Redskins enter T.O sweepstakes - The Orange Mane

PortisFanForever · 02-01-2006, 02:56 PM

http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/9201384

Looks like they are offering a first day pick

Smiling Assassin27 · 02-01-2006, 02:57 PM

Eagles would be fools to trade to a division rival.

Bronco_Beerslug · 02-01-2006, 02:59 PM

No way do the Eagles trade TO to them.

Old Dude · 02-01-2006, 03:13 PM

This was scooped a couple hours ago, and the consensus is, as Beerslug says, that Philly would not be likely to trade TO to a divisional opponent so long as they had any other reasonable offer.

I imagine they'd sooner take a 5 from Denver than a 3 from DC. (Especially since they don't play the Broncos again until 2009 or so.)

2KBack · 02-01-2006, 03:15 PM

I don't see why the Bears aren't getting in on this. If there is one team in the whole country that needs a shot in the arm on offense, it's them.

Old Dude · 02-01-2006, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 2KBack

I don't see why the Bears aren't getting in on this. If there is one team in the whole country that needs a shot in the arm on offense, it's them.

An offense would spoil their image.

Ray Finkle · 02-01-2006, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

No way do the Eagles trade TO to them.

if the nugget was good enough they would....

TheDave · 02-01-2006, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ray Finkle

if the nugget was good enough they would....

I seriously doubt that Philidelphia would allow Owens, moss, and portis to all be on their divisional rivals offense... Damn that would be a scarry trio

freak6 · 02-01-2006, 03:46 PM

Maybe they do it with earnest, and plant the BAD SEED!!!

bombquixote · 02-01-2006, 03:48 PM

i can't deny that i'm intrigued by the prospect of grabbing owens. i think a better plan, though, is to get ricky and either moulds or jj, and shore up the reciever position in the draft. ricky strikes me as less of a personality risk in that even if he sinks, he won't take the whole ship down with him like t.o. did in philly. ricky would just fail to show up one day, but t.o. would probably flame jake and shanny in the press for two weeks before they cut his ass.

in fact, i almost want the chiefs to take t.o. and pay too much for him.

Merlin · 02-01-2006, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by freak15

Maybe they do it with earnest, and plant the BAD SEED!!!

Yeah, but if that seed don't turn bad, they will be paying for it with big time interest for the next 3 yrs. It would be stupidity of ultimate proportions to take such a risk. TO in Washington or Dallas would likely spell doom for Philly (although I am sure the teams in the other divisions in the NFC would love it, nothing like a war of attrition to kill off the strong).

freak6 · 02-01-2006, 03:57 PM

I think we gotta put our faith in Shannahan.

He is way to smart to give TO the $$$ he wants without a very restrictive contract. If we sign TO, it will be under our terms. I wouldn't be suprised to see the Redskins' Snyder give TO a big contract after trading a pick for him. Snyder overpays overrated vets with consistency, and I hope he gets burned yet again.

TO will take the $ from the team where he has the most freedom, and that isn't here.

freak6 · 02-01-2006, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlin

Yeah, but if that seed don't turn bad, they will be paying for it with big time interest for the next 3 yrs. It would be stupidity of ultimate proportions to take such a risk. TO in Washington or Dallas would likely spell doom for Philly (although I am sure the teams in the other divisions in the NFC would love it, nothing like a war of attrition to kill off the strong).

You don't think the Eagles Defense would be up for going up against TO, I think that is even MORE reason to trade him to a division rival. TO coming back to Philly 1nce a year, he'd be lucky to make it onto the field after the barrage of batteries. I don't see any reason why the Eagles would fear trading TO to a division rival, I think they'd be licking thier chops ala Broncos vs Kennison.

Hulamau · 02-01-2006, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bombquixote

i can't deny that i'm intrigued by the prospect of grabbing owens. i think a better plan, though, is to get ricky and either moulds or jj, and shore up the reciever position in the draft. ricky strikes me as less of a personality risk in that even if he sinks, he won't take the whole ship down with him like t.o. did in philly. ricky would just fail to show up one day, but t.o. would probably flame jake and shanny in the press for two weeks before they cut his ass.

in fact, i almost want the chiefs to take t.o. and pay too much for him.

I suspect we'll either grab TO or Ricky with Ricky seeming like a better bet.

Williams didnt even have a full offseason with the Fins last year and still hung 178 yrds at the end of the season, at only 212 pounds, when he finally got a chance to start. He'll be back up to around 223 and still lean and mean with a full offseason with Tuten.

Grabbing Williams and another good FA WR and keep our high draft picks could do the trick without risking a total blow up with TO. If Williams is eager to come for the whole offseason and make a true committment to the team and to revamping his career and turning over a new leaf, there is no way he's gonna quit on this team. He didnt get along with Wannstadt at all which was a big part of the problem that inspired him to flake out in a puff of smoke, but he would be monster in our system! He could easily hang 2K and 25 TDs next year baring any injuries.

Ricky could be the main dude with Tater and/or Dayne giving him a breather and our rushing TDs would go WAY up as would our 3rd down conversion rate, both running and throwing.

Make Ash the #1 WR which would double his catches and yards overnight and bring in Moulds or JJ for #2 or #3 depending on how Rod does in training camp and draft another good WR to groom and we could do just fine without Jeckel and Hyde from Philly.

KC would be fools to bring in TO with a new coach with Edwards temperment and a new staff. They wouldnt have the tenure and authority to control the guy. Herm Edwards is almost as volatile as TO is and I could se the mtraqdign blows on the sidelines before long. Shanny is problably the only caoch out hter right now that could handle this guy and there is no guarantee of that!

Washington would also be dumb to bring him in AS Sanatan Moss woudlnt like it a bit having his #1 limelight stolen nor would Portis enjoy being second fidle with the media there. The Skins are going to have their hands plenty full just trying it integrate Suanders, Bugle and Gibbs all calling various shots. Count on Snyder to try to buy his way into another hole though.

The one crazy thing is that if we somehow got both TO and Ricky it would, in a way, be a buffer for both those guys as neither one would be the sole center of all the media speculation which might in a funny way work out best for both of them.

However, Ricky is one hell of a lot more likely to thrive here and really enjoy playing on our team than TO. He'll get a LOT less beat up with our zone blocking than he did in Miami and will have a LOT more chances for 60 yrd TD runs in the clear.

If TO is here he'll have to swallow hard on our run first offense and he was complaining about not getting enough balls in Philly, for God sakes, where they thrwo 50 times a game with him the #1 and NEVER run the ball!!!

Everyone dreaming about how great TO would be here ... dreaming of a perfect scenario in an idlealized world ... need to factor that reality into the equation.

CBF1 · 02-01-2006, 04:34 PM

And look what Kennison does against the Broncos every time he plays us. If Philly looks at it like that, no way they trade him to the skins.

Rulon Velvet Jones · 02-01-2006, 04:37 PM

If we're worried about TO going off on Jake if times are rough in Denver, imagine him in WASH (who's the QB there?) or KC (Old Man Green).

manchambo · 02-01-2006, 04:38 PM

Is there any team other than Washington that would offer a first day pick for a player who willundoubtedly be cut in two or three months? Honest to God, I read the title of this thread and though "uh oh, we're screwed because those idiots will drive the asking price beyond all reason."

Chimporilla · 02-01-2006, 04:42 PM

I haven't been paying too much attention to the scuttlebutt surrounding TO and his possible employment by the Denver Broncos but I'll tell you this; as a Raider fan I don't like it one bit that you guys might get him. I think the guy is over his shenannigans and is ready to get back on the field and play football.

This means that he's going to play hell against any defense he faces, which means he'd play hell against us. He'd be a great pick-up for you guys and he'd probably come at an affordable price, at least for the first season.

And as much as I dislike Shannahan, he's a guy who would actually know how to use TO and incorporate him into the offense for the greatest advantage. If all things stay the same, Denver would be f'ing hard to stop next season.

On that note, I hope you signe TO for a trillion dollars and he ends up in Amsterdam on hash bender two days before opening day.

Cheers!

ibleedburgundy · 02-01-2006, 04:51 PM

Our local media just reported that Vinnie Cerrato said the Redskins are not interested in her.

Bronco_Beerslug · 02-01-2006, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ibleedburgundy

Our local media just reported that Vinnie Cerrato said the Redskins are not interested in her.

You wouldn't have any chance of getting the best WR in the league anyway so it's kinda a moot point.

baja · 02-01-2006, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by freak15

I think we gotta put our faith in Shannahan.

He is way to smart to give TO the $$$ he wants without a very restrictive contract. If we sign TO, it will be under our terms. I wouldn't be suprised to see the Redskins' Snyder give TO a big contract after trading a pick for him. Snyder overpays overrated vets with consistency, and I hope he gets burned yet again.

TO will take the $ from the team where he has the most freedom, and that isn't here.

I think this sums up the situation quite well.

Bronco_Beerslug · 02-01-2006, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by freak15

You don't think the Eagles Defense would be up for going up against TO, I think that is even MORE reason to trade him to a division rival. TO coming back to Philly 1nce a year, he'd be lucky to make it onto the field after the barrage of batteries. I don't see any reason why the Eagles would fear trading TO to a division rival, I think they'd be licking thier chops ala Broncos vs Kennison.

You don't understand football then. No way do the Eagles give the Redskins or Cowboys the best WR in the league.

Merlin · 02-01-2006, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

You don't understand football then. No way do the Eagles give the Redskins or Cowboys the best WR in the league.

Not to mention that his example of Kennison was a poor one. Just look at the stats.

Clockwork Orange · 02-01-2006, 05:03 PM

They can have him.

Garcia Bronco · 02-01-2006, 05:04 PM

Ricky Williams is 10 times the flake as TO. Ricky Williams quit on his team...TO's QB quit on him.

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02-01-2006, 02:56 PM	#1
PortisFanForever Solid Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 133	Redskins enter T.O sweepstakes http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/9201384 Looks like they are offering a first day pick

02-01-2006, 02:57 PM	#2
Smiling Assassin27 STOP! KIPER TIME! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In a van down by the river Posts: 10,957 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Eagles would be fools to trade to a division rival.

02-01-2006, 02:59 PM	#3
Bronco_Beerslug Angling in the Deep Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Texas Riviera, Southern Mountains Posts: 24,281	No way do the Eagles trade TO to them.

02-01-2006, 03:13 PM	#4
Old Dude Host Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: As if I'd tell you crazies! Posts: 14,146	This was scooped a couple hours ago, and the consensus is, as Beerslug says, that Philly would not be likely to trade TO to a divisional opponent so long as they had any other reasonable offer. I imagine they'd sooner take a 5 from Denver than a 3 from DC. (Especially since they don't play the Broncos again until 2009 or so.)

02-01-2006, 03:15 PM	#5
2KBack Rumblin' Bumblin' Cake is delicious Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wash DC Posts: 7,274	I don't see why the Bears aren't getting in on this. If there is one team in the whole country that needs a shot in the arm on offense, it's them.

02-01-2006, 03:46 PM	#9
freak6 3,631 - WAKE UP!!!! Impeach President Cheney and Puppet Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,651 Adopt-a-Bronco: MJK	Maybe they do it with earnest, and plant the BAD SEED!!!

02-01-2006, 03:48 PM	#10
bombquixote Ring of Famer 11-5 in 2009 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: The Perineum Posts: 1,098	i can't deny that i'm intrigued by the prospect of grabbing owens. i think a better plan, though, is to get ricky and either moulds or jj, and shore up the reciever position in the draft. ricky strikes me as less of a personality risk in that even if he sinks, he won't take the whole ship down with him like t.o. did in philly. ricky would just fail to show up one day, but t.o. would probably flame jake and shanny in the press for two weeks before they cut his ass. in fact, i almost want the chiefs to take t.o. and pay too much for him.

02-01-2006, 03:57 PM	#12
freak6 3,631 - WAKE UP!!!! Impeach President Cheney and Puppet Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,651 Adopt-a-Bronco: MJK	I think we gotta put our faith in Shannahan. He is way to smart to give TO the $$$ he wants without a very restrictive contract. If we sign TO, it will be under our terms. I wouldn't be suprised to see the Redskins' Snyder give TO a big contract after trading a pick for him. Snyder overpays overrated vets with consistency, and I hope he gets burned yet again. TO will take the $ from the team where he has the most freedom, and that isn't here.

02-01-2006, 04:34 PM	#15
CBF1 Ring of Famer No avatar is the new avatar Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 14,907 Adopt-a-Bronco: Jack Del rio	And look what Kennison does against the Broncos every time he plays us. If Philly looks at it like that, no way they trade him to the skins.

02-01-2006, 04:37 PM	#16
Rulon Velvet Jones You're not really here. Tight Butthole Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 6,597 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rent-A-DC	If we're worried about TO going off on Jake if times are rough in Denver, imagine him in WASH (who's the QB there?) or KC (Old Man Green).

02-01-2006, 04:38 PM	#17
manchambo Ring of Famer Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,213	Is there any team other than Washington that would offer a first day pick for a player who willundoubtedly be cut in two or three months? Honest to God, I read the title of this thread and though "uh oh, we're screwed because those idiots will drive the asking price beyond all reason."

02-01-2006, 04:42 PM	#18
Chimporilla Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 80	I haven't been paying too much attention to the scuttlebutt surrounding TO and his possible employment by the Denver Broncos but I'll tell you this; as a Raider fan I don't like it one bit that you guys might get him. I think the guy is over his shenannigans and is ready to get back on the field and play football. This means that he's going to play hell against any defense he faces, which means he'd play hell against us. He'd be a great pick-up for you guys and he'd probably come at an affordable price, at least for the first season. And as much as I dislike Shannahan, he's a guy who would actually know how to use TO and incorporate him into the offense for the greatest advantage. If all things stay the same, Denver would be f'ing hard to stop next season. On that note, I hope you signe TO for a trillion dollars and he ends up in Amsterdam on hash bender two days before opening day. Cheers!

02-01-2006, 04:51 PM	#19
ibleedburgundy Just Drafted Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 45	Our local media just reported that Vinnie Cerrato said the Redskins are not interested in her.

02-01-2006, 05:03 PM	#24
Clockwork Orange Persona Non Grata I seen him! Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,438	They can have him.

02-01-2006, 05:04 PM	#25
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,987 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	Ricky Williams is 10 times the flake as TO. Ricky Williams quit on his team...TO's QB quit on him.