Katrina ....... the after math and this bothers me - The Orange Mane

Spider · 03-08-2006, 10:20 PM

Nagin , Blanco, Bush , Brown , etc....... everyone is to blame yadda, yadda, yadda , But realy bothers me is Where is Sharpton ? Jesse Jackson ? I mean they was there right afterwards , but now the hard work has begun , they are no where in site ? These guys are the self proclaimed black leaders, they should be knee deep in the reconstruction of New Orleans ......... Maybe they are there and none of the liberal media covers it ? maybe I missed them on Tv the last few months .........either way , they should be leading the charge ..........

clarker · 03-08-2006, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by §Pide®

Nagin , Blanco, Bush , Brown , etc....... everyone is to blame yadda, yadda, yadda , But realy bothers me is Where is Sharpton ? Jesse Jackson ? I mean they was there right afterwards , but now the hard work has begun , they are no where in site ? These guys are the self proclaimed black leaders, they should be knee deep in the reconstruction of New Orleans ......... Maybe they are there and none of the liberal media covers it ? maybe I missed them on Tv the last few months .........either way , they should be leading the charge ..........

I agree, but why does it shock you?

Spider · 03-08-2006, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by clarker

I agree, but why does it shock you?

I didnt say it shocked me , I said it pisses me off

clarker · 03-08-2006, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by §Pide®

I didnt say it shocked me , I said it pisses me off

Yeah, I can understand that. But Katrina is off the front page, so those dudes will be no where near the Gulf Coast. I could be wrong, but I don't think I am.

Spider · 03-08-2006, 11:06 PM

It is sad, these so called leaders had a chance to step up and show everyone , that they walk the walk and talk the talk ................

Crushaholic · 03-08-2006, 11:32 PM

Congratulations. Spider just realized guys like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are phonies...

Spider · 03-08-2006, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Crushaholic

Congratulations. Spider just realized guys like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are phonies...

I didnt just realize it , I have bashed them before , but this is what seperates me from alot of people , I wont Give anyone a free ride despite thier political party , See hereis the thing I supported Bush untill I found out he was full of Shít like Sharpton and Jackson , oh and I ripped Sharpton a new one for the Twana Brawly fiasco ...... he damn near started a riot over a lie

Spider · 03-08-2006, 11:40 PM

I mean it is just sad, that people give someone a free ride despite the evidence just cause they belong to the same party ........ Makes you wonder what happened to pride in your country doesnt it ?

clarker · 03-08-2006, 11:43 PM

I disagree with Spider on almost everything but he calls out Dems when he feels they need it. Now he might not do it when you or I think he should, but that is not out of party loyality. It is because he really doesn't think they need it. But when he feels they do, he says so.

Spider · 03-08-2006, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by clarker

I disagree with Spider on almost everything but he calls out Dems when he feels they need it. Now he might not do it when you think he should, but that is not out of party loyality. It is because he really doesn't think they need it. But when he feels they do, he says so.

Thanks........

Spider · 03-08-2006, 11:50 PM

I hate a con artist , right now sharpton and Jackson are nothing more then 2 idiots that make a living off of keeping race tentions taught .......... thier not being in New orleans only proves , my opinion of them ......... Nothing but shake down artist living off the bloood sweat and tears of the black community

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 03-09-2006, 12:36 AM

I don't know that anyone here (including myself) has all the facts and all the up-to-the-minute news on Jackson and Sharpton and their involvement in the post-Katrina process, so I don't think it's fair to judge until we do.

clarker · 03-09-2006, 12:40 AM

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I don't know that anyone here (including myself) has all the facts and all the up-to-the-minute news on Jackson and Sharpton and their involvement in the post-Katrina process, so I don't think it's fair to judge until we do.

That is a good point. But if they were the leaders they claim to be shouldn't it be easy to know about their involvement on the post-Katrina process. Shouldn't they be on TV, bringing Bush and congress to task for being slow on getting the funds where they need to go?

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 03-09-2006, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by clarker

That is a good point. But if they were the leaders they claim to be shouldn't it be easy to know about their involvement on the post-Katrina process. Shouldn't they be on TV, bringing Bush and congress to task for being slow on getting the funds where they need to go?

Since when does anything like this ever get media coverage?

This is exactly the sort of thing the media doesn't want to know about.

clarker · 03-09-2006, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

Since when does anything like this ever get media coverage?

This is exactly the sort of thing the media doesn't want to know about.

Fair point. But They have a big enough name to be heard somewhere. I mean in general do they seem like they have a hard time getting on TV? Not to me they don't.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 03-09-2006, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by clarker

Fair point. But They have a big enough name to be heard somewhere. I mean in general do they seem like they have a hard time getting on TV? Not to me they don't.

I don't see either guy on TV very often.

Come to think of it, I haven't seen much TV footage from "ground zero" in NOLA and Mississippi since the immediate aftermath.

Reminds me of the media's coverage of Iraq - during the initial stages, it's 24/7 saturation coverage, then they lose interest and move on to Michael Jackson.

clarker · 03-09-2006, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

I don't see either guy on TV very often.

Come to think of it, I haven't seen much TV footage from "ground zero" in NOLA and Mississippi since the immediate aftermath.

Reminds me of the media's coverage of Iraq - during the initial stages, it's 24/7 saturation coverage, then they lose interest and move on to Michael Jackson.

I have seen neither guy lately for sure. And I agree with you about the media having a short attension span. On the other hand what does that say about the American people? I mean they put on what draws ratings, so what does that say about us that Michael Jackson draws more ratings than Iraq.

I mean no matter how much different we view Iraq, I think people who have strong feelings either for or against it, know it is more important than the circus freak that is Michael Jackson.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 03-09-2006, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by clarker

I have seen either guy lately for sure. And I agree with you about the media having a short attension span. On the other hand what does that say about the American people? I mean they put on what draws ratings, so what does that say about us that Michael Jackson draws more ratings than Iraq.

Whatever it says, it's not good. I grew up watching real news on TV, so it's sad to see news stop being news and become infotainment.

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I mean no matter how much different we view Iraq, I think people who have strong feelings either for or against it, know it is more important than the circus freak that is Michael Jackson.

Now there's something upon which I can agree with you wholeheartedly.

(Mark your calendar.

)

I would rather gargle with broken glass than have to even so much as look at Michael Jackoffson.

mosca · 03-09-2006, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

I don't know that anyone here (including myself) has all the facts and all the up-to-the-minute news on Jackson and Sharpton and their involvement in the post-Katrina process, so I don't think it's fair to judge until we do.

ha! this coming from someone who never hesitates to accuse someone of being a bush apologist or defender when they say something similar about the administration on any given situation, no matter what the topic. totally predictable.

bendog · 03-09-2006, 08:45 AM

I dunno about the Revs Al and Jesse, but on Ed Gordon's "black" NPR show he's had several pieces on how and whether displaced black voters will get to vote in nawlins upcoming election, in which Nagin most likely will lose to a white guy. Right now, nawlins has prolly 60-40 white majority actually living there. btw, I'm planning on a trip down there next week. First time since Katriana. I don't think i have the heart to visit the Mississippi Coast though. Apparantly, it's just "flat" for about five blocks back from the beach.

Spider · 03-09-2006, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

I don't know that anyone here (including myself) has all the facts and all the up-to-the-minute news on Jackson and Sharpton and their involvement in the post-Katrina process, so I don't think it's fair to judge until we do.

see this is the point Bro , Sharpton and Jackson are leaders in the Black community , they should be making thier voices heard, they should be out front telling young Black men to get involved , rebuild thier community , help thier nieghbor , help a fellow American , It is times like these you need your leaders

bendog · 03-09-2006, 09:25 AM

Houston Griping (hey, with bush, Hou deserves the ingrates)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11677333/site/newsweek/

Kids helping

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...u=/nm/20060306

It's enough to make me cry knowing Ocean Springs is no more.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...story?coll=la-

Money, money, money (who loves rachel ray)

http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunherald/14044405.htm

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 03-09-2006, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mosca

ha! this coming from someone who never hesitates to accuse someone of being a bush apologist or defender when they say something similar about the administration on any given situation, no matter what the topic. totally predictable.

Bad analogy.

We're talking about making assumptions before the facts are known.

Unlike Jackson or Sharpton, nearly everything Bush does is front page news, so getting the facts isn't that difficult.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 03-09-2006, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by §Pide®

see this is the point Bro , Sharpton and Jackson are leaders in the Black community , they should be making thier voices heard

How?

The MSM isn't interested in anything they might have to say.

Spider · 03-09-2006, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

How?

The MSM isn't interested in anything they might have to say.

B.E.T. for starters , Ebony mag for another , Talk shows like the View , Montell Williams , there are plenty ways of them getting out , Hell Denzell Washington even spoke out at a basketball game ......Hell have some woman come forward say she is knocked up with Sharptons love child , that would get the ball rolling

03-08-2006, 10:20 PM	#1
Spider Mr Diplomacy I survived Tebow Mania at the Mane Join Date: May 2001 Location: Elway was just an arm =MacGruder Posts: 84,438 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Katrina ....... the after math and this bothers me Nagin , Blanco, Bush , Brown , etc....... everyone is to blame yadda, yadda, yadda , But realy bothers me is Where is Sharpton ? Jesse Jackson ? I mean they was there right afterwards , but now the hard work has begun , they are no where in site ? These guys are the self proclaimed black leaders, they should be knee deep in the reconstruction of New Orleans ......... Maybe they are there and none of the liberal media covers it ? maybe I missed them on Tv the last few months .........either way , they should be leading the charge ..........

03-08-2006, 11:43 PM	#9
clarker Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,445	I disagree with Spider on almost everything but he calls out Dems when he feels they need it. Now he might not do it when you or I think he should, but that is not out of party loyality. It is because he really doesn't think they need it. But when he feels they do, he says so. Last edited by clarker; 03-08-2006 at 11:54 PM..

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03-08-2006, 11:06 PM	#5
Spider Mr Diplomacy I survived Tebow Mania at the Mane Join Date: May 2001 Location: Elway was just an arm =MacGruder Posts: 84,438 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	It is sad, these so called leaders had a chance to step up and show everyone , that they walk the walk and talk the talk ................

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Crushaholic Armchair Poster Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Topeka, KS Posts: 22,043	Congratulations. Spider just realized guys like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are phonies...

03-08-2006, 11:40 PM	#8
Spider Mr Diplomacy I survived Tebow Mania at the Mane Join Date: May 2001 Location: Elway was just an arm =MacGruder Posts: 84,438 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	I mean it is just sad, that people give someone a free ride despite the evidence just cause they belong to the same party ........ Makes you wonder what happened to pride in your country doesnt it ?

03-08-2006, 11:50 PM	#11
Spider Mr Diplomacy I survived Tebow Mania at the Mane Join Date: May 2001 Location: Elway was just an arm =MacGruder Posts: 84,438 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	I hate a con artist , right now sharpton and Jackson are nothing more then 2 idiots that make a living off of keeping race tentions taught .......... thier not being in New orleans only proves , my opinion of them ......... Nothing but shake down artist living off the bloood sweat and tears of the black community

03-09-2006, 12:36 AM	#12
L.A. BRONCOS FAN Mo' holla fo' yo' dolla! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a bunker in an undisclosed location Posts: 52,694	I don't know that anyone here (including myself) has all the facts and all the up-to-the-minute news on Jackson and Sharpton and their involvement in the post-Katrina process, so I don't think it's fair to judge until we do.

03-09-2006, 08:45 AM	#20
bendog Marginally Continent David Bowens, he'd be an upgrade Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Folsom Prison Posts: 19,935 Adopt-a-Bronco: David Bowens	I dunno about the Revs Al and Jesse, but on Ed Gordon's "black" NPR show he's had several pieces on how and whether displaced black voters will get to vote in nawlins upcoming election, in which Nagin most likely will lose to a white guy. Right now, nawlins has prolly 60-40 white majority actually living there. btw, I'm planning on a trip down there next week. First time since Katriana. I don't think i have the heart to visit the Mississippi Coast though. Apparantly, it's just "flat" for about five blocks back from the beach.

03-09-2006, 09:25 AM	#22
bendog Marginally Continent David Bowens, he'd be an upgrade Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Folsom Prison Posts: 19,935 Adopt-a-Bronco: David Bowens	Houston Griping (hey, with bush, Hou deserves the ingrates) http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11677333/site/newsweek/ Kids helping http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...u=/nm/20060306 It's enough to make me cry knowing Ocean Springs is no more. http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...story?coll=la- Money, money, money (who loves rachel ray) http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunherald/14044405.htm