THIS is what a tough drug policy looks like - The Orange Mane

enjolras · 02-14-2006, 08:35 AM

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11338508/

Two australians sentenced to death by firing squad for drug trafficing in indonesia.

I thought our drug laws where insane... sheesh

Old Dude · 02-14-2006, 08:38 AM

Around 20 foreigners, most of them Africans, are on death row in Indonesia for drug offences. The latest foreigners shot by firing squad for drug offences were two Thais in October 2004.

Spider · 02-14-2006, 08:40 AM

Wyoming's zero tolerency drug policy slogan .
This is your ásshole before jail o
This is your ásshole after jailo

REB · 02-14-2006, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by §Pide®

Wyoming's zero tolerency drug policy slogan .
This is your ásshole before jail o
This is your ásshole after jailo

1-2-3 !!!!!!!

Garcia Bronco · 02-14-2006, 09:35 AM

I think it's funny that our "reform" system is being advertised that one could be sodmized. Awesome.

the drug laws in this country are way out of wack with regard to "controlled" substances.

Spider · 02-14-2006, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

I think it's funny that our "reform" system is being advertised that one could be sodmized. Awesome.

the drug laws in this country are way out of wack with regard to "controlled" substances.

I know it works for me , I dont want to be sodmized , but then I dont know what skeletons you have in your closet ......

Garcia Bronco · 02-14-2006, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by §Pide®

I know it works for me , I dont want to be sodmized , but then I dont know what skeletons you have in your closet ......

I'm sayin that if it ever got to the point that I'm going to prison...well lets just say...I'm taking as many of whoever with me straight to hell, because there is no way I'm ever going to prison.

Spider · 02-14-2006, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

I'm sayin that if it ever got to the point that I'm going to prison...well lets just say...I'm taking as many of whoever with me straight to hell, because there is no way I'm ever going to prison.

REB · 02-14-2006, 10:16 AM

I'm with you guys. They would never put me in prison. )

1-2-3 !!!!!!!

Spider · 02-14-2006, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by REB

I'm with you guys. They would never put me in prison. )

1-2-3 !!!!!!!

Jesterhole · 02-14-2006, 11:47 AM

Just sad. The death penalty? Are you kidding me?

You can be against drugs all you want, but this is way out of bounds. I wonder if the Australian government will intervene?

If it were Americans, would you want us to step in? I think I would...

Spider · 02-14-2006, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesterhole

Just sad. The death penalty? Are you kidding me?

You can be against drugs all you want, but this is way out of bounds. I wonder if the Australian government will intervene?

If it were Americans, would you want us to step in? I think I would...

I would want the death penalty instead of the oo thing

REB · 02-14-2006, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by §Pide®

I would want the death penalty instead of the oo thing

Really. Fry my azz just don't throw me in a cell with some bareback boppin' bubba

enjolras · 02-14-2006, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesterhole

Just sad. The death penalty? Are you kidding me?

You can be against drugs all you want, but this is way out of bounds. I wonder if the Australian government will intervene?

If it were Americans, would you want us to step in? I think I would...

I agree...

But then again, these guys knew the rules going in. In MY country I would fight the death penalty for this without a doubt. But if your gonna smuggle drugs, you really should google for the penalties before hand.

loborugger · 02-14-2006, 08:08 PM

Whats missing from this thread is this...

Singapore has a death penalty for drug trafficking. Indonesia has death penalty for drug trafficking. Other countries have these rules. Its only in the Western World (at least so far) where a criminal is seen as the victim.

These are not new rules. These people pull these stunts knowing this could happen. I saw earlier this year where a Vietnamese Australian was executed in Singapore for smuggling about a lb of heroin. The Aussie Gov't tried to save the guy, but to no avail. I doubt either one of these countries will bow to pressure. Neither wants to look weak in relation to a western society.

Sorta like the old saying, "buyer beware."

Unfortunately, Indonesia is pretty corrupt. One might figure they could bribe there way outta tight spot.

Singapore, not so much.

For those who blast Singapore (I have no experience with Indonesia) as draconian, I will say this. I have been there. People are civil. People feel secure in their houses, property, etc. I saw women walking down the street at midnite (not street walkers, women walking home from work) by themselves. There was no problem for them. People understand there are severe penalties for breaking the law.

You might be able to criticize Indonesia for being unfair in its enforcement... one gets a firing squad while another bribes his way to freedom. But, its their country. You dont wanna die... dont buy and sell heroin in their country. Seems pretty simple to me.

Funny, lotsa folks on here preach tolerance for others points of view... until the point of view conflicts with their own.

As for Americans there... I say leave em to their fate. Just like Clinton shouldnt have stepped in when that dip$hit kid was spray painting cars, we should let them go. You act like an a$$ in someone else's country, you should pay their price. You dont go to your neighbor's house and crap on his living room floor (or at least most of us dont), you dont go to your neighbor's country & make a mess. And lets be honest here.. those Aussies werent there for Mai Tais and Yathzee... they were there to run drugs.

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02-14-2006, 08:38 AM	#2
Old Dude Host Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: As if I'd tell you crazies! Posts: 14,158	Around 20 foreigners, most of them Africans, are on death row in Indonesia for drug offences. The latest foreigners shot by firing squad for drug offences were two Thais in October 2004.

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Spider Mr Diplomacy I survived Tebow Mania at the Mane Join Date: May 2001 Location: Elway was just an arm =MacGruder Posts: 84,438 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Wyoming's zero tolerency drug policy slogan . This is your ásshole before jail o This is your ásshole after jailo

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Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,991 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	I think it's funny that our "reform" system is being advertised that one could be sodmized. Awesome. the drug laws in this country are way out of wack with regard to "controlled" substances.

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REB LP.org/L4L.org "This one's for John!" 3:16 Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: 'I guess he'd rather be in Colorado' Posts: 8,723	I'm with you guys. They would never put me in prison. ) 1-2-3 !!!!!!!

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Jesterhole Ring of Famer Ridin' the McFailboat... Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 2,036	Just sad. The death penalty? Are you kidding me? You can be against drugs all you want, but this is way out of bounds. I wonder if the Australian government will intervene? If it were Americans, would you want us to step in? I think I would...

02-14-2006, 08:08 PM	#15
loborugger lost in the ether Did we finally get a FB??? Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The 'cuse Posts: 5,783 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Hillis	Whats missing from this thread is this... Singapore has a death penalty for drug trafficking. Indonesia has death penalty for drug trafficking. Other countries have these rules. Its only in the Western World (at least so far) where a criminal is seen as the victim. These are not new rules. These people pull these stunts knowing this could happen. I saw earlier this year where a Vietnamese Australian was executed in Singapore for smuggling about a lb of heroin. The Aussie Gov't tried to save the guy, but to no avail. I doubt either one of these countries will bow to pressure. Neither wants to look weak in relation to a western society. Sorta like the old saying, "buyer beware." Unfortunately, Indonesia is pretty corrupt. One might figure they could bribe there way outta tight spot. Singapore, not so much. For those who blast Singapore (I have no experience with Indonesia) as draconian, I will say this. I have been there. People are civil. People feel secure in their houses, property, etc. I saw women walking down the street at midnite (not street walkers, women walking home from work) by themselves. There was no problem for them. People understand there are severe penalties for breaking the law. You might be able to criticize Indonesia for being unfair in its enforcement... one gets a firing squad while another bribes his way to freedom. But, its their country. You dont wanna die... dont buy and sell heroin in their country. Seems pretty simple to me. Funny, lotsa folks on here preach tolerance for others points of view... until the point of view conflicts with their own. As for Americans there... I say leave em to their fate. Just like Clinton shouldnt have stepped in when that dip$hit kid was spray painting cars, we should let them go. You act like an a$$ in someone else's country, you should pay their price. You dont go to your neighbor's house and crap on his living room floor (or at least most of us dont), you dont go to your neighbor's country & make a mess. And lets be honest here.. those Aussies werent there for Mai Tais and Yathzee... they were there to run drugs.