Raiders: Collins decision still pending - The Orange Mane

HEAV · 02-14-2006, 09:51 PM

Josh Dubow, of the Associated Press, reports the Oakland Raiders still have a decision to make regarding QB Kerry Collins. The Raiders still have to decide whether to stick with Collins, who will count $12.9 million against the salary cap next season. "He is an exciting quarterback," head coach Art Shell said. "I think he has a chance to be great for us. But those issues will be addressed down the road."
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He is an exciting quarterback

Ya really exciting when he's under a heavy rush!

Clockwork Orange · 02-14-2006, 09:52 PM

That's one hell of a cap number he's got there. He'll restructure or he'll be gone.

ludo21 · 02-14-2006, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

That's one hell of a cap number he's got there. He'll restructure or he'll be gone.

Many fans seem to want him gone, so maybe they will listen to them and draft domeone.

Or maybe Walter could be the future?

12th man · 02-14-2006, 10:08 PM

I think they get rid of him. That too big of a cap number, and also he's getting up there in age, and oh yeah, he's not that good. I think they draft a new qb. They have the sixth pick, and I don't know about you but for some reason I could see Matt Leinhart there. I think he would like it there cause he could stay in cali and he'll have Randy moss. Just look at the draft order. 1.texans obviously will get bush, 2. New orleans, It depends what they do with Brooks, they have the best shot of landind Leinhart, but if they don't get him the Rayturds will. 3. Titans have norm chow but Mcnair has mentored Vince Young. Vince seems like a perfect fit there. first they get moon, then mcnair then young. all very athletic and good arms. 4. Jets they probably will stay with Pennington and if they don't they probably want a rb cause Martin is up there and now starting to get injuries, and is not that productive as he once was. 5. green bay has rogers if brett calls it quite. 6. is the raiders. So I say if New orleans dosn't get leinhart, wich wouldnt suprise me, raiders have the best shot. as I said before, I don't know why, but I can see Leinhart as a Raider.

Raider Bill · 02-14-2006, 10:32 PM

This is one of those Win/Win deals. Almost that entire amount comes right off the cap with very little bonus acceleration.

As far as QB, who knows? Andrew Walter was supposedly Al's hand picked QB of the future. I suspect we'll land a Kitna type as a bridge to Walter.

I dont see us getting one of the QB's, we're rumored to be looking hard at AJ Hawk from one thing I read.

2KBack · 02-14-2006, 10:39 PM

I thought I heard somewhere that Baltimore might be interested in him, Jim Fassell always brought out the best in Collins.

Bob's your Information Minister · 02-14-2006, 10:50 PM

Please keep Kerry!

Conklin · 02-14-2006, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister

Please keep Kerry!

please keep trINT

Bob's your Information Minister · 02-14-2006, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Conklin

please keep trINT

You're a fool. The minute Trent retires, the rest of the AFC West is better off and the Chiefs are much, much worse.

watermock · 02-15-2006, 03:02 AM

A 13 million dollar cap number for this retread? Did they think they signed Manning?

fontaine · 02-15-2006, 05:40 AM

I really hope the raiders don't get leinhart and the Saints grab him.

I'm probably among the minority but I think that Collins is a pretty good QB as long as he gets good protection from the OL. The raiders seemed to have a few problems there.

Billy Clyde Puckett · 02-15-2006, 06:21 AM

It's Collins or Tui. either way it is a joke.

Raider Bill · 02-15-2006, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by watermock

A 13 million dollar cap number for this retread? Did they think they signed Manning?

It's the way they structured his deal. The idea was to rent him for 2 years, the final years are kinda bogus. Kinda like the way Derrick Gibson is on the books for a 10 million dollar base salary this season.Those 2 players represent 22 million of our 30 million overage, and are never going to see that money.

Raider Bill · 02-15-2006, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Guy

It's Collins or Tui. either way it is a joke.

It's either Collins (with a restructure), Walter, or a veteran "Kitna Type" brought in as a bridge to Walter. I really dont see Tuiasapsopo fitting into their plans.

02-14-2006, 09:51 PM	#1
HEAV Ring of Famer It's about the Team Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Ville Posts: 12,077 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brian Dawkins	Raiders: Collins decision still pending Josh Dubow, of the Associated Press, reports the Oakland Raiders still have a decision to make regarding QB Kerry Collins. The Raiders still have to decide whether to stick with Collins, who will count $12.9 million against the salary cap next season. "He is an exciting quarterback," head coach Art Shell said. "I think he has a chance to be great for us. But those issues will be addressed down the road." ---------- He is an exciting quarterback Ya really exciting when he's under a heavy rush!

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02-14-2006, 09:52 PM	#2
Clockwork Orange Persona Non Grata I seen him! Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,438	That's one hell of a cap number he's got there. He'll restructure or he'll be gone.

02-14-2006, 10:08 PM	#4
12th man Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Trinidad Colorado Posts: 1,634	I think they get rid of him. That too big of a cap number, and also he's getting up there in age, and oh yeah, he's not that good. I think they draft a new qb. They have the sixth pick, and I don't know about you but for some reason I could see Matt Leinhart there. I think he would like it there cause he could stay in cali and he'll have Randy moss. Just look at the draft order. 1.texans obviously will get bush, 2. New orleans, It depends what they do with Brooks, they have the best shot of landind Leinhart, but if they don't get him the Rayturds will. 3. Titans have norm chow but Mcnair has mentored Vince Young. Vince seems like a perfect fit there. first they get moon, then mcnair then young. all very athletic and good arms. 4. Jets they probably will stay with Pennington and if they don't they probably want a rb cause Martin is up there and now starting to get injuries, and is not that productive as he once was. 5. green bay has rogers if brett calls it quite. 6. is the raiders. So I say if New orleans dosn't get leinhart, wich wouldnt suprise me, raiders have the best shot. as I said before, I don't know why, but I can see Leinhart as a Raider.

02-14-2006, 10:32 PM	#5
Raider Bill ........ Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Southern New Joisey Posts: 4,202	This is one of those Win/Win deals. Almost that entire amount comes right off the cap with very little bonus acceleration. As far as QB, who knows? Andrew Walter was supposedly Al's hand picked QB of the future. I suspect we'll land a Kitna type as a bridge to Walter. I dont see us getting one of the QB's, we're rumored to be looking hard at AJ Hawk from one thing I read.

02-14-2006, 10:39 PM	#6
2KBack Rumblin' Bumblin' Cake is delicious Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wash DC Posts: 7,283	I thought I heard somewhere that Baltimore might be interested in him, Jim Fassell always brought out the best in Collins.

02-14-2006, 10:50 PM	#7
Bob's your Information Minister Chiefs > Broncos Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 25,931 Adopt-a-Bronco: CHRIS KUPER!!!	Please keep Kerry!

02-15-2006, 03:02 AM	#10
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	A 13 million dollar cap number for this retread? Did they think they signed Manning?

02-15-2006, 05:40 AM	#11
fontaine Ring of Famer Go John Manning! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,435	I really hope the raiders don't get leinhart and the Saints grab him. I'm probably among the minority but I think that Collins is a pretty good QB as long as he gets good protection from the OL. The raiders seemed to have a few problems there.

02-15-2006, 06:21 AM	#12
Billy Clyde Puckett Billy=Semi Tough Big Guy Looking down on KC, SD and Oakland Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: between 5,000 and 10,000 feet elevation Posts: 12,665 Adopt-a-Bronco: John Elway	It's Collins or Tui. either way it is a joke.