique. If he gets healthy he could be the steal of the draft.
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Well, Mathias Kiwanuka will probably be a very intriguing pick if we grabbed him up wouldnt you say? I know he's not a great elite talent but I think he'd be well worth the risk of a second rounder on

he would be a STEAL in the 2nd, unless we move up in the 2nd, we wont get him.
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I don't think Denver will draft a DE. They have like 46 DEs on the roster and like 3 DTs!!

46, man you are sooo wrong, get your facts straight!



I see ur point tho, but unless Wright and Tapp are switched, as of now they are DT.
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Kiwinuaka was consider a top 5 talent last year, but this year he struggle with injuries and poor technique. If he gets healthy he could be the steal of the draft.
His speed off the line has always been a problem, but you are right, he would be a very good project and could easily be an impact player on opening day. Lets just hope whoever drafts him doesnt butcher his last name when he is drafted
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I think those 46 DE are actual 46 mini-Ditkas playing DE so that one hell of a team. 46 mini-ditkas equal one big Ditka
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I see ur point tho, but unless Wright and Tapp are switched, as of now they are DT.
Darryl Tapp DE Virginia Tech 6-1 5/8 262 4.84 on the site I looked at he was a DE.

262 lbs is a little light for a DT wouldn't you say
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Darryl Tapp DE Virginia Tech 6-1 5/8 262 4.84 on the site I looked at he was a DE.

262 lbs is a little light for a DT wouldn't you say

I could of swore he played DT during his career.

I know people talked about switching Wright as well, hmmm, maybe im off, or well, still want them.
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I could of swore he played DT during his career.

I know people talked about switching Wright as well, hmmm, maybe im off, or well, still want them.
Rodrique Wright DT Texas 6-5 1/8 300 5.06

Wright is a little small for DT but at least he weighs 300lbs
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Ideally, Wroten would drop to that point because of the weed issues but thats probably a wet dream since he is likely the 2nd best one gap DT in the draft. Jesse Mahelona would be a good pick at 61. Wasnt as good this past year as in 2004 but he gets a very good push inside, plays with excellent pad level and seems like a great person in addition to already being a Broncos fan. Johnathon Lewis of Virginia Tech should warrant consideration from us, he is in the line of Mike Patterson type players, an undersized but active DT. John McCargo of NC State is another serious consideration at that spot. Ofcourse Rod Wright as well, who has huge upside but hasnt played as well as he should the last two years.
During the year Wroten was the best pass rush DT in the country. Buckleys post season, combine and Wroten's legal troubles are teh only reasons he is being ignored.
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During the year Wroten was the best pass rush DT in the country. Buckleys post season, combine and Wroten's legal troubles are teh only reasons he is being ignored.
Id really like him at 61. Im pretty sure we wont address DT in Round 1. Thats gotta be some combo of DE, RB, TE, WR. Prolly wont go DT at Round 2 either, because we gotta hit on one of the remaining 2 big needs.

More proof that we really need to trade down from 22 to pick up more Day 1 selections.
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