Tamba Hail has a bad pro day - The Orange Mane

DBroncos4life · 03-17-2006, 10:31 PM

Tamba Hali - DL - Player

Tamba Hali ran a 4.88 at his Pro Day.
Yikes. This won't help the 'tweener because he looks too slow to play outside linebacker. He also only out 225 pounds 17 times. Hali could fall out of the first round in the draft. Mar. 17 - 7:52 pm et

Im not sure what others think about that, I know people where high on him during the senior bowl though.

Clockwork Orange · 03-17-2006, 10:51 PM

Awesome. I hope that teams put far too much stock in these workouts and let him fall. Grab him at 22 and Kiwanuka at 29 and we'll be set at DE for years to come.

Lestat · 03-18-2006, 12:44 AM

wow, i'm drooling over the possibility of Kiwi & Hali falling out of the 1st or atleast well within Denver's picks

one way or another on draft day a dynamic DE comes to the Broncos

BritBronco Maniac · 03-18-2006, 04:15 AM

There was a chance Hali was going to be there at 22, now there is a chance he will be there at 29.

My first choice at 22 is still Bunkley, followed by DW2

broncohaven · 03-18-2006, 04:52 AM

I would LOVE for Hali to be there when we pick. I don't care what the numbers say, he's a full speed football player that would be perfect for Denver.

My ideal first round would be Bunkley/Hali, but I'd take Hali/Kiwi and still be smiling.

meangene · 03-18-2006, 05:01 AM

1a. Pope
1b. Hali

I'd be doing cartwheels!

ludo21 · 03-18-2006, 07:29 AM

Hali and Kiwi!! That would be sweet!!

Hercules Rockefeller · 03-18-2006, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BritBronco Maniac

My first choice at 22 is still Bunkley

No chance. Some thread had a link to Yahoo talking about the Pro Day and supposedly the Browns don't think he'll last to even their pick at 12.

NaptownChief · 03-18-2006, 08:20 AM

Only speed I care about in a DE is their time in the first 15 yards....If that is lightening quick then that is pretty much all that matters.

elsid13 · 03-18-2006, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Hercules Rockefeller

No chance. Some thread had a link to Yahoo talking about the Pro Day and supposedly the Browns don't think he'll last to even their pick at 12.

Yeah I posted the link on the "better mock" thread. The draft guy from NFL Total Access was saying that he looked great at FSU pro day and might be the first DT off the board

Requiem · 03-18-2006, 09:13 AM

I don't see why people still consider Hali a tweener guy, or ever did. He's 6'3 - 275 pounds which is solid for a defensive end. Nice, maybe we can get him!

-Slap- · 03-18-2006, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

Tamba Hali - DL - Player

Tamba Hali ran a 4.88 at his Pro Day.
Yikes. This won't help the 'tweener because he looks too slow to play outside linebacker. He also only out 225 pounds 17 times. Hali could fall out of the first round in the draft. Mar. 17 - 7:52 pm et

Im not sure what others think about that, I know people where high on him during the senior bowl though.

Great news. Maybe he kind of choked up, who knows what happened? Anyone who's seen the kid play knows he's very quick off the football and he redirects well. All the natural pass rush skills are present. I would say jump on him @ 22 unless someone even better slips.

-Slap- · 03-18-2006, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ludo21

Hali and Kiwi!! That would be sweet!!

I think this would be a great idea. If one of them pans out, its a solid draft already. If both of them pan out, its one of the best drafts in team history. I think they would probably develop a natural competitive rivalry and push each other to be better.

Drek · 03-18-2006, 09:50 AM

Hali is not a workout warrior, I don't know why this surprises people. He's an average athlete for the NFL level, but he knows how to play DE and outworks every other DE in this draft. He's a lot like VandenBosch.

If he slides to 29 I'd love to see us take him. I'd take him at 22, but I wouldn't be surprised if this slides him down further.

bendog · 03-20-2006, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by -Slap-

I think this would be a great idea. If one of them pans out, its a solid draft already. If both of them pan out, its one of the best drafts in team history. I think they would probably develop a natural competitive rivalry and push each other to be better.

That's my hope two. Shoot both firsts on the number one need position. One of them should pan out. Of course I thought the same when Kiki drafted Nene and the european twig.

BroncoInferno · 03-20-2006, 08:41 AM

With Lang signing and Ekuban, Brown, and Engleberger all under contract, it seems doubtfull they will take two DEs. I'm hoping for one DE and one DT. SoCal stated on another thread that he heard/read that we were not hot on any of the DL prospect, and that worries me. You'vbe got to take a shot on these guys at some point. We've only drafted 5 DL on the drafts first day in the entire Shanny era. Even if none of the guys knock his socks off, you've got to invest some youth into the position at some point if you want to be successful long term.

Rascal · 03-20-2006, 08:46 AM

The only spots that I am content with our starting players along the D-line are Warren and Brown. The rest IMO are quality backups including Lang, Myers, and Ekuban.

I'm afraid that with the Lang singing Shanny is going to call it good along the DE area, and since they don't like any of the DT's in the draft I'm afraid that they won't address that any more either. Hell I wouldn't be suprised to see us completely ignore these two vital areas in the draft. The implosion here on the mane would be monumental. Save for one possible scenario....DW2/White and Pope/Lewis. Which I think is a very likely scenario.

Billy Clyde Puckett · 03-20-2006, 09:01 AM

I won't go crazy if they go all Offense in round one if they do something like Wroten/ Anderson in rounds 2/3.

BroncoInferno · 03-20-2006, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Rascal

The only spots that I am content with our starting players along the D-line are Warren and Brown. The rest IMO are quality backups including Lang, Myers, and Ekuban.

I'm afraid that with the Lang singing Shanny is going to call it good along the DE area, and since they don't like any of the DT's in the draft I'm afraid that they won't address that any more either. Hell I wouldn't be suprised to see us completely ignore these two vital areas in the draft. The implosion here on the mane would be monumental. Save for one possible scenario....DW2/White and Pope/Lewis. Which I think is a very likely scenario.

Unfortunately, I'm getting the same feeling. I'm going to play 'wait and see'. I like the Lang move if he is being viewed as Coleman's replacement, but not at all if he is Pryce's replacement. It all depnds on the context.

Hercules Rockefeller · 03-20-2006, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by bendog

That's my hope two. Shoot both firsts on the number one need position. One of them should pan out. Of course I thought the same when Kiki drafted Nene and the european twig.

The NFL isn't the NHL or NBA, you can't afford to double up on one position in the same round.

DBroncos4life · 03-20-2006, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Hercules Rockefeller

The NFL isn't the NHL or NBA, you can't afford to double up on one position in the same round.

It worked out for the Jets, but I agree. We still can go DT and DE though

bendog · 03-20-2006, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Hercules Rockefeller

The NFL isn't the NHL or NBA, you can't afford to double up on one position in the same round.

umm, I dunno. I won't be surprised if they use one of the picks on a TE, and I suspect they will, because it's deep at that position. Shanny doesn't use firsts to take qbs or rbs, two skill positions. He's blown two no 1s on corners, but obviously Den isn't drafting corners this year. He won't draft a linebacker. My guess is TE and DE in either order. But, rookies are fairly cheap, capwise. So, with all the cap in Warren's contract, it would make a certain sense to take two DEs, assuming there is one who can evolve to a LDE as he physically matures. And, then draft a new DT for big money's slot 4 years down the road, when it's time to pay the bigggg money to the new defensive players.

I still think they'll take a TE and speed rush DE, and maybe some flyers on dlinemen later on. Esp with the free agent. A rook can rotate in on passing downs.

ludo21 · 03-20-2006, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Slap-

I think this would be a great idea. If one of them pans out, its a solid draft already. If both of them pan out, its one of the best drafts in team history. I think they would probably develop a natural competitive rivalry and push each other to be better.

Yep., competition is HUGE. Those guys would be pushing each other for years to come.

bendog · 03-20-2006, 01:12 PM

I sorta think Tamba will get bigger and can play LDE at some pt. Kiwi looks like a prototypical RDE. jmo.

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DBroncos4life Hey pic Mod!?!?! FU Why yes, that is Bacon Bacon. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The wrong side of right. Posts: 26,580	Tamba Hail has a bad pro day Tamba Hali - DL - Player Tamba Hali ran a 4.88 at his Pro Day. Yikes. This won't help the 'tweener because he looks too slow to play outside linebacker. He also only out 225 pounds 17 times. Hali could fall out of the first round in the draft. Mar. 17 - 7:52 pm et Im not sure what others think about that, I know people where high on him during the senior bowl though.

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03-17-2006, 10:51 PM	#2
Clockwork Orange Persona Non Grata I seen him! Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,438	Awesome. I hope that teams put far too much stock in these workouts and let him fall. Grab him at 22 and Kiwanuka at 29 and we'll be set at DE for years to come.

03-18-2006, 12:44 AM	#3
Lestat Oreo Lucian Rockefeller The New Age Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 5,169	wow, i'm drooling over the possibility of Kiwi & Hali falling out of the 1st or atleast well within Denver's picks one way or another on draft day a dynamic DE comes to the Broncos

03-18-2006, 04:15 AM	#4
BritBronco Maniac Realist Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Brighton, England Posts: 2,592	There was a chance Hali was going to be there at 22, now there is a chance he will be there at 29. My first choice at 22 is still Bunkley, followed by DW2

03-18-2006, 04:52 AM	#5
broncohaven Ring of Famer I'm Orange Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Green Mountains Posts: 2,250	I would LOVE for Hali to be there when we pick. I don't care what the numbers say, he's a full speed football player that would be perfect for Denver. My ideal first round would be Bunkley/Hali, but I'd take Hali/Kiwi and still be smiling.

03-18-2006, 05:01 AM	#6
meangene Ring of Famer Offseason Mode Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 2,075	1a. Pope 1b. Hali I'd be doing cartwheels!

03-18-2006, 07:29 AM	#7
ludo21 RIP Darrent Williams Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 17,911 Adopt-a-Bronco: Paul Ernster	Hali and Kiwi!! That would be sweet!!

03-18-2006, 08:20 AM	#9
NaptownChief Donkeys Nightmare Football Pimp Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 7,490	Only speed I care about in a DE is their time in the first 15 yards....If that is lightening quick then that is pretty much all that matters.

03-18-2006, 09:13 AM	#11
Requiem ~~~ ~ ~ ~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Earth Division Posts: 19,572 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gilgamesh	I don't see why people still consider Hali a tweener guy, or ever did. He's 6'3 - 275 pounds which is solid for a defensive end. Nice, maybe we can get him!

03-18-2006, 09:50 AM	#14
Drek Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 12,317	Hali is not a workout warrior, I don't know why this surprises people. He's an average athlete for the NFL level, but he knows how to play DE and outworks every other DE in this draft. He's a lot like VandenBosch. If he slides to 29 I'd love to see us take him. I'd take him at 22, but I wouldn't be surprised if this slides him down further.

03-20-2006, 08:41 AM	#16
BroncoInferno Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: South Carolina Posts: 13,000	With Lang signing and Ekuban, Brown, and Engleberger all under contract, it seems doubtfull they will take two DEs. I'm hoping for one DE and one DT. SoCal stated on another thread that he heard/read that we were not hot on any of the DL prospect, and that worries me. You'vbe got to take a shot on these guys at some point. We've only drafted 5 DL on the drafts first day in the entire Shanny era. Even if none of the guys knock his socks off, you've got to invest some youth into the position at some point if you want to be successful long term.

03-20-2006, 08:46 AM	#17
Rascal RIP Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 16,581 Adopt-a-Bronco: Turf	The only spots that I am content with our starting players along the D-line are Warren and Brown. The rest IMO are quality backups including Lang, Myers, and Ekuban. I'm afraid that with the Lang singing Shanny is going to call it good along the DE area, and since they don't like any of the DT's in the draft I'm afraid that they won't address that any more either. Hell I wouldn't be suprised to see us completely ignore these two vital areas in the draft. The implosion here on the mane would be monumental. Save for one possible scenario....DW2/White and Pope/Lewis. Which I think is a very likely scenario.

03-20-2006, 09:01 AM	#18
Billy Clyde Puckett Billy=Semi Tough Big Guy Looking down on KC, SD and Oakland Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: between 5,000 and 10,000 feet elevation Posts: 12,665 Adopt-a-Bronco: John Elway	I won't go crazy if they go all Offense in round one if they do something like Wroten/ Anderson in rounds 2/3.

03-20-2006, 01:12 PM	#24
bendog Marginally Continent David Bowens, he'd be an upgrade Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Folsom Prison Posts: 19,935 Adopt-a-Bronco: David Bowens	I sorta think Tamba will get bigger and can play LDE at some pt. Kiwi looks like a prototypical RDE. jmo.