Salary Cap Deadline Pushed to 11-00pm Eastern - The Orange Mane

eddie mac · 03-08-2006, 05:36 PM

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drm...525289,00.html

Another deadline delayed in NFL labor talks

NFL future getting tense
By Dave Goldberg, Associated Press
March 8, 2006
GRAPEVINE, Texas — The NFL delayed another deadline on Wednesday.
A little more than two hours before the latest deadline to accept or turn down the NFL Players Association's offer to extend the labor agreement, the owners pushed it back again. This time they extended the deadline for teams to get under the salary cap by two hours, from 9 p.m. EST until 11 p.m.

With that, the owners kept talking as they tried to resolve the sticky issue of expanded revenue sharing that has tied them up for two years. The additional money it would generate is considered the best way the owners can accede to the union's request for just less than 60 percent of the league's total revenues.

NFL spokesman Joe Browne, in announcing the deadline change, said it was made to give additional time to reach agreement on the complicated plans on which they are working. The 8 p.m. EST deadline for informing the union whether the owners accept or reject their proposal stands, although there was some question whether the league might be switching time zones — Gene Upshaw, the executive director of the players union was in Hawaii, where 8 p.m. would be 1 a.m EST.
The owners' marathon meeting started Tuesday and ended with labor peace nowhere in sight.

Earlier Wednesday, there was still clearly no consensus.

Jerry Jones of Dallas, the leader of the group opposing revenue sharing, said he was dismayed by developments. Indianapolis' Jim Irsay, one of the spokesmen for the low-revenue teams that want help from the richer teams suggested the league needed a consensus builder like the late Wellington Mara of the New York Giants, the last of the NFL's founding generation, who died last October.

"We need the ghost of St. Wellington to appear with some of the forefathers," Irsay said.

Despite the latest delay, free agency, twice delayed, is still scheduled to begin Thursday at 12:01 a.m. EST if owners turn down the union's offer. If they approve it, free agency will start Friday.

Meanwhile, there was as much lobbying going on as discussion.

At the lunch break, Mara's son John, along with Jerry Richardson of Carolina and Pat Bowlen of Denver met with commissioner Paul Tagliabue in an attempt to find a way to build a consensus. All three are considered "league" men, owners who will do what they think is best for the league, something Tagliabue urged during Tuesday's session.

They seemed to be aligned, somewhat surprisingly, with Oakland's Al Davis, a maverick with a long history of court fights with the league. "I love my country and I love my league," Davis said repeatedly.

Maybe I'm just pessimistic but if they've extended the cap deadline by 2 hrs it must mean they dont anticipate a deal being done, instead of saying no and giving teams 1 hour to get under the cap looks like they're now giving them 3 hrs, Hope to hell I'm wrong though.

Hercules Rockefeller · 03-08-2006, 05:37 PM

eddie mac · 03-08-2006, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Hercules Rockefeller

Lame

You think it's a no Herc?

nwmsu-bronco · 03-08-2006, 05:47 PM

I dunno I'm going to stay optimistic I'll just hope they're extending the deadline because they feel they convince enough to get the deal done. It's only hope though... sigh...

Hercules Rockefeller · 03-08-2006, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by eddie mac

You think it's a no Herc?

Don't know, I'm just tired of the delays.

Clockwork Orange · 03-08-2006, 05:48 PM

They're ****ing killin' us with these delays.

Bronco_Beerslug · 03-08-2006, 05:49 PM

Jerry Jones doesn't want to share his money with anyone and doesn't care how much he has to pay in salaries. Looks like a few greedy owners could screw up the whole thing.

eddie mac · 03-08-2006, 05:52 PM

As far as I understand from that though the original decision is still scheduled for 10 minutes time.

Hercules Rockefeller · 03-08-2006, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddie mac

As far as I understand from that though the original decision is still scheduled for 10 minutes time.

Correct

ro_50 · 03-08-2006, 05:54 PM

Who knows, these deadlines are lame.

If they drag this out and there is not agreement, it was all for a LOST CAUSE.

They just need to get this thing freaking over w/.

2KBack · 03-08-2006, 05:56 PM

I'm actually starting to not care what happens

ro_50 · 03-08-2006, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 2KBack

I'm actually starting to not care what happens

Me too.

I'm just focusing on Championship Week in college basketball.

shakenbake · 03-08-2006, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

Jerry Jones doesn't want to share his money with anyone and doesn't care how much he has to pay in salaries. Looks like a few greedy owners could screw up the whole thing.

Or you could say if some owners would do a better job of marketing thier team they could make more money in their markets and not need Jerry Jones' money. I dont think Jerry Jones' or any of the owners should be punished for running a good franchise. Why should they give the Vikings any money while they sit 24 million under the cap. You think if the AZ Cardinals get more money they are going to spend it on players. No they are gonna pocket the money and go about their business.

nwmsu-bronco · 03-08-2006, 06:04 PM

They just said that things are really optimistic and they are getting close to agreeing. But of course it's still very complicated.

TheReverend · 03-08-2006, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by nwmsu-bronco

They just said that things are really optimistic and they are getting close to agreeing. But of course it's still very complicated.

Thats the twentieth time Ive heard that the past month

shakenbake · 03-08-2006, 06:09 PM

I think I tend to side with the owners who are on high end of revenues over the ones that want a peice of thier pie. It would be differnt if the buy in was the same for every franchise but just look at how much more Bob Mcnair and Dainel Synder had to pay to purchase a franchise Vs. what Ziggi Wilif had to pay to get the Vikings. The others took a greater risk and have a larger investment therefore they should be making more money. Smaller risk lower investment less of a return on your money. Seems simple to me, but no you have owners who want a big peice of the pie without the investment.

kent156 · 03-08-2006, 06:11 PM

wait don't they just need more yes votes then no to get this deal done or they trying to get everyone to agree

Bronco_Beerslug · 03-08-2006, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by shakenbake

Or you could say if some owners would do a better job of marketing thier team they could make more money in their markets and not need Jerry Jones' money. I dont think Jerry Jones' or any of the owners should be punished for running a good franchise. Why should they give the Vikings any money while they sit 24 million under the cap. You think if the AZ Cardinals get more money they are going to spend it on players. No they are gonna pocket the money and go about their business.

A little more complicated than that. Not a lot of these owners fault that they don't have teams in the major markets and it's in the leagues best interest overall to have a competitive league.

Arkansas Bronco · 03-08-2006, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

They're ****ing killin' us with these delays.

It is giving us time to re-sign our own guys though so there is a good side...i guess

shakenbake · 03-08-2006, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

A little more complicated than that. Not a lot of these owners fault that they don't have teams in the major markets and it's in the leagues best interest overall to have a competitive league.

Why isn't it their fault ? They bought the teams didn't they? If they put up the money guys like Snyder, Mcnair, and Jones did then im sure they would expect to make a little more money than they guy who invested a couple of hundread million less.

I would feel alittle less sorry for them if they were spending the money they were already sharring but go down the list and the Raiders are pretty much the only "small market" team that spends their cap.

baja · 03-08-2006, 06:20 PM

they will get the 23 necussary votes to ratify an agreement in the next 2 hours

Hide and watch

ro_50 · 03-08-2006, 06:24 PM

On NFL network, they said minutes ago a decision is expected to be made by 8:30 EST.

watermock · 03-08-2006, 06:30 PM

Ziggy paid less because of market size and the fact it's a crap venue. He's committed to 1 billion in funding for the stadium/commercial complex. I'm not sure if that even covers the land costs.

WTF is Upshaw doing in Hawaii, using his requent flyer miles?

shakenbake · 03-08-2006, 06:30 PM

Isn't that now ?

shakenbake · 03-08-2006, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by watermock

Ziggy paid less because of market size and the fact it's a crap venue. He's committed to 1 billion in funding for the stadium/commercial complex. I'm not sure if that even covers the land costs.

WTF is Upshaw doing in Hawaii, using his requent flyer miles?

Exactly you pay less and therefore are probably gonna make less. Now say he invests more money and gets a new stadium etc. then there is a good chance he will start to make more money.

03-08-2006, 05:36 PM	#1
eddie mac Ireland's No1 Bronco Eddie Mac 87 gone but never forgott Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: IRELAND Posts: 15,573 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rod Smith	Salary Cap Deadline Pushed to 11-00pm Eastern http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drm...525289,00.html Another deadline delayed in NFL labor talks NFL future getting tense By Dave Goldberg, Associated Press March 8, 2006 GRAPEVINE, Texas — The NFL delayed another deadline on Wednesday. A little more than two hours before the latest deadline to accept or turn down the NFL Players Association's offer to extend the labor agreement, the owners pushed it back again. This time they extended the deadline for teams to get under the salary cap by two hours, from 9 p.m. EST until 11 p.m. With that, the owners kept talking as they tried to resolve the sticky issue of expanded revenue sharing that has tied them up for two years. The additional money it would generate is considered the best way the owners can accede to the union's request for just less than 60 percent of the league's total revenues. NFL spokesman Joe Browne, in announcing the deadline change, said it was made to give additional time to reach agreement on the complicated plans on which they are working. The 8 p.m. EST deadline for informing the union whether the owners accept or reject their proposal stands, although there was some question whether the league might be switching time zones — Gene Upshaw, the executive director of the players union was in Hawaii, where 8 p.m. would be 1 a.m EST. The owners' marathon meeting started Tuesday and ended with labor peace nowhere in sight. Earlier Wednesday, there was still clearly no consensus. Jerry Jones of Dallas, the leader of the group opposing revenue sharing, said he was dismayed by developments. Indianapolis' Jim Irsay, one of the spokesmen for the low-revenue teams that want help from the richer teams suggested the league needed a consensus builder like the late Wellington Mara of the New York Giants, the last of the NFL's founding generation, who died last October. "We need the ghost of St. Wellington to appear with some of the forefathers," Irsay said. Despite the latest delay, free agency, twice delayed, is still scheduled to begin Thursday at 12:01 a.m. EST if owners turn down the union's offer. If they approve it, free agency will start Friday. Meanwhile, there was as much lobbying going on as discussion. At the lunch break, Mara's son John, along with Jerry Richardson of Carolina and Pat Bowlen of Denver met with commissioner Paul Tagliabue in an attempt to find a way to build a consensus. All three are considered "league" men, owners who will do what they think is best for the league, something Tagliabue urged during Tuesday's session. They seemed to be aligned, somewhat surprisingly, with Oakland's Al Davis, a maverick with a long history of court fights with the league. "I love my country and I love my league," Davis said repeatedly. Maybe I'm just pessimistic but if they've extended the cap deadline by 2 hrs it must mean they dont anticipate a deal being done, instead of saying no and giving teams 1 hour to get under the cap looks like they're now giving them 3 hrs, Hope to hell I'm wrong though.

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03-08-2006, 05:37 PM	#2
Hercules Rockefeller Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 16,013 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ Williams	Lame

03-08-2006, 05:47 PM	#4
nwmsu-bronco Draft Lendale White Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 127	I dunno I'm going to stay optimistic I'll just hope they're extending the deadline because they feel they convince enough to get the deal done. It's only hope though... sigh...

03-08-2006, 05:48 PM	#6
Clockwork Orange Persona Non Grata I seen him! Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,438	They're ****ing killin' us with these delays.

03-08-2006, 05:49 PM	#7
Bronco_Beerslug Angling in the Deep Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Texas Riviera, Southern Mountains Posts: 24,281	Jerry Jones doesn't want to share his money with anyone and doesn't care how much he has to pay in salaries. Looks like a few greedy owners could screw up the whole thing.

03-08-2006, 05:52 PM	#8
eddie mac Ireland's No1 Bronco Eddie Mac 87 gone but never forgott Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: IRELAND Posts: 15,573 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rod Smith	As far as I understand from that though the original decision is still scheduled for 10 minutes time.

03-08-2006, 05:54 PM	#10
ro_50 Ring of Famer Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Somewhere in Jersey Posts: 3,782	Who knows, these deadlines are lame. If they drag this out and there is not agreement, it was all for a LOST CAUSE. They just need to get this thing freaking over w/.

03-08-2006, 05:56 PM	#11
2KBack Rumblin' Bumblin' Cake is delicious Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wash DC Posts: 7,283	I'm actually starting to not care what happens

03-08-2006, 06:04 PM	#14
nwmsu-bronco Draft Lendale White Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 127	They just said that things are really optimistic and they are getting close to agreeing. But of course it's still very complicated.

03-08-2006, 06:09 PM	#16
shakenbake Texas Homer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Shanghai, China Posts: 3,136	I think I tend to side with the owners who are on high end of revenues over the ones that want a peice of thier pie. It would be differnt if the buy in was the same for every franchise but just look at how much more Bob Mcnair and Dainel Synder had to pay to purchase a franchise Vs. what Ziggi Wilif had to pay to get the Vikings. The others took a greater risk and have a larger investment therefore they should be making more money. Smaller risk lower investment less of a return on your money. Seems simple to me, but no you have owners who want a big peice of the pie without the investment.

03-08-2006, 06:11 PM	#17
kent156 King of the Ants Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Paradise lost Posts: 687	wait don't they just need more yes votes then no to get this deal done or they trying to get everyone to agree

03-08-2006, 06:20 PM	#21
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: in a bunker Posts: 54,372 Adopt-a-Bronco: Julius Thomas	they will get the 23 necussary votes to ratify an agreement in the next 2 hours Hide and watch

03-08-2006, 06:24 PM	#22
ro_50 Ring of Famer Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Somewhere in Jersey Posts: 3,782	On NFL network, they said minutes ago a decision is expected to be made by 8:30 EST.

03-08-2006, 06:30 PM	#23
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	Ziggy paid less because of market size and the fact it's a crap venue. He's committed to 1 billion in funding for the stadium/commercial complex. I'm not sure if that even covers the land costs. WTF is Upshaw doing in Hawaii, using his requent flyer miles?