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Old 03-06-2006, 02:13 PM   #301
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This may shock some of you, but I haven't yet received a single vote for round two.
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Old 03-06-2006, 02:16 PM   #302
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This may shock some of you, but I haven't yet received a single vote for round two.
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Old 03-06-2006, 02:35 PM   #303
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I probably better cover an issue here, before things get too twisted.

It's possible that either 24champ or dagmar or both will simply not show up for round two. In that event, the automatic elimination clause would kick in.

Any votes cast against them in this round would be legal votes.

But, what happens if one of them comes in here and formally announces his withdrawal from the game? Would he still be a legal target for this round?

And the same question could come up in future rounds with other players if they wind up withdrawing or missing a round somewhere down the line....

The answer is "Yes." Anyone who starts the round alive and in the game IS A LEGAL TARGET for the rest of that round even if they formally announce a withdrawal.

That's not a great way of dealing with things, but I've considered the alternative ways of approaching this, and they would even be worse.
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I probably better cover an issue here, before things get too twisted.

It's possible that either 24champ or dagmar or both will simply not show up for round two. In that event, the automatic elimination clause would kick in.

Any votes cast against them in this round would be legal votes.

But, what happens if one of them comes in here and formally announces his withdrawal from the game? Would he still be a legal target for this round?

And the same question could come up in future rounds with other players if they wind up withdrawing or missing a round somewhere down the line....

The answer is "Yes." Anyone who starts the round alive and in the game IS A LEGAL TARGET for the rest of that round even if they formally announce a withdrawal.

That's not a great way of dealing with things, but I've considered the alternative ways of approaching this, and they would even be worse.
So if either of them in any future rounds doesn't show up then whoever was voted off by the majority is still alive? Hmmmm
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Old 03-06-2006, 02:39 PM   #305
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So if either of them in any future rounds doesn't show up then whoever was voted off by the majority is still alive? Hmmmm
No. That's not what I said.

The person who gets the majority vote always dies.
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Old 03-06-2006, 02:45 PM   #306
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The situation I'm talking about is this...

Let's say player X already has an asterisk beside his name, because he's missed an earlier round or he's cast an illegal vote or whatever. But he's only had one mistake, and he's still in the game in round 9, for example.

Voting then starts in Round 9, and after four votes are cast, it turns out that one of those votes is for player X - - and the other three are for someone else - - player Z.

Player X then shows up on the forum, before the voting is done, and says "I quit."

The player who already voted against player X that round doesn't get to re-vote. (Nor is he forced to re-vote, either.) The vote against X is simply considered a done deal, and because it was legal when it was done, it stands and counts, regardless of whether X claims he's still in the game.

What's more is that Player X continues to be a legal target until that round is over.

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Old 03-06-2006, 02:47 PM   #307
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so if player X doesnt vote again, he is auto eliminated.

Then in that same round the person with the most votes is also booted.
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Exactly. If it turns out that player Z got the most votes, and that player X, true to his word, did not vote and elected to withdraw, then X is kicked out on the disqualification, and Z is killed by majority vote.

They'd both die.
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Exactly. If it turns out that player Z got the most votes, and that player X, true to his word, did not vote and elected to withdraw, then X is kicked out on the disqualification, and Z is killed by majority vote.

They'd both die.
not just die

but disembowled by the zombie at the kaybee toys
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Exactly. If it turns out that player Z got the most votes, and that player X, true to his word, did not vote and elected to withdraw, then X is kicked out on the disqualification, and Z is killed by majority vote.

They'd both die.
Excellent. The bloodier the better.
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The situation I'm talking about is this...

Let's say player X already has an asterisk beside his name, because he's missed an earlier round or he's cast an illegal vote or whatever. But he's only had one mistake, and he's still in the game in round 9, for example.

Voting then starts in Round 9, and after four votes are cast, it turns out that one of those votes is for player X - - and the other three are for someone else - - player Z.

Player X then shows up on the forum, before the voting is done, and says "I quit."

The player who already voted against player X that round doesn't get to re-vote. (Nor is he forced to re-vote, either.) The vote against X is simply considered a done deal, and because it was legal when it was done, it stands and counts, regardless of whether X claims he's still in the game.

What's more is that Player X continues to be a legal target until that round is over.
Thats all good and everything but have you thought about how that would affect player Y since he may have wanted to vote for player W but then realized Player M is a better target.
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The difference between being killed by majority vote and committing hari-kari by missing votes (or withdrawing) is that the guy who got murdered gets to come back with a vengeance for the one round following his death, and also gets to sit on the final jury (if he chooses).

The ones who commit "rules suicide" just wither away. They don't get payback attacks, and they don't get to be on the jury. (Though, like anyone else, they can vote in the public poll at the end).
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Old 03-06-2006, 02:57 PM   #313
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Thats all good and everything but have you thought about how that would affect player Y since he may have wanted to vote for player W but then realized Player M is a better target.
Yes, I thought about that. But if I go that route, it gets too complicated, so I'm not going to do it that way.
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but what happens to player Q and player F in this?
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Bottom line -

There are some advantages to voting against people with asterisks. (Who I prefer to think of as the weak, the sickly, and the small.)

If they don't show up, then you managed to cast an aggressive, legal vote, without P.O.ing anybody important, because your victim can't come back and get you later. (Except maybe in your conscience)

On the other hand, if you are playing this game with an "attack" philosophy, then you might not want to waste your energy on the "weak and defenseless" - - instead, you might want to use your vote to try to get rid of someone who poses a bigger present threat to yourself.

Just depends how you want to approach the game.

It's pretty evil, either way, I guess.
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I thought round 1 vote was today!!!! AAAAAAAAARGH! I'm gonna have to read this whole thread. I'm sorry guys. I'm so so screwed.
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but what happens to player Q and player F in this?
Q was F()cked by F earlier, and F was sh()tted on by S as revenge.
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ok we have a Queef fan in the house, all of the Natty light is gone.
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Bottom line -

There are some advantages to voting against people with asterisks. (Who I prefer to think of as the weak, the sickly, and the small.)

If they don't show up, then you managed to cast an aggressive, legal vote, without P.O.ing anybody important, because your victim can't come back and get you later. (Except maybe in your conscience)

On the other hand, if you are playing this game with an "attack" philosophy, then you might not want to waste your energy on the "weak and defenseless" - - instead, you might want to use your vote to try to get rid of someone who poses a bigger present threat to yourself.

Just depends how you want to approach the game.

It's pretty evil, either way, I guess.
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Okay Dagmar, welcome to the show.

The good news is that you are still alive. The bad news is that you have one asterisk against you, so if you miss any more rounds, you'd be disqualified.

Everyone gets one free mistake.

Yours has been used.
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Q was F()cked by F earlier, and F was sh()tted on by S as revenge.
I thought F smelled of crap.
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F was paired with U to make some beautiful music...
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Okay Dagmar, welcome to the show.

The good news is that you are still alive. The bad news is that you have one asterisk against you, so if you miss any more rounds, you'd be disqualified.

Everyone gets one free mistake.

Yours has been used.
Damn. sorry folks. BAck now.
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Bottom line -

There are some advantages to voting against people with asterisks. (Who I prefer to think of as the weak, the sickly, and the small.)

If they don't show up, then you managed to cast an aggressive, legal vote, without P.O.ing anybody important, because your victim can't come back and get you later. (Except maybe in your conscience)

On the other hand, if you are playing this game with an "attack" philosophy, then you might not want to waste your energy on the "weak and defenseless" - - instead, you might want to use your vote to try to get rid of someone who poses a bigger present threat to yourself.

Just depends how you want to approach the game.

It's pretty evil, either way, I guess.
In addition to the "Brutal" evil and the "Oppressive" evil, there is one more evil strategy that I've seen - - the incompetent bureaucratic evil. This strategy consists of play that is very aggressive on its face, except for one thing. The objective is to never actually make an enemy by hurting anyone. Instead, you try to figure out who is least likely to get killed in a given round- - and vote for them. This sometimes has the appearance of total futility and incompetence, but it is actually quite an art. The danger, of course, is in voting against someoe who holds grudges or who is a little too paranoid. Because they'll hate you even if you weren't trying to kill them.

And, unfortunately, that's almost everyone.
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In addition to the "Brutal" evil and the "Oppressive" evil, there is one more evil strategy that I've seen - - the incompetent bureaucratic evil. This strategy consists of play that is very aggressive on its face, except for one thing. The objective is to never actually make an enemy by hurting anyone. Instead, you try to figure out who is least likely to get killed in a given round- - and vote for them. This sometimes has the appearance of total futility and incompetence, but it is actually quite an art. The danger, of course, is in voting against someoe who holds grudges or who is a little too paranoid. Because they'll hate you even if you weren't trying to kill them.

And, unfortunately, that's almost everyone.
that happened to me in season 1
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