Canseco Says MLB and Palmeiro Conspired in Congressional Hearings - The Orange Mane

Bronco_Beerslug · 03-12-2006, 08:11 AM

On "Outside The Lines" this morning Canseco says he has information Baseball conspired to keep secret Palmeiro's steroid use to try and discredit him and shift the focus away from Baseball.
He says his source is at a high level inside baseball.

Baseball, the game, seems to be doing a fast dive into the gutter with no way out.

-Slap- · 03-12-2006, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

On "Outside The Lines" this morning Canseco says he has information Baseball conspired to keep secret Palmeiro's steroid use to try and discredit him and shift the focus away from Baseball.
He says his source is at a high level inside baseball.

Baseball, the game, seems to be doing a fast dive into the gutter with no way out.

Kind of a stupid assertion since they popped Raffy for using performance enhancers and then suspended him.

Bronco_Beerslug · 03-12-2006, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by -Slap-

Kind of a stupid assertion since they popped Raffy for using performance enhancers and then suspended him.

I don't know, after the hearings and what has happened to this point, Canseco seems to be the only one telling the truth.

He says that Palmeiro failed a test before the hearings and MLB hid it.

-Slap- · 03-12-2006, 08:44 AM

Just because Canseco was telling the truth about some things, doesn't mean his word is gold. Don't you think it makes sense for Jose to chime in every few months with another comment as long as his book is still selling a few copies?

Now if he came out and said Madonna gave him pecker warts, I would be less skeptical.

watermock · 03-12-2006, 08:50 AM

He actually got them from Ron Mexico.

Bronco_Beerslug · 03-12-2006, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by -Slap-

Just because Canseco was telling the truth about some things, doesn't mean his word is gold. Don't you think it makes sense for Jose to chime in every few months with another comment as long as his book is still selling a few copies?

Now if he came out and said Madonna gave him pecker warts, I would be less skeptical.

Was he sharing sheets with her?

I think with this and Bonds Baseball is going to have to have a complete ouside, independent investigation on what's happened in the last 10 years or so.

ro_50 · 03-12-2006, 09:12 AM

Canseco has more credibility to me than Bonds, McGwire, Raffy, or Sosa.

There was a time when I thought I would never say that.

-Slap- · 03-12-2006, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ro_50

Canseco has more credibility to me than Bonds, McGwire, Raffy, or Sosa.

There was a time when I thought I would never say that.

Agreed. Whether his credibility is enhanced by some unnamed source "at a high level inside baseball" is certainly open to debate. Sounds to me like Twitchy is just trying to goose book sales again, but nothing would really surprise me anymore.

Play2win · 03-12-2006, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

Baseball, the game, seems to be doing a fast dive into the gutter with no way out.

Yeah, and there is no Sammy Sosa and Mark McGwire to "Save" it this time...

watermock · 03-12-2006, 09:44 AM

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nothing would really surprise me anymore.
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Jason in LA · 03-12-2006, 10:19 AM

It's funny that when he said he was going to have a tell all book, people dissmised it as BS, and that he was just trying to get some pub, and some money. Well, he was trying to get some pub and money, but it wasn't BS at all.

Think about it for a second, if he didn't write that book, would MLB have had to go infront of congress, and then do something about the drug problem? Who would have thought that Canseco would be the guy to fix baseball, even if that wasn't his intentions.

Natedogg · 03-12-2006, 10:23 AM

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Nothing ever surprises me in this crazy world. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Minnow sail into the San Diego naval base with a couple japanese POW's with Ginger pregnant via Gilligan

*shakes head with a dumbfounded grin*

Atlas · 03-12-2006, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

I don't know, after the hearings and what has happened to this point, Canseco seems to be the only one telling the truth.

He says that Palmeiro failed a test before the hearings and MLB hid it.

I agree. People call Canseco a rat or whatever but everything he has said has been right on. "F" baseball.

-Slap- · 03-12-2006, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason in LA

It's funny that when he said he was going to have a tell all book, people dissmised it as BS, and that he was just trying to get some pub, and some money. Well, he was trying to get some pub and money, but it wasn't BS at all.

Think about it for a second, if he didn't write that book, would MLB have had to go infront of congress, and then do something about the drug problem? Who would have thought that Canseco would be the guy to fix baseball, even if that wasn't his intentions.

Not everybody dismissed his allegations. He was pointing fingers at guys like B*nds and McGwire who had all kinds of rumors swirling around them already. Just because he named names in his book, it doesn't mean everything he says from this point forward is the truth. Are you forgetting that Jose denied his own steroid usage for years and he only came clean when his career was over and he needed money.

-Slap- · 03-12-2006, 10:37 AM

Its a known fact the NFL buried several positive drug tests during the 80s. I'm sure they would do it again, depending on the circumstances.

Jason in LA · 03-12-2006, 11:11 AM

Didn't the NFL get the drug policy in the '80s? Seems like baseball is where the NFL was back then. I trust the NFL's drug policy. Sure, some players figure out how to cheat the system, but I'd say the NFL does the best they can, and have done a good job. Hopefully baseball can get to that level very fast.

CBF1 · 03-12-2006, 11:21 AM

Does anyone really...REALLY care about this crap anymore? Bottom line players in baseball and football use roids and others drugs, we all know it so what is this on going debate about?

I for one have had enough of it from "reporters" on the radio, TV, news print and the net.

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Bronco_Beerslug Angling in the Deep Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Texas Riviera, Southern Mountains Posts: 24,281	Canseco Says MLB and Palmeiro Conspired in Congressional Hearings On "Outside The Lines" this morning Canseco says he has information Baseball conspired to keep secret Palmeiro's steroid use to try and discredit him and shift the focus away from Baseball. He says his source is at a high level inside baseball. Baseball, the game, seems to be doing a fast dive into the gutter with no way out.

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03-12-2006, 08:44 AM	#4
-Slap- Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 31,895	Just because Canseco was telling the truth about some things, doesn't mean his word is gold. Don't you think it makes sense for Jose to chime in every few months with another comment as long as his book is still selling a few copies? Now if he came out and said Madonna gave him pecker warts, I would be less skeptical.

03-12-2006, 08:50 AM	#5
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	He actually got them from Ron Mexico.

03-12-2006, 09:12 AM	#7
ro_50 Ring of Famer Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Somewhere in Jersey Posts: 3,782	Canseco has more credibility to me than Bonds, McGwire, Raffy, or Sosa. There was a time when I thought I would never say that.

03-12-2006, 10:19 AM	#11
Jason in LA Gimmie that rep fool! Speaking of Butts & Boob Mojo Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: LA Posts: 12,254	It's funny that when he said he was going to have a tell all book, people dissmised it as BS, and that he was just trying to get some pub, and some money. Well, he was trying to get some pub and money, but it wasn't BS at all. Think about it for a second, if he didn't write that book, would MLB have had to go infront of congress, and then do something about the drug problem? Who would have thought that Canseco would be the guy to fix baseball, even if that wasn't his intentions.

03-12-2006, 10:37 AM	#15
-Slap- Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 31,895	Its a known fact the NFL buried several positive drug tests during the 80s. I'm sure they would do it again, depending on the circumstances.

03-12-2006, 11:11 AM	#16
Jason in LA Gimmie that rep fool! Speaking of Butts & Boob Mojo Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: LA Posts: 12,254	Didn't the NFL get the drug policy in the '80s? Seems like baseball is where the NFL was back then. I trust the NFL's drug policy. Sure, some players figure out how to cheat the system, but I'd say the NFL does the best they can, and have done a good job. Hopefully baseball can get to that level very fast.

03-12-2006, 11:21 AM	#17
CBF1 Ring of Famer No avatar is the new avatar Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,907 Adopt-a-Bronco: Jack Del rio	Does anyone really...REALLY care about this crap anymore? Bottom line players in baseball and football use roids and others drugs, we all know it so what is this on going debate about? I for one have had enough of it from "reporters" on the radio, TV, news print and the net.