"Official" Accountability - The Orange Mane

RaiderH8r · 02-06-2006, 10:24 AM

Considering the general level of disgust and dismay over the officiating this season and exemplified in yesterday's debaucle, should NFL officials be made more available for public scrutiny? The only consistency in NFL officiating this season was that it was consistantly bad. Replay didn't fix it, should the NFL publicize the official's grading from week to week? Should officials be fined for blatantly poor calls? Should officials have to justify their calls to the fans and media? Job security in the NFL is tenuous for players, coaches, and management. Even mediocre performances will get a spot in the unemployment line, but officials enjoy a reprieve from such pressures.

Thoughts? Gripes? How would it be done?

Rock Chalk · 02-06-2006, 11:00 AM

Im just waiting for Tags to come out and say it.

"Yeah, we fixed ****. What are you gonna do about it?"

bronco militia · 02-06-2006, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Alec

Im just waiting for Tags to come out and say it.

"Yeah, we fixed ****. What are you gonna do about it?"

Vegas would go supernova....

RaiderH8r · 02-06-2006, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco militia

Vegas would go supernova....

He's f***ing w/Vegas to leverage them into a deal to get 30% of the book for the NFL.

Bronx33 · 02-06-2006, 11:11 AM

Fine them for bad calls? it kinda evens out when they are being payed for bad calls right now.

bronco militia · 02-06-2006, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by RaiderH8r

He's f***ing w/Vegas to leverage them into a deal to get 30% of the book for the NFL.

lol....Vegas already gives the NFL free money.

Smiling Assassin27 · 02-06-2006, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by RaiderH8r

Considering the general level of disgust and dismay over the officiating this season and exemplified in yesterday's debaucle, should NFL officials be made more available for public scrutiny? The only consistency in NFL officiating this season was that it was consistantly bad. Replay didn't fix it, should the NFL publicize the official's grading from week to week? Should officials be fined for blatantly poor calls? Should officials have to justify their calls to the fans and media? Job security in the NFL is tenuous for players, coaches, and management. Even mediocre performances will get a spot in the unemployment line, but officials enjoy a reprieve from such pressures.

Thoughts? Gripes? How would it be done?

It definitely should involve cattle prods and public executions...

bendog · 02-06-2006, 11:13 AM

If we'd publically have some big fat eunich chop off some hands at halftime, these guys might think twice about tossing bogus flags.

Arkansas Bronco · 02-06-2006, 11:15 AM

Actualy they should make bieng an official a full time job. In the off season studying taking test maybey go to traing camps and ref the scrims. There has got to be a way to improve it and in my oppinion the only way to do that is to keep em on the clock year around.

Bronco_Beerslug · 02-06-2006, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Arkansas_Bronco

Actualy they should make bieng an official a full time job. In the off season studying taking test maybey go to traing camps and ref the scrims. There has got to be a way to improve it and in my oppinion the only way to do that is to keep em on the clock year around.

Exactly right. I've been calling for full-time officials since the 80s.

The Big E · 02-06-2006, 11:26 AM

Full time officials would make the most sense, especially considering this is a multi-billion dollar business. I don't know what else could really be done. The horrible officiating in the Super Bowl was a fitting end to the season.

bronco militia · 02-06-2006, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by The Big E

Full time officials would make the most sense, especially considering this is a multi-billion dollar business. I don't know what else could really be done. The horrible officiating in the Super Bowl was a fitting end to the season.

they'd just be fulltime bad refs....go get some new refs

ludo21 · 02-06-2006, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by The Big E

Full time officials would make the most sense, especially considering this is a multi-billion dollar business. I don't know what else could really be done. The horrible officiating in the Super Bowl was a fitting end to the season.

i agree, and getting paid by how they ref, they should be held accountable. Everyone else who has a job is, its getting really bad and its ruining some good games.

The Big E · 02-06-2006, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ludo21

i agree, and getting paid by how they ref, they should be held accountable. Everyone else who has a job is, its getting really bad and its ruining some good games.

It is harder to hold a ref accountable if he's really an insurance agent, as opposed to a full-time employee.

Rock Chalk · 02-06-2006, 12:00 PM

The problem isn't the refs.

There are too many god damn rules.

If you are a p***Y, you shouldnt play in the NFL and there should not be rules to protect pussies.

The Big E · 02-06-2006, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Alec

The problem isn't the refs.

There are too many god damn rules.

If you are a p***Y, you shouldnt play in the NFL and there should not be rules to protect pussies.

TRUE.

Let 'em take off their skirts and play already!!!!!!!!!!

ludo21 · 02-06-2006, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Alec

The problem isn't the refs.

There are too many god damn rules.

If you are a p***Y, you shouldnt play in the NFL and there should not be rules to protect pussies.

They threw a flag on Bowlware for finishing a play, smartly they picked it up because it was obvious it was the wrong call.

watermock · 02-06-2006, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco militia

they'd just be fulltime bad refs....go get some new refs

I was thinking the same thing. A mule working half the year is still a stupid mule.

There are two problems here. There simply aren't the number of games as the NBA, Baseball and Hockey.
Second, the NFL seems to think it's Congress...every year they enhance a rule...I honestly believe the refs are overwhelmed. I've adjusted my stance from "fixed" to "incompetent and overwhelmed". I also think Pitt came in as the media darlings. The only reason I have changed my mind was that rediculous "down by contact" reprieve when Big Ben was brushed by a pinkie. He went down on purpose because he had the first. IMO, it was a fumble. If that's down by contact I could of been in the NFL.

watermock · 02-06-2006, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Alec

The problem isn't the refs.

There are too many god damn rules.

If you are a p***Y, you shouldnt play in the NFL and there should not be rules to protect pussies.

Agreed! See my above post. It's starting to totally decide games.

I think your going to see, or it's allready happening, that coaches will have to gameplan for the ref...whether he lets the boys play or is trigger happy with the hankie and wants a piece of the action.

Man...let em' play for christ sakes. This is getting absurd....the different crews are so damn inconsistent.

Kaylore · 02-06-2006, 12:47 PM

The officiating has been bad., but to say it's because there are too many rules is ridiculous. The officiating has been bad because they've been calling things that have been around forever differently.

Pass interference is called almost randomly and it varies from game to game and even play to play. Holding is another one that can be called at any time to screw a team whenever the official feels like it. It used to be that if the the ball hits a receivers hands and a safety was anywhere near him, he could lay him out. Now you practically have to ask permission to tackle a receiver.

The new rules like horse-collar and whatnot aren't the problem. We never see that one called anymore. It's how they're calling the old ones.

bendog · 02-06-2006, 01:54 PM

A scarcity of black refs is the problem, imo. In fact I only recall seeing one black ref in all the years I watched the nfl (-:

Den Smith 49 · 02-06-2006, 03:52 PM

Full time officials have to happen. It's a joke that an industry that makes millions of dollars, only keeps their officials around for the season.

What is this high school football?

orinjkrush · 02-06-2006, 05:59 PM

officiating in the nfl is a JOKE. and it needs attention. make 'em all booth officials for all i care, but call the frickin game right.

Northman · 02-06-2006, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Arkansas_Bronco

Actualy they should make bieng an official a full time job. In the off season studying taking test maybey go to traing camps and ref the scrims. There has got to be a way to improve it and in my oppinion the only way to do that is to keep em on the clock year around.

Agreed.

Bronco Bob · 02-06-2006, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Arkansas_Bronco

Actualy they should make bieng an official a full time job. In the off season studying taking test maybey go to traing camps and ref the scrims. There has got to be a way to improve it and in my oppinion the only way to do that is to keep em on the clock year around.

Yeah, like baseball umpires never make bad calls because they are full time employees.
I don't see how making football refs fulltime employees is the
magic cure-all. They'd just form a union and it would be even harder to
get rid of the ones who screw up. And what would they do during the
off-season. A person can only study rules and watch films so much.

02-06-2006, 10:24 AM	#1
RaiderH8r In The Bag Don't worry. Nobody's listening. Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Meth Alley Posts: 9,920 Adopt-a-Bronco: MethWolfe	"Official" Accountability Considering the general level of disgust and dismay over the officiating this season and exemplified in yesterday's debaucle, should NFL officials be made more available for public scrutiny? The only consistency in NFL officiating this season was that it was consistantly bad. Replay didn't fix it, should the NFL publicize the official's grading from week to week? Should officials be fined for blatantly poor calls? Should officials have to justify their calls to the fans and media? Job security in the NFL is tenuous for players, coaches, and management. Even mediocre performances will get a spot in the unemployment line, but officials enjoy a reprieve from such pressures. Thoughts? Gripes? How would it be done?

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02-06-2006, 11:00 AM	#2
Rock Chalk Cheeky Bastards Laus Deo Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Backside of the Internet Posts: 29,940 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	Im just waiting for Tags to come out and say it. "Yeah, we fixed ****. What are you gonna do about it?"

02-06-2006, 11:11 AM	#5
Bronx33 lets go partner Rumpson Rocks Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lakewood,Colo Posts: 41,221 Adopt-a-Bronco: Woodyard	Fine them for bad calls? it kinda evens out when they are being payed for bad calls right now.

02-06-2006, 11:13 AM	#8
bendog Marginally Continent David Bowens, he'd be an upgrade Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Folsom Prison Posts: 19,935 Adopt-a-Bronco: David Bowens	If we'd publically have some big fat eunich chop off some hands at halftime, these guys might think twice about tossing bogus flags.

02-06-2006, 11:15 AM	#9
Arkansas Bronco Ring of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 5,237 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ryan Clady	Actualy they should make bieng an official a full time job. In the off season studying taking test maybey go to traing camps and ref the scrims. There has got to be a way to improve it and in my oppinion the only way to do that is to keep em on the clock year around.

02-06-2006, 11:26 AM	#11
The Big E Ring of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hermosa Beach Posts: 1,910	Full time officials would make the most sense, especially considering this is a multi-billion dollar business. I don't know what else could really be done. The horrible officiating in the Super Bowl was a fitting end to the season.

02-06-2006, 12:00 PM	#15
Rock Chalk Cheeky Bastards Laus Deo Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Backside of the Internet Posts: 29,940 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	The problem isn't the refs. There are too many god damn rules. If you are a p***Y, you shouldnt play in the NFL and there should not be rules to protect pussies.

02-06-2006, 12:47 PM	#20
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,008 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	The officiating has been bad., but to say it's because there are too many rules is ridiculous. The officiating has been bad because they've been calling things that have been around forever differently. Pass interference is called almost randomly and it varies from game to game and even play to play. Holding is another one that can be called at any time to screw a team whenever the official feels like it. It used to be that if the the ball hits a receivers hands and a safety was anywhere near him, he could lay him out. Now you practically have to ask permission to tackle a receiver. The new rules like horse-collar and whatnot aren't the problem. We never see that one called anymore. It's how they're calling the old ones.

02-06-2006, 01:54 PM	#21
bendog Marginally Continent David Bowens, he'd be an upgrade Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Folsom Prison Posts: 19,935 Adopt-a-Bronco: David Bowens	A scarcity of black refs is the problem, imo. In fact I only recall seeing one black ref in all the years I watched the nfl (-:

02-06-2006, 03:52 PM	#22
Den Smith 49 Mr. Rookie to you Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 205	Full time officials have to happen. It's a joke that an industry that makes millions of dollars, only keeps their officials around for the season. What is this high school football?

02-06-2006, 05:59 PM	#23
orinjkrush ... Prospects for the future... Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DistrictOfCorruption Posts: 4,913 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ben Garland	officiating in the nfl is a JOKE. and it needs attention. make 'em all booth officials for all i care, but call the frickin game right.