Police Apologize, Drop Charge Vs. Sheehan - The Orange Mane

Bronco_Beerslug · 02-01-2006, 05:29 PM

But of course, not in time for her and the congressman's wife to attend the State of Union Address.

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Police Apologize, Drop Charge Vs. Sheehan
By LAURIE KELLMAN, Associated Press Writer 17 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Capitol Police dropped a charge of unlawful conduct against anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan on Wednesday and apologized for ejecting her and a congressman's wife from
President Bush's State of the Union address for wearing T-shirts with war messages.

"The officers made a good faith, but mistaken effort to enforce an old unwritten interpretation of the prohibitions about demonstrating in the Capitol," Capitol Police Chief Terrance Gainer said in a statement late Wednesday.

"The policy and procedures were too vague," he added. "The failure to adequately prepare the officers is mine."

The extraordinary statement came a day after police removed Sheehan and Beverly Young, wife of Rep. C.W. "Bill" Young, R-Fla., from the visitors gallery Tuesday night. Sheehan was taken away in handcuffs before Bush's arrival at the Capitol and charged with a misdemeanor, while Young left the gallery and therefore was not arrested, Gainer said.

"Neither guest should have been confronted about the expressive T-shirts," Gainer's statement said.

Gainer added that he was asking the U.S. attorney's office to drop the charge against Sheehan. The statement also said he apologized to the Youngs and "share the department's plans for avoiding this in the future."

"A similar message has been left with Mrs. Sheehan," Gainer said.

For his part, Bill Young said he was not necessarily satisfied.

"My wife was humiliated," he told reporters. He suggested that "sensitivity training" may be in order for Capitol Police.

A foreign-born American citizen who was the guest of Rep. Alcee Hastings (news, bio, voting record), D-Fla., also was taken by police from the gallery just above the House floor, Hastings said Wednesday.

The congressman met with Gainer and said he also requested a meeting with House Speaker
Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., about the incident.

"I'd like to find out more information," Hastings said in an interview, identifying the man only as being from Broward County in Florida. "He is a constituent of mine. I invited him proudly."

Sheehan's T-shirt alluded to the number of soldiers killed in
Iraq: "2245 Dead. How many more?" Capitol Police charged her with a misdemeanor for violating the District of Columbia's code against unlawful or disruptive conduct on any part of the Capitol grounds, a law enforcement official said. She was released from custody and flew home Wednesday to Los Angeles.

Young's shirt had just the opposite message: "Support the Troops — Defending Our Freedom."

The two women appeared to have offended tradition if not the law, according to several law enforcement and congressional officials. By custom, the annual address is to be a dignified affair in which the president reports on the state of the nation. Guests in the gallery who wear shirts deemed political in nature have, in past years, been asked to change or cover them up.

Rules dealing mainly with what people can bring and telling them to refrain from reading, writing, smoking, eating, drinking, applauding or taking photographs are outlined on the back of gallery passes given to tourists every day.

However, State of the Union guests don't receive any guidelines, Hanley said. "You would assume that if you were coming to an event like the State of the Union address you would be dressed in appropriate attire," she said.

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Associated Press writer Liz Sidoti contributed to this report.
http://tinyurl.com/7easx

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 02-01-2006, 05:35 PM

Hmmmm....I wonder if they would still be backpedalling if the wife of a republican congressman hadn't been with Sheehan?

Bronco_Beerslug · 02-01-2006, 06:33 PM

You know that free speech isn't really free these days don't you?

Anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan was arrested for wearing a t-shirt that said "2245 Dead. How many more?"

Hogan11 · 02-01-2006, 07:37 PM

I'm surprised that Sheehan was invited at all.

Rigs11 · 02-01-2006, 08:23 PM

How convenient that after she was made to leave and was arrested that they realized they had made a mistake.And that lady with the "support our troops" shirt wasn't arrested?

Garcia Bronco · 02-01-2006, 08:26 PM

LMAO...I'm glad they tossed her out.

"However, State of the Union guests don't receive any guidelines, Hanley said. "You would assume that if you were coming to an event like the State of the Union address you would be dressed in appropriate attire," she said."

And this part hits the nail on the head.

Rigs11 · 02-01-2006, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

LMAO...I'm glad they tossed her out.

"However, State of the Union guests don't receive any guidelines, Hanley said. "You would assume that if you were coming to an event like the State of the Union address you would be dressed in appropriate attire," she said."

And this part hits the nail on the head.

That's the nazi spirit.

By the way the same person who seated her and approved of her attire grabbed her and took her to a squad car when she unzipped her coat.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 02-01-2006, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hogan11

I'm surprised that Sheehan was invited at all.

I'm not.

She has become the same sort of hated figure to the wingnuts as Michael Moore.

Rove knows he can use that to rally the faithful.

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 02-01-2006, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rigs11

That's the nazi spirit.

Exactly.

People like GB get upset when you use the word "nazi," but that's exactly the mindset they are representing.

I wonder what GB would say if the shoe was on the other foot and one of his cultural heroes was thrown out of the capitol for wearing a t-shirt that said "screw affirmative action" or some other right-wing slogan?

L.A. BRONCOS FAN · 02-01-2006, 11:58 PM

clarker · 02-02-2006, 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

Hmmmm....I wonder if they would still be backpedalling if the wife of a republican congressman hadn't been with Sheehan?

Just like if Sheehan wasn't there at all you would give a damn if they threw out a Republican congressman's wife.

RaiderH8r · 02-02-2006, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rigs11

That's the nazi spirit.

By the way the same person who seated her and approved of her attire grabbed her and took her to a squad car when she unzipped her coat.

House rules state that you can not protest from the gallery. It's in order to keep decorum. If you could sit up in the gallery and scream, and b**** and moan all day long Congress wouldn't get squat done. Senators and Representatives are told, repeatedly, to take their conversations off of the floor. This is ridiculous. I'm glad they bounced Sheehan, I'm glad they bounced Rep. Young's wife. Wear something appropriate for the occasion people. How truly lame.

Bronco_Beerslug · 02-02-2006, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaiderH8r

House rules state that you can not protest from the gallery. It's in order to keep decorum. If you could sit up in the gallery and scream, and b**** and moan all day long Congress wouldn't get squat done. Senators and Representatives are told, repeatedly, to take their conversations off of the floor. This is ridiculous. I'm glad they bounced Sheehan, I'm glad they bounced Rep. Young's wife. Wear something appropriate for the occasion people. How truly lame.

Another Bush lemming who approves of police action even though no law was broken. No wonder this country is so ****ed up!
They didn't "bounce" her they ARRESTED her.

I don't agree with half the stuff she is doing but Bush's repression of dissent is more dangerous than anything she could do.
She was arrested for wearing a shirt with the number of dead in Bush's war on it. She didn't say a word. Think about that.
There are NO laws that prohibit the wearing of a T-shirt to that forum.

And the congressman's wife on CNN today admitted to being so mad she blurted out obsenities to the officers. Sheehan never did any such thing. The congressman's wife was never arrested but Sheehan was.

ak1971 · 02-02-2006, 08:00 AM

Cindy Sheehan in a T Shirt should be a crime no matter what the circumstances..lol

El Guapo · 02-02-2006, 08:09 AM

you liberals cry foul over EVERYTHING.

I assume you all caught south park last night?? It was PERFECT! matt and trey hit both sides on the head, it was hilarious.

Rascal · 02-02-2006, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaiderH8r

House rules state that you can not protest from the gallery. It's in order to keep decorum. If you could sit up in the gallery and scream, and b**** and moan all day long Congress wouldn't get squat done. Senators and Representatives are told, repeatedly, to take their conversations off of the floor. This is ridiculous. I'm glad they bounced Sheehan, I'm glad they bounced Rep. Young's wife. Wear something appropriate for the occasion people. How truly lame.

Bingo. May not have been a law but it was the house rules and as such she must adbide by them while she was there. Since she wasn't obeying them she got tossed...Good. Maybe she shouldn't have been arrested, but she most certainly should have been kicked out.

Bronco_Beerslug · 02-02-2006, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maverick_7

you liberals cry foul over EVERYTHING.

I assume you all caught south park last night?? It was PERFECT! matt and trey hit both sides on the head, it was hilarious.

And the Bush lemmings defend anything he does including trampling over the "it's just a goddamned piece of paper".

Sad that so many in this country don't realize what they're giving up by supporting people who are stripping them of the very thing that made this country so great.

Bronco_Beerslug · 02-02-2006, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rascal

Bingo. May not have been a law but it was the house rules and as such she must adbide by them while she was there. Since she wasn't obeying them she got tossed...Good. Maybe she shouldn't have been arrested, but she most certainly should have been kicked out.

Would you post the "rules" so we can all see them?

Rascal · 02-02-2006, 08:16 AM

http://www.rules.house.gov/

Bronco_Beerslug · 02-02-2006, 08:22 AM

This is the Bush world that Rascal and other Bush supporters are condoning.

Repress and hide all dissent even if that includes arresting them or herding them into temporary holding areas until Bush passes through or finishes speaking.

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WASHINGTON – Responding to the number of examples of American voters being turned away, or removed from George W. Bush’s visits to their cities and states, Democratic National Committee Chairman Terry McAuliffe hosted a national conference call with Oregon teachers who were kicked out of an Oct. 14 Medford Bush rally for wearing T-shirts saying, "Protect Our Civil Liberties."

Three Medford-area schoolteachers Janet Voorhees, Candice Julian, and Tania Tong were ejected from a Bush rally in Central Point, Oregon for wearing these shirts, which Bush event staff called.
http://tinyurl.com/9y7pt

Bronco_Beerslug · 02-02-2006, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rascal

http://www.rules.house.gov/

Like I said, post the rules that state no T-shirt may be worn at the State of the Union Address.

Rascal · 02-02-2006, 08:24 AM

You are an idiot Slug. Where did I say "repress and hide all dessent"?

I said she broke the house rules as such she should have been kicked out, but I also said that she shouldn't have been arrested. Learn to read and comprehend.

Rascal · 02-02-2006, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

Like I said, post the rules that state no T-shirt may be worn at the State of Union Address.

I posted the rules like you asked. Look it up yourself.

Bronco_Beerslug · 02-02-2006, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rascal

You are an idiot Slug. Where did I say "repress and hide all dessent"?

I said she broke the house rules as such she should have been kicked out, but I also said that she shouldn't have been arrested. Learn to read and comprehend.

For the third time post the rule that says no T-shirt may be worn at The State of the Union Address or is it possible you don't have a clue if there is such a thing?

Rascal · 02-02-2006, 08:32 AM

For the third time read the rules yourself.

Hell, you can't claim she was targeted especially as they kicked out the republican senators wife who had a T-shirt saying "suport the troops".

02-01-2006, 05:29 PM	#1
Bronco_Beerslug Angling in the Deep Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Texas Riviera, Southern Mountains Posts: 24,281	Police Apologize, Drop Charge Vs. Sheehan But of course, not in time for her and the congressman's wife to attend the State of Union Address. ------------------------------------------------------- Police Apologize, Drop Charge Vs. Sheehan By LAURIE KELLMAN, Associated Press Writer 17 minutes ago WASHINGTON - Capitol Police dropped a charge of unlawful conduct against anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan on Wednesday and apologized for ejecting her and a congressman's wife from President Bush's State of the Union address for wearing T-shirts with war messages. "The officers made a good faith, but mistaken effort to enforce an old unwritten interpretation of the prohibitions about demonstrating in the Capitol," Capitol Police Chief Terrance Gainer said in a statement late Wednesday. "The policy and procedures were too vague," he added. "The failure to adequately prepare the officers is mine." The extraordinary statement came a day after police removed Sheehan and Beverly Young, wife of Rep. C.W. "Bill" Young, R-Fla., from the visitors gallery Tuesday night. Sheehan was taken away in handcuffs before Bush's arrival at the Capitol and charged with a misdemeanor, while Young left the gallery and therefore was not arrested, Gainer said. "Neither guest should have been confronted about the expressive T-shirts," Gainer's statement said. Gainer added that he was asking the U.S. attorney's office to drop the charge against Sheehan. The statement also said he apologized to the Youngs and "share the department's plans for avoiding this in the future." "A similar message has been left with Mrs. Sheehan," Gainer said. For his part, Bill Young said he was not necessarily satisfied. "My wife was humiliated," he told reporters. He suggested that "sensitivity training" may be in order for Capitol Police. A foreign-born American citizen who was the guest of Rep. Alcee Hastings (news, bio, voting record), D-Fla., also was taken by police from the gallery just above the House floor, Hastings said Wednesday. The congressman met with Gainer and said he also requested a meeting with House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., about the incident. "I'd like to find out more information," Hastings said in an interview, identifying the man only as being from Broward County in Florida. "He is a constituent of mine. I invited him proudly." Sheehan's T-shirt alluded to the number of soldiers killed in Iraq: "2245 Dead. How many more?" Capitol Police charged her with a misdemeanor for violating the District of Columbia's code against unlawful or disruptive conduct on any part of the Capitol grounds, a law enforcement official said. She was released from custody and flew home Wednesday to Los Angeles. Young's shirt had just the opposite message: "Support the Troops — Defending Our Freedom." The two women appeared to have offended tradition if not the law, according to several law enforcement and congressional officials. By custom, the annual address is to be a dignified affair in which the president reports on the state of the nation. Guests in the gallery who wear shirts deemed political in nature have, in past years, been asked to change or cover them up. Rules dealing mainly with what people can bring and telling them to refrain from reading, writing, smoking, eating, drinking, applauding or taking photographs are outlined on the back of gallery passes given to tourists every day. However, State of the Union guests don't receive any guidelines, Hanley said. "You would assume that if you were coming to an event like the State of the Union address you would be dressed in appropriate attire," she said. ___ Associated Press writer Liz Sidoti contributed to this report. http://tinyurl.com/7easx

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02-01-2006, 05:35 PM	#2
L.A. BRONCOS FAN Mo' holla fo' yo' dolla! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a bunker in an undisclosed location Posts: 52,694	Hmmmm....I wonder if they would still be backpedalling if the wife of a republican congressman hadn't been with Sheehan?

02-01-2006, 06:33 PM	#3
Bronco_Beerslug Angling in the Deep Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Texas Riviera, Southern Mountains Posts: 24,281	You know that free speech isn't really free these days don't you? Anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan was arrested for wearing a t-shirt that said "2245 Dead. How many more?"

02-01-2006, 07:37 PM	#4
Hogan11 Rock-N-Roll Historian Let's take these SOB's out!!!!!! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: W.NY.B.C. Posts: 21,300 Adopt-a-Bronco: Floyd Little	I'm surprised that Sheehan was invited at all.

02-01-2006, 08:23 PM	#5
Rigs11 Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 7,820	How convenient that after she was made to leave and was arrested that they realized they had made a mistake.And that lady with the "support our troops" shirt wasn't arrested?

02-01-2006, 08:26 PM	#6
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,991 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	LMAO...I'm glad they tossed her out. "However, State of the Union guests don't receive any guidelines, Hanley said. "You would assume that if you were coming to an event like the State of the Union address you would be dressed in appropriate attire," she said." And this part hits the nail on the head.

02-01-2006, 11:58 PM	#10
L.A. BRONCOS FAN Mo' holla fo' yo' dolla! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a bunker in an undisclosed location Posts: 52,694

02-02-2006, 08:00 AM	#14
ak1971 uhhhh Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 5,536	Cindy Sheehan in a T Shirt should be a crime no matter what the circumstances..lol

02-02-2006, 08:09 AM	#15
El Guapo aka mav_7. who? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: VA (heart is in TX) Posts: 3,444	you liberals cry foul over EVERYTHING. I assume you all caught south park last night?? It was PERFECT! matt and trey hit both sides on the head, it was hilarious.

02-02-2006, 08:16 AM	#19
Rascal RIP Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 16,581 Adopt-a-Bronco: Turf	http://www.rules.house.gov/

02-02-2006, 08:22 AM	#20
Bronco_Beerslug Angling in the Deep Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Texas Riviera, Southern Mountains Posts: 24,281	This is the Bush world that Rascal and other Bush supporters are condoning. Repress and hide all dissent even if that includes arresting them or herding them into temporary holding areas until Bush passes through or finishes speaking. -------------------------------------------------- WASHINGTON – Responding to the number of examples of American voters being turned away, or removed from George W. Bush’s visits to their cities and states, Democratic National Committee Chairman Terry McAuliffe hosted a national conference call with Oregon teachers who were kicked out of an Oct. 14 Medford Bush rally for wearing T-shirts saying, "Protect Our Civil Liberties." Three Medford-area schoolteachers Janet Voorhees, Candice Julian, and Tania Tong were ejected from a Bush rally in Central Point, Oregon for wearing these shirts, which Bush event staff called. http://tinyurl.com/9y7pt

02-02-2006, 08:24 AM	#22
Rascal RIP Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 16,581 Adopt-a-Bronco: Turf	You are an idiot Slug. Where did I say "repress and hide all dessent"? I said she broke the house rules as such she should have been kicked out, but I also said that she shouldn't have been arrested. Learn to read and comprehend.

02-02-2006, 08:32 AM	#25
Rascal RIP Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 16,581 Adopt-a-Bronco: Turf	For the third time read the rules yourself. Hell, you can't claim she was targeted especially as they kicked out the republican senators wife who had a T-shirt saying "suport the troops".