Was the fix on? - The Orange Mane

watermock · 02-05-2006, 08:57 PM

was a fix on?

Bronx33 · 02-05-2006, 08:58 PM

Mock how many threads do you need to state the same thing?

Jason in LA · 02-05-2006, 09:30 PM

Me and my buddies were saying that all night long. It was more of a joke, but man, it sure did seem like the fix was on.

The ref runs in with one arm up, saying the guy was down, then puts up another arm calling a TD.

There were a few other calls that I can't remember now, but some where horrilble calls. How about the illegal block on Hasselback when he was making the tackle?

I'm not about to say the refs gave the Steelers the game. Passing the ball way too much lost it more, but the refs sure were on the Steelers side.

Needa Pass Rush · 02-05-2006, 09:34 PM

Someone wrote Jeremy Stevens a big check.

ZachKC · 02-05-2006, 09:36 PM

This man says yes.

Blueflame · 02-05-2006, 10:07 PM

It sure looked like the Steelers were getting more breaks from the officials than the Seahawks were. I don't know that one could definitively state that the "fix" was in, but the calls sure weren't 50/50.

For the record, I was totally ambivalent about the SB... while I looked forward to the game and avidly watched it, I really did not (and still do not) care one iota which team won.

Jason in LA · 02-05-2006, 10:09 PM

Hasselback got called for a low block when he was making a tackle. I thought that was kid of funny.

Taco John · 02-05-2006, 10:11 PM

I don't think the fix was on... But I could see how a Seahawks fan could sure feel like it. That was the worst officiating I can remember ever seeing in a Superbowl.

enjolras · 02-05-2006, 10:18 PM

I was on the fence until Hasselback got called for tackling someone.

TheChamp247 · 02-05-2006, 10:25 PM

Yea I do agree with all the skewed calles by the refs but also what about the promo portion of it. For one the "I'm going to Disney World" commercial was almost all Steelers. Also the pregame pictures of the players holding the Lombardi Trophy were all Steelers. It's not like the game was a blow out the whole time and the Seahawks didn't have a chance, they were still in it. Kinda made me think.

loborugger · 02-05-2006, 10:51 PM

I dont think it was. There is soooo much money made on betting on the NFL that if the word ever got out that there was fixing.... I dont know.

Besides, if the NFL was gonna fix it, wouldnt they wanna fix it for Seattle? There is already a legion of Steelers fans. I would think they would want to create a little bandwagon for the Hawks fans to jump.

If there was any fixing, I would think that it would have been for New Orleans this season. They had a horrible season, I am not sure any fixing coulda saved that mess.

Orange_Beard · 02-05-2006, 10:58 PM

Every game changing pay the Hawks made was called back on a questionale call.

Jason in LA · 02-05-2006, 11:00 PM

It was funny when the side judge ran in with one arm up, signalling 4th down, then all of a sudden he puts the other arm up for a TD. A buddy of mine said that he felt the buzzer in his pocket so he put the other arm up.

wabbit · 02-05-2006, 11:01 PM

The ref crews must be going through a transition phase...new hires & the like.

There seemed to be a louder howl over officiating this year than I've heard in a while...me amongst them.

Yes, this game was officiated poorly. No, I can't believe there was a fix...they just stunk, which in itself is amazing when you consider the SB crew is supposed to be the best of the bunch as graded throughout the season.

That 'low block' call on Hasselbeck has to rank among the very worst in play-off history...if not the worst.

What's even more bizarre is that the head referee allowed the call. I mean, that's just basic football...yikes.

Northman · 02-06-2006, 03:25 AM

There was no fix, just bad officiating like it has been all season long. wah wah wah.

meangene · 02-06-2006, 04:21 AM

The officiating has been horendous throughout the playoffs. Yesterday was no exception. The "push off" or the phantom holding call that turned the game were jokes. Penalties for tackling, the after thought TD call. They looked like keystone cops out there. It was an embarassment!

watermock · 02-06-2006, 04:40 AM

Well, you couldn't really tell WTF was happening on the call on Hassleback, but evidently you can't tackle low on a return...some obscure rule I have never heard of...and have no clue why it exists...but one announcer said Hassleback never even touched him...maybe he got the number wrong...

This crew is supposed to be the best of the best and they were worse than a history teacher officiating a junior high game.

I don't want to believe the fix was on, it's a pretty risky proposition, but money talks and I'd like to know if there was a huge bet on Pitt in Vegas. It just smelled fishy. Every time Seattle would make a play, they would call it back. Two TD's called back? The low tackle call? The Vinnie Testeverde TD what clearly showed Bettis 4 inches short when they had replay? Everyone on the board said it was short.

Maybe Ruin was in on the fix too...WTF was he doing booting into the endzone from the 50 every time? He doesn't see the sideline?

The stats on this game would make you think that Seattle won, and that's without the nullified plays.

It was almost like Seattle was fixing it too.

How many times did they have the ball at midfield only to watch Ruin boot it into the endzone for a 20 yard net.

And what was with the clock management by Seattle late? And the kicker was 0-3 or something? Holmgren is supposed to be an accomplished coach and he looked like a Middle School History teacher out there as well.

Just an ugly ugly game.

Beantown Bronco · 02-06-2006, 06:34 AM

The Roth "TD"....

An offensive pushoff that is never called....if it was, Michael Irvin would have less catches for his career than Lelie has right now.

The Hasselback penalty for a "tackle below the knees".

The fantom holding call that essentially wiped away another Seahawks TD (a pass play that would've set up first and goal at the one or two if I remember right).

No off-sides calls on the Steelers when Porter lined up off-sides nearly every time he was lined up as a DE. The most obvious time was right after a touchback. The Seahawks had it first and ten at the twenty and Porter had his hand on the twenty yard line. It couldn't have been more obvious than that. There was absolutely no doubt about where the line of scrimmage was. He also got an early start off the line on a sack of Hasselback on a key third down which pushed them out of field goal range.

And I had money on the Steelers, so it's not I'm just some bitter Seahawk fan with an agenda.

This was at least the third game this season that had me convinced the whole thing is fixed. I'm starting to get worried because it's really starting to affect my whole enjoyment of the game.

Garcia Bronco · 02-06-2006, 06:37 AM

Bar none this is the worst officiating I've ever seen in a season....and every year that passes I think this is fixed just a bit more.

BroncoBen · 02-06-2006, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TheChamp247

Yea I do agree with all the skewed calles by the refs but also what about the promo portion of it. For one the "I'm going to Disney World" commercial was almost all Steelers. Also the pregame pictures of the players holding the Lombardi Trophy were all Steelers. It's not like the game was a blow out the whole time and the Seahawks didn't have a chance, they were still in it. Kinda made me think.

The Steelers after beating the Colts became the new NFL darlings. This was suppose to be the year for the Colts. Makes you wonder how much influence the NFL has with the Refs.

BombsOverBaghdad · 02-06-2006, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

I don't think the fix was on... But I could see how a Seahawks fan could sure feel like it. That was the worst officiating I can remember ever seeing in a Superbowl.

Since the Broncos were not playing - and the fact that I live here in the Seattle area - I was pulling for the Seahawks.

The penalties called by the refs were a joke! How many times would you see Offensive Interference called? How could anyone view BR's (the Steelers) first touchdown and not admit that he did not break the goal-line plane with either the ball or body, before his knee touched? And, how can you call an illegal block when you are making a tackle?

Terribly officiated!!! The league should look into this.............

TheDave · 02-06-2006, 09:00 AM

Was the fix on... Stop that. The game wasn't fixed, nor was their a gunman on the grassy knoll, and yes we went to the moon.

The fact is, there was alot of bad officiating this year and the NFL needs to make these refs full time employees. I can't begin to understand why a billion-dollar business like the NFL won't commit to having full-time officials like every other major sport in the country. Anyone who watched the Superbowl... much less the regular season... can see that the league has a serious problem... But "Fixing" the games is not one of them.

Mile High Shack · 02-06-2006, 09:11 AM

yeah, I voted fix, but that is b/c, that is just what I do.......I kill flies with sledgehammers all the time

the #1 offseason priority for the NFL has to be the officiating, it was bad this year

Disco Man · 02-06-2006, 09:47 AM

The call on Hasselback after the threw the pic was just a joke..there were 3 or 4 calls that could have gone both ways. The tuchdown that they gave Ben, the pass int. in the end zone, the holding call that would have had Seattle on the 1 yard line. I think it was a BAD game for the ref's...the NFL needs to look at it's crews...this year had plenty of those "bad call" games. Just think if the Steelers would have lost the Indy game after the int. was turned around.

broncosteven · 02-06-2006, 09:59 AM

Maybe not a Fix per-se but the calls sure seemed one sided. A balanced called game would have been more interesting than the Turd we got serverd up yesterday.

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02-05-2006, 08:57 PM	#1
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	Was the fix on? was a fix on?

02-05-2006, 08:58 PM	#2
Bronx33 lets go partner Rumpson Rocks Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lakewood,Colo Posts: 41,221 Adopt-a-Bronco: Woodyard	Mock how many threads do you need to state the same thing?

02-05-2006, 09:30 PM	#3
Jason in LA Gimmie that rep fool! Speaking of Butts & Boob Mojo Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: LA Posts: 12,252	Me and my buddies were saying that all night long. It was more of a joke, but man, it sure did seem like the fix was on. The ref runs in with one arm up, saying the guy was down, then puts up another arm calling a TD. There were a few other calls that I can't remember now, but some where horrilble calls. How about the illegal block on Hasselback when he was making the tackle? I'm not about to say the refs gave the Steelers the game. Passing the ball way too much lost it more, but the refs sure were on the Steelers side.

02-05-2006, 09:34 PM	#4
Needa Pass Rush Never say Always Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,211	Someone wrote Jeremy Stevens a big check.

02-05-2006, 09:36 PM	#5
ZachKC For The Glory Of The City Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Kansas City Posts: 9,665 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eddie Kennison	This man says yes.

02-05-2006, 10:07 PM	#6
Blueflame Miss Congeniality Welcome to Peyton's Place Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: in my cups... lol Posts: 33,037 Adopt-a-Bronco: Randy Gradishar	It sure looked like the Steelers were getting more breaks from the officials than the Seahawks were. I don't know that one could definitively state that the "fix" was in, but the calls sure weren't 50/50. For the record, I was totally ambivalent about the SB... while I looked forward to the game and avidly watched it, I really did not (and still do not) care one iota which team won.

02-05-2006, 10:09 PM	#7
Jason in LA Gimmie that rep fool! Speaking of Butts & Boob Mojo Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: LA Posts: 12,252	Hasselback got called for a low block when he was making a tackle. I thought that was kid of funny.

02-05-2006, 10:11 PM	#8
Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,697 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	I don't think the fix was on... But I could see how a Seahawks fan could sure feel like it. That was the worst officiating I can remember ever seeing in a Superbowl.

02-05-2006, 10:18 PM	#9
enjolras Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,940	I was on the fence until Hasselback got called for tackling someone.

02-05-2006, 10:25 PM	#10
TheChamp247 Pro Bowler Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 532	Yea I do agree with all the skewed calles by the refs but also what about the promo portion of it. For one the "I'm going to Disney World" commercial was almost all Steelers. Also the pregame pictures of the players holding the Lombardi Trophy were all Steelers. It's not like the game was a blow out the whole time and the Seahawks didn't have a chance, they were still in it. Kinda made me think.

02-05-2006, 10:51 PM	#11
loborugger lost in the ether Did we finally get a FB??? Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The 'cuse Posts: 5,783 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Hillis	I dont think it was. There is soooo much money made on betting on the NFL that if the word ever got out that there was fixing.... I dont know. Besides, if the NFL was gonna fix it, wouldnt they wanna fix it for Seattle? There is already a legion of Steelers fans. I would think they would want to create a little bandwagon for the Hawks fans to jump. If there was any fixing, I would think that it would have been for New Orleans this season. They had a horrible season, I am not sure any fixing coulda saved that mess.

02-05-2006, 10:58 PM	#12
Orange_Beard Over Jay Cutler Todd Snider Rules! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Leucadia, CA Posts: 7,836 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tony Scheffler	Every game changing pay the Hawks made was called back on a questionale call.

02-05-2006, 11:00 PM	#13
Jason in LA Gimmie that rep fool! Speaking of Butts & Boob Mojo Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: LA Posts: 12,252	It was funny when the side judge ran in with one arm up, signalling 4th down, then all of a sudden he puts the other arm up for a TD. A buddy of mine said that he felt the buzzer in his pocket so he put the other arm up.

02-05-2006, 11:01 PM	#14
wabbit Ring of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Aurora Posts: 5,449	The ref crews must be going through a transition phase...new hires & the like. There seemed to be a louder howl over officiating this year than I've heard in a while...me amongst them. Yes, this game was officiated poorly. No, I can't believe there was a fix...they just stunk, which in itself is amazing when you consider the SB crew is supposed to be the best of the bunch as graded throughout the season. That 'low block' call on Hasselbeck has to rank among the very worst in play-off history...if not the worst. What's even more bizarre is that the head referee allowed the call. I mean, that's just basic football...yikes.

02-06-2006, 03:25 AM	#15
Northman The Enigma Prognosis Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Maryland Posts: 17,925 Adopt-a-Bronco: Bryci	There was no fix, just bad officiating like it has been all season long. wah wah wah.

02-06-2006, 04:21 AM	#16
meangene Ring of Famer Offseason Mode Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 2,075	The officiating has been horendous throughout the playoffs. Yesterday was no exception. The "push off" or the phantom holding call that turned the game were jokes. Penalties for tackling, the after thought TD call. They looked like keystone cops out there. It was an embarassment!

02-06-2006, 04:40 AM	#17
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	Well, you couldn't really tell WTF was happening on the call on Hassleback, but evidently you can't tackle low on a return...some obscure rule I have never heard of...and have no clue why it exists...but one announcer said Hassleback never even touched him...maybe he got the number wrong... This crew is supposed to be the best of the best and they were worse than a history teacher officiating a junior high game. I don't want to believe the fix was on, it's a pretty risky proposition, but money talks and I'd like to know if there was a huge bet on Pitt in Vegas. It just smelled fishy. Every time Seattle would make a play, they would call it back. Two TD's called back? The low tackle call? The Vinnie Testeverde TD what clearly showed Bettis 4 inches short when they had replay? Everyone on the board said it was short. Maybe Ruin was in on the fix too...WTF was he doing booting into the endzone from the 50 every time? He doesn't see the sideline? The stats on this game would make you think that Seattle won, and that's without the nullified plays. It was almost like Seattle was fixing it too. How many times did they have the ball at midfield only to watch Ruin boot it into the endzone for a 20 yard net. And what was with the clock management by Seattle late? And the kicker was 0-3 or something? Holmgren is supposed to be an accomplished coach and he looked like a Middle School History teacher out there as well. Just an ugly ugly game.

02-06-2006, 06:34 AM	#18
Beantown Bronco Athletic Supporter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mass Posts: 19,040 Adopt-a-Bronco: Matt Prater	The Roth "TD".... An offensive pushoff that is never called....if it was, Michael Irvin would have less catches for his career than Lelie has right now. The Hasselback penalty for a "tackle below the knees". The fantom holding call that essentially wiped away another Seahawks TD (a pass play that would've set up first and goal at the one or two if I remember right). No off-sides calls on the Steelers when Porter lined up off-sides nearly every time he was lined up as a DE. The most obvious time was right after a touchback. The Seahawks had it first and ten at the twenty and Porter had his hand on the twenty yard line. It couldn't have been more obvious than that. There was absolutely no doubt about where the line of scrimmage was. He also got an early start off the line on a sack of Hasselback on a key third down which pushed them out of field goal range. And I had money on the Steelers, so it's not I'm just some bitter Seahawk fan with an agenda. This was at least the third game this season that had me convinced the whole thing is fixed. I'm starting to get worried because it's really starting to affect my whole enjoyment of the game.

02-06-2006, 06:37 AM	#19
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,991 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	Bar none this is the worst officiating I've ever seen in a season....and every year that passes I think this is fixed just a bit more.

02-06-2006, 09:00 AM	#22
TheDave Sauced... Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 15,120	Was the fix on... Stop that. The game wasn't fixed, nor was their a gunman on the grassy knoll, and yes we went to the moon. The fact is, there was alot of bad officiating this year and the NFL needs to make these refs full time employees. I can't begin to understand why a billion-dollar business like the NFL won't commit to having full-time officials like every other major sport in the country. Anyone who watched the Superbowl... much less the regular season... can see that the league has a serious problem... But "Fixing" the games is not one of them.

02-06-2006, 09:11 AM	#23
Mile High Shack Ring of Famer Cock-a-doodle-do Join Date: May 2001 Location: Somewhere Posts: 17,010	yeah, I voted fix, but that is b/c, that is just what I do.......I kill flies with sledgehammers all the time the #1 offseason priority for the NFL has to be the officiating, it was bad this year

02-06-2006, 09:47 AM	#24
Disco Man Style n Profile Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Denver, Co. Posts: 1,711	The call on Hasselback after the threw the pic was just a joke..there were 3 or 4 calls that could have gone both ways. The tuchdown that they gave Ben, the pass int. in the end zone, the holding call that would have had Seattle on the 1 yard line. I think it was a BAD game for the ref's...the NFL needs to look at it's crews...this year had plenty of those "bad call" games. Just think if the Steelers would have lost the Indy game after the int. was turned around.

02-06-2006, 09:59 AM	#25
broncosteven The Kranz Dictum MWA: Flight Director Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tranquility Base Posts: 29,016 Adopt-a-Bronco: MONEYBALL #38	Maybe not a Fix per-se but the calls sure seemed one sided. A balanced called game would have been more interesting than the Turd we got serverd up yesterday.