Now that the whole world knows our ports are a security nightmare... - The Orange Mane

baja · 02-27-2006, 04:23 PM

What American city do you expect to wake up one morning to read does not exist anymore and why do you chose that city as a target?

alkemical · 02-27-2006, 04:24 PM

I'd say somewhere in texas.

baja · 02-27-2006, 04:26 PM

I think the terrorists will target San Diego because it is a border city with a port and has a huge military presence there also the nuclear sub bases are there as well.

GonzoLays · 02-27-2006, 04:27 PM

The United States of America

Land of somewhat free, home of the pussies.

baja · 02-27-2006, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GonzoLays

The United States of America

Land of somewhat free, home of the pussies.

I realize you are not a poster to be taken seriously but I really don't think we are a nation of pussies but it will be difficult to regain the lost freedoms and the desire needed will be found only through extreme pain.

alkemical · 02-28-2006, 08:17 AM

Actually he has a point.

Spider · 02-28-2006, 08:31 AM

What city ? I will go with the obvious New York city , for 2 reasons .......
1. disrupt commerce .....USA is already in deep debt , why not add to it ?
population ....... hit a large target of people at once .......
2. easier escape , you hit the west coast , you have Hawaii , guam to get past , not to mention a quick strike from alaska , from the east coast you can put the the Navy in a persuit position instead of an intercept ........ either choice doesnt bode well though , Sosis in the atlantic , will pretty much tell the Navy were you are going ......

DBruleU · 02-28-2006, 09:24 AM

how about casper, wyoming & LA.

Spider · 02-28-2006, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DBruleU

how about casper, wyoming & LA.

whats in Casper ? LA is too spread out ................

rbackfactory80 · 02-28-2006, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by §Pide®

What city ? I will go with the obvious New York city , for 2 reasons .......
1. disrupt commerce .....USA is already in deep debt , why not add to it ?
population ....... hit a large target of people at once .......
2. easier escape , you hit the west coast , you have Hawaii , guam to get past , not to mention a quick strike from alaska , from the east coast you can put the the Navy in a persuit position instead of an intercept ........ either choice doesnt bode well though , Sosis in the atlantic , will pretty much tell the Navy were you are going ......

God forbid, NYC gets everything. I think the next city that has the attack will have nothing to do with ports. I would say 1. Las Vegas and an outside chance at L.A.

RaiderH8r · 02-28-2006, 09:29 AM

I think New Orleans....oh wait.

Spider · 02-28-2006, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by rbackfactory80

God forbid, NYC gets everything. I think the next city that has the attack will have nothing to do with ports. I would say 1. Las Vegas and an outside chance at L.A.

NYC is probably one of the best citys in the world ...........

rbackfactory80 · 02-28-2006, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by §Pide®

NYC is probably one of the best citys in the world ...........

If anyone knows its me, born and raised. I am one of the very few native New Yorkers.

Spider · 02-28-2006, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by rbackfactory80

If anyone knows its me, born and raised. I am one of the very few native New Yorkers.

I used to make runs New york city lmost every week , hunts point in the Bronks , to grand union foods in Long Island ........made a few stops around 14 th and Washington , Just a great city , no matter where you go ....... Been to queens alot ..............

rbackfactory80 · 02-28-2006, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by §Pide®

I used to make runs New york city lmost every week , hunts point in the Bronks , to grand union foods in Long Island ........made a few stops around 14 th and Washington , Just a great city , no matter where you go ....... Been to queens alot ..............

I am actually from Manhattan, but have family in Queens, Staten Island, and also many relatives on Long Island which is nice in the summer.

Spider · 02-28-2006, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by rbackfactory80

I am actually from Manhattan, but have family in Queens, Staten Island, and also many relatives on Long Island which is nice in the summer.

right on ..................

Meck77 · 02-28-2006, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by rbackfactory80

. I would say 1. Las Vegas and an outside chance at L.A.

Yeah in the back of my mind I've been thinking Vegas would be an attractive target for those bastards. There is so much chaos on the strip that it seems AQ could easily do damage there (oklahoma city style) and nobody would know the difference.

Not to mention it would shake this country and the world to the core knowing that America's #1 tourist destination isn't safe.

They already rocked our financial district. I could see them going after a more personal one next.

Bronx33 · 02-28-2006, 10:10 AM

With the new deal (if it goes through) would increase the likely hood of a over seas container sized bomb ehhh?

Spider · 02-28-2006, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Bronx33

With the new deal (if it goes through) would increase the likely hood of a over seas container sized bomb ehhh?

in my opinion yes ..............

Bronx33 · 02-28-2006, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by §Pide®

in my opinion yes ..............

How they can even concider adding that variable to homeland security blows me away.

TheDave · 02-28-2006, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Bronx33

With the new deal (if it goes through) would increase the likely hood of a over seas container sized bomb ehhh?

lets hope they don't try and use the entire container... that size Denver becomes ocean front property

TailgateNut · 02-28-2006, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Bronx33

With the new deal (if it goes through) would increase the likely hood of a over seas container sized bomb ehhh?

I think the "new deal" may increase the likelyhood of Operator involvement, but the likelyhood of an actual occurance outside of the operators control area will not increase nor decrease unless the current security policies are addressed.

Spider · 02-28-2006, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Bronx33

How they can even concider adding that variable to homeland security blows me away.

i think it is money driven , and when it comes to these global corperations and our safty .......... we lose out..............

Bronx33 · 02-28-2006, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by §Pide®

i think it is money driven , and when it comes to these global corperations and our safty .......... we lose out..............

It's always about money, pretty fricken sad whom ever is on this payroll.

TheDave · 02-28-2006, 10:29 AM

This one is completely money driven. A good friend of mine said that his company APL (American Presidents Line) also bid on this contract. If i remember right their bid was between 5.2 and 5.4 billion. Being that his company is singapore owned he was uncomfortable with them running it also.

I asked him if he felt this was a serious risk... he told me some of the basics of how port security is run and concluded with something to the effect that this was suicide. Something to keep in mind this guy is one of my old republican friends... If their is an elephant by their name thats who gets his vote.

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02-27-2006, 04:23 PM	#1
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,903 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	Now that the whole world knows our ports are a security nightmare... What American city do you expect to wake up one morning to read does not exist anymore and why do you chose that city as a target?

02-27-2006, 04:24 PM	#2
alkemical Guerrilla Ontologist rorrim\|mirror Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Future Posts: 42,696 Adopt-a-Bronco: Prima Materia	I'd say somewhere in texas.

02-27-2006, 04:26 PM	#3
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,903 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	I think the terrorists will target San Diego because it is a border city with a port and has a huge military presence there also the nuclear sub bases are there as well.

02-27-2006, 04:27 PM	#4
GonzoLays Five Tool Poster Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 5,650 Adopt-a-Bronco: #3 DJ	The United States of America Land of somewhat free, home of the pussies.

02-28-2006, 08:17 AM	#6
alkemical Guerrilla Ontologist rorrim\|mirror Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Future Posts: 42,696 Adopt-a-Bronco: Prima Materia	Actually he has a point.

02-28-2006, 08:31 AM	#7
Spider Mr Diplomacy I survived Tebow Mania at the Mane Join Date: May 2001 Location: Elway was just an arm =MacGruder Posts: 84,438 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	What city ? I will go with the obvious New York city , for 2 reasons ....... 1. disrupt commerce .....USA is already in deep debt , why not add to it ? population ....... hit a large target of people at once ....... 2. easier escape , you hit the west coast , you have Hawaii , guam to get past , not to mention a quick strike from alaska , from the east coast you can put the the Navy in a persuit position instead of an intercept ........ either choice doesnt bode well though , Sosis in the atlantic , will pretty much tell the Navy were you are going ......

02-28-2006, 09:24 AM	#8
DBruleU Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Boulder, the bastion of communism. Posts: 3,663	how about casper, wyoming & LA.

02-28-2006, 09:29 AM	#11
RaiderH8r In The Bag Don't worry. Nobody's listening. Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Meth Alley Posts: 9,923 Adopt-a-Bronco: MethWolfe	I think New Orleans....oh wait.

02-28-2006, 10:10 AM	#18
Bronx33 lets go partner Rumpson Rocks Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lakewood,Colo Posts: 41,221 Adopt-a-Bronco: Woodyard	With the new deal (if it goes through) would increase the likely hood of a over seas container sized bomb ehhh?

02-28-2006, 10:29 AM	#25
TheDave Sauced... Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 15,120	This one is completely money driven. A good friend of mine said that his company APL (American Presidents Line) also bid on this contract. If i remember right their bid was between 5.2 and 5.4 billion. Being that his company is singapore owned he was uncomfortable with them running it also. I asked him if he felt this was a serious risk... he told me some of the basics of how port security is run and concluded with something to the effect that this was suicide. Something to keep in mind this guy is one of my old republican friends... If their is an elephant by their name thats who gets his vote.