PFT: Broncos reached deal for Abraham! - Page 5 - The Orange Mane

Rock Chalk · 03-02-2006, 06:12 PM

OK man.

What the **** is going on? I just saw this thread and read the first page and the last page and decided no one knows **** really but the title says we did trade for him.

I gather some kid "leaked" the story and his credibility came into question. Thn it was later reported by ESPN's own Pasta Belly (and, apparently Clayton) and now said kid's credibility has been restored?

What the ****, Pasta and Clayton were probably using the kid as the source!

I dont know Abraham, so I dont want him. I know Peppers, I want him.

WABronco · 03-02-2006, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cabronco

I didnt like when Abraham sat out a couple playoff games, a couple years ago with a boo boo. But his sack totals last year were more than Pryce/ Brown/ Ekuban / Engelberger put together. No doubt to me, we could use a DE of this caliber.

Depends on what you choose to believe. What the Jets want you to hear or what is presented by conflicting reports...

HEAV · 03-02-2006, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by elsid13

Smizzy

Serious question, would the Jets Fanbase be glad to see this guy go?

Yes many want him gone.

The dude scares me. He's Mr glass jaw when it comes to playing with injury's and even staying healthy for a season.

He's not worth a #1. Especially with this draft being deep! Denver will have a solid shot a top rated pass rusher and at a cheaper price then Abraham would cost.

T.O. yes he plays. Abraham no he's not a player.

Hercules Rockefeller · 03-02-2006, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Alec

I gather some kid "leaked" the story and his credibility came into question. Thn it was later reported by ESPN's own Pasta Belly (and, apparently Clayton) and now said kid's credibility has been restored?

What the ****, Pasta and Clayton were probably using the kid as the source!

The ESPN guy's stuff came out on Monday or Tuesday, the kid's crap came out today

WABronco · 03-02-2006, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Smizzy

I told you.

The kid told us 3 days in advance Sowell and Fabini were gonna be cut
He reported before any news outlet.

Check his site. it's on there. and he goes to BC and is a smart kid. He's not some kid in his mothers house making a webcam show.

I was just commenting on how I found it sort of funny...

I believe him. Why would he destroy his credibility and his own website?

Broncoman13 · 03-02-2006, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Popps

That said, wouldn't this kind of mean we got Bailey and Abraham for Portis? I'll take that every day, and twice on Sunday. (And we still have a 1st round pick left.)

Yeah, if you forget about the 1st round pick we sent to the Skins last year for their 1st this year. Remember, pick #25, Jason Campbell or whatever his name was?

Clockwork Orange · 03-02-2006, 06:18 PM

I just love that we've got two threads of five plus pages based on a rumor that's being reported by some kid with a web cam and PFT.

The only thing that really should be discussed about this is which of those two has less credibility. I think it's a coin toss.

epicSocialism4tw · 03-02-2006, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by HEAV

Yes many want him gone.

The dude scares me. He's Mr glass jaw when it comes to playing with injury's and even staying healthy for a season.

He's not worth a #1. Especially with this draft being deep! Denver will have a solid shot a top rated pass rusher and at a cheaper price then Abraham would cost.

T.O. yes he plays. Abraham no he's not a player.

That's what I'm sayin'.

Why not just add a player through free agency and keep the #1? Brentson Buckner is floating around in space right now. Derrick Brooks is floating in space. No reason to tie up cap in a guy that doesnt play that much (see Trevor Pryce).

Not only that, but if Denver needed to get rid of a #1 to save cap space, they could package them together to move up for a player they target. No need to throw one out the window.

WABronco · 03-02-2006, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

I just love that we've got two threads of five plus pages based on a rumor that's being reported by some kid with a web cam and PFT.

The only thing that really should be discussed about this is which of those two has less credibility. I think it's a coin toss.

...all this started when someone posted a Bergen Record article saying that a deal for Abraham was in place.

SoCalBronco · 03-02-2006, 06:20 PM

Im going to be furious if they trade for him. Dont give up anything. Especially not a first. ****

SouthStndJunkie · 03-02-2006, 06:21 PM

Last 10 guys selected at #29 in the 1st Round:

Marlin Jackson
Michael Jenkins
Nick Barnett
Marc Columbo
Ryan Pickett
R.Jay Soward
Dimitrius Underwood
John Avery
Chris Canty
Jamain Stephens

watermock · 03-02-2006, 06:21 PM

Well, I'm lukewarm...I think T.O. would help us more, or maybe hurt us more. This CBA extention only muddies the water even more. I don't think Abraham is worth a first for several obvious reasons. Money, injuries, attitude and age.

He's also light at 255, the same weight as V. Davis. He does get sacks when healthy, but the first thing a DE loses is speed with age. PASS unless it's a second.

What a mess

SouthStndJunkie · 03-02-2006, 06:21 PM

All 10 of those guys combined could not carry Abraham's jock.

SSJ

Clockwork Orange · 03-02-2006, 06:22 PM

People wonder why the Broncos can't fix the pass rush. Well, maybe because they haven't used a 1st rounder on a D-lineman since Trevor Pryce in 1996.

Now they've got two first rounders at their disposal and a chance to beef up the D-line with two strong, young D-line prospects and they want to deal one of those picks away? You've got to be ****ing kidding me.

WABronco · 03-02-2006, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthStndJunkie

Last 10 guys selected at #29 in the 1st Round:

Marlin Jackson
Michael Jenkins
Nick Barnett
Marc Columbo
Ryan Pickett
R.Jay Soward
Dimitrius Underwood
John Avery
Chris Canty
Jamain Stephens

Wow, those are some solid names........

BlitzingDog · 03-02-2006, 06:22 PM

Brenston Bucker is probably gonna retire.

Atlas · 03-02-2006, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthStndJunkie

Last 10 guys selected at #29 in the 1st Round:

Marlin Jackson
Michael Jenkins
Nick Barnett
Marc Columbo
Ryan Pickett
R.Jay Soward
Dimitrius Underwood
John Avery
Chris Canty
Jamain Stephens

Great post!! Alot of impact players on that list

WABronco · 03-02-2006, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

People wonder why the Broncos can't fix the pass rush. Well, maybe because they haven't used a 1st rounder on a D-lineman since Trevor Pryce in 1996.

Now they've got two first rounders at their disposal and a chance to beef up the D-line with two strong D-line prospects and they want to deal one of those picks away? You've got to be ****ing kidding me.

Who's to say they won't go with Kiwi, Hali, or Bunkley at 22? Sure, it may be a bit impractical, but it's possible...

Hercules Rockefeller · 03-02-2006, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

I just love that we've got two threads of five plus pages based on a rumor that's being reported by some kid with a web cam and PFT.

I wouldn't even say PFT is reporting the rumor, they're just repeating what the kid said. You could at least give some more weight to it if PFT says their own sources say the same thing, but reporting what a kid in a dormroom says is pretty weak.

BlitzingDog · 03-02-2006, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthStndJunkie

All 10 of those guys combined could not carry Abraham's jock.

SSJ

So lets give up the 29th pick all because past #29 overall haven't worked out? So if we are sitting at 28th and they all turned out well it would be much different huh? lol

Atlas · 03-02-2006, 06:24 PM

If this is true I'm in favor of it. Denver is close to being a SB team. They need an impact player. The 29th selection is not going to be an impact player. If this is true Denver just got a whole lot better.

WABronco · 03-02-2006, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Hercules Rockefeller

I wouldn't even say PFT is reporting the rumor, they're just repeating what the kid said. You could at least give some more weight to it if PFT says their own sources say the same thing, but reporting what a kid in a dormroom says is pretty weak.

They said they were "looking into it," so hopefully they get another report out soon...

SouthStndJunkie · 03-02-2006, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BlitzingDog

So lets give up the 29th pick all because past #29 overall haven't worked out? So if we are sitting at 28th and they all turned out well it would be much different huh? lol

No, let's give up the 29th pick for a guy who has had 10+ sacks 4 out of the last 5 years.

Let's give up the 29th pick for a guy that can make an impact now.

We have about a 2 year window with the current core of veterans.

SSJ

12th man · 03-02-2006, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by angryllama

That's what I'm sayin'.

Why not just add a player through free agency and keep the #1? Brentson Buckner is floating around in space right now. Derrick Brooks is floating in space. No reason to tie up cap in a guy that doesnt play that much (see Trevor Pryce).

Not only that, but if Denver needed to get rid of a #1 to save cap space, they could package them together to move up for a player they target. No need to throw one out the window.

I would take Buckner over JA. Maybe Abraham is cheaper than buckner? But I would not be upset if we get Abraham. He would still be an upgrade compared to Pryces' season last year.

Clockwork Orange · 03-02-2006, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by WABronco

Who's to say they won't go with Kiwi, Hali, or Bunkley at 22? Sure, it may be a bit impractical, but it's possible...

Not likely.

Keep both picks and get a pair of young, promising D-linemen who combined will cost less than Abraham.

View Poll Results: May as well add a poll...What are your feelings on the Abraham trade rumors
Great move! But only if new CBA deal is reached.	12	18.46%
Great move! Regardless of CBA negotiations/outcome	35	53.85%
Bad move!	18	27.69%
Voters: 65. You may not vote on this poll

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03-02-2006, 06:12 PM	#101
Rock Chalk Cheeky Bastards Laus Deo Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Backside of the Internet Posts: 29,940 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	OK man. What the ** is going on? I just saw this thread and read the first page and the last page and decided no one knows really but the title says we did trade for him. I gather some kid "leaked" the story and his credibility came into question. Thn it was later reported by ESPN's own Pasta Belly (and, apparently Clayton) and now said kid's credibility has been restored? What the **, Pasta and Clayton were probably using the kid as the source! I dont know Abraham, so I dont want him. I know Peppers, I want him.

03-02-2006, 06:18 PM	#107
Clockwork Orange Persona Non Grata I seen him! Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,438	I just love that we've got two threads of five plus pages based on a rumor that's being reported by some kid with a web cam and PFT. The only thing that really should be discussed about this is which of those two has less credibility. I think it's a coin toss.

03-02-2006, 06:21 PM	#111
SouthStndJunkie Ring of Famer Shannon Says: Listen to The Junkman Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 15,248	Last 10 guys selected at #29 in the 1st Round: Marlin Jackson Michael Jenkins Nick Barnett Marc Columbo Ryan Pickett R.Jay Soward Dimitrius Underwood John Avery Chris Canty Jamain Stephens

03-02-2006, 06:21 PM	#112
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	Well, I'm lukewarm...I think T.O. would help us more, or maybe hurt us more. This CBA extention only muddies the water even more. I don't think Abraham is worth a first for several obvious reasons. Money, injuries, attitude and age. He's also light at 255, the same weight as V. Davis. He does get sacks when healthy, but the first thing a DE loses is speed with age. PASS unless it's a second. What a mess

03-02-2006, 06:21 PM	#113
SouthStndJunkie Ring of Famer Shannon Says: Listen to The Junkman Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 15,248	All 10 of those guys combined could not carry Abraham's jock. SSJ

03-02-2006, 06:22 PM	#114
Clockwork Orange Persona Non Grata I seen him! Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,438	People wonder why the Broncos can't fix the pass rush. Well, maybe because they haven't used a 1st rounder on a D-lineman since Trevor Pryce in 1996. Now they've got two first rounders at their disposal and a chance to beef up the D-line with two strong, young D-line prospects and they want to deal one of those picks away? You've got to be ****ing kidding me.

03-02-2006, 06:22 PM	#116
BlitzingDog #1 Chief Hater Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Iowa City, Iowa Posts: 1,001 Adopt-a-Bronco: Jack Williams	Brenston Bucker is probably gonna retire.

03-02-2006, 06:24 PM	#121
Atlas Draft Defense Early&Often Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 18,526	If this is true I'm in favor of it. Denver is close to being a SB team. They need an impact player. The 29th selection is not going to be an impact player. If this is true Denver just got a whole lot better.