Back judge in the Super Bowl game, is a Pittsburgh native - The Orange Mane

HEAV · 02-06-2006, 05:00 PM

Bob Waggoner, who served as the back judge in the Super Bowl game, is a Pittsburgh native and played linebacker at Juniata College from 1969 through 1972.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06037/650926.stm

Sassy · 02-06-2006, 05:01 PM

Why is that not shocking?

ludo21 · 02-06-2006, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy

Why is that not shocking?

I mean it was probably the right call, but EXTREMELY ticky tacky especially when both guys are fighting for position.

Dagmar · 02-06-2006, 05:03 PM

I for one am shocked.

24champ · 02-06-2006, 05:04 PM

the steelers defensive back started yelling at him and then after that he threw the flag.

Bronx33 · 02-06-2006, 05:12 PM

Why on gods green eath would the NFL put that factor in the game?? Ohhhhhhh ahhhhhhh never mind.

Elway 4 Life · 02-06-2006, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 24champbailey

the steelers defensive back started yelling at him and then after that he threw the flag.

He reached for it right away justed missed grabbing it. I tivo'd it and watched it repeatedly because I thought the same thing. He reached for it right away.

orinjkrush · 02-06-2006, 05:13 PM

so of the screwed up calls...which were called by the BJ?

24champ · 02-06-2006, 05:15 PM

Lets not forget that the super bowl head referee only overturned 23% of the challenges issued this season. Its all coming together.......

24champ · 02-06-2006, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Elway 4 Life

He reached for it right away justed missed grabbing it. I tivo'd it and watched it repeatedly because I thought the same thing. He reached for it right away.

I wish I had tivo.

Elway 4 Life · 02-06-2006, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 24champbailey

I wish I had tivo.

I also replayed the ben TD about 18 times. He did not score. No frickin way.

watermock · 02-06-2006, 05:25 PM

it's amazing that something could be so clear, yet not overturned.

The head is the football now? Where is my pellet gun?

Bronx33 · 02-06-2006, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Elway 4 Life

I also replayed the ben TD about 18 times. He did not score. No frickin way.

That was a great stop BTW.

Northman · 02-06-2006, 05:54 PM

Peter King was telling Espn today that it was the right call. Evidently the officials were instructed to call that on both sides of the ball. This is probably why Denver got that call in the Pats game as well.

Bronco_Beerslug · 02-06-2006, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Elway 4 Life

I also replayed the ben TD about 18 times. He did not score. No frickin way.

And I seen that one as him scoring (ball touching plane about 2.5 ft above the ground).

Northman · 02-06-2006, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

And I seen that one as him scoring (ball touching plane about 2.5 ft above the ground).

Thats what a lot of people dont want to discuss. You dont have to break the plane of the goaline just on the ground. People also forget that the ruling on the field was a TD and they had to have conclusive evidence that he never crossed the plane of the goaline. Essentially the same thing happened with Champ when he got hit by Watson on the INT return. it was initially called out of bounds at the one so it was up to replay to disprove that which it couldnt. Had the call been a Touchback chances are the Pats would of gotten the ball as it was really inconclusive.

ludo21 · 02-06-2006, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

And I seen that one as him scoring (ball touching plane about 2.5 ft above the ground).

people see different on that, thats for sure

I just wish the ref came out and said , "we dont have comclusive evidence". To call it a TD like he did just isnt right becasue it was impossible to see where the ball was imo.

watermock · 02-06-2006, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

And I seen that one as him scoring (ball touching plane about 2.5 ft above the ground).

All they ever show is a back angle that scews the actual spot. it's over, but when you get the front angle that shows the ball from the proper perspective, it's obvious.

He didn't reach the ball out for some reason I can't understand. The ball was on his hip and wound up about 4 inches short. Who cares.

The Big E · 02-06-2006, 06:39 PM

This was from a fan on ESPN:

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I'd have to say the perfect image from Super Bowl XL was the ref running in to spot the ball on Big Ben's sneak at the goal line, then inexplicably calling it a touchdown halfway there, after Ben had scooted the ball over the line. I didn't think NFL refs actually fell for that.
JT (Cleveland)

That was the problem I had with it as well. The ref came running in with ONE arm in the air, which indicates he's going to spot the ball. Then he suddenly changed his mind and called TD.

Tombstone RJ · 02-06-2006, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ludo21

people see different on that, thats for sure

I just wish the ref came out and said , "we dont have comclusive evidence". To call it a TD like he did just isnt right becasue it was impossible to see where the ball was imo.

Actually, he should of just said "There is not enough evidence to overturn the call. The play stands as called." He should have never said anything about a TD or touchdown.

Boogerboots · 02-06-2006, 08:15 PM

I'm just waiting to see this on NFL network...

Might happen sooner than later.

HEAV · 02-06-2006, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Big E

This was from a fan on ESPN:

That was the problem I had with it as well. The ref came running in with ONE arm in the air, which indicates he's going to spot the ball. Then he suddenly changed his mind and called TD.

That's what set me off. The sideline judge comes running in indicating the spot at the inch line. The changes his mind, after Ben move the ball, and calls TD.

The NFL can try and deflect all they want. This years playoff officiating was crap. The NFL needs to make these guys acountable (like the NCAA did with the refs that called the tech foul on the Florida state hoops player) or use technology to determine TD's more clearly.

Tennis use's technology to determine if the ball is in or out. Mainly due to poor official's changing the game.

I don't care what sport it is. When the officials get more camera time and are involved in the game more it ruins the sport.

Jason in LA · 02-07-2006, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Anubis

Thats what a lot of people dont want to discuss. You dont have to break the plane of the goaline just on the ground. People also forget that the ruling on the field was a TD and they had to have conclusive evidence that he never crossed the plane of the goaline. Essentially the same thing happened with Champ when he got hit by Watson on the INT return. it was initially called out of bounds at the one so it was up to replay to disprove that which it couldnt. Had the call been a Touchback chances are the Pats would of gotten the ball as it was really inconclusive.

The ruling on the field was 4th down, then the buzzer in the refs pocket went off and he put his other hand up for the TD. I swear, that's what happened

Jason in LA · 02-07-2006, 08:07 AM

The refs screwed the Seahawks over, but not on that PI call. Would the WR have to knock the guy down for it to be a right call? The guy puts his hand dead in the DB's chest, then fully extends his arm. How is that not a push off? If that's not a push off, then there is no such thing as a push off, and offensive PI should never be called.

The WR can't do that, especially right in front of the ref.

-Slap- · 02-07-2006, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by HEAV

The NFL can try and deflect all they want. This years playoff officiating was crap. The NFL needs to make these guys acountable (like the NCAA did with the refs that called the tech foul on the Florida state hoops player) or use technology to determine TD's more clearly.

The NCAA only acted because they're tired of all the whining about Duke from the other ACC coaches.

02-06-2006, 05:00 PM	#1
HEAV Ring of Famer It's about the Team Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Ville Posts: 12,077 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brian Dawkins	Back judge in the Super Bowl game, is a Pittsburgh native Bob Waggoner, who served as the back judge in the Super Bowl game, is a Pittsburgh native and played linebacker at Juniata College from 1969 through 1972. http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06037/650926.stm

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02-06-2006, 05:01 PM	#2
Sassy Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Location: ND Posts: 37,952 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eddie Royal	Why is that not shocking?

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Dagmar ...there ain't no devil ..there's just God when he's drunk. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Morrison Posts: 17,132 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tim Tebow	I for one am shocked.

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24champ Livin' the dream! Methwolfe Alliance Captain Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 18,551 Adopt-a-Bronco: DomCasual	the steelers defensive back started yelling at him and then after that he threw the flag.

02-06-2006, 05:12 PM	#6
Bronx33 lets go partner Rumpson Rocks Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lakewood,Colo Posts: 41,221 Adopt-a-Bronco: Woodyard	Why on gods green eath would the NFL put that factor in the game?? Ohhhhhhh ahhhhhhh never mind.

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orinjkrush ... Prospects for the future... Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DistrictOfCorruption Posts: 4,914 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ben Garland	so of the screwed up calls...which were called by the BJ?

02-06-2006, 05:15 PM	#9
24champ Livin' the dream! Methwolfe Alliance Captain Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 18,551 Adopt-a-Bronco: DomCasual	Lets not forget that the super bowl head referee only overturned 23% of the challenges issued this season. Its all coming together.......

02-06-2006, 05:25 PM	#12
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	it's amazing that something could be so clear, yet not overturned. The head is the football now? Where is my pellet gun?

02-06-2006, 05:54 PM	#14
Northman The Enigma Prognosis Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Maryland Posts: 17,925 Adopt-a-Bronco: Bryci	Peter King was telling Espn today that it was the right call. Evidently the officials were instructed to call that on both sides of the ball. This is probably why Denver got that call in the Pats game as well.

02-06-2006, 08:15 PM	#21
Boogerboots Scrip Club Rebellion The new golden rule Join Date: May 2003 Location: Rideau Lakes, Ontario Posts: 1,084 Adopt-a-Bronco: Larry Canada	I'm just waiting to see this on NFL network... Might happen sooner than later.

02-07-2006, 08:07 AM	#24
Jason in LA Gimmie that rep fool! Speaking of Butts & Boob Mojo Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: LA Posts: 12,254	The refs screwed the Seahawks over, but not on that PI call. Would the WR have to knock the guy down for it to be a right call? The guy puts his hand dead in the DB's chest, then fully extends his arm. How is that not a push off? If that's not a push off, then there is no such thing as a push off, and offensive PI should never be called. The WR can't do that, especially right in front of the ref.