NFL Draft-Broncos on the clock

[GSRelyea]

TJ, Mort & Mel discuss the Broncos draft. 2:30 long, pretty interesting.

http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/...5&category=Top Videos

[El Guapo]

cliff notes? broadband is blocked at my work.

[Odysseus]

Blocked

[Garcia Bronco]

Yep...no good here too.

[GSRelyea]

Originally Posted by Maverick_7

cliff notes? broadband is blocked at my work.

TJ was talking RB's, Mel said whoever is available at 15 should be available at 22. Mel thinks they will go a differant direction with 15, he is still saying C. Jackson. Mort talked about trading up for VD saying that would be a big get since there is a glaring need at the position. TJ then brought up the huge need for a pass rusher on the DL- talked about trading up for super Mario, Mel then said there is no way they could get that high by just trading 15 & 22 he compared Mario to a Julius Peppers type player.

[BroncoInferno]

Originally Posted by GSRelyea

TJ was talking RB's, Mel said whoever is available at 15 should be available at 22. Mel thinks they will go a differant direction with 15, he is still saying C. Jackson. Mort talked about trading up for VD saying that would be a big get since there is a glaring need at the position. TJ then brought up the huge need for a pass rusher on the DL- talked about trading up for super Mario, Mel then said there is no way they could get that high by just trading 15 & 22 he compared Mario to a Julius Peppers type player.

Thanks for the info. Did it all sound like speculation, or did anyone sound like they had heard things? I'm thinking Mort in particular since it is his job to try and get the scoop on these types of things.

[Clockwork Orange]

Originally Posted by BroncoInferno

Thanks for the info. Did it all sound like speculation, or did anyone sound like they had heard things? I'm thinking Mort in particular since it is his job to try and get the scoop on these types of things.

Speculation. It was Kiper who suggested the possibility of trading up for Vernon Davis.

[watermock]

Well....that was a carbon copy of what we have been saying.

[BroncoInferno]

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

Speculation. It was Kiper who suggested the possibility of trading up for Vernon Davis.

Thanks, Clockwork.

I will do cartwheels in my living room if we end up with Vernon. My biggest fear is that we are going to move up for a QB. If we do make a trade up, my head will be under a pillow until the pick is made.

[Requiem]

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

Speculation. It was Kiper who suggested the possibility of trading up for Vernon Davis.

No, it was Mort who said that in the video.

[Clockwork Orange]

Originally Posted by watermock

Well....that was a carbon copy of what we have been saying.

Pretty much. In fairness though, I think we've discussed just about every possible draft day scenario for the Broncos, so there wasn't much new ground they could cover.

[Clockwork Orange]

Originally Posted by Requiem

No, it was Mort who said that in the video.

F me, you're right. It's too damn early.

My fault, Kiper was the one talking about the (highly unlikely) possibility of trading up for Mario Williams.

[baja]

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

Speculation. It was Kiper who suggested the possibility of trading up for Vernon Davis.

No that was Morton Anderson

[Clockwork Orange]

Originally Posted by baja fan

No that was Morton Anderson

No, I think that was Craig Morton.

[El Guapo]

thanks for the cliffs.

[Mile High Shack]

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

No, I think that was Craig Morton.

no
Morton Downey Jr.

[Mediator12]

The funny thing is that we have played out all possible safe scenarios where everyone is happy in effect. Now we need to look outside the box to possible player moves and trades that would not be so easy to predict.

One thing is for sure, they have a ton of Options and even though we have addressed a bunch of logical moves we have not even started to scratch the surface of the ideas being planned for at Dove Valley. These guys are looking at stuff the board would freak out over in just mentioning. They do it every year it seems like

[BroncoInferno]

Originally Posted by Mediator12

The funny thing is that we have played out all possible safe scenarios where everyone is happy in effect. Now we need to look outside the box to possible player moves and trades that would not be so easy to predict.

One thing is for sure, they have a ton of Options and even though we have addressed a bunch of logical moves we have not even started to scratch the surface of the ideas being planned for at Dove Valley. These guys are looking at stuff the board would freak out over in just mentioning. They do it every year it seems like

Yeah, Shanny always seems to roll the dice on potential, and with two 1st rounders that becomes even more likely. An immensely talented underachiever like Gabe Watson would anger but not surprise me at pick #22.

[Dagmar]

Lelie & pick 15 = trade up for Davis.
22 = Maroney or D will.

Best draft day ever...

[Mediator12]

Originally Posted by BroncoInferno

Yeah, Shanny always seems to roll the dice on potential, and with two 1st rounders that becomes even more likely. An immensely talented underachiever like Gabe Watson would anger but not surprise me at pick #22.

I am personally sick with "Potential" guys in the draft. I really want Shanahan to switch his draft philosophy a little bit towards players with higher character and Floors versus higher ceilings. I want guys like Foxworth and Williams who were solid in college and had speed. They were rated lower on their other measurables but were performers.

I have been reading The Draft by Pete Williams and he lays out how the Process of drafting works over a year long time span. The Book is poorly edited and hard to read in places, but the wealth of process Information makes it a must read of any fan who REALLY wants to know what happens with the draft process. Two points it makes that usually missed here:

1. Successful teams draft players that fit their schemes and keep coaching and front office staff around for continuity.

2. Most players require a commitment to develop in order to become an NFL player. Even the best Rookies require an awful lot of coaching to adjust to the next level of play. Case in point were the CB's last year who were drafted to play man to man coverage but were protected more with Off coverage. Hopefully, they get the confidence of the coaching staff in the offseason and switch more to their primary skills and having a healthy Champ Bailey should help too.

[ro_50]

Wow.

When I read the thread title, I thought it was already Draft Day and somehow, I have slept through the days leading up to the Draft.

Now, back to reality, which is work.

[Rascal]

Originally Posted by Mediator12

The funny thing is that we have played out all possible safe scenarios where everyone is happy in effect. Now we need to look outside the box to possible player moves and trades that would not be so easy to predict.

One thing is for sure, they have a ton of Options and even though we have addressed a bunch of logical moves we have not even started to scratch the surface of the ideas being planned for at Dove Valley. These guys are looking at stuff the board would freak out over in just mentioning. They do it every year it seems like

I wouldn't be suprised to see us move Bell or Lelie in the draft or possibly DJ.

[Mediator12]

Originally Posted by Rascal

I wouldn't be suprised to see us move Bell or Lelie in the draft or possibly DJ.

I would not be surprised of anything at this point. I have heard some really weird things have been discussed. One thing is for sure, Nothing is sacred at this point and everything is on the table for discussion. Calculated risk is going to be involved and they are exploring just about everything

[Rascal]

You want to know a situation I would love.

This...the Eagles need a WR and need a proven one. Denver apparently is not going to retain Lelie next year so we might as well trade him now and get some value out of him.

Trade Lelie and our second rounder for the Eagles first rounder. That will leave us with the 14, 15, and 22 overall. We can get a WR, DE, TE all in the first round and draft a RB later in the draft with Griggs, Mike Bell, or etc.

Jackson, Hali/Bunkley (should he fall), Lewis/Pope, Griggs/Bell. I'd piss my pants with that draft.

[Taco John]

Originally Posted by Mediator12

The funny thing is that we have played out all possible safe scenarios where everyone is happy in effect. Now we need to look outside the box to possible player moves and trades that would not be so easy to predict.

One thing is for sure, they have a ton of Options and even though we have addressed a bunch of logical moves we have not even started to scratch the surface of the ideas being planned for at Dove Valley. These guys are looking at stuff the board would freak out over in just mentioning. They do it every year it seems like

Yep. This is why I learned not to get too attached to my draft scenarios, and just go with the flow. Predicting what Shanahan will do in a draft is an inexact science.