Choosing White would be moronic

[Bob]

I think that L. White has talent, dont get me wrong, but with our needs at DE, and WR/TE why all of this talk of taking a running back in the first?

We can pick yet another great back in the 2nd or third.

I say the best defensive linemen that can apply pressure on the QB at 15 and then Jackson or Pope with the 2nd First Rounder.

[Arkansas Bronco]

Originally Posted by Bob

I think that L. White has talent, dont get me wrong, but with our needs at DE, and WR/TE why all of this talk of taking a running back in the first?

We can pick yet another great back in the 2nd or third.

I say the best defensive linemen that can apply pressure on the QB at 15 and then Jackson or Pope with the 2nd First Rounder.

Namely because having a very talented RB in our system would step up this team in a major way. I am not realy refearing to White because I like D. williams abit more. In our system average RB look good but if you put a game breaker in there then oh hell watch us now.

[fdf]

Originally Posted by Arkansas_Bronco

Namely because having a very talented RB in our system would step up this team in a major way. I am not realy refearing to White because I like D. williams abit more. In our system average RB look good but if you put a game breaker in there then oh hell watch us now.

I can't say that I agree. In almost every game last year, the D schemed to stop our run. Why? Because we have a solid run game. We will have a solid run game next year even if we stand pat on RB's.

Our problem on offense was that our weak WR corps rarely made the D pay for putting 8 in the box against the run.

What would happen with a good WR opposite Rod or a good TE would be an opening up of both the passing and running games.We would run a lot better if the D had to respect our passing game.

My conclusion? The breakthru player on O is a WR or TE.

Just one more comment. We all remember the days when TD shredded everyone and think that a top running back would return us to those days. I don't think so. TD ran behind a tremendous passing offense. You put 8 in the box against us in 1998 and you paid big time.

[bpc]

We have nobody who steps up on offense to help us win. White can be that guy.

EVEN with our holes at pass rushing on the DL we still had one of the best defenses last year. We haven't lost anything from that defense and even if we have to stick by the blitz, we will get heat on the opposing offense.

The key is getting somebody we can count on toting the rock in the backfield and possibly another red zone threat at the TE position.

[Clockwork Orange]

I swear, people complain to no end about the Broncos red zone woes, yet don't want to make a move for someone who could help in that area because it's supposedly not a need.

LenDale White and Leonard Pope would go a long way towards curing what ails us in the red zone.

[Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

I swear, people complain to no end about the Broncos red zone woes, yet don't want to make a move for someone who could help in that area because it's supposedly not a need.

LenDale White and Leonard Pope would go a long way towards curing what ails us in the red zone.

Not to mention our third down conversion percentage.

[DBroncos4life]

Again Denver had a very good Red Zone % last year. While no WR or TE stepped up our FB did have 5 td catches from Plummer. I still would love to add White or Pope, hell both of them, but there are other players I would like as well. I don't have just one guy I have to have this year. I never end up with that guy anyways so its safer for me this way.

[NFLBRONCO]

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

I swear, people complain to no end about the Broncos red zone woes, yet don't want to make a move for someone who could help in that area because it's supposedly not a need.

LenDale White and Leonard Pope would go a long way towards curing what ails us in the red zone.

AMEN

[want2bAbronco2]

LW would be great, we need a finishing RB, but i would love a DE, and Chad Jackson in the 1st, RB from LSU (did you see his size/speed, 5'11" 215lbs and runs a 4.4!) then pick up byrd (TE USC) Lewis (UCLA) in 2nd (trade 2 3rds for it) or CU TE in the 3rd.

[Kaylore]

Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

Again Denver had a very good Red Zone % last year.

Understatement. Try top three in the league. We were awesome in the Redzone last year. We need help on third down - on both sides of the ball.

[BroncoSoja]

Originally Posted by fdf

Our problem on offense was that our weak WR corps rarely made the D pay for putting 8 in the box against the run.

Cant tell you how many games I watched last year and saw open recievers under, over thrown...Whos fault is that? Im not saying that the WR core we have are the strength of our team, but I am saying that our QB is responsible to get the ball in there hands at the right time. The QB we have now cant and never has been able to do that with any reliability...I am also saying that our Weak QB didnt make the D pay either... The New England game was a great showcase for that. Had our D not played so well and handed the offense TD's we would have been destroyed in that game.

[-Slap-]

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

I swear, people complain to no end about the Broncos red zone woes, yet don't want to make a move for someone who could help in that area because it's supposedly not a need.

LenDale White and Leonard Pope would go a long way towards curing what ails us in the red zone.

Come on, Clockwork. We already have a good running game, why on Earth would we want a dominating running game? I mean, what's the fun in that? I hated when TD used to make some of our opponents literally quit on the field in the fourth quarter. I'm paying to see a whole football game, dammit.

[meangene]

I think we should package both picks to move up for either Mario Williams or Vernon Davis. Then with the second we take a DE or TE depending on whom we selected in the first. We can choose from whomever is left among Lewis, Klop, Byrd and Fasano at TE. We can choose among Tapp, Wimbley, Lawson, Kiwi and McClover at DE. I might even try to trade up to get Tapp in Rd. 2. I'd address WR in Round 3 if we haven't done so prior to the draft (Moulds, Walker).

[Clockwork Orange]

Originally Posted by meangene

I think we should package both picks to move up for either Mario Williams or Vernon Davis. Then with the second we take a DE or TE depending on whom we selected in the first. We can choose from whomever is left among Lewis, Klop, Byrd and Fasano at TE. We can choose among Tapp, Wimbley, Lawson, Kiwi and McClover at DE. I might even try to trade up to get Tapp in Rd. 2. I'd address WR in Round 3 if we haven't done so prior to the draft (Moulds, Walker).

A couple of things.

You can cross Wimbley, Lawson and Kiwanuka off the list of who the Broncos will have to choose from in round 2. They're choosing at the bottom of the round and those three will be gone long before their pick comes up. If it's a DE they want, it's going to have to happen in round 1.

We don't have a 3rd round pick, we sent it to Atlanta in the deal for the 15th pick.

[meangene]

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

A couple of things.

You can cross Wimbley, Lawson and Kiwanuka off the list of who the Broncos will have to choose from in round 2. They're choosing at the bottom of the round and those three will be gone long before their pick comes up. If it's a DE they want, it's going to have to happen in round 1.

We don't have a 3rd round pick, we sent it to Atlanta in the deal for the 15th pick.

I'm guessing we will get a 3rd round comp pick. You are probably right on the DE list but you never know who will fall to later in the round making a trade up feasable. I'm not sure I don't like Tapp as well as any of them anyway. How do you feel about the moving up for either Williams or Davis approach? I would prefer Williams because the TE postion is deeper than DE position.

[Clockwork Orange]

Originally Posted by -Slap-

Come on, Clockwork. We already have a good running game, why on Earth would we want a dominating running game? I mean, what's the fun in that? I hated when TD used to make some of our opponents literally quit on the field in the fourth quarter. I'm paying to see a whole football game, dammit.

I know, we don't need a RB who can take over games, it's much better to throw a group of them out there and hope that one of them is feeling it that week.

It's really strange, for all the people around here who bemoaned the loss of Clinton Portis, no one seems to want to bring someone in who could put up similar numbers. Well, people do want to bring that guy in, they just want us to stumble across him in the later rounds.

I'm telling you, I can see LenDale White in this system giving us 1500 yards and 15 TD's as a rookie. Say what you will, that's worth a 1st round pick in my book.

[Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

I know, we don't need a RB who can take over games, it's much better to throw a group of them out there and hope that one of them is feeling it that week.

It's really strange, for all the people around here who bemoaned the loss of Clinton Portis, no one seems to want to bring someone in who could put up similar numbers. Well, people do want to bring that guy in, they just want us to stumble across him in the later rounds.

I'm telling you, I can see LenDale White in this system giving us 1500 yards and 15 TD's as a rookie. Say what you will, that's worth a 1st round pick in my book.

Not to mention the effect it has on getting our WRs open and the bootleg.

[Clockwork Orange]

Originally Posted by meangene

I'm guessing we will get a 3rd round comp pick. You are probably right on the DE list but you never know who will fall to later in the round making a trade up feasable. I'm not sure I don't like Tapp as well as any of them anyway. How do you feel about the moving up for either Williams or Davis approach? I would prefer Williams because the TE postion is deeper than DE position.

I forgot about the potential comp pick. Good call.

I'd prefer to stay put at 15 and 22 myself, but I wouldn't complain if they traded up. Williams and Davis (along with Haloti Ngata) are players I'd be just fine with them moving up for.

[Paladin]

I do believe that the addition of a blocking, pass-catching, dominent TE would help the running game AND passing game. Davis would be best, Pope would be useful, Lewis a bit less so.

I also think there needs to be some help for the Dline. I do not remember a time over the past four years that the hue and cry has not been over the need for a decent DE. There are only a few times teams have the opportunity to get a "francise" Dlineman, and I don't think the Broncos have ever done that. Maybe this is the year: Mario?

It is gonna be interesting as to what actually comes down. I think they will stay put and take a DE at 15 and a TE at 29. I do not think they will do a RB in the first. I do believe they will take a Mike Bell or someone in that range later, but the emphasis will likely be on the DL and the TE.

Is that real? Dunno. We'll see.

[Clockwork Orange]

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

Not to mention the effect it has on getting our WRs open and the bootleg.

No joke. The bootleg will be deadlier than ever if opposing defenses have to beware of a bonafide stud RB.

[Clockwork Orange]

Originally Posted by Paladin

It is gonna be interesting as to what actually comes down. I think they will stay put and take a DE at 15 and a TE at 29. I do not think they will do a RB in the first. I do believe they will take a Mike Bell or someone in that range later, but the emphasis will likely be on the DL and the TE.

Just a correction, the Broncos have the 22nd pick, not the 29th.

[Paladin]

Thank you. It's my birthday and I started early.....

[Clockwork Orange]

Originally Posted by Paladin

Thank you. It's my birthday and I started early.....

Well happy birthday to you.

[Requiem]

Denver could imrove their red zone offense, especially near the goal line and without Mike there and Tatum having a hard time running between the tackles, White would be an excellent guy to do that. LenDale White isn't a moronic pick by any means. This kid has a nose for the endzone.

[meangene]

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

I forgot about the potential comp pick. Good call.

I'd prefer to stay put at 15 and 22 myself, but I wouldn't complain if they traded up. Williams and Davis (along with Haloti Ngata) are players I'd be just fine with them moving up for.

And I wouldn't be unhappy if we went with White and Pope in Round 1 as long as we addressed DE in Round 2. I'm not sure I wouldn't prefer Bunkley with #15 though.